<elliottcable> well, shit
<alexgordon> poo!
<elliottcable> poo.
<alexgordon> faeces!
<alexgordon> from a bat
<elliottcable> yes
<elliottcable> bat-faces, alexgordon
<alexgordon> elliottcable: things you don't want to see before a blowjob: http://vintageprintable.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Animal-Animal-head-Bat-Face-5.jpg
<elliottcable> yes, I was googling “bat faces” the other day
<elliottcable> saw plenty of that.
<alexgordon> blowjob bat will suck you dry
<elliottcable> have fun making a meme image for that
<purr> <Nuck> On the bright side, incomprehensibly, you can still write Objective C
<purrr> [Spark] none pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/elliottcable/Spark/compare/740a94c30308...9619b79df191
<purrr> Spark/master cee4c8a elliottcable: (! new meta) Changing the license to MIT.
<purrr> Spark/master 9619b79 elliottcable: (new meta) Updating the project for new idiomatic best-practices as of 2013. [see: elliottcable/Speck@a003af41]
<purrr> Spark/master a94ad5f elliottcable: (- fix) Crash and burn if the task doesn't find any specifications.
<elliottcable> yiss
<elliottcable> whitequark ⑊ Man, you gotta get colors working.
* elliottcable laughs
<elliottcable> also, the “live updates” checkbox doesn't work, if you have a selection.
* elliottcable tests
<elliottcable> yeah. no such luck.
<micahjohnston_> elliottcable: !
<micahjohnston_> my name has been mentioned so many times in the past couple hours
<alexgordon> sup micahjohnston_ !!
<micahjohnston_> alexgordon: !!
<micahjohnston_> -!
<purr> micahjohnston_: stop fucking doing that
<alexgordon> purr: asimov's 4th law: no swearing in front of the humans
<micahjohnston_> hah
<alexgordon> micahjohnston_: so what have you been doing recently?
<alexgordon> training to go to mars?
<micahjohnston_> alexgordon: started going to track today
<micahjohnston_> got full ride scholarship including housing
<micahjohnston_> lots of homework
<alexgordon> doing ironman?
<micahjohnston_> working on a game
<alexgordon> building a stargate in your basement?
<micahjohnston_> ye
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<Nuck> Going through my favstar... who the fuck is @RichardR on Twitter and why did they retweet my comment about elliott? o_O
<sanitypassing> >mfw people still use twitter
<micahjohnston_> Nuck: do you like the mountain goats
<sanitypassing> micahjohnston_: EVERYONE LIKES THE MOUNTAIN GOATS
<micahjohnston_> :D
<Nuck> What sanitypassing said.
<purr> <elliottcable> I’mma name my first child SIGWINCH.
<micahjohnston_> DANCE
<micahjohnston_> MUSIC
<sanitypassing> wat
<micahjohnston_> I must admit to only being acquainted with the sunset tree
<sanitypassing> so, one of my mom's friends told me that if I could get some old pictures off a non-working laptop, that I could keep said laptop
<sanitypassing> and now my little brother is begging me: "LEMME HAVE IT LEMME HAVE IT"
<Nuck> hahaha
* sanitypassing sighs.
<sanitypassing> little brothers are annoying.
<Nuck> And yes, sanitypassing, people still use Twitter
<sanitypassing> Nuck: >mfw
<Nuck> I have Tweetbot which makes it good
<sanitypassing> tweetbot?
<micahjohnston_> an app
<micahjohnston_> for using twitter
<Nuck> The best Twitter app
<Nuck> By far
<sanitypassing> iDevice app?
<sanitypassing> Yep!
<Nuck> Yerp
<sanitypassing> lol iPhone
<purr> lol
* Nuck huggles his iPhone
<sanitypassing> I have a 2nd gen iPod Touch
<sanitypassing> it doesn't run anything anymore.
<sanitypassing> it just sits there, mostly.
<sanitypassing> Good paper weight.
<Nuck> haha
<Nuck> I use dead babies as paperweights.
