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<adam12>
I think I already know the answer to this but does anybody know if you can swap out the entire object passed to a block for another like-object?
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<pipework>
Isn't that just wonderful.
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: how'd you think you would do it?
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<adam12>
al2o3-cr: I'm not sure...
<al2o3-cr>
adam12: but you said I think I already know
<adam12>
al2o3-cr: Yeah, as in 'not possible' :)
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<pipework>
I'm not sure about what you mean, exactly.
<pipework>
What kind of swapping? Where?
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<al2o3-cr>
adam12: an an example of what you're really try to do would help:)
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<adam12>
New HTTP wrapper client by technoweenie called Hurley. Need to add Digest Auth :\. I figured I would use the callbacks offered before and after the request to determine if the request was 401, and if so, retry with Auth digest.
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<adam12>
When I make a new request inside that callback, I receive a valid response object, the same type yielded to the callback in the first place. Trying to return the new one instead.
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<al2o3-cr>
adam12: why would you need to?
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<adam12>
Because the original request is 401, the subsequent request is (hopefully) 20x.
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<baweaver>
<3
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<baweaver>
Ah, and miah, if you're ever hacking over the weekend feel free to ping me some time. I tend to frequent coffee shops up and down the bay
<zenspider>
baweaver: which ones?
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<baweaver>
There's a Five Barrel right down 2nd I tend to go to a lot as a default since it's on the way to work.
<miah>
im always hacking. but i rarely leave my house.
<miah>
i would be up to meeting up though
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<baweaver>
*Four Barrel
<miah>
ya i used to work in that area of soma
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<baweaver>
We're over on 2nd and Harrison, so right by 21st Amendment
<miah>
cool
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<baweaver>
Have a friend that just moved up from KC and another friend that moved up a while back working for Google that just emerged to the light of day again I'm catching up with this weekend.
<zenspider>
I would like to find some places in the bay area that have the taste of blue bottle but without the snobbery
<baweaver>
Yeah, I need to try that
<baweaver>
I keep getting teas from Spicely, need to find some other good shops around there.
<zenspider>
blue bottle is very very good. just... asshats
<zenspider>
come up to seattle and I'll buy you the best cappuccino you'll ever have
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<baweaver>
I might actually be up there in July
<baweaver>
My Dad is from Centralia
<baweaver>
so he makes a point of going up for Seahawks games all the time, sometimes tries to fly me out too
<zenspider>
I've worked in centralia
<baweaver>
Still reeling from that Greenbay game
<baweaver>
Even though I rarely if ever watch football
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* baweaver
doesn't want to mention the superbowl
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<miah>
mmm a super bowl of ceral. good idea.
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<miah>
cereal too =)
<baweaver>
Heh
<baweaver>
I could do without the Giants games clogging BART though
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<Bermulium>
jhass, lol
<jhass>
what's funny?
<centrx>
must be one of those kids born after Sept 11
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everything changed
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<al2o3-cr>
oh, ok. only just seen what you said :)
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<data-cat>
How can I do the opposite of Hash.inspect? So like, turn a string back in to a hash.
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<apeiros>
data-cat: that bears the question: why?
<apeiros>
data-cat: take a look at literal_parser gem. it does that without eval.
<jhass>
data-cat: but do not just proceed, the why is important here, there's likely a better alternative to what you're doing
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<data-cat>
I have some hacky code that stores a simple hash in our database by turning it in to a string first.
<jhass>
serialize to yaml or json then
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<data-cat>
ahh, I didn't think of that
<data-cat>
Thanks
<data-cat>
that will be much better, and easier to work with
<apeiros>
+ or marshal
<apeiros>
(as another option)
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<apeiros>
personally I'd probably go with json if its data types suffice, yaml otherwise.
<apeiros>
marshal only if performance matters
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<data-cat>
Yea, json will work perfectly here.
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<atmosx>
Anyone knows how to run this 'R' script? http://pastebin.com/pgZVC6N1 - I'm kinda stuck with the syntax.
<ruboto>
atmosx, we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
<atmosx>
ruboto: okay sure
<atmosx>
ah n/m just made executable.
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<zenspider>
atmosx: is the question about how to run R scripts and pass args?
<atmosx>
zenspider: it was yes, but making the script +x solved the issue.
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<zenspider>
atmosx: and running with `R script.R` args didn't?
<zenspider>
oops. `R script.R args`
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<atmosx>
zenspider: nope, didn't work for me. Not even after adding --no-save ... It was the first thing I've tried, since it's the std way or running script under nix
<zenspider>
oh looks like it should prolly be `R batch script.R args`
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<atmosx>
I've seen that too on SO after a google search... But I thought that it was a windows-specific flag.
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<atmosx>
hm, my bad.
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<zenspider>
*shrug* I try to avoid R... I was just looking at `R --help`
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<atmosx>
zenspider: I'm still trying to run this thing, but doesn't produce an output. http://www.spinellis.gr/blog/20150113/index.html I thought the 2nd arg should be a directory where data will be exported, but hm it's not.
