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<OverTheStars>
hello.
<Jiangyi>
Holla.
<OverTheStars>
Out of curiosity, do devices outside of the captivate get more frequent release candidates?
<Jiangyi>
Urm.... All the CM devices get the same number of RCs afaik. o-o
<Jiangyi>
Well, that is, the not-incredibly-buggy-and-unusable ones.
<OverTheStars>
well I know nightlies are nightly XD
<OverTheStars>
And I try not to criticize because, I am not the one coding.. But, I sometimes wish there were more "stable" releases if you will.
<Jiangyi>
Meh. :-|
<Jiangyi>
With the addition of the M series, I think it's OK lol
<OverTheStars>
One of my only gripes with CM has been trying to keep track of a changelog XD
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<OverTheStars>
along with the frequency of releases without any actual release candidates.
<OverTheStars>
the M system seems like a dream come true.
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<Jiangyi>
Yeah, M1 got off to a rough start though.
<Jiangyi>
Had some changes that made a ton of devices' CRT-off animation all derpy xD
<OverTheStars>
ouch >.<;
<Jiangyi>
M2 should be good to look forward to though. :-P
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<OverTheStars>
if I had more time, I wouldn't mind flashing nightlies and reporting back on them.. but, I'm not the brightest cookie and calc adds a lot to my plate.
<Jiangyi>
I'll probably still stick with nightlies, I want bleeding-edge stuff too much. xD
<OverTheStars>
I like bleeding edge but, I don't know that there is enough advantage in it.
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<OverTheStars>
also, whats the deal with the f2fs?
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<Thracky>
bleh. why is everything so boring today.
<Thracky>
I have no desire to do anything but go to sleep and it's 9 pm
<OverTheStars>
@thracky I have a test tomorrow and should be doing hw.
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OverTheStars: Command does not exist!
<OverTheStars>
so it's only 8 but, it feels like 12 x.x
<Thracky>
well, there's all sorts of things I'd "like" to do, but have no desire to do them at the moment
<OverTheStars>
ah.
<Thracky>
and I have midterms next week so should probably study.
<OverTheStars>
so, know anything about the f2fs file system?
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<reuben>
just rooted my samsung galaxy s2 gt i9100
<reuben>
ics 4.04
<reuben>
and flash cyanogenmod 9 onto
<reuben>
its stuck on the boot animation
<reuben>
help??
<OverTheStars>
pull battery reflash?
<Jiangyi>
reuben: Wipe data in recovery.
<reuben>
i wiped data in recovery, wiped cache aswell
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<reuben>
@overthestars, so i do it again?
<bbqbot>
reuben: Command does not exist!
<OverTheStars>
Pretty much.
<OverTheStars>
if something doesn't work the first time for me, I wipe data and reflash.
<OverTheStars>
if all else fails, odin to stock, then try again.
<reuben>
yep okay i'm trying that, thank you
<OverTheStars>
np
<reuben>
possible to charge while doing this? is it safe?
<OverTheStars>
I think (at least for my phone) having the charger in can sometimes make it do whacky things.
<OverTheStars>
like no restart properly or not boot into cwm.
<reuben>
oh right, alright
<reuben>
usually
<reuben>
how long does the boot take for cm9?
<OverTheStars>
It's been ages since I installed CM9 but, the first boot can take a while.
<OverTheStars>
that's sorta a "standard" for most roms I've used.. a slow initial boot up
<reuben>
yep its working perfectly now, i just had to clear dalvik cache
<reuben>
thank you so much!!
<OverTheStars>
np
<EgotisticalElf>
reuben, first boot builds dalvik cache for nearly the entire phone :)
<OverTheStars>
So out of curiosity how much difference is there phone to phone assuming two phones have identical hardware but, different manufacturers?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Jiangyi>
OverTheStars: Probably very different. :-P
<Jiangyi>
Different manufacturers have their own way of implementing things.
<OverTheStars>
So even if the Galaxy S3 and Xperia Tl have the same S4 krait processor, the development for the two could be very different?
<EgotisticalElf>
international sgs3 vs US sgs3's
<EgotisticalElf>
both made by samsung but different internally
<EgotisticalElf>
i9100 vs i9100G
<OverTheStars>
I'm discussing US SGS3. My apologizes, I forget there is major differences.