<Nuck> Far more effective, until they start rotting and seeping into the paper
<sanitypassing> yeah, I could see how that would get annoying after a while.
<Nuck> Yeah. Hard to find a baby dead without blood too
<Nuck> I generally have to do it myself, y'know?
<sanitypassing> I can imagine.
<sanitypassing> Yeah.
<Nuck> Order babies on Amazon in bulk
<Nuck> Kill 'em effectively (usually some form of asphyxiation)
<Nuck> Turn 'em into paperweights
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<purr> <gqbrielle> not really, you just poker face a couple times and there you are. gaga, gaga everywhere.
<devyn> ↑ one of gqbrielle's best quotes imo
<micahjohnston_> elliottcable: elliottcable elliottcable elliottcable :(
<purr> <Nexxy> I have a personal rule ... don't feel bad for people that name themselves after final fantasy characters.
<whitequark> elliottcable: live updates is not a checkbox
<whitequark> show join/leave messages is
<whitequark> as per colors; yeah
<purr> <incomprehensibly> BUT ELEPHANT REMAINED INSIDE
<Nuck> Holy shit, these scientists in Evangelion used a 4-letter password that's a real word to delete their programming
<Nuck> I've NEVER used a password that short
<whitequark> Nuck: that is unfortunately very realistic
<whitequark> well, almost, there's hardly much software left which will allow you to even set a 4-letter password
<whitequark> but...
<Nuck> whitequark: I think the self-destructing code (and the fact that they deployed uncompiled source to a production robot) is less realistic
<Nuck> I mean, what nuclear-powered giant robot would be written in an interpreted language? That just seems like something you'd do in C, C++, etc.
<whitequark> oh yes
<whitequark> it's better to let it segfault
<whitequark> unless you are in an extremely resource-constrained environment, and you are not, you do not have a single reason *to* use C++
<whitequark> but you have a thousands one *against*
<whitequark> (self-destructing code) seen the news about the latest chromebook?
<whitequark> if you mess with alsamixer too much it fries its speakers
<whitequark> with magic smoke and stuff
<whitequark> on practically any non-x86, or even non-PC device you have a multitude of ways to destruct the device from itself
<whitequark> CPU frequency/voltage, various incompatible register settings never verified by hardware (cheaper)
<whitequark> this is of course even more so for giant robots. ever wondered why are they powered by an RTOS?
<whitequark> or what a true RTOS is?
<whitequark> a true RTOS is an OS, and an environment, where the time required to respond to any event has a strict upper bound.
<whitequark> as per 4-letter passwords... pray you'll never ever see how, for example, our banks work. you'll obtain an irresistible urge to store your money in a pickle jar for the rest of your life.
<Nuck> whitequark: My bank is a startup that forces long-ass passwords
<Nuck> I'm quite content with this.
<Nuck> As for RTOS, yeah, I know about it. I know a guy who used one to build a huge-ass 3D printer that could, in theory, build another of itself, given the right supplies
<whitequark> Nuck: no, your bank isn't
<Nuck> haha true
<whitequark> it's basically a frontend to 40-year-old COBOL code which no one is able to maintain anymore
<Nuck> whitequark: I've heard that some parts of the COBOL are now being redone in C these days though
<whitequark> there are better interpreters and transpilers to C indeed
<Nuck> My professor works on such things for hte government
<Nuck> Also does rewrites in Java
<whitequark> this doesn't change the fact that the bank executives are extremely conservative
<whitequark> and it would be decades until the code will be written on something more modern
<Nuck> whitequark: They like to read the COBOL I'm sure
<whitequark> if ever
<whitequark> Nuck: they don't care; they simply resist any change.
<Nuck> Eventually it'll happen, once banking regulations go out the window and some startup realizes they can pounce on it
<whitequark> I have extreme doubts about that
<Nuck> whitequark: I'm referring to a complete government collapse, when I say "out the window"
<whitequark> unrelated
<Nuck> Banking regulations don't exist if there's nobody capable of enforcing them
<whitequark> besides
<whitequark> have you ever heard of a startup which "revolutionized" an industry?