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<zenspider>
2nd arg is "name"... looks like it is only for the labels
<atmosx>
ah my bad it works
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<adaedra>
Hello
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<HotCoder>
who here uses ruby on vim? report to me please
<sevenseacat>
report? lol
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<apeiros>
probably just not english as mother tongue
<apeiros>
HotCoder: it's better if you ask a specific question instead of asking for people
<apeiros>
when/if somebody can help you, they will
<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, lol ye
<HotCoder>
i dont have a specific question
<HotCoder>
i just want to learn ruby
<sevenseacat>
so why do you need vim users?
<HotCoder>
and i am trying to ask vim users why they think vim is better
* apeiros
steals wizard hats again
<sevenseacat>
whats that got to do with learning ruby?
<HotCoder>
what is the advantage of vim over sublime in regards to learning ruby
<HotCoder>
is my question
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<sevenseacat>
editors are about personal preference
<jhass>
none
<apeiros>
"in regards to learning ruby" probably none
<jhass>
move on
<HotCoder>
welp, moving on is my thing so..
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<sevenseacat>
if you dont already use vim, its just another thing to learn before you can do what you actually want to do
<wasamasa>
HotCoder: using vim or emacs won't magically make you a better programmer
<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, yea i agree. but im trying to learn as much as i can
<HotCoder>
so i guess i'll learn vim along the way too
<HotCoder>
wasamasa, it wont. but im trying to find out which is more powerful
<wasamasa>
HotCoder: knowing either of them however can make for a nicer editing experience
<wasamasa>
HotCoder: that question doesn't make much sense
<DLSteve>
I use a bloated IDE :P
<sevenseacat>
and then you'll spend the next week learning vim, then the week after that choosing extensions and plugins, and then you still wont know ruby
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<HotCoder>
lol
<jhass>
I think we cleared that up, next topic please!
<HotCoder>
i've been putting it off for months now. still dont know ruby
<wasamasa>
then you might have greater problems than choosing a text editor
<sevenseacat>
ah, so we're into 'looking for excuses not to do it' phase?
<HotCoder>
i love how this channel comes with a free therapy session :D
<wasamasa>
it sure sounds that way :P
<sevenseacat>
in that case, let me point towards this list of editors, or even this list of alternate languages!
<wasamasa>
HotCoder: don't worry, we're experts on this topic
<HotCoder>
wasamasa, the therapy? ruby? or vim?
<sevenseacat>
i'm learning elixir atm. i quite like it.
<wasamasa>
HotCoder: procrastination
<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, do you now? i'm originally a java coder. its a little lengthy, little painful, little slow
<HotCoder>
in ways its just like me
<wasamasa>
lol
<sevenseacat>
btw, do you have a favorite colour scheme or theme for your editor? what about a font? :)
<HotCoder>
red and comic sans!
<wasamasa>
red is not a color scheme
<HotCoder>
sigh
<HotCoder>
orchard wonders
<HotCoder>
thats my favorite colour scheme
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<sevenseacat>
I'm a Dobdark kind of woman.
<wasamasa>
I'm still hung up on solarized dark
<sevenseacat>
never liked solarized
<wasamasa>
since it avoids making my eyes hurt when staring on it for prolonged times
<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, and you know what they say about dobdark women
<wasamasa>
I assume the same goes for zenburn users
<HotCoder>
that i "installed" but it dont recognize the rvm command
<sevenseacat>
what os are you on?
<HotCoder>
rvm: command not found
<HotCoder>
raspbian
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<HotCoder>
so a variation of linux
<HotCoder>
do i have to set the default?
<sevenseacat>
is your terminal a login terminal?
<sevenseacat>
if not, you'll need to set it as one
<HotCoder>
then install again? or?
<sevenseacat>
no, then it will work
<jhass>
personally I just add the source line to the .$SHELLrc
<HotCoder>
jhass, how do i do that then?
* sevenseacat
shrugs
<jhass>
look at the profile, transfer that line to the rc
<sevenseacat>
I dont even use rvm
<jhass>
well, same for the other things
<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, yeah it works for the login terminal
<HotCoder>
i had the same problem with node
<sevenseacat>
:)
<HotCoder>
but i had to set the defaults or something
<HotCoder>
i need to know how to make it available to all terminals :P
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<sevenseacat>
uh... you configure your terminal to be a login terminal
<sevenseacat>
which is what i just said
<jhass>
or transfer the source line to the rc
<jhass>
which is what I just said
<sevenseacat>
either will work :)
<HotCoder>
jhass, how to transfer source line
<jhass>
you open both files in your editor and do it
<sevenseacat>
you need to know how to edit a file?
<shevy>
you shout Cthulhu three times
<HotCoder>
what files
<HotCoder>
what files do i edit and what line do i put on there
<shevy>
lol
<jhass>
the profile your shell reads and the rc your shell reads
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<HotCoder>
i have no idea what this is
<HotCoder>
anyone got a link that explains
<HotCoder>
how to do this
<sevenseacat>
i guess thats a yes
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<sevenseacat>
you know the instructions that told you to put some lines in .bash_profile? do that, except for .bashrc
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<shevy>
anyone has an idea why this does not work? https://gist.github.com/shevegen/3acd16d8a92c6216253f the part "alias e puts" does not seem to work when it is put inside the module; it works when I put it on top outside the module
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<shevy>
hmm it does work when it is an instance method...
