<plaes>
yeah, it's already solved with device trees :)
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<Amit_T>
montjoie: Hello, I can see now the second transmit packet on the wire but it doesn't look good .Instead of ICMP echo request , its sending some UDP packet , http://paste.ubuntu.com/16186378/ .
<arnd>
mripard: I just found two build errors in drivers/gpu/drm/sun4i/. I'm about to submit patches for them, but I wonder what the CONFIG_ARM dependency is needed for. Do we need more than CONFIG_OF and CONFIG_COMMON_CLK?
<arnd>
it failed to build if either of them is disabled, but there are trivial workaround for those two issues
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<pitillo>
hello, I'm just trying to collect some information related to the pine64, to deploy a custom rootfs on a uSD card and I'm a bit confused. Can I just follow the usual two partitions method, first for booting (kernel) and the second one for rootfs? I'm checking z2d github info who points to longsleep work. So, should be enought to get longsleep minimal image (to setup the sdcard with both partitions) an
<pitillo>
d deploy the rootfs in the second partition?
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<lvrp16>
wens plaes, i mean with additional support utilities like h3disp etc, not just the kernel but rather the entire infrastructure from uboot, kernel, drivers, userspace utilities
<lvrp16>
so i can run a debootstrap, do some apt-gets and have a working image
<lvrp16>
whether ubuntu or debian or any other derivative
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<lvrp16>
so like one metapackage would be "board-support-orange-pi-one" and it would reference a series of packages
<Amit_t_>
apritzel:montjoie: Got the ping working now from u-boot prompt :) :)
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<jernej>
lvrp16: Isn't Armbian something like you described?
<lvrp16>
armbian is the whole thing, i mean just the debian packages
<lvrp16>
so it could be ubuntu or debian or whatever other flavor
<lvrp16>
that you install board support on
<jernej>
Ok, then I don't know like that.
<jernej>
^anything
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<willmore>
Amit_t_, , congratulations!
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<apritzel>
Amit_T: great! can you ping back from the host?
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<lvrp16>
Jernej what is ur github link?
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<Rambler45>
Hmm, as per my understanding on the OPi PC, well, sorry to bother you all - but the green light is supposed to flash so you know when the device has crashed? Because when it does it just constantly lights green
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<ssvb>
Rambler45: the two LEDs in Orange Pi PC are configurable and can be programmed in any way you like
<Rambler45>
Ah, because it just changed as I installed some sunxi updates.
<Rambler45>
Probably that made the changes, since I did not have them like that before.
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<KotCzarny>
:)
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<Rambler45>
It's just a bit strange that somebody would have the LED constantly flashing like a heartbeat ;)
<Rambler45>
Its kind of cool, I did it with my router but only on boot.
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<KotCzarny>
lvrp16: armbian is quite plain debian (using debian repos), modifications come into additional packages available through armbian repo
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45:heartbeat helps you to know whether your board is still alive, but almost anyone just switches to mmc
<ssvb>
Rambler45: you can try to experiment with /sys/class/leds and set different trigger types, heartbeat is just one of the triggers
<Rambler45>
KotCzarny, well that was exactly my thought
<Rambler45>
Personally I like to keep my console cables out of the way, mostly because I have my items in cases.
<Rambler45>
still useful from time to time
<Rambler45>
I would disable blinking because SSH can report wether it's dead or not.
<KotCzarny>
well
<KotCzarny>
not exaclty
<KotCzarny>
my opipc is not dead, but rtl8188 went into deep sleep
<Rambler45>
I know it could be unresponsive
<KotCzarny>
so i cant ssh over wifi, yet the box is perfectly alive ;)
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<KotCzarny>
i can connect ethernet cable or just usb kb and reload it
<Rambler45>
That was one of the things I wanted to order, I have one of those crappy adapters 802.11n with red around it with no kernel support whatsoever.
<KotCzarny>
was going to add it to cron but wanted to try some compilation options first
<Rambler45>
A wi-fi adapter that works universally from 2.* or 3.* and up
<KotCzarny>
basically there are 3 options
<Rambler45>
Mine went into 4.* though
<KotCzarny>
realtek 8188/8192, ralink 5370 and mediatek 7601
<KotCzarny>
if your board is mainlined, all work
<Rambler45>
KotCzarny, as I use RJ45 no issue.