<Nuck> And if there's no regulations, eventually some crazy bastard will implement it in C, and then there'll be bindings to Ruby, etc.
<whitequark> except IT
<Nuck> whitequark: Amazon revolutionized fulfillment, or so I've been told
<Nuck> ebay revolutionized yard sales
<whitequark> something tangible. oil processing, steel mills, etc
<Nuck> craigslist revolutionized sex trafficking.
<whitequark> Nuck: that is still communication
<whitequark> i.e. IT.
<whitequark> all of three.
<Nuck> ... Apple revolutionized glass?
<Nuck> By commissioning gorilla glass
<whitequark> Amazon for sure has huge warehouses, but Walmart does either
<whitequark> lolwat gorilla glass is 50 year old or so
<purr> lol
<Nuck> whitequark: Yes, but they hadn't produced it in such thin plates, ever
<whitequark> again, you confuse the reason and the consequence
<Nuck> I read a huge-ass writeup on it by corning's R&D
<Nuck> Apple went to corning, requested a thin plate of glass with amazing strenth, they provided gorilla glass
<whitequark> link
<Nuck> Hold om, lemme get the article...
<whitequark> ah well, found it
<Nuck> Well shit, I can't find the article, but it got to #1 on HN
<Nuck> Ah, found it?
<whitequark> wikipedia links to it
<Nuck> Ah
<Nuck> Not surprising
<whitequark> besides
<whitequark> this is *still* IT
<whitequark> (and it's not like Apple was a startup at that point)
<Nuck> If you have such a broad definition of IT, then yeah it's a problem :P
<whitequark> it's just that startups have a very peculiar defintion of "innovation"
<Nuck> haha this is also true
<Nuck> Aha! I just thought of a field startups innovated!
<Nuck> EDUCATION.
<Nuck> I have experience in this field, I come from a family FILLED with teachers
<Nuck> No less than 3 directly related to me, plus a few more beyond that
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<whitequark> Nuck: hm. that is correct.
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<purr> <purr> elliottcable: a box of lights
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<Nuck> Every time I hear the term "Diffie-Hellman" I think of a sex move.
<Nuck> Like, "I Diffie Hellmanned her, and she was like putty in my hands."
<purr> <judofyr> elliottcable: what's up with sephr and OMFG, or whatever it was called again?
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<sephr> any good movies come out these past 50 years?
<PragCypher> rubber
<PragCypher> its a movie about a tire that becomes self aware and kills people with its telekenetic power
<PragCypher> a must see
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> elliott said he didn't like it
<PragCypher> tbh it was good and bad
<PragCypher> it was waaaaay too slow
<PragCypher> but it had its moments
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<purr> <micahjohnston> but the discussion of how sociopolitical dynamics lead to particular fat-carb ratios in MREs versus USDA recommendations for civilians is qutie interesting
<whitequark> re Diffie-Hellman
<whitequark> there is some great fun in russian with participles and gerunds and nouns which look exactly like those two
<whitequark> but you gotta be russian to understand
<whitequark> "он вокзал её целую жаркую ночь"
<whitequark> also, "батарея -- это же деепричастие! что делая? батарея"
<alexgordon> just realized there's no H in russian
<whitequark> alexgordon: no letter or no sound?
<whitequark> "It commonly represents the voiceless velar fricative /x/"
<whitequark> that for sure does sound like an arcane sex act
<purr> <purr> !potato teleporter
<alexgordon> whitequark: …both?
<whitequark> alexgordon: I've just linked you to those?
<whitequark> s,to,,
<alexgordon> "like the Scottish pronunciation of ⟨ch⟩ in "loch"."
<whitequark> if that's "loch" as in "loch ness monster", then it's "лох"
<whitequark> sounds kinda same for me
<alexgordon> no no it's saying X is like the ch in loch
<alexgordon> not like the H in "Happy"
<whitequark> uh are those different h's?..
<alexgordon> yes?
<whitequark> I was never very good with spoken English :/
<alexgordon> it depends on accent a lot, you might get a hard H in scotland I suppose