<apeiros>
shevy: alias aliases instance methods
<shevy>
aaaaaah
<apeiros>
shevy: you must put it into a self << class; end
<shevy>
cool, thanks
<apeiros>
if SOME_VALUE; class << self; alias e puts; end; end
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<zotherstupidguy>
/away
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<shevy>
/I do not believe zotherstupidguy
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<pontiki>
morning
<apeiros>
moin pontiki
<adaedra>
hi
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<shevy>
king pontiki has arrived
<pontiki>
what mischief today, mavens of the gem?
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<pontiki>
:/
<pontiki>
not king
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<shevy>
hehe
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<HotCoder>
sevenseacat, you seem to know a lot about this matter. what is the latest version of rvm?
<hasan>
hi :) is there any one know how can i disable query cach in rails 4.x?
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<jhass>
?rails hasan
<ruboto>
hasan, Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions.
<apeiros>
hasan: #rubyonrails
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<apeiros>
oh, we have ?rails. good :D
<jhass>
you know you're allowed to create these too? :P
<apeiros>
ooooh, I am?
* apeiros
does the happy dance
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<HotCoder>
lele pons
<hasan>
ruboto , apeiros : thank you :) i will ask this question in #rubyonrails :)
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<apeiros>
any volunteer to write an article for ruby-community.org about nickname registration and identification (bonus points for mentioning sasl and showing config of some major clients)?
<apeiros>
the format would be .markdown
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<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros i may kickstart it, and others may fine-tune it
<apeiros>
sure
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<apeiros>
I'm a fan of kaizen
<zotherstupidguy>
yeah
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<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros i'm forking the repo, where should i put it?
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<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: you don't need to fork the repo. you can just write a .markdown file and gist that
<apeiros>
but if you want to go via repo fork… let me see…
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<arietis1>
hello guys
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<arietis1>
anyone knows of any good state machine gem not tied to data model?
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<arietis>
so i just create machine object, add states, events and callbacks
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<arietis>
aasm looks good for my needs
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<konsolebox>
if callcc is deprecated, how do we do long jumps now (multi-level loop breaks / continuations)?
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<apeiros>
multi-level "breaks": throw/catch
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<konsolebox>
apeiros: slow
<apeiros>
callcc is still available via require 'continuation'
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<apeiros>
konsolebox: are you sure you're using the right language?
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<konsolebox>
apeiros: continuation?
<apeiros>
I can write it again if that helps…
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<konsolebox>
apeiros: that feature shouldn't really be necessarily hacked.. ok i get it. too bad really how a simple necessary feature has never been added
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<jhass>
I gather you worked with C for a long time? :P
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<jhass>
zotherstupidguy1: s/requires a/allows/
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<konsolebox>
apeiros: i see you're actually trying to avoid something. so how would you directly implement 'continue n'? i'll let you go with the 'break n' for now as my current 'hack' makes use of throw for breaking.
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<hololeap>
what would the yard documentation look like for a method with a "splat" parameter: def my_method(*args); p args; end
<zotherstupidguy1>
jhass?
<jhass>
I usually take the opportunity to extract into a small method and use return
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<jhass>
zotherstupidguy1: first sentence in your gist ;)
<apeiros>
konsolebox: `ri Kernel#catch` in your console (assuming you have docs installed)
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<konsolebox>
apeiros: i could give Ruby's actual implementation a chance but I find it likely that throw/catch is nothing like break -> but more of an exception handler (just a little faster maybe).
<jhass>
hololeap: you just make it part of the name
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<hololeap>
jhass: could you give me an example?
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<hololeap>
the method i'm trying to document should take 1-inf parameters
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<konsolebox>
"If +throw(tag2, val)+ is called, Ruby searches up its stack for a catch block whose tag has the same object_id as tag2. When found, the block stops executing and returns val (or nil if no second argument was given to throw)."
<konsolebox>
Mind the "searches"
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<zotherstupidguy1>
jhass thanks, apeiros was that what you had in mind?
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<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy1: currently reading
<jhass>
hololeap: I just @param *args You pass this and that here
<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy1: so far looks good
<konsolebox>
apeiros: I've seen the manual. There's never a part that makes it continue. I could create a hack for it of course. But that's nowhere near a Ruby feature for 'continue n'.
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<hololeap>
jhass: ok. wasn't sure if that was the "proper" way to do it
<zotherstupidguy1>
apeiros best writing is re-writing
<zotherstupidguy1>
its a kickstart
<jhass>
hololeap: I didn't find anything at least
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<hololeap>
jhass: the closest thing i found was yard's @overload tag
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<jhass>
konsolebox: if you share your code that needs it we may be able to suggest an idiomatic alternative
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<apeiros>
konsolebox: if by `continue n` you mean in the sense of a continuation, then I again refer you to `require 'continuation'` and callcc. additionally also see Fiber.
<konsolebox>
jhass: yeah, using a yielding function. that's a hack, not an idiomatic alternative.
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<jhass>
hololeap: mmh, no, @overload I'd only use if behavior differs
<hololeap>
jhass: ok
<konsolebox>
apeiros: duh!!!!!!!!! didn't you see my first question????
<apeiros>
konsolebox: you can stop that attitude right now or go.
<apeiros>
konsolebox: and to remind you - I gave you that answer right with your first question
<konsolebox>
apeiros: callcc is deprecated referring to Fiber now as the preferred solution. And Fiber does not have that kind of feature.