<KotCzarny>
otherwise there are diff. issues
<Rambler45>
There is about five different tasks running on it that can be checked and needs to be there 24/7
<Rambler45>
so if it stops surely it will be noticed ;)
<Rambler45>
My voltmeter arrived today, and says the USB output I use is at 5.12V
<Rambler45>
thats just a KCX meter I got cheap, so wether it's callibrated or not cannot know.
<KotCzarny>
measure dc in in the board then compare with internal sensor value?
<Rambler45>
You mean like put a standard voltmeter on the board DC-in? I guess that's a way
<KotCzarny>
btw. which board you own?
<Rambler45>
I do not think these boards have any internal values for them.
<KotCzarny>
bpi-m1 had axp209 which showed usb-in voltage
<Rambler45>
Just playing with my OPi PC, the cheapest I found with proper power.
<Rambler45>
DC-IN that is
<KotCzarny>
opipc is not the cheapest ;)
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<Rambler45>
Well
<KotCzarny>
but yeah, it lacks a bit
<Rambler45>
The one with most USB ports
<KotCzarny>
still, there are board that lack more
<KotCzarny>
remember that 'most' != 'best'
<Rambler45>
Heard about a OPi e2
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<KotCzarny>
opipc has 3(+1) usb ports without crippling internal usb hub
<longsleep>
Anyone looked at the A64 BSP 2.0 already?
<Rambler45>
YUP
<longsleep>
.. 6.68GB why oh why
<Rambler45>
ssvb, thanks and so you say but I've not really found good information about triggers. So far I used a timer and did default-on
<KotCzarny>
ssvb: i think dram freqs testing page should be splitted from opipc page
<Rambler45>
Not exactly sure where the settings it uses when booting are stored, you could override them in rc.local, but it should be a better way.
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<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: see the kernel sources/docs?
<ssvb>
KotCzarny: yes, you are right, some of this information needs to be moved elsewhere
<KotCzarny>
ssvb: i think it should be generic h3 page
<KotCzarny>
with tables for applicable boards
<ssvb>
I'm not sure about this, the tables are very much board specific
<KotCzarny>
yes, do they use separate limamemtester builds?
<ssvb>
different boards need different script.bin
<ssvb>
and different SoC types need different kernels
<Rambler45>
The DRAM could be different right
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<Rambler45>
It is not a given that another boards with H3 uses the same chip, and putting it up on there would be more messy in my opinion.
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<KotCzarny>
its not that i meant
<KotCzarny>
i mean: h3_dram_speed_test page with some generic intro that is shared
<Rambler45>
ah, ok.
<KotCzarny>
then each board could have its own parapgraph
<ssvb>
KotCzarny: it is not H3 specific, we also support A10/A13/A20 with exactly the same test program
<KotCzarny>
then even you can have subpoint 2/1/1/ recommended settings etc
<lvrp16>
KotCzarny: i was under the assumption that armbian took the debian source files and compiled it for each architecture, i didn't know they have a ppa or debian package server for specific boards support
<lvrp16>
^compiled it for each board*
<KotCzarny>
lvrp16: nope, wanna see my repos?
<lvrp16>
yes
<ssvb>
KotCzarny: the main problem with a separate big page with all results is that very few people can find it
<Rambler45>
Could always mention it
<ssvb>
KotCzarny: but when the table is presented at https://linux-sunxi.org/Orange_Pi_PC then people can notice it easily and add their own results
<ssvb>
KotCzarny: on the other hand, the DVFS information clearly belongs to the H3 page
<KotCzarny>
ssvb: each board will have a link to that point in the page?
<lvrp16>
so armbian is using debian ports?
<KotCzarny>
yes
<KotCzarny>
not ports, repos
<KotCzarny>
or describe what do you mean by ports
<lvrp16>
sorry right
<lvrp16>
ports/repos, i sort of use them interchangably/incorrectly
<Rambler45>
KotCzarny, remember discussing an amp? I remember you saying it did not need solder. Then the GPIO pins can deliver 5V, an audio cable into the jack should do?
<lvrp16>
what about the userspace utilities like h3disp?
<lvrp16>
uboot
<KotCzarny>
also, armbian adds some scripts specific to the sunxi, which might not be packages
<lvrp16>
and fex files?
<KotCzarny>
see ^
<Rambler45>
I have been providing current over serial cables before so very well might be
<lvrp16>
what do you think about a project that adds a package server with board support?
<lvrp16>
so you can debootstrap an image and then apt-get board support to generate an image?