<Jiangyi>
Yeah, very different.
<Jiangyi>
Even though they use the same CPU, doesn't mean that they use the same board, wifi chip, etc. :-P
<OverTheStars>
Oh well.. Lovely x.x
<OverTheStars>
I am seriously considering the Xperia TL but, I'm kinda worried it won't have the same level of dev support as the S3.
<OverTheStars>
Hey..so if I were to explain root to my friend, would I be horribly mistaken by comparing it to admin priviliges on a windows box?
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<Thracky>
I was gonna answer that
<Thracky>
but he left.
<Jiangyi>
Yeah. :-|
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<Jiangyi>
OK, that's enough work for one day.
<Jiangyi>
<--- Sleep
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<Jiangyi>
Blah.
<Jiangyi>
Phone randomly started bootlooping in the middle of the night != fun.
<Jiangyi>
That, and I lost data, which makes it even less fun.
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<Jiangyi>
OK, sleep for real now.
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<Tecuany>
hi, just want to know if i can install CM10 on my gt-i9100
<Tecuany>
im from mexico
<Tecuany>
actually i have cm9 stable
<Tecuany>
i tried to install cm9 night but i couldn´t
<Tecuany>
i tried too with cm10 experimental. those from i9100G
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is bored and tired
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<tanazzz>
hey anybody there
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<bealtine^>
no
<tanazzz>
kay
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<tanazzz>
i have a question if someone's willing to answer
<bealtine^>
press the red button
<tanazzz>
I'm using Midteam 2.2 right now on my galaxy note n7000 and i want to move to Cyanogenmod 9 is it absolutely necessery to go back to gingerbread
<peterperfect>
tanazzz y u no go to cm10?
<DarkLegend>
yes ^^ as he said
<DarkLegend>
and also not necessary
<DarkLegend>
i mean not necessary to go to gingerbread
<tanazzz>
well because i installed CM10
<bealtine^>
root, cwm and falsh rom
<tanazzz>
and everything was fine i installed gapps
<tanazzz>
and then after a reboot
<tanazzz>
my camera just disappeared
<tanazzz>
wich i didn't enjoy very much
<peterperfect>
probably u did something wrong
<peterperfect>
:)
<peterperfect>
or do you think everyone on cm10 has no camera?
<bbqbot>
derp
<peterperfect>
xD
<DarkLegend>
and camera is integrated into gallery
<tanazzz>
probably because gapps for CM10 wouldn't install and I had to go with the ones for ICS
<DarkLegend>
:o
<Xello>
lol
<tanazzz>
maybe that's what caused the issue
<DarkLegend>
you flashed gapps-jb or gapps-ics?
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<addi>
Baskey, LG makes good enough hardware. only their software has always been crap, and since this is a Nexus, that shouldn't be a problem
<addi>
btw
<addi>
Baskey,
<addi>
whats up dood?
<Baskey>
I'VE GOT BALLZ OF STEEL
<Baskey>
addi,
<Baskey>
whats up dood
<addi>
though not sure I want an LCD display over SAMOLED. Even the One X display sucks
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<Wolvy>
Hello
<Baskey>
I want LCD over SAMOLED
<addi>
if only Nokia allowed others to use their ClearBlack displays >.>
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<addi>
LCDs suck, boring as hell, poor blacks
<Fissurez>
addi: isn't the one x supposed to have a nicer display than the s3?
<Fissurez>
that's SAMOLED IIRC
<addi>
well, it's brighter
<addi>
but it's extremely boring
<addi>
black levels are shit
<Wolvy>
Could someone tell me if its possible to install CM10 on an ICS device? My S2 isn't yet updated to JB. Should I go ahead and install CM10 anyway?
<bbqbot>
derp
<addi>
those that say One X display is better than S3's must be really boring individuals
<Fissurez>
you've been spoiled by the high contrast of the samoled :D
<addi>
and the problem is, only Nokia is working on better black levels on even LCDs, all else are failing with LCDs
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: are you using CM9?
<addi>
yeah, I guess ^^
<Wolvy>
No.. I rooted my phone a couple of weeks ago.. Its still using stock firmware..
