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<waxwing> andytoshi, what's the best/most up to date link for adaptor sigs (attaching to a presentation) (not including my own write up of course)
<kanzure> andytoshi says there are new things in the layer2 conference presentation (no trnascript yet)
<kanzure> too much biology on my mind, i mean transcript
<waxwing> heh
<waxwing> the boston thing? i think i watched it yeah. nbd.
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<waxwing> am i the only one who always wants to write Monero-Sanchez instead of Moreno-Sanchez
<kanzure> missingno-sanchez
<kanzure> 330663ef6b0e88148d27c2743fd224765a82370cd43da7954d047a696ac3c26e http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/filehashes.2018-06-18.txt
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<yoleaux> sha256 hashes of various bitcoin papers http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/filehashes.2018-06-18.txt H(file) == 330663ef6b0e88148d27c2743fd224765a82370cd43da7954d047a696ac3c26e @otsproofbot2 (@kanzure)
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<andytoshi> waxwing: yeah, that's the most up-to-date one i think. also the malavolta/moreno-sanchez paper if you want to really get into it
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<andytoshi> that paper covers everything that i would cover in a formal writeup, so now as far as writing goes, i think the most important thing is just applications .. and for that it's probably more useful to write code than algebra at this point
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<waxwing> so i'm reading the mailing list posts/discussions about graftroot, but just wondering if there are any notes or writeups on examples of how it might work (like: sample keys, sample script, set of steps followed by participants); it's easy to think you understand what you're reading but .. not to.
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<andytoshi> waxwing: not really any notes on graftroot, there's been a lot of private back-and-forth about what those details would even look like
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<kanzure> waxwing: some notes on implementation details are sort of placed in this file http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-core-dev-tech/2018-03-06-taproot-graftroot-etc/
<waxwing> kanzure, oh, thanks, i think i missed that one first time round.
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<waxwing> what's the latest thinking of how to do M of N with schnorr? i notice it being referred to but realise i have no idea what mechanism is implied.
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<waxwing> so can't graftroot be thought of completely generically, without even reference to taproot or multi-party, like: coins are in output of key P, i, as owner of P, can at any time sign a new redeeming condition (script) with key P and hand that to other parties, and they can then spend out of P?
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