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: my bpim1 audio box grabs 5v from the euler connector and audio from headphone jack
<lvrp16>
i feel that would save a ton of time making different images based on the same uboot/kernel for a specific board
<KotCzarny>
lvrp16: that package could be very big, unless its a metapackage
<Rambler45>
huh, so from DC-IN?
<lvrp16>
it would be different meta packages for different boards
<KotCzarny>
and atm i think armbian does it right
<Rambler45>
No wait
<Rambler45>
You mean non DC?
<Rambler45>
can't be, just confusing myself
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: on bpim1 i dont remember if it goes directly or not
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<Rambler45>
surely there must be a place to get power
<Rambler45>
worst case scenario try to get it out of USB
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: i think its pins 2 and 4
<longsleep>
ssvb: hey yesterday i packaged libvdpau-sunxi for Ubuntu - now i am looking to patch xf86-video-fbturbo so it sets the vdpau driver - do you think thats feasible without ump and mali_drm kernel module?
<KotCzarny>
refer to your board pinouts
<Rambler45>
I was thinking they provide a lower current, but that might be wrong.
<KotCzarny>
lvrp16: to get a working linux image you need uboot, kernel and compatible os binaries (+some board specific packages/scripts/inits), os binaries can be shared, rest is hard to have in one universal image
<Rambler45>
Ah, no, they are indeed there.
<Rambler45>
2 and 5 VCC-5V
<Rambler45>
4*
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: 1-1.5A is usually enough for those microamps, and as i said, if you need more power you are better off with external power/amp
<Rambler45>
Well, depends on the model you choose. As far as I udnerstand there are many you can pick and some are more beefy than others (heat+sink)
<KotCzarny>
for normal/semi loud listening it wont grab more than 0.5A
<KotCzarny>
most of the time its 0.03-0.1A
<Rambler45>
Some bundleed with $4 for 10 pieces, others $2 bigger. No idea how each of them are.
<Rambler45>
Depends on the resistance, most my audio equipment are 30 ohm. Some poor phones can struggle driving it.
<KotCzarny>
um, they drive 4-8ohm speakers
<KotCzarny>
not headphones
<lvrp16>
KotCzarny: i don't mean a universal image, i mean a universal package server with all of the board support, eg bsp-orange-pi-pc, bsp-orange-pi-one, etc
<lvrp16>
metapackages that would install the necessary utilities
<KotCzarny>
lvrp16: you still need working image that can use them
<KotCzarny>
and right now armbian does it, doesnt it?
<KotCzarny>
you can simply make a metapackage for all the sunxi specific tools it provides
<KotCzarny>
pity igor is not (yet) convinced to rebase on devuan
<lvrp16>
true, armbian is like 90% there
<KotCzarny>
unless igor is undercover redhat employee :P
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<lvrp16>
what does devuan use for init?
<Rambler45>
redhat + debian ?
<Rambler45>
hmm
<longsleep>
everyone uses systemd now
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<Rambler45>
Not FreeBSD
* NiteHawk
smacks longsleep
<Rambler45>
My friend strongly disapproves of systemd
<longsleep>
hehe
<Rambler45>
And a lot of people got angry because old ways
<longsleep>
every major current linux distribution boots with systemd
<Rambler45>
Ended up crawling into FreeBSD, glad I don't
<Rambler45>
They sound crazy, something about BSD being broken
<Rambler45>
GPL*
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: nope, there are plenty of systemd systems
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: yes - thats what i am saying?
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: you've said everyone and every major current linux
<KotCzarny>
just wait a bit and see
<Rambler45>
Well I had those speakers, too bad I threw the 7 of them.
<KotCzarny>
also, slackware and gentoo are guaranteed to be systemd free
<Rambler45>
now it's time to regret it.
<longsleep>
not getting it, debian, fedora, suse, ubuntu - these are what i call major
<longsleep>
all systemd
<Rambler45>
centos
<longsleep>
counts as fedora
<Rambler45>
:()
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: sure, suse is major?
<KotCzarny>
and server people hate systemd for instability
<KotCzarny>
but if you talk about desktopish and clueless..
<KotCzarny>
then yes. they are major for them
<longsleep>
sure, we will see how it goes now that 16.04 LTS is released
<Rambler45>
I just hate systemd in general because all my knowledge broke, everything from scripts to setting up my wired connection... Oh guess what systemd networkd!!!
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: its not about relearning things, its about it being broken from design
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: well, that discussion is over - sytemd is it - embrace it and you will be fine
<longsleep>
i do not like it either, but i know how it works in detail - helps a lot and suddenly things make sense again
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: nope. linux is about choice and freedom of that choice
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: and systemd suddenly makes you not being able to use the apps you want
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: really? why is that?
