<rjharmon>
are `ipld` dags intended as complementary to `ipfs files` dags? Or would it be more accurate to say they'll be the next phase of evolution on `ipfs files`?
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<olizilla>
showing things as files is one thing you can do with ipld dags
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<olizilla>
I think of `ipfs files` as being a specific format of ipld nodes, and friendly file-system like view over the more general ipld dags
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<olizilla>
rjharmon: ipfs files are protobuf format ipld nodes. They contain `unixfs` data which is a spec for how represent a unix-like file system in ipld dag nodes.
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<vmx>
it seems to work without a swarm key :)
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<AphelionZ>
a question about private networks and IPNS
<AphelionZ>
since I only need consensus among my swarm, does that mean IPNS publish / resolve will be significantly faster?
<lgierth>
yeah it should
<AphelionZ>
great news
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<Kolonka[m]>
i hope that msg went through
<lgierth>
i don't think so
<Kolonka[m]>
"any tips on speeding [IPNS] up without a private swarm?"
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<AphelionZ>
Kolonka[m]: the best I could do was two things:
<AphelionZ>
1) background the ipns publish task so my users could request a publication and then come back after some minutes and see that it had completed
<AphelionZ>
2) on resolve, passing a lower dht-record-count argument than 16 (the default)
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<AphelionZ>
all that thanks to whyrusleeping ofc
<AphelionZ>
speaking of private swarms, what is the easiest way to set all that up?
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<AphelionZ>
do I need to do anything besides simply have the swarm.key in my $IPFS_HOME, as well as have no bootstrapped peers?
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<tperson>
AphelionZ: you should only need the swarm.key, you will want to remove the default bootstrap peers though as you will not be able to connect to them any longer. Not strictly required though I believe.
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<AphelionZ>
one thing I noticed is that I no longer have any addresses:
<whyrusleeping>
AphelionZ that happens when your node is not running
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<whyrusleeping>
oh, i see. you're running a private swarm
<whyrusleeping>
thats expected then
<AphelionZ>
whyrusleeping: hmm but how do I connect to it? sorry if that's a dumb question
<whyrusleeping>
both nodes have to have the same swarm key
<whyrusleeping>
then just connect them like you normally would
<AphelionZ>
whyrusleeping: ok I have the same swarm key but how do I get the address if now `ipfs id`
<whyrusleeping>
start the daemons?
<AphelionZ>
and they'll just discover each other?
<whyrusleeping>
sorry, its early. I realize when i said "thats expected" a few minutes ago, i was wrong. If they are started and they have daemons running, there should be addresses there
<AphelionZ>
ah nevermind
<AphelionZ>
ok one last question... in my ipfs/config file I havve the swarm address set as /ip4/0.0.0.0/tcp/4001 but when i run ipfs id there's no public address
<AphelionZ>
this is probably expected, just making sure I guess
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<AphelionZ>
I think maybe I'l getting confused between what a private node is vs a private swarm or something
<AphelionZ>
II'd like to still interact publicly with my node(s) via a gateway and or publishing/resolving IPNS names but have it just be a private network
<Kolonka[m]>
>2) on resolve, passing a lower dht-record-count argument than 16 (the default)
<Kolonka[m]>
Would this need to be done on the gateway-side of things AphelionZ ?
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<AphelionZ>
no, on the request
<Kolonka[m]>
That's what I meant, yeah
<Kolonka[m]>
Although I'm hoping to have it resolve quickly through the official gateway
<Kolonka[m]>
(since I want what I published to be available publicly and easily)
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<AphelionZ>
so PUBLISH, as i understand, is going to be slow no matter where in the public network it happens
<AphelionZ>
resolve can be sped up by telling it to only wait for consensus on, for example, 3 peers instead of 16
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<AphelionZ>
is there a way to have an open gateway AND a private swarm?
<AphelionZ>
likewise, is there a way to have an open API and a private swarm?
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<tperson>
Both of those should work.
<AphelionZ>
both of which, my proposed mitigations for IPNS or my gateway and API?
<AphelionZ>
because im afraid the latter do not, if i have a swarm.key in my $IPFS_HOME
<tperson>
gateway / api
<tperson>
What issues are you facing?
<AphelionZ>
hrmm
<AphelionZ>
well just simply that I can't access the gateway in private mode
<tperson>
Are you doing this all on the same machine, or do you have a server?
<AphelionZ>
i have a server
<AphelionZ>
actually it looks like my gateway might be ok hang on
<AphelionZ>
ahhh i see
<tperson>
The gateway and api by default are only bound to 127.0.0.1
<AphelionZ>
I changed them to 0.0.0.0 and actually it's fine
<AphelionZ>
what ISNT fine is that i can't do IPNS name publishing with only one peer :D
<AphelionZ>
maybe I need at least 2
<AphelionZ>
I definitely do, and publication is blazing fast. that rules
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