<Wolvy>
Rooted with Chainfire's kernel
<addi>
though I can make do with only SAMOLED-level blacks, higher contrast not a requirement :p
<Fissurez>
addi: that's because nokia are actually a good company, that realised that they sucked and bombed symbian
<addi>
and killed MeeGo. bastards
<Fissurez>
could have been worse, could have been HP
<addi>
I would have gone over to MeeGo in a jiffy, leaving messed up Android behind
<Fissurez>
and meego is now integrated into tizen iir
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: you'd need to wipe.
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: i take it you have an i9100?
<addi>
yes, and Jolla is also working on it, most of original MeeGo team is in Jolla
<Wolvy>
Yes. i9100
<Wolvy>
Indeed
<Fissurez>
addi: except it looks like touchwiz XD
<addi>
not really
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: follow the standard ROM install thingie
<addi>
TouchWiz is cheap and cartoonish
<addi>
MeeGo might be a bit funky, but not at all cheap
<Fissurez>
i.e. wipe, check to see if you have the Superbrick bug, and deal with it accordingly
<addi>
but anyway, the N9 MeeGo UI wont be there
<Fissurez>
probably check for superbrick bug first
<Wolvy>
Oh ok.. Good. One more question.. Will installing this wipe out every app in my device?
<addi>
new UI by Jolla, so no "swipe interface" like N9 probably :(
<Wolvy>
Would I need to install all the apps all over again..
<Wolvy>
?
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: you should wipe EVERYTHING
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<addi>
EVERYTHING?
<Fissurez>
you can probably back up your apps with titanium backup
<Fissurez>
EVERYTHING
<cantIntoCode>
yes, everything
<addi>
you only need to "wipe data/factory reset" :p
<Fissurez>
but you will have to reinstall them all
<Fissurez>
addi: counts as everything!
<Wolvy>
Yes.. I have already done that.. After installing CM.. Is it ok to restore them
<addi>
xD
<Wolvy>
?
<Fissurez>
Wolvy: as long as you don't restore system apps i'd imagine
<[SkG]>
addi, if you come from another rom you should wipe everything
<addi>
okay, me thought you were the "wipe data, cache, dalvik cache, system, ass, floor" kind :p
<[SkG]>
between nightlys is not needed
<tanazzz>
I'm the guy with the Note N7000 thanks guys all is well in jellybean land very happy about it :)
<addi>
[SkG], I know ;)
<[SkG]>
between major versions is recomended (CM9-CM10)
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<Wolvy>
Sounds good :)
<Fissurez>
[SkG]: i didn't wipe from cm9 to cm10 :D
<[SkG]>
ow addi sorry I meant Wolvy
<addi>
xD
<addi>
no problem ^^
<Wolvy>
Got it! :)
<[SkG]>
Fissurez, I had minnor issues from cm9 to cm10 that I solved with wipe
<addi>
Fissurez, I moved between 5 different ROMs on my GNex, without wipe. no problems :p
<[SkG]>
so for me... "Its recomended"
<Fissurez>
woop
<Fissurez>
<- too lazy
<addi>
try without wipe, then wipe if problems arise. >.>
<[SkG]>
yep that's what I do
<addi>
cantIntoCode,
<addi>
whats up dood
<cantIntoCode>
tired, long day
<cantIntoCode>
yourself
<addi>
tired, long day ^^
<addi>
actually, yesterday was long day, still reeling from the effects xD
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<LPirro>
SamsungExynos: @SamsungExynos We're taking your feedback about full document. very seriously and are working to resolve the situation. We really do value your opinions!
<LPirro>
Seems The EXYNOS MOVEMENT by xdadevelopers worked!
<Fissurez>
wat
<bealtine^>
not yet...
<bealtine^>
vague promises != worked
<cantIntoCode>
yep
<cantIntoCode>
sounds like a sort of generic reply
<bealtine^>
worth a shot tho
<LPirro>
Yes, I agree with you. But something is changing and this is already a small goal!
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<Ghiottone>
hello. any android user from argentina willing to test a free app from the market?
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<azizLIGHTS>
if you wanna flash a rom, how do you reset everything so it is a clean slate before flashing?