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<apeiros>
konsolebox: then amend your question accordingly.
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<baweaver>
konsolebox: probably not a good way to make friends
<konsolebox>
apeiros: there's nothing to be amended. it's pretty clear.
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<konsolebox>
baweaver: would you make friend with people judging you quickly as ignorant?
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<baweaver>
I could care less, but you've not exactly been a saint yourself.
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<jhass>
baweaver: please just leave it
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<apeiros>
konsolebox: I refer you to jhass' suggestion. "jhass: konsolebox: if you share your code…"
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<konsolebox>
baweaver: i don't think the one you should say that to is the one that hasn't started it
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<apeiros>
konsolebox: I apologize for my aggressive behavior. What I said with regards to your behavior still stands, though.
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<apeiros>
and to me, that marks the end of that branch of the discussion. I prefer on focusing on the problem at hand.
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<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: the part about sasl is irssi or weechat specific? or does it work the same for both?
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<konsolebox>
This is my solution using callcc: https://bpaste.net/show/0077fe881453. If I'd like to continue the loop, I'd call call() with object generated by callcc. If I'd like to break the loop, I'd throw the object. Now I need another good solution for that as callcc is already deprecated.
<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros about ssl?
<apeiros>
well, yes
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<zotherstupidguy>
i checked it both on irssi and weechat and it seems it works for both. however the /save seems not to be really required by weechat, maybe someone with more experiance with weechat might wave in
<jhass>
konsolebox: idiomatic alternatives only work for specific code/usage
<jhass>
not for general things you deem missing
<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: ok
<jhass>
zotherstupidguy: weechat autosaves every 10 minutes or so
<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: I think we'll not get around to do the SSL/SASL part per client. so yes, looks great. I'll take the upper part for the generic article and put the bottom part into weechat/irssi specific articles
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<jhass>
so it doesn't hurt
<konsolebox>
jhass: are you planning using another function to wrap-up code so you could "continue" it again if necessary? or you planning to use yet another outer loop for that?
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<jhass>
konsolebox: I do not plan anything, beyond looking if there's a way to restructure your code that doesn't need the functionality you desire in the first place
<zotherstupidguy>
great!
<zotherstupidguy>
it could be better, but its a start!
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<konsolebox>
zotherstupidguy: if you're talking to me, it doesn't always get better. most of the time it actually gets worse - the code's logic gets broken just to keep-up with these "idiomatic hacks"
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<jhass>
konsolebox: if you want to rant, please do not direct it at people
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<konsolebox>
jhass: if people would stop the * sarcasm perhaps. am i the only one to be told unto here?
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<apeiros>
I haven't seen anybody be sarcastic towards you, konsolebox.
<apeiros>
and zotherstupidguy didn't even talk to you.
<jhass>
I don't see any sarcasm either, I suggest you step back, cool down and then take another look at it then. If you stay inpolite I have to force that you do that
* zotherstupidguy
thinks he is a good person, in theory!
<ruboto>
atmosx, Just ask your question, if anyone has, they will respond.
<atmosx>
I'm having a hard-time placing tag.haml and calendar.haml ... they don't seem to work. I have gave a 'blog' prefix in the config.rb ... If I put them into blog/ dir middleman comes up with an error while if I put them in the source/ dir the sitemap clearly ingnores them...
<atmosx>
ah n/m there's a forum.
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<konsolebox>
jhass: btw, restructuring code would not apply to every code. continue 2 is a necessity. the alternative for it is using functions to wrap-up code, and sometimes even end up having unnecessary "recursive" calls. functions that only clutter-up the source file or the source tree which shouldn't have been necessary.
<jhass>
you're experience and mine differ there. If you can't accept that there's nothing to be said anymore
<jhass>
your*
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<konsolebox>
jhass: i have enough experience to realize this. the one who thought he should always wrap-up code in functions - i've been there. only newcomers would do that.
<jhass>
(I did start with a programming language that provided that constructed, moved to python which doesn't have it and then to ruby that doesn't have it. I missed it in neither because both provide idiomatic alternatives to the usecases I had
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<jhass>
and on the risk of you interpreting that as insult, I think another point that differentiates us that I don't interpret my opinion as fact
<konsolebox>
jhass: if you try to balance efficiency and readability - you could be near there. but some only care about "false?" readability
<apeiros>
konsolebox: the experience you gained in another language does not necessarily port over to ruby
<konsolebox>
jhass: i'm not telling that it's you. i just met some
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<jhass>
if you allow me to suggest something more on the meta level, maybe try to be less absolutistic (is that English?) about your opinion, voice and argue yours, but accept if somebody has a different opinion on a subject, let them make their own mistakes if you think they're wrong
<jhass>
I had to learn that too, language matters here, a "in my opinion/in my experience" in front of your argument helps a lot to keep a civil conversation
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<cek>
is sslsocket .syswrite mri thread-safe?
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<mwlang>
how do you write rspec scenarios for async interactions with external servers?
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<baweaver>
promises probably
<mwlang>
or in other words, I know that when I send an outgoing call to an external server, it’s eventually going to send a response back.
<baweaver>
Opal talked about something similar at least.