<NiteHawk>
gentoo and eudev to the rescue :P
<KotCzarny>
it goes away from the 'do one thing but do it perfect' philosophy
<Rambler45>
systemctl is nice, I just moved my scripts to /etc/init.d/ and kept using them by CLI commands.
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: yes - still does not help to fight it - fight is over
<Rambler45>
:)
<Rambler45>
Innovative
<longsleep>
i would have preferred upstart over systemd but at the end i do not care - i am expert in both now and can do the same with either no matter what - stopped caring
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: hrm, cant find the article
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<Rambler45>
I just think it's too big
<NiteHawk>
KotCzarny: what article - criticism of systemd violating "the unix way"?
<Rambler45>
could it have been simpler
<Rambler45>
well, I just have to go read all the manual pages and shut up you are right longsleep ;)
<KotCzarny>
shows nicely that systemd assumes things and doesnt allow/work in unexpected envs
<lvrp16>
"i would have preferred upstart over systemd but at the end i do not care" ;)
<Rambler45>
If every major distribution adopts it you just got to accept it.
<KotCzarny>
kind of allwinner's 'here's the bsp, it boots, so in the end we dont care'
<Rambler45>
Here is CedarX, it works, so why care? :)
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: not going to happen, people are choosing systemd-free distros and move on
<KotCzarny>
slackware, gentoo, devuan
<Rambler45>
Like my friends going to FreeBSD
<longsleep>
freebsd is actually nice
<Rambler45>
But those above are very special types of OS I will not be using
<KotCzarny>
yes, even changing to other ecosystems
<Rambler45>
I have used Arch Linux so I'm not far off to be able to use gentoo with that in mind.
<longsleep>
you know that you can change systemd yes? make changes improvements whatever
<Rambler45>
Stability wise the above one not a good choice
<Rambler45>
terrible choice
<longsleep>
i think systemd solves more problems than it causes
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: sure, but its 'small steps' strategy, you can change things (yet), but you might be forced to use it because something stops working ?
<longsleep>
but hey, we will know in 3 years or so
<Rambler45>
Intel finally gave up the phone/tablet market, they could not compete with ARM. And I thought those Windows 10 tablets were looking great.
<Rambler45>
except with Linux
<longsleep>
noew that Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is there, wait for the first point release then it will be rolled out to how may millions of servers worldwide
<longsleep>
still - i suggest to everyone to embrace it if you want to know how a modern linux distro works you need it
<KotCzarny>
longsleep, please read at least the last link
<longsleep>
i know all of it
<Rambler45>
every big OS uses it might as well
<Rambler45>
if you stick to the past like a conservative, well, you know what happens.
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<KotCzarny>
jumping on the 'cool because its new and everyone's doing it' wagon isnt exactly smart neither
<Rambler45>
True
<longsleep>
well even Debian uses it now - cannot be so bad can it?
<Rambler45>
Here IT people get replaced or do not get jobs if their knowledge isn't constant upto date.
<Rambler45>
I was more surprise when CentOS started using it
<Rambler45>
As it's RHEL-based, and they fancy stability more than others.
<Rambler45>
That's pretty much their selling point.
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: it goes into paranoid world, snowden said that rh is essentially nsa, and debian is also ran by them
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: probably true
<longsleep>
KotCzarny: with debian you can actually look into the code as everything is binary reproducable, not with rh
<KotCzarny>
not every code is instantly recognizable as a sploit, remember heartbleed?
<KotCzarny>
code was seen by everyone, but somehowa it was YEARS before it was 'discovered'
<longsleep>
sure sure - i am ewell aware
<Rambler45>
What is wrong with the NSA in fact being a big client of RHEL? Rembmer that they are called National Security Agency for a reason, they also were behind SELinux ye?
<longsleep>
sure, thats why you use apparmor
<Rambler45>
Try China, government got SSH access inside the servers of power companies.
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: they are basically spies
<Rambler45>
People I get cut off with can take months before they are behind their firewall again.
<KotCzarny>
nsa was able to install backdoors/steal data from the networkless computers, how cool is that?
