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<jfhbrook> fwiw I don't think writing a blog post about how crappy your job is, is even bad, much less bad enough to warrant, say, putting them on a do-not-hire list
<ELLIOTTCABLE> jfhbrook: Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'd say it reflects … not-well on her character, but also like, super-mildly.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> It'd be like trying to higher an 18 year old, and when googling them, coming across them complaining about their life on Tumblr.
<jfhbrook> I'm not even sure it reflects negatively on one's character
<ELLIOTTCABLE> After like, a year, it really shouldn't (will, but shouldn't) affect her hireability. I'm pretty sure she learned a lesson from the results. /=
<jfhbrook> yeah I dunno
<jfhbrook> I don't want to like get into it, surprisingly
<jfhbrook> sometimes I can't stop myself from saying something though
<jfhbrook> it's probably one of my biggest failings
<purr> <alexgordon> is that when the asians arrive?
* alexgordon reads scrollback
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: funny, my position is the opposite. basic income is economically illterate, but the state definitely should be building basic housing for people, otherwise the lower classes are essentially locked out of cities -- where the wealth is
<ELLIOTTCABLE> economically illiterate how?
<alexgordon> two ways: 1) it's ridiculously expensive, and 2) it causes inflation
<alexgordon> say you gave everybody in america $1k a month ... that's 3.8 billion dollars a year
<alexgordon> erm, *trillion
<alexgordon> seems to be more than US federal tax reciepts
<ELLIOTTCABLE> Do you have any idea of what the GPD of the U.S. is? :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> just because *the government* cannot afford it, doesn't mean *the country* cannot afford it.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (20% of the entire world, iirc.)
<alexgordon> GDP is much more than the amount of money the government has to spend though
<ELLIOTTCABLE> more than the whole EU combined.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yes, of course.
<alexgordon> so where does the money come from?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> It's a given that basic income includes a tax hike.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> We're not gonna magically produce $1,000/year per person From Nowhere.
<alexgordon> well for one if you're doing basic income it would make sense to get rid of sales tax, since the two are opposites
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (nominally, *on non-essentials.)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I'd have to find the source, but there's a Srs Bsns Study that basically shows you can achieve an increased standard of living *across the board* (yes, that sounds like magic) with a 45% flat-tax and wealth redistribution
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (not that I advocate that, I think that's absolutely ridiculous)
<ELLIOTTCABLE> (just saying, macroeconomics are Fucking Unintuitive)
<alexgordon> wealth redistribution of what sort?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> as in, basic income
<alexgordon> and this flat tax is an income tax?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I think the explanation proffered for the effect was basically that increased governmental efficiency due to having to Do Less meant that there was exponentially less waste in the system as a whole, meaning that everybody benefited more than they lost.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yep
<ELLIOTTCABLE> now BACK TO STUDYING
<alexgordon> can't decide if libertarian or not
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lmao
<alexgordon> less government... 45% tax rate... less government... 45%...
<ELLIOTTCABLE> if so, then you've nailed my opinion-set. ;)
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: in the UK the top rate of tax used to be 90% (decades ago) then thatcher reduced it to 70% (?) it is 45% now
<ELLIOTTCABLE> again: not suggesting the U.S. experiment with that. Way too fucking high, for the majority.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> yeah, my federal tax bracket in the U.S. is 39.6%
<alexgordon> *not sure if a lot or not*
<ELLIOTTCABLE> alexgordon: wat. yes, 40% is a lot. didn't you just say the highest over there was 45%?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> lol accidentally typed this while meaning to speak in here
<purr> lolllll
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but it accurately represents my feelings:
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: yes but it's highly nonlinear. 40% is basically middle class. obviously it's marginal though
<ELLIOTTCABLE> highly nonlinear, wat
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: 40% rate kicks in at £31k
<alexgordon> 45% rate kicks in at £150k
<ELLIOTTCABLE> woah.
<pikajude> i'm playing huniepop
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: it's all dem pensioners :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> 15% jumps to 25% at £26k, to 28% at £63k, to 33% at £131k, to 35% at £286k
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: the government has convinced people that a pension is a welfare payment you get from the government. Don't need to save, the government will take care of everything!
<ELLIOTTCABLE> but yes, 85% of the population is paying less than 28%.
<ELLIOTTCABLE> amazing that 40% is like, a normal amount, over there.
<alexgordon> people get paid less
<ELLIOTTCABLE> You've gotta be well on your way to being a millionaire to lose that much of your money to the government, over here o_o
<alexgordon> a lot of people don't even make £31k, and those that do are too happy to care
<ELLIOTTCABLE> I mean, in what industries?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> UGH BACK TO HOMEWORK
<ELLIOTTCABLE> U R V. DISTRACTING
* ELLIOTTCABLE runs off and cries
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: also the first £10k is tax free, so that helps a lot
<alexgordon> ELLIOTTCABLE: yeah go study :P
<ELLIOTTCABLE> wait, so 40% of 31k when you make 41k?
<ELLIOTTCABLE> or 40% of 21k when you make 31k
<alexgordon> the first 10k is tax free, the next 21k is taxed at 20%, the rest is at 40%
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<pikajude> god i hate google sometimes
<pikajude> they show you query results with "Missing: some vital word of your query"
<pikajude> then you quote that word and get a bunch of bullshit results
<pikajude> go to the page, ctrl-f the word you searched for and there are no matches
<pikajude> what the fuck
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<pikajude> so what's the cheapest place to get a server you can install your own kernel on
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<purr> <nuck> 'What would Jesus do?' 'Well, probably skullfuck people.'
<pikajude> -what
<purr> <gqbrielle> damn.
<eligrey> woah someone reverse engineered eligrey.com https://github.com/mattrude/wp-theme-a-simple-blog
<eligrey> i just came across that when i was searching for something related to my extremely obscure custom font on eligrey.com
<eligrey> feels good that someone wanted to steal my website so badly that they actually tried to reverse engineer it lol
<purr> Lol
<eligrey> won't stop the dmca takedown though
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<purr> <Nuck> Yes, every teenage girl. Now I'm salivating so hard.
<purr> <elliottcable> I'm racist as all fuck when it comes to sex
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<purr> <brr> y r u watting
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<pikajude> dmca takedown
<pikajude> -what
<purr> <elliottcable> eboyjr is talking about how AI/ML is *good* for user interfaces, and offering help alex/jeanni add AI to Chocolat
<pikajude> man i just
<pikajude> i can't believe that github rewrote the hub tool in go
<pikajude> after writing it in ruby
<pikajude> that's some late stage hipsterism
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<purr> <eboy> ohhhhhhhhh
<pikajude> shut up purr
<purr> <sephr> yeah I had to change my opinion so I could disagree with you
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