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<bealtine^>
you use the wipe option in cwm
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<azizLIGHTS>
do i wipe the system, or cache or dalvik
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<azizLIGHTS>
bealtine^: do i wipe the system, or cache or dalvik
<bealtine^>
only really need system but do the lot:)
<azizLIGHTS>
i see
<azizLIGHTS>
is there a preference for which cwm version to get on a galaxy note i717?
<bealtine^>
whichever is the latest
<azizLIGHTS>
i heard that some older cwms the wipe option is a little broken (doesnt wipe everything?)
<bbqbot>
derp
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<bealtine^>
dunno if worried get the latest
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<JackBauer24>
Is Cyanogen 10 for Galaxy S problematic or it's safe for daily use?
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<bealtine^>
i use it everyday
<suxdickinson>
one friend os mine uses everyday on galaxy s and loved...
<suxdickinson>
friend of
<JackBauer24>
ok, thanks for the info
<azizLIGHTS>
if i root my stock ics note, i wont be able to update to stock jb through kies?
<bealtine^>
no
<azizLIGHTS>
in what situation would kies tell you you cant update then?
<azizLIGHTS>
to stock versions
<bealtine^>
eh?
<bbqbot>
derp
<bealtine^>
kies is a pos
<azizLIGHTS>
how else would you get stock ?
<bealtine^>
dl a stock rom and flash it with odin/heimdal
<azizLIGHTS>
ah ok. sorry for the stupid questions....
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<vlj>
hi
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<vlj>
is it possible for AOSP to ship project butter on exynos phone without the userspace component source of the gfx part ?
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<vlj>
?
<bbqbot>
derp
<chadouming>
@bomb vlj
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vlj, you have been challenged!
<bbqbot>
Answer (red, blue, green, orange, brown) before time runs out!
<bbqbot>
10
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<vlj>
?
<vlj>
did I say something wrong ?
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<vlj>
I'm asking that because closed source gfx drivers make thing complicated when supporting new xorg or kernel
<vlj>
and project butter relies a lot on the gfx part to handle vsync/ triple buffering
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<gnudebian>
OK fine boss gave me a i9300 today. Got home about 10min ago and need to hack this thing up. Just the way I am. In Sweden with a unlocked i9300 ...
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<gnudebian>
Sooo where the f is JB? Not out? OK fine CM10 looks good.
<gnudebian>
How does it run on this phone?
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<gnu_debian>
Where is the git CM10?
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<Jiangyi>
That'll get you all the things related to building for the I9300^^
<Onryo>
Jiangyi I take it Eclipse is what most are using... my dear emacs!
<Jiangyi>
chadouming: You answer that^ :-|
* Jiangyi
doesn't use Eclipse ><
<Thracky>
yeah eclipse is what most are using
<Jiangyi>
Then again, I don't program.
<Onryo>
Eclipse is a mess
<chadouming>
haha
<chadouming>
but yeah, most use eclipse
<Thracky>
meh, it's the only IDE I've ever used :P
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<chadouming>
with android plugin
<Jiangyi>
I'm still doing whatever editing that I do with Gedit xD
<chadouming>
Onryo: sure, but it'S free
<Onryo>
so is emacs =)
<chadouming>
eclipse has android plugin made by google
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<Onryo>
Not even sure Eclipes is still in the Debian repos. OK I use testing since I am a dev. Eclipse is OK for Java but it is so bloted and patched up for anything else.
<Thracky>
there's .el stuff for emacs in the android source (whatever that's for :P)
<Thracky>
ah, elisp
<Onryo>
but the real reason I LOVE emacs is because it pisses off so many xcode users =) They love it when I reminde them that they are on plagiarized FreeBSD code.
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<Thiagovfar>
Eclipse was fine... Until Juno
<Thracky>
I dunno, I use it for pretty basic stuff and it's ok :P
<Thiagovfar>
Juno is not Okay. You can't even ctrl+Z right
<Thiagovfar>
Unless that's a *nix-specific problem
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<Thracky>
yea, I've had no probs with it in win.
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<Onryo>
Well we all like the smell of our own farts. I guess mine is emacs. To be honest Eclipse is not all bad. Just a big patched up.