<Rambler45>
Super cool
<Rambler45>
For your safety
<KotCzarny>
nope
<KotCzarny>
for THEIR safety
<Rambler45>
You should start using a tinfoil hat because they use special frequencies for mind-control too
<Rambler45>
the worst part is the hat actually amplifies the mind-control so you go even more crazy
<KotCzarny>
nah, i dont care that much because im just a microfish
<KotCzarny>
but they are not waiting idle
<KotCzarny>
they are actively doing cyberwar, and other super powers do it too
<Rambler45>
With that in mind, my router runs kernel 2.*. I am sure a lot of our central networking system including my fibre switch, phone, a lot of which here reliex on GNU/Linux.
<Rambler45>
If there is a backdoor they can make it straight inside everything I have just by compromising my router
<KotCzarny>
if you were a target to consider, or a tool (your router/network) to use
<Rambler45>
Thing is, nothing to hide works for us all KotCzarny
<Rambler45>
Think of it like the bad guys getting caught while me and you do not have to worry.
<longsleep>
they record everything, do something now - in 10 years they can descrypt it and get your ass
<Rambler45>
I believe I got classes about compromises that had to be made in order to live in democracy, such as therse and that was before NSA
<Rambler45>
leaks
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: irc is unencrypted
<longsleep>
sure
<Rambler45>
IRC is the most insecure for of communication too
<Rambler45>
Well, can get more insecure, but yeah you get me.
<longsleep>
irc is public, it does not matter if its unencrypted
<KotCzarny>
yup
<Rambler45>
I have access to private encrypted IRC networks too
<longsleep>
while i have not checked, but i am pretty sure i am connected encrypted
<KotCzarny>
longsleep: but other parties might not have been
<longsleep>
sure thats why i said its public
<KotCzarny>
which means there is no point to point security
<Rambler45>
Well, if we go paranoid how about OTR and jabber.ccc.de
<longsleep>
even if it were all end to end encrypted, it can still be public
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: there are ways to send encrypted messages i bet
<longsleep>
sure, but do you use a cipher which you are sure it cannot be decrypted in 10 years from now?
<longsleep>
no you are not because there are no such ciphers as of now
<Rambler45>
I like to have chats over Mumble and it is by default encrypted in OCB-AES128 voice channel and AES256-SHA control channel.
<Rambler45>
Well, if they want to store it an decrypt it later be my guest, nothing of value.
<Rambler45>
Not even dropbear supports ed25519 (my router) yet, so please.
<KotCzarny>
compile something new?
<Rambler45>
I do like whats written on wikipedia about NSA DC. Purpose[edit]
<Rambler45>
The data center is alleged to be able to process "all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Internet searches, as well as all types of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital 'pocket litter'.
<KotCzarny>
use armbian on your allwinner box as a home router?
<longsleep>
Rambler45: well, host in Iceland or if you are not from there, the Netherlands is also a good location
<KotCzarny>
and as i said, as long you are little fish, you dont have to care
<Rambler45>
I am using Tomato by Shibby on ASUS, good old classic. Even if it runs kernel 2.* with no access to it except from LAN, feel fairly secure - its firewalled pretty good, but ofc spoof and if they want they can go in.
<Rambler45>
I told you before, nothing to hide nothing to see :)
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<Rambler45>
I have another router, a very shady one.
<KotCzarny>
bbl
<Rambler45>
Got it as a present long ago, might be interesting too. It has two bootlaoders and is made by the Chinese company Xiaomi. So definetly full backdoored.
<Rambler45>
Thought about replacing my ASUS with it, first: I used a telnet exploit to install OpenWRT over their updated firmware (surprise surprise)
<KotCzarny>
'we put router in your router so we can see what you see?'
<Rambler45>
this just amazed me
<Rambler45>
The total lack of security and no option to disable WPS
<KotCzarny>
its just laziness often
<KotCzarny>
but it stops being funny when you find out being part of the global botnet ;)
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<Rambler45>
Well, told you I installed OpenWRT over it.
<Rambler45>
Can replace the bootloader if I want to go that deep.
<Rambler45>
In fact, US may at any point go steal the codebase of Intel etc if they did want to and make the perfect exploits on CPU level.
<longsleep>
long reality
<longsleep>
do not trust Intel security whatever extension
<Rambler45>
ARM?
<Rambler45>
bitlocker hahaha
<Rambler45>
I was so sad when truecrypt died
<Rambler45>
rather fishy death too many people were confused at their claim that it is not secure and go use bitlocker
<longsleep>
do not trust any closed source software or hardware
<Rambler45>
did somebody pay a deep price for them to "disappear"?
<longsleep>
arm64 BSP 2.0 tree is a mess as always ..
