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<linas>
thanks <vaultec81[m]>
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<Acacia>
no, the bittorrent hash is a hash of the torrent's metadata relating to the file. the IPFS hash is a hash of the file.
<Acacia>
after that the actual proccess of getting the file is based on completely different source codes obviously, but I guess from an user perspective they're doing more or less the same thing in one case
<Acacia>
but you can be certain that you can peer with anyone who has that file on IPFS, aswell as anyone who has blocks of data that match that file , whereas if someone makes a torrent with say a different block size, then the infohash will be different and there will be 2 torrents serving the same content
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<swednec7>
well for one, how on earth do you actually find torrents by hash?
<swednec7>
i haven't seen any support for it anywhere
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
Hi peeps. New here. Just purchased my first ENS yesterday and am looking to form my first IPFS site with it.
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<nixpc>
hi
<kanej[m]1>
Hello, does anyone know if there is a way in js-ipfs on node of booting the gateway (serves files on default of localhost:9090), as it does when you run the daemon via the cli? Is there an options flag that you can pass during `IPFS.create({…})`?
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Is it possible to have ipfs://mydomain.eth ?
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<PhoenixDiscord[m>
halifox if you can add txt records to a domain then it should support DNSLink lookup on any machine which has a .eth capable dns resolver? i’m unsure how .eth works though
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<PhoenixDiscord[m>
@Agris_ Bittorrent is eventually trying to move towards SHA-256, but for now it seems to still use SHA-1, which is a different hash function to IPFS, so for now, the hashes will be different
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<PhoenixDiscord[m>
swedneck [GMT+1]:permaweb.io the way magnet links work is somewhat similar to IPFS. The magnet link contains a hash of the .torrent file, and then the torrent file handles the magnet link by searching the bittorrent DHT for peers who have that .torrent file, then it downloads the file from them, and then imports it much like it would import a local .torrent file. Generally DHT distributed torrent files wont have any
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
announce keys, so the client will then fall back to reaching out to the DHT, generally the same nodes that it got the .torrent file from in the first place (the same hash) to provide a public tracker service, announcing their own interest in that torrent, and getting a list of recently announced peers back from the DHT nodes, to connect to to start swapping pieces and fetching the torrent’s contents
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
Torrent apps keep a cache of .torrent files they generate and attempt to download/seed and serve them out to the network as needed
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Phoenix thanks! I too am trying to figure it out. I just checked and it does indeed have the ability to add records of most types, including text.
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Anyone have IPFS content I can try to link to and test this/
<halifoxDiscord[m>
* Phoenix thanks! I too am trying to figure it out. I just checked and it does indeed have the ability to add records of most types, including text.
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Anyone have IPFS content I can try to link to and test this?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
sorry, the torrent app handles the magenet link, made a mistake in my message (and i assume the bridges wont propegate a discord message edit)
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
halifox the ipfs website itself is hosted on IPFS, so maybe you could try with that?
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
Phoenix willing to give it a shot. So what should I write in the txt record?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
you can look that up by looking up the txt records on ipfs.io, which points to /ipns/website.ipfs.io, then if you lookup the txt records for _dnslink.website.ipfs.io you can see the one i quoted above
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
the _dnslink.domain format is used for subdomains (i don’t understand why that’s necessary but it super duper is necessary to make legacy http clients still work
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Erk. This is getting a little over my head, I'm just a rookie 😕
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
that’s ok!
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
just try adding a txt record with what i quoted above, set ttl to something low like 60 seconds if you have an option like that, and see what happens?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
(don’t include the quotation marks)
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
oh.. that seems like it’s not gonna work then. you need to be able to set dnslink for this to work
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
maybe you can point the domain at a different nameserver and then set it there instead? CloudFlare has free DNS hosting which is easy, fast, free, and has nice well supported APIs for updating it within programs if necessary
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
are you able to set custom nameservers with .eth domains?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
oh! neat! perfect, just choose the content type and enter the “/ipfs/QmYb3dbymigAPcaiQUgnPxbwgMKjvxVBrrxSvFHwbZLVkq” part!
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
So cool. Give me a sec, just waiting for the transaction to go through
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
hopefully once the domain update propegates, you’ll have a mirrored p2p version of the main IPFS website after you save that change! 😁
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Do you think it needs the /ipfs/ at the beginning or just the hash?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
I imagine it would need it, yes
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
That’s how the browser or whatever knows where to lookup the content
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
You might also setup a gateway, like you could point it to the cloudflare-ipfs.com gateway (note, it doesn’t support videos), and then it should even work on computers that don’t have IPFS setup
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<PhoenixDiscord[m>
it’s just a CNAME record, usually, to set that up
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
for example, you could add a cname record that points to “cloudflare-ipfs.com” and be done with it
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<kanej[m]1>
halifox (Discord): I think it needs `ipfs://Qm...` as the entry for content, or at least that is what the interface is showing for mine
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
i’m not sure if all of them support this cname thing though
<kanej[m]1>
halifox (Discord): If you have `metamask` installed then you should be able to browse to `http://example.eth` directly once you have set the content in `app.ens.domains`
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
Just another minute I'm guessing
<halifoxDiscord[m>
So I actually don't have IPFS Desktop installed yet. How do we go about accessing the domain when it's installed? Should it just be ipfs://domain ?