<Thracky>
I haven't done much with it in nix
<chadouming>
we use eclipse classic tho
<chadouming>
not the java version
<Onryo>
For Java its fine
<Thracky>
control-z seems to work fine in arch for me
<Onryo>
Pydev and other stuff like that suck though.
<Thiagovfar>
Thracky: Waaah, looks like I'mma have to get rid of Ubuntu then.
<Thracky>
building in arch 64 bit is a pain in the ass.
<Thracky>
I had to rip some of cody's buildscript to fix some oddities with the kernel modules
<Thracky>
(of course this was after I spent 3 hours figuring it out the long way, when he had already done it ages ago)
<chadouming>
lol, y u no use BBQLinux ?
<Thracky>
this is IN bbqlinux :P
<chadouming>
haha
<Thracky>
although, a bit of an early version I think.
<Thracky>
dunno though, cause I have no idea what the current is :P
<Onryo>
Where is the source/mans/docs for this Exynos ...
<bealtine^>
none
<Thracky>
nowhere, it's exynos :P
<Onryo>
WTF?????
<Onryo>
your joking?
<Thracky>
no.
<Thracky>
which is why a lot of devs are jumping ship after current projects are stable :P
<Onryo>
how can anybody get anything done ... ohh no not a new nVidia story in my life.
<Thracky>
(or before they're stable depending on how much they can put up with)
<Onryo>
I learned the hard way with nVidia and AMD ...
<chadouming>
lol, another noobs jumping here and thinking it was easy
<chadouming>
and it's why dev were leaving xD
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<Onryo>
I started using Intel because of nVidia and AMD be'n dicks
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<chadouming>
not sure of logic
<Onryo>
Was coding for nouveau
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<Onryo>
Reverse engineering (or at least try'n) for weeks and weeks is not fun when you know there is some fat cat sitting on the code
<chadouming>
lol, we believe more that samsung is trying to block reverse engineer
<chadouming>
with a rather easy solution tho
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<Onryo>
... Why they would do that. I don't trust anything. I take pride in that =P You know I just read the NS A is blocking ZTE and Huawei from more or less everthing. Why? Because they think there are back doors in the hw. Takes one to know one.
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<chadouming>
lol
<chadouming>
Onryo: it's not really wanted from them tho
<chadouming>
i guess, hiring monkey with down syndrom has some collateral damages on the code you produce
<Onryo>
lol
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<Thracky>
k so I'm kinda noob at this but... eclipse isn't generating the .java files for a couple aidl's for some reason :|
<chadouming>
you got an error preventing it from generating file
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<chadouming>
but i'm not better, i'm not even able to install google SDK on my windows 8 pc :(
<Thracky>
lol
<Thracky>
win8 on my laptop is great
<Thracky>
boot/shutdown times are incredible with an ssd
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<chadouming>
yeah
<chadouming>
well, wake up from sleep is even better :P
<Thracky>
so the issue is with the cm updater interfaces... but they're so damn simple...
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<Thracky>
but the main IUpdateCheckService depends on the IUpdateCheckServiceCallback interface... so maybe it's trying to do it out of order and freaking out?
<chadouming>
dafuq
<chadouming>
it says it can get a version from java
<Thracky>
bleh ok so trying to do aidl manually... and it's complaining about the import of IUpdateCheckServiceCallBack, which now exists in .java form.
<chadouming>
yay, got it to install
<Onryo>
Got to hit the sack its getting late
<cantIntoCode>
Onryo: you like vim?
<Onryo>
I guess its OK. Thing is ppl tend to like what they use. I code a lot of C and have been using emacs for years ... so I like emacs but I know ppl who love vim too
<chadouming>
no one like VIM
<Onryo>
=P
<chadouming>
no one want to use vim
<chadouming>
no one with common sense want vim
<bealtine^>
i hate both equally
<chadouming>
first thing i install in linux is nano
<Onryo>
What was that about the retarded monkeys with down syndrome? Did not say I did not have friends that are not retarded code monkeys. But yeah the vi vs emacs things has been going on for years.
<Thracky>
I'm lame and prefer nano :P
<Onryo>
nano is just for edit'n stuff?