<mwlang>
right now, I just keep querying the database and sleeping until I detect a record’s inserted into the table (which I know my app’s going to do when it gets that response back)
<apeiros>
mwlang: stub external dependencies
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<grumpowl>
mwlang: You don't make requests in tests.
<apeiros>
unless you explicitly want to test the external server
<baweaver>
You don't make requests in /unit/ tests. #ftfy
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<baweaver>
There are occasions by which you want integration testing on more critical calls
<mwlang>
so, what about integration tests to ensure what we’ve built really works as intended?
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<mwlang>
baweaver: I’m mostly concerned about more critical calls here.
<apeiros>
you'll probably block your test until the async call returns
<grumpowl>
I don't make external requests in the normal test suite. But I might with a double server implementation to ensure the double still acts like the real server.
<mwlang>
apeiros: so is there a way to detect that async call returns other than watching for side-effects in the db?
<baweaver>
but it'll be some combination of callbacks or promises
<apeiros>
mwlang: uh, an async call usually means you have a callback which is invoked when data is ready
<apeiros>
so you'll hook into that
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<apeiros>
if you can't, you probably have a case of bad coupling at hand
<mwlang>
apeiros: ah. now we’re getting to the meat of it. so I guess that brings up the next question: how to “hook into it” — it’s probably less that “I can’t” as “I’m not sure how to go about it"
<UnKnOwN|>
Hello all, anyone mind taking a quick look at an exercise I'm working on to see if the code example is valid, or if this was based on an old version of ruby and its no longer valid: 'http://tryruby.org/levels/4/challenges/1' at the very bottom of this where: books = {} makes the hash then the NEXT page has you assign values to the hash, but it says use: 'books["Gravity's Rainbow"] = :splendid', doesnt seem to work, and ruby2.2.2 m
<mwlang>
eam: yeah, that’s what I’m doing…except my polling is against the database. this was fine until latest scenario in which the external server responded in an unexpected way.
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<baweaver>
mwlang: promises
<mwlang>
baweaver: thanks! this kind of structure is what I was mentally picturing.
<mwlang>
baweaver: is promises part of opal as well?
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<baweaver>
a promise is an async concept that something promises to eventually return a value
<jhass>
UnKnOwN|: did I answer your question? If not could you go into why it doesn't work?
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<baweaver>
Opal is Javascript in Ruby
<UnKnOwN|>
jhass, your answered my question, seems this IDE the tutorial wrongs on is just buggy
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<baweaver>
I just figured they'd have RSPEC helpers for testing it
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<UnKnOwN|>
iit atfirst did not work, then with the given example, does, then if you add a non-given example, it no longer works...
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<mwlang>
ah…opal more or less solves the problem the same way I did…running a rack-up server for testing purposes, but their async block syntax dries up the specs a good bit.
<grumpowl>
Opal is a ruby to JS transpiler, no?
<baweaver>
yeah
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<baweaver>
I just thought that since it was ruby syntax they probably made RSPEC helpers for Javascript-ish concepts like promises and async
<ebonics>
is opal better than coffeescript ;o
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<baweaver>
Never tried it
<jhass>
?best
<ruboto>
"Best" and "better" are subjective. Try to use a different term.
<baweaver>
I just write straight JS
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<ebonics>
best and better arent subject
<ebonics>
ive
* baweaver
grabs popcorn
<ljarvis>
?help
<ruboto>
I don't know anything about help
<jhass>
ebonics: let's say whether they are subjective is subjective then ;)
<ebonics>
no
<ljarvis>
is ruboto apeiros'?
<baweaver>
meta
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<jhass>
ljarvis: yeah
<ebonics>
i have some problems with js
<ebonics>
i mean coffeescript
<ebonics>
ffs
<ljarvis>
everyone has problems with js
<ebonics>
it does like absolutely no type analysis
<apeiros>
ljarvis: I run it. and at the moment it's fully closed source. but it'll eventually be mostly open sourced (mostly because it runs opper tasks and I want to keep those parts closed)
<ljarvis>
apeiros: makes sense
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<mwlang>
ok, I think I’m just going to keep on with the test suite I’ve been working on but set up some rspec around filters to get rid of the tedious setup/wait code I’m repeating in the tests. i.e. as described here http:/ /arjanvandergaag.nl/blog/using-abusing-rspec-metadata.html
* baweaver
actually likes Javascript
<ebonics>
in coffeescript
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<ebonics>
for index in [0..(aList.length-1)] <- that
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<ebonics>
gets converted to this -> for (index = _i = 0, _ref = aList.length - 1; 0 <= _ref ? _i <= _ref : _i >= _ref; index = 0 <= _ref ? ++_i : --_i) {
<ebonics>
like :|
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<ebonics>
well i should be more clear, even this does too: for index in [0..aList.length]
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<ljarvis>
lgtm
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<balazs>
anyone knows how to change the default port for dashing ?
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<ljarvis>
balazs: dashing start -p [port]
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<zotherstupidguy>
balazs dashing is just a sinatra app, same rules apply
<balazs>
ljarvis: thanks !
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<zotherstupidguy>
balazs i thought it was discountined?
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<zotherstupidguy>
or was that batmanjs
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<balazs>
hmm, haven't heard. Any recommendation to use something instead ?
<zotherstupidguy>
whats your project about?
