<ericxdu>
C-Keen: probably. I don't see anything in their faq that indicates they re-render pages or anything weird
<ericxdu>
I've noticed people are dissatisfied with the fragmentation of Android platform. If this is due to all the non-libre forks of Android, what other tangible bad has come out of that situation?
<ericxdu>
non-libre, non-free, proprietary re-licensed forks of a permissive-licensed OS
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<jfred[m]>
The proliferation of devices for which the manufacturer doesn't care enough to mainline their changes
<jfred[m]>
Leading to thousands of devices locked to old kernels
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<jfred[m]>
I can't be sure, but I have a feeling that has at least something to do with it
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<ericxdu>
jfred[m]: That's pretty much the jist of it huh? Maker doesn't care, user gets the shaft.
<ericxdu>
To use a euphemism
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<jfred[m]>
Though libre vs. proprietary isn't the biggest part of that - the kernel is GPL and the better manufacturers follow that and release the code
<jfred[m]>
But I don't think libre software alone is enough, we need a culture change
<jfred[m]>
(In the mobile world that is - the desktop Linux world has a great free software culture IMO)
<jfred[m]>
ericxdu: Unlikely - the people frustrated by fragmentation are mostly users trying to use devices a few years after their release, not the manufacturers. (And developers who can't assume most of their users are even able to upgrade their phones.)
<jfred[m]>
The manufacturers have to maintain n branches of the kernel, where n is the number of devices they're currently supporting, but that may be less effort than trying to upstream their changes.
<jfred[m]>
And as Luke said, once they have your money, they have little incentive to care
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<lkcl>
jfred[m]: this is why it's important to break proceessing units out of the control of the manufacturers.
<lkcl>
EOMA68 modularisation forces processors to be considered as general purpose computers and the housings as merely peripherals
<lkcl>
just like the pc industry 15-25 years ago
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<jfred[m]>
Or like the desktop PC industry today, honestly
<jfred[m]>
But yes, EOMA68 definitely helps to better align manufacturers' incentives with the long-term needs of their customers
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