<longsleep>
a64 BSP i mean
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<Rambler45>
had they done a proper job from the start, they and their 400 engineers.
<longsleep>
There are quite some changes in the BSP 2.0 A64 Kernel tree, seems like we got a sunxi_g2d driver now
<tkaiser>
nove: Thx, I forgot that longsleep put the stuff online in a better way. Still hoping for quad core pin compatible A20 successor Olimex talked about last July
<nove>
supposedly this will be the one
<tkaiser>
nove: Great, I throw all my H3 devices in the bin :)
<KotCzarny>
tkaiser, not yet, it might suck in the new ways ;)
<tkaiser>
KotCzarny: Even if SATA is as limited as with A20 (sequential write speed limitation) it's way better for most of my use cases than H3. _If_ it's pin and feature compatible to A20
<KotCzarny>
and if it would be smaller process .. mm
<tkaiser>
I bought by accident 160 heatsinks on Aliexpress. I simply stack them if A20E gets too hot.
<jelle>
lol
<jelle>
tkaiser: you mean the orange pi one right :-)
<KotCzarny>
smalleer process and 2ghz, mmm
<tkaiser>
jelle: What's the problem with OPi One?
<jelle>
tkaiser: wasn't there heating issues with it?
<NiteHawk>
2ghz with an a20? is it just me or is that asking for thermal issues?
<tkaiser>
jelle: I think I did something wrong with mine since I realized that the GPIO header is rotated by 180¡. I tried very hard to fry the board several times injecting DC-IN at the wrong pins.
<jelle>
O_o
<tkaiser>
*didn't realize
<nove>
dram_clk = <672>; means it has a new memory controller
<KotCzarny>
i tried to fry my opipc once by connecting power in reverse
<KotCzarny>
it survived
<Rambler45>
I bought 50 pieces 14x14x6mm ones myself
<Rambler45>
I think they are pretty okay to use single, I put one on each chip with nothing to keep them together with. Was thinking pads or compound but works without it
<Rambler45>
OPi idling at 44 degrees celcius right now
<KotCzarny>
my opi is idling at 32C
<Rambler45>
Well, neat.
<KotCzarny>
no heatsink
<Rambler45>
You probably have lower dvfs
<Rambler45>
I am using whatever was set by the folks at armbian
<Rambler45>
I might have to adjust is as I need no HDMI output etc
<Rambler45>
get rid of the IR driver and such
<Rambler45>
well, I did plan on using that so might as well.
<nove>
if it means something about how pin compatible it will be, pinctrl-sun8iw11p1.c is almost 1 to 1 match with A20
<Rambler45>
Ah, I see.
<Rambler45>
My readouts being 44 might be entirely wrong
<tkaiser>
nove: Ok, but it seems it's still just dual core and up to 1.2 GHz. And still 'real' SATA
<KotCzarny>
Rambler45: just do the outofthebox and vertical test
<Rambler45>
Then again what matters is the heat I can feel by hand, and that is not much at least lower than the RPi unless it's not disspating heat whic is highly unlikely
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<Rambler45>
IRC split, how fun
<KotCzarny>
and if you have ir thermo, you can measure soc temp
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<KotCzarny>
nite!
<Rambler45>
Ah, I always wanted one of those. Is it like a screen. Probably too expensive for me to buy just to measure temperatures with. I got a USB voltmeter but that can be used to meaasure consumption in a lot of ways.
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<Rambler45>
Might be that there exists a reliable Chinese one for an affordable price+
<Rambler45>
Not that I have had good experiences with that
<Rambler45>
LEDs being clearly fake left and right
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<Rambler45>
You have any KotCzarny?
<KotCzarny>
um, i've used plain consumer grade one that can be switched from 'body' to 'object' mode
<KotCzarny>
it's cheap, dont know how reliable it is, but so far i havent seen any big errors
<Rambler45>
Well, we have one store here that sells unoriginal ones.
<Rambler45>
For 40 dollars
<KotCzarny>
i bought it for ~15usd
<Rambler45>
See why I am not amused
<KotCzarny>
just do the nobox&vertical test and compare
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<sdwrage>
Hey all. I just got my Pine A64 Microcomputer in the mail and I got myself a decent 64 gb micro sd with adapter. I have a macbook pro with the slot for the adapter so I was able to format the micro sd. How would I go about installing Ubuntu Snappy on it for use with the Pine64 computer?
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<sdwrage>
anyone?
<apritzel>
sdwrage: I guess you should go with one of longsleep's images