<Thracky>
yeah
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<Thracky>
basic shell scripts and such
<chadouming>
and php
<chadouming>
and js
<chadouming>
and html
<chadouming>
:D
<Thracky>
yes but I don't do any of that :P
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<Thracky>
except tiny bits of html, and of course I'm in win when I'm doing it and just use notepad++
<chadouming>
yeah, notepad++ is so win
<Onryo>
kate might be better for that. I wont ever look at Gnome stuff again so gedit does not exist =)
<Onryo>
notepad++ What is that?
<Onryo>
Is that the price of the new notepad?
<Thracky>
open source notepad heh
<Onryo>
ahh
<Onryo>
mousepad leafpad all the same
<Onryo>
for little things nano is fine.
<Thracky>
yeah I don't do anything large in nano
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<Thracky>
usually just hunting for one small thing
<chadouming>
notepadd++ is really nice
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<NADAV>
ya
<NADAV>
i was wondering if the latest version of this rom is based on the offical JB
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<chadouming>
like cm team dev are winzipers
<NADAV>
i was wondering if the latest version of this rom is based on the offical JB
<Onryo>
This sounds dumb but does anybody have a clue beside "soon" when JB will comming out. If not does anybody have an IP to one of Samsungs servers ... with code on it J/K
<chadouming>
NADAV, maybe there was a reason why i kicked you ?
<chadouming>
@geo user NADAV
<bbqbot>
Resolving hostname for NADAV
<bbqbot>
Resolving ip for 258e866b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.142.134.107
<bbqbot>
Error resolving ip for gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.142.134.107
<chadouming>
@geo ip 37.142.134.107
<NADAV>
idk im kind of new in this scence..
<chadouming>
@geo host 37.142.134.107
<bbqbot>
null
<chadouming>
great
<chadouming>
well, it's not really a new science.
<chadouming>
you came here
<chadouming>
say hey
<chadouming>
and asked 1 question and i kicked
<chadouming>
you
<chadouming>
1min20sec later, you come back and ask the same question
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<chadouming>
nadav, you asked more stupid question that i can handle
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<Onryo>
The suspense is killing me .... and that is?
<bbqbot>
derp
<Onryo>
Well I am going to hit the sack ...
<Onryo>
Then I am going to bed. Getting late here in Sweden
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<Thracky>
why the hell would import fail when the interface being imported is in the same damn package :|
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<Thiagovfar>
Thracky: Because... Java
<chadouming>
+1
<chadouming>
let's all hate java :D
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<chadouming>
stoopid user
<Thracky>
so I removed the package portion of the import statement since it's in the same package, had to run it from the root of src with full paths to the package, and aidl works magically :|
<Thracky>
seems like an awfully hacked together way to do it though.
<Thiagovfar>
I don't think you need to import something that is in the same package
<Thracky>
I didn't think so either, but someone put it in there :P
<Thiagovfar>
Unless you're using import static
<chadouming>
hmm, well java is hacky to begin with
<Thracky>
whoever's doing cmupdater.
<chadouming>
Thracky: Y U NO SIMPLY USE BBQTOOLS ?
<Thracky>
I haven't even looked at bbqtools :P
<chadouming>
well, play store it
<Thracky>
speaking of bbq related things... why does the cm10 appspot changelog look so different for d2att for example than bbqlog?
<chadouming>
-_-
<chadouming>
cause we use github while they use gerrit
<Thracky>
ah
<Thracky>
does it understand that a lot of d2att stuff comes from d2-common? :P
<chadouming>
we has changelog while they have a maybe/will/has/probably changed list
<chadouming>
yes
<chadouming>
we built it and i maintain it and i can assure you i know what i did
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<Thracky>
not saying you didn't, just checking :P
<chadouming>
pff
<chadouming>
:(
<chadouming>
get bbqtools from play store
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<chadouming>
enjoy both changelog method
<Thracky>
just as a comparison though, look at the oct 9th nightly for d2att on appspot... like config.xml enable battery LED and battery light settings.
<Thracky>
pretty significant, but doesn't show in bbq
<chadouming>
look on oct 5 :P
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<Thracky>
it's acting like the 5th was the first nightly :P