<halifoxDiscord[m>
The domain is finish.eth by the way
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Very interesting... Even though I put in the full /ipfs/QmYb3dbymigAPcaiQUgnPxbwgMKjvxVBrrxSvFHwbZLVkq like you set, it automatically resolved to automatically saved as ipfs://QmYb3dbymigAPcaiQUgnPxbwgMKjvxVBrrxSvFHwbZLVkq
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Can you give ipfs://finish.eth a try?
<drewdrew>
are there any devs around to help answer a question about the `js-ipfs-http-client`?
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<drewdrew>
nope ok, is there any other support channels for IPFS development?
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<voker57>
if discord and matrix is linked properly, unlikely there is some other better channel
<voker57>
unless devs are secretly communicating via AOL or something
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<bluebie>
i'm skeptical that the discord is linked properly, because I posted a bunch of stuff as PhoenixDiscord[m and it hasn't shown up in this channel for me yet
<bluebie>
messages that are 38 minutes old haven't propegated to IRC yet
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<bluebie>
hah, yeah
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<sknebel>
seems like the freenode<->matrix bridge isn't working right now, seeing the same in other channels
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<zgrDiscord[m]>
hello guys, just come up to ipfs on a research for my project. what you've done is so cool. thank you for open-sourcing it.
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
swedneck [GMT+1] that didn't help. Both ipns://finish.eth and ipfs://finish.eth open a dialogue that asks if to open IPFS Desktop (even though both Desktop and the Brave extension are both open and active).
<halifoxDiscord[m>
I click yes and then it opens up a new tab with 127.0.0.1:8080/ipfs/finish.eth with some sort of error message.
<halifoxDiscord[m>
Ideas?
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<swednec7>
Hmm, is finish.eth a valid ipns address?
<swednec7>
I.e., does it have a _dnslink.finish.eth record?
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<halifoxDiscord[m>
No there is no place in ENS to put dnslink. Instead there is a “content” field specifically for IPFS/IPNS/TOR hashes
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<swedneck[GMT1]Di>
huh, no idea then
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<zgrDiscord[m]>
hi again, i wonder in a private ipfs network is it a must for the bootstrapper nodes to be directly accessible? in terms of nat port forwarding being enabled.
<zgrDiscord[m]>
could not find direct information
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<agris_>
Acacia, What if someone makes a torrent with the same block size of the same file?
<agris_>
that was my original question
<Acacia>
it can still have a different infohash if the filename is different
<agris_>
I see
<agris_>
what about GnuTella?
<Acacia>
haven't used it, don't know
<agris_>
I'm trying to find an alternative to IPFS for public object storage because IPFS doesn't have any interesting in supporting anonymous network overlays and in my experience IPFS has been unreliable in resolving content. It also does not seem to follow the OSI model making it impossible to port to other transports than IP
<agris_>
*any interest
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<agris_>
therefor I am forced to use IPFS gateways via a socks proxy because content is completely unsolvable otherwise
<agris_>
unless you first request the content on gateway.ipfs.org and then request it with your local node,
<agris_>
because if you try to just request the content with your local node first it never resolves. it will just sit there for up to two days before I canceled the requet
<agris_>
request
<agris_>
btw it's not a firewall issue on my end. I'm fully connectable over IPv4 and IPv6 public routables
<Acacia>
there's tor-only zeronet but it's extremely clunky and slow because tor doesn't want people doing peer to peer stuff and zeronet is made in spaghetti python following no standard other than the source code
<Acacia>
and it's not really for filesharing as much as it is for hosting decentralized websites, but you can just host a filesharing website obviously
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<Acacia>
I'd like a way to do ipfs over i2p only though. If you mix that with the talk of peers talking to peers through other peers, then people solely on those more privacy-friendly networks can still talk to clearnet peers through other peers who can talk through both
<Acacia>
It has worked for zeronet, some people browse it tor only, some people browse it clearnet only, but there's enough people doing both tor and clearnet that seeders are passing files between both "sides"
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<postablesDiscord>
@agris_ my company operates an i2p ipfs gateway
<postablesDiscord>
And we develop a bunch of plugins for i2p+ipfs in general
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<linas>
So ... IPNS question: if I have millions of objects to publish, I need to manage millions of IPNS keys? Or is there some other way? (clearly, managing millions of DNSLink entries won't work...)
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<postablesDiscord>
If you want a million immutable links to changing content sure
<postablesDiscord>
You can think of a single IPNS key like a single DNS record.
<linas>
alternate question: suppose I have a CID that shows up in the Links[] array of several other objects. Is there a way of finding out the CID of those objects?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
you could have one ipns that points to the list of links, sure?
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
i’ve not actually had success yet publishing dag CIDs to IPNS but i’m not sure if that’s a limitation of IPNS in js-ipfs or just IPNS not working, because the later seems more plausible right now. it sure likes not working
<PhoenixDiscord[m>
if IPNS really can only point to dab-pb mfs files/directories then you could make a regular file which contains a list of CIDs to work around that
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