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<maaku> moneromooo: why would you ever choose TLS exccept to interop with an existing system?
<maaku> waxwing: elements alpha used Schnorr
<maaku> and since you're technically asking about signature algorithms not curves, cryptonote's ring signatures count
<waxwing> right. both different curve and different sig algo.
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<moneromooo> That's kinda what I'm asking, yes (specifically vs that system I linked to).
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<maaku> moneromooo: I think I'm saying the opposite. No one in their right mind should choose TLS for something new that requires interop
<maaku> Too much of an attack surface (complexity)
<maaku> *that doesn't require interop
<maaku> waxwing: well, does zcash's snark curves count as authentication?
<moneromooo> The opposite of... ?
<maaku> moneromooo: you asked why doesn't bip-151 specify "use SSL"
<moneromooo> Anyway, yes, complexity is one major difference.
<maaku> one very simple answer is complexity
<maaku> we kinda went down that route with X509 and payment protocol and everyone regrets it
<moneromooo> Oh ? Sorry, I did not mean to ask that. I meant to ask the pros and cons of each.
<maaku> waxwing: i would be interested in a supersingular isogeny curve for quantum resistance. i don't think anyone has looked at this though
<moneromooo> Complexity is important, but if the other happens to have a large flaw in some usage patterns, the complex one might be better in tht case. Hence asking.
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