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<newbie|7> hey guys i have a question
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<eagles0513875__> i found http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/FirstSteps and there is an application for windows which is used to extract the berry boot image and put it on the sd card is it possible to manually extract the image and just put it on the sd card or does the software do something special with the img and its files
<TheLinuxBug> I am not sure what your asking here?
<TheLinuxBug> berryboot is run inside android to allow setup of another operating system outside android easily. Of course you can directly setup a istribution to the card your self if you want, all that documentation is out there for many versions of linux and Android, in fact a lot of that information will be on linux-sunxi or cubieboards site... so yeah.. not sure what your wanting here
<TheLinuxBug> distribution*
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: im a bit confused as to where to start in terms of installing linux on my cubieboard2
<eagles0513875__> im kinda new to these types of systems
<TheLinuxBug> Well, the easiest way out of the box is to install berryboot as it allows install of other distributions from inside android easily, that is what berryboot is...
<TheLinuxBug> you can also download images and directly write them to the SDcard
<TheLinuxBug> for android and many linux distributions
<TheLinuxBug> thats the two places you need to start
<TheLinuxBug> the vanilla images are there and the docs on how to write them to the sdcard are the second link
<TheLinuxBug> once you get a hang of the vanilla stuff, you can look around on google and just around at other linked projects for different
<TheLinuxBug> things
<TheLinuxBug> there are a few people like Igor and Roman that produce specialized kernels to help you get the most out of the little board as well as full distributions for debian/arch/etc
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: do they need to be the cubieboard supported ones
<TheLinuxBug> it is a bit of a hobby board, so just look around you will find others out there with different projects etc
<eagles0513875__> i was eyeing fedora
<eagles0513875__> really i want this cubieboard to function like a little pc hooked up to the tv to stream and watch movies
<TheLinuxBug> just like loading linux on any computer you have to have the software and kernel that loads for your platform
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: wasnt all the sunxi stuff included in the kernel already in terms of upstreaming?
<TheLinuxBug> what makes the distributions specific to the board is the version of uboot (the kernel loader used on Arm7 devices) and the spec sheets (fex) that you have installed in them so that uboot and the kernel know where the hardware is located and what drivers to load.
<TheLinuxBug> each board has specific specs and needs a speicifc file with the correct hardware layout to be able to boot
<eagles0513875__> thing is somehow i managed to bork my android install
<eagles0513875__> i think
<TheLinuxBug> there are directions on compiling your own versions of uboot if you want to design your own setup
<eagles0513875__> ok
<TheLinuxBug> You can always download the original image and reflsh it to the NAND
<TheLinuxBug> the directions should be included in those links I provided
<TheLinuxBug> for writing to NAND you will need to get a special program to flash it to the NAND and follow directions
<TheLinuxBug> installing on NAND is a different process all together from installing on SDcard
<TheLinuxBug> as you have to connect a USB cable to the board and write the data directly to the onboard NAND using a flashing program like PhoenixCard
<eagles0513875__> let me hook it up and take out microsd card and see what happens
<TheLinuxBug> there is a bit of a learning curve here, but once you get your self familiar you can quickly surpass it and start having fun with the board
<TheLinuxBug> just do some reading
<TheLinuxBug> I spent about 10-12 hours on weekend getting familiar with things and just traying new distributions
<TheLinuxBug> once you have done it a few times becomes second nature and a lot easier to do
<TheLinuxBug> trying*
<eagles0513875__> ya i hear ya
<TheLinuxBug> it gets to be a lot more fun when you start attempting to make stuff work your self... do note it is a hobby board to some extent so don't expect everything to be candy and rainbows
<TheLinuxBug> for example getting the drivers compiled manually for the graphics cards in linux can be a huge pain
<TheLinuxBug> getting a precompiled setup like Igors or running a kernel already compiled with the needed drivers helps
<TheLinuxBug> but still in some cases you need to do your own work to perfect thigns a bit
<TheLinuxBug> https://romanrm.net/
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: i have a beat os a laptop i was trying to get a better understanding of how the gentoo cross dev environment work
<eagles0513875__> works
<eagles0513875__> so ican then cross compile for the board
<eagles0513875__> thanks for those links :)
<TheLinuxBug> cross compiling isn't that hard
<eagles0513875__> i will be back off to have breakfast quickly
<TheLinuxBug> just takes having the kernel headers and such needed for arm installed and issuing the right commands to the compiler
<TheLinuxBug> here is one suggestion re: Ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/250696/cross-compile-for-arm
<TheLinuxBug> but I am sure it similar in most cases on all dists
<TheLinuxBug> they will either have a specialized compilier already or you can simply get the headers and pass the needed commands to gcc
<TheLinuxBug> well I am in and out but if you get stuck just ask and when I am around or when someone else is they we will try to answer :)
<TheLinuxBug> this isn't always the best place for instant gratification, but if you have some patience people do try to help here, just may not be an instant answer
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: gentoo have a special cross compilation environment
<eagles0513875__> TheLinuxBug: regarding patience its like that in most channels :) so im used to it
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<wigyori> heh, looks like there are 3 different mainline i2s implementations ;p
<wigyori> one from codekipper, one from andrea, and one from maxime
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<Turl> H8 cubietruck, interesting :)
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