<mwlang>
jhass / baweaver - thanks for your feedback. I think I have a good plan of attack now that will reduce my spec authoring burden.
<ljarvis>
the last dashing update was less than 20 days ago
<balazs>
zotherstupidguy: displaying system monitoring info
<zotherstupidguy>
i played with dashing and gridsterjs to do some cool server monitoring stuff, but that was like 2 years ago
<zotherstupidguy>
yeah its perfect for that
<zotherstupidguy>
ljarvis then batmanjs is the one discounined
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<zotherstupidguy>
let me check
<zotherstupidguy>
Batman.js is no longer in production at Shopify and is not actively developed. :(
<mwlang>
dang!…dashing is nice.
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<zotherstupidguy>
one of the coolest featuers of dashing that never got picked with other frameworks the that compnent thingy.
<mwlang>
has anybody hooked up dashing to system monitoring? cpu, memory, page requests, etc.
<zotherstupidguy>
its like aspx web components, but better ofcourse
<zotherstupidguy>
nwlang i used it for api monitoring
<mwlang>
zotherstupidguy: yeah..I liked it. The first thing popping into my mind is to have a sidebar of widget names…as soon as you drag from the sidebar to the main area, you get a full sized widget for dropping somewhere in the layout.
<zotherstupidguy>
dashing got this right, and no other framework picked it up
<zotherstupidguy>
the only cruel thing was they used batmanjs which is not widely used
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<zotherstupidguy>
also it really takes a js guy to play around comfortably with all the scss stuff and widgets, i hacked a lot
<mwlang>
zotherstupidguy: I thought batmanjs lived and died an early death…kinda surprised it’s still around.
<zotherstupidguy>
its not
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<mwlang>
can they be built with coffeescript?
<zotherstupidguy>
but dashing still use it, i think
<zotherstupidguy>
i belive dashing uses coffeescript by default,
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<mwlang>
zotherstupidguy: its still using batman bindings.
<zotherstupidguy>
i also remmber there was a widget compitetion once by shopify
<jhass>
because the , binds to the array a is assigned
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<jhass>
you probably seek a, b, c = 10, 20, 30
<FernandoBasso>
jhass: So, a receives the value of b and c which were assigned 20 and 30?
<FernandoBasso>
jhass: I am aware of that syntax. Just that I tried this other one and was surprised by the result.
<jhass>
not quite, it receives the value of the assignment expression, which its rhs
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<FernandoBasso>
But why isn't b assigned [20, 30] if a was [10, 20, 30] ?
<jhass>
a = [(10), (b = 20), (c = 30)]
<atmosx>
Guys any quick way to turn this string -> 2015-04-18 12:01:05 into this "201504181201.05" I manage to do it, but the code is ugly as hell. I call gsub 3 times..
<jhass>
strptime().strftime?
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<atmosx>
strptime >
<atmosx>
let me check it
<jhass>
or .sub(/:(?=\d{2}$)/, ".").delete("-: ") I guess
<c_nick>
How can i achieve this is a better coding way .. if obj.nil? == true #set default value else #set given value
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<FernandoBasso>
Ah, I remember reading something that doing `myvar = a, b, c` creates an array.
<jhass>
c_nick: obj ||= "default" ?
<FernandoBasso>
Thanks for all clarification.
<c_nick>
jhass: ok so there is an OR and || (like C)
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<baweaver>
careful though as one has much lower priority (or)
<c_nick>
jhass: no i think in my case archive_name.nil? ? @archive_name = 'Run' : @archive_name = archive_name
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<baweaver>
@archive_name = archive_name || 'Run'
<jhass>
^
<c_nick>
i am setting the class variables based on the arguments passed in the contructor
<baweaver>
then put it in the constructor as a default
<jhass>
atmosx: seems to expect a Time, so you can throw away the string munging and go for strptime straight :P
<c_nick>
why do i get temp_dir_loc as nil
<c_nick>
in make dir fn
<atmosx>
jhass: hm. right
<baweaver>
Sent a suggestion to the meetup group to get some casual coffee meetups around later. cc miah dudedudeman eam / anyone else in SF
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<Ox0dea>
c_nick: You're using "temp" in some places and "tmp" in others.
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<jhass>
c_nick: also please work on your indention (ruby community standard is two spaces btw)
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<c_nick>
Ox0dea: Shit your right .. my bad.. i never realized it
<jhass>
a classes methods should be indented a level towards the class definition
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<c_nick>
jhass: oh its the ubuntu Pastebin when i copy code it goes bizzare !
<jhass>
then use gist ;P
<Ox0dea>
c_nick: You
<Ox0dea>
are using hard tabs.
<EllisTAA>
can anyone link me to code that is a good example of recursion, i’m trying to get better at thinking recursively
<c_nick>
Ox0dea: hehe yeah :P Scite And i guess thats the reason why it got such an indent in paste.ubuntu
<atmosx>
jhass: I should really buy you a beer at some point in time (maybe via paypal)
<c_nick>
I will customize it to two spaces
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<jhass>
EllisTAA: I can give you a nice exercise: you have a hash of hashes and other values, nested arbitrarily, you don't know how deep. Open the Hash class and add a method recursive_each that yields all key/value pairs whose values are not hashes
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<c_nick>
Thanks all works fine now
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<EllisTAA>
jhass: so i have a hash of hashes and those nested hashes can have more hashses but they can also not have more hashes?
<eam>
EllisTAA: towers of hanoi is a good recursive exercise
<EllisTAA>
i guess my problem is i want to be able to identify when recursion might be a good solution … any tips on how to spot recursive problems?
<jhass>
EllisTAA: well, the idea is there, it's missing passing around the block you should yield to, but for the recursive part that was too easy I guess :P
<eam>
at the risk of sounding flippant, any algorithm that repeats itself
<EllisTAA>
jhass: what do u mean “itsmissing passing around the block you should yield to”?
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<eam>
EllisTAA: often applications are in the form of traversing a linked structure, or anywhere else you might use a while loop and state variables
<EllisTAA>
jhass: what does the &block refer to? why not just calli it hash?
<EllisTAA>
eam: thanks ill look more into that
<jhass>
&block refers to the passed block
<EllisTAA>
jhass: but aren’t we passing it a hash?
<jhass>
no, I reopened Hash there ;)
<EllisTAA>
haha im confused but thanks for helping
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<eam>
while (condition) { state = do_thing(state_change) } => def f(state) { if condition; return []; else return do_thing(state - state_change) }
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<eam>
to use a super generic pseudocode example
<vsipuli>
When packaging a Ruby application that depends on Gems, but is itself not supposed to be a reusable Ruby library, does it make sense to package the Ruby application as a Gem itself? (A Bundler Gemfile takes care of the application Gem dependencies)
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<apeiros>
vsipuli: yes
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<eam>
EllisTAA: the state could be a linked list, it could be a chess board representing pieces, it could be an integer
<apeiros>
gem with an executable in bin and dependencies
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<eam>
do_think could be "next element", or it could be "next move" or some math function
<EllisTAA>
eam: 0_o i think i’m going to have to look into linked lists. thanks for helping me out
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<existensil>
did you hand obfuscate that?
<vsipuli>
Why does invoking a function like "foo" work, but "Bar.foo" gives an error about an undefinedmethod "foo" on module "Bar"? (Invoking with "Bar.foo()" works though)
<jhass>
code to reproduce?
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<vsipuli>
apeiros: What added value does packaging a Ruby application as a proper Gem provide compared to just using a Bundler Gemfile, in your opinion?
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<Ox0dea>
existensil: Maybe...
<apeiros>
vsipuli: makes it easy to share and install.
<vsipuli>
jhass: Sorry, can't reproduce it. Seems like I had messed up my IRB environment somehow.
<jhass>
would've surprised me otherwise :P
<apeiros>
vsipuli: you don't need any custom instructions.
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<ebonics>
how do you guys usually track where classes, methods, etc are in a big ruby application?
<Ox0dea>
ebonics: Method#source_location is pretty great.
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<ebonics>
Ox0dea, so you run code to find out where stuff is? :o
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<apeiros>
ebonics: conventions
<apeiros>
ebonics: always map class names to filenames
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<apeiros>
ebonics: Foo::BarBaz --> foo/bar_baz.rb
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<ebonics>
apeiros, i'm working with a pretty massive ruby applicaiton with many dependencies and hierarchies etc
<apeiros>
s/class names/constants/ (classes and modules are usually assigned to constants)
<ebonics>
it's basically a nightmare trying to find stuff
<ebonics>
current i'm using grep lol
<apeiros>
ebonics: why?
<apeiros>
did they not follow the above convention? most ruby code bases do…
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<apeiros>
also when in pry, I simply use $ and ?
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<ebonics>
apeiros, like there's a method called log_call in this class
<ebonics>
and it's no where to be find inside that class
<ebonics>
so what's your process for finding where it is
<apeiros>
ebonics: check the ancestors
<ebonics>
there's like a huge hierarchy
<apeiros>
ebonics: why don't you generate the API docs?
<apeiros>
ebonics: that's uncommon
<ebonics>
that would probably help
<ebonics>
apeiros, not specifically for this class
<apeiros>
I've rarely ever seen more than 2 levels of inheritance (except rails, rails is crazy in that regard)
<ebonics>
but there are classes that have like 10+ super classes
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<apeiros>
ebonics: anyway, without api docs - fire up pry and introspect the class. $/? are a huge help.
<ebonics>
apeiros, it's pretty well documented actually
<ebonics>
i will generate them now
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<Ox0dea>
ebonics: Did you not try `Foo.method(:log_call).source_location`?
<ebonics>
Ox0dea, i could do that, but that would require me to run the application whenever i wnated to trace something
<ebonics>
which is bad
<Ox0dea>
It would nevertheless help you to better understand the structure of the project.
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<ebonics>
i hate global namespaces
<ebonics>
it's actually pretty cancerous
<ebonics>
lucky for me there's good docs
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<mordof>
i know of find, and find_all... but i'm not sure if either of those work in this scenario. I have an array of hashes, and inside about 8 keys in each hash. then I have another hash which contains say, 6 out of 8 of those keys. What's the best way to find a match between those keys that exist?
<mordof>
i can iterate over them inside the find if i have to, just wondering if there's a better way
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<jhass>
mordof: yeah, nest .all? inside .find
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<mordof>
does .all work on hashes?
