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<arete74> allwinner H64 desktop.....
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<libv> and yet another overhyped kickstarter :(
<libv> but no promises of open source software this time round
<arete74> os is remix os
<JohnDoe_71Rus> they promises android. it not full opensoure
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> current A10/20 A80 is not used for 100%
<JohnDoe_71Rus> not fully supported
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<adj__> wow they mark android as secure and windows as insecure...
<adj__> last time I checked was not even possible to remove individual permissions in android
<RSpliet> they mark Remix OS as popular... their statements require a moderately-sized salt factory
<libv> RSpliet: it's kickstarter
<libv> RSpliet: kickstarter eats up whole salt-planets :p
<libv> RSpliet: the really sad thing is that few people seem to be capable of learning and still fall into these kind of traps
<adj__> at least it's very inexpensive
<RSpliet> can't be too sad about it myself really, it's not my money they're wasting
<RSpliet> sure, it could have been invested better, but... meh
<adj__> JohnDoe_71Rus, yes so a third party app is needed to use an internal api that works in 4.2-4.4 but not in 4.4.2
<mripard> adj__: and will be back in Android M
<adj__> of course a way to set permissions exists, as android set it when you install an app
<JohnDoe_71Rus> Google is the policy. away from the eyes of a standard application
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> when i install the application, I can only see the required permissions. I can not change them.
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<adj__> android was released 7 years ago, and we yet need to wait to the next version to remove permissions? that not sound as a very secure OS
<mripard> well, technically speaking, Android's sandbox is secure
<mripard> if an application didn't ask for a permission and still tries to use it, it will not be able to
<mripard> you can't configure that sandbox as a user, yet
<JohnDoe_71Rus> google afraid we will remove permissions for they probes
<mripard> but it's still there, and it works
<mripard> and if you're really concerned about what an application might do to your system, maybe the most secure thing to do is simply not to install it ?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> do you like fast food.but I do not like it hurt. do not eat fast food.
<adj__> mripard, you can make the same reasoning with the whole android
<adj__> but I would like to remove the network permission to the compass
<mripard> adj__: yes
<mripard> but that's simply not true with windows.
<mripard> so, as a system, Android *is* more secure than windows
<mripard> it's far from perfect
<mripard> but it still is
<adj__> can any application with storage permission read all my user data?
<mripard> only the one stored in the external or public storages
<mripard> so usually, it's what is exported through USB MS or MTP
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<nahomt> Hello everyone!
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<nahomt> Anyone out there able to help me with getting sunxi on a bunch of Mele M3 devices that I have in my posession
<rellla> nahomt: "Don't ask to ask. Just ask and wait!" <-topic
<rellla> and don't ask that question in the wiki. it's a wiki, not a forum.
<nahomt> Sorry about the post on the wiki
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<libv> has anyone heard of ssvb recently?
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<NiteHawk> not on IRC, last i've seen of him was on the mailing list i think
<rellla> 15.07. on linux-sunxi ml
<libv> almost a week :(
<JohnDoe_71Rus> libv: last active cubieboard forum March 26, 2015, 13:13:03
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<fullstop> hey, I got the tvin working with my device. \o/
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<plaes> o_O
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<sehraf> is anybody here using one of the 4.2 RCs on his cubietruck? LAN doesn't work anymore here. when the module gets loaded i get messages like "stmmac_platform: Unknown symbol devm_kmalloc (err 0)"
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