<jhass>
sure, it's in Enumerable
<mordof>
ah. so it's just {}.all? {|k,v| }.. alright, thanks :)
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<apeiros>
mordof: you can gist your code. depending on what you do, there might be a more efficient way.
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<mordof>
i'm not sure which would be more efficient, but i think the first is easier to read anyway.
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<mordof>
oh .. the values_at essentially does the same amount of hash lookups also. wow that's a heavy operation, heh
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<jhass>
it has less transitions between ruby and c land
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<atmosx>
jhass: what are you working on?
<jhass>
nothing, built carc.in the last days
<mordof>
jhass, the way apeiros did it?
<jhass>
mordof: yeah
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<apeiros>
it also has less hash lookups
<apeiros>
but given your dataset, I doubt it'll matter anyway
<apeiros>
so go with what you find more readable
<mordof>
apeiros, given a large dataset, would the way you wrote it actually be faster?
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<mordof>
i suppose i'll have to benchmark it to find out
<apeiros>
I'm not quite sure how ruby does argument passes. but I could imagine that every iteration in all? { |k,v| will actually create an array.
<apeiros>
mordof: I'm convinced. but a good benchmark tells you the truth.
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<atmosx>
jhass: crystal as a new programming language?
<jhass>
as a=is a ?
<atmosx>
yes
<mordof>
apeiros, oh right - because it's doing [k,v] and passing that into the block?
<jhass>
then yeah
<atmosx>
never have to specify a type of variable and Have compile-time evaluation?
<jhass>
that are the goals, not quite achieved yet, but close ;)
<atmosx>
ah k, so you're one of the devs? and apeiros too?
<jhass>
uh? no
<apeiros>
I'm not, no
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<jhass>
well, I contributed a bit to its stdlib, yet have to touch parser/codegen/semantic phase
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<apeiros>
mordof: yes. but as said, I actually never bothered to figure how ruby does argument passing.
<apeiros>
could easily check using the new GC stats tools
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<mordof>
apeiros, *nods* noted. that's an interesting though. i haven't looked under the hood very much at all now that i think about it
<apeiros>
mordof: anyway, such things going on under the hood can easily turn something which theoretically *should* be faster into something which is in truth slower. hence always bench if performance matters.
<apeiros>
and if performance doesn't matter - don't prematurely optimize :) optimize for readability instead.
<mordof>
indeed :)
<balazs>
does anyone have experience with dashing where the widgets pull the data, and not the jobs push it ?
<apeiros>
or clarity
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<mordof>
apeiros, i like to think about it just in case, but usually until something actually becomes noticably slow i don't try and optimize
<mordof>
however i aim to learn how to do things with speed+readability to begin with.. if that makes sense
* mordof
shrugs
<apeiros>
sure
<apeiros>
makes sense. I do the same.
<apeiros>
if I know A will be faster than B and is similarly readable, of course I'll choose A. and in order to know that, I have had to do research first.
<ebonics>
i think if you need to worry too much about that stuff for your use case then youre using the wrong language
<ebonics>
:p
<apeiros>
ebonics: nah
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<ebonics>
im not saying thats true in cases where you just want to learn or improve yourself
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<ebonics>
but if youre constantly having to optimize your code because its too slow, even before you start writing any code.. then yeah you should consider another language
<ebonics>
ruby is pretty slow
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<apeiros>
ok. if that's what you're saying, then I agree.
<apeiros>
constantly having to optimize is indeed a symptom of "wrong tool for the task".
<apeiros>
(or for you needing a serious beef up in basic CS)
<mordof>
yeah - the other side of that is, for example, when i first started writing active record stuff
<mordof>
and i'd write queries that were readable, but just spammed the DB like mad, lol
<ebonics>
that's when you rm -rf and chalk it up as a learning experience :D
<mordof>
xD
<ebonics>
then rewrite it
<ebonics>
honestly its pretty bad when youre forced into a project where you know very little, and you keep getitng progressively better at the concept/language
<ebonics>
then you have to look back at the ass code you wrote
<mordof>
haha, yeah i always hate the looking back
<ebonics>
and probably rig it to work properly, compounding the problem
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<mordof>
i started learning ruby/rails when i began my job a year ago. i'd hate to go back to the first project i did
<mordof>
i know it was terrible :/
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<ebonics>
like idk, you see the ridiculous chaining and filtering you do with ruby... it's pretty intuitive to realise youre not being memory efficient :p
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<ebonics>
but it's fun and pretty rapid, thats why i like using it
<ebonics>
the only nitpick i have is it needs namespaces badly
<ebonics>
and maybe ease up on the attr_accessor boiler plate
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<mordof>
aren't modules there for namespaces?
<apeiros>
yes
<mordof>
they aren't quite the same thing i guess
<ebonics>
i mean as a legitimate language feature
<apeiros>
that's one of their purposes
<mordof>
alright
<ebonics>
that's not a true solution for namespaces
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<apeiros>
what would be a true solution?
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<Nedfo>
map and collect are the same?
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<apeiros>
Nedfo: usually
<Nedfo>
usually?
<apeiros>
Nedfo: anybody can implement any method with any name.
<ebonics>
like, i define a namespace at the top of my code and any modules that are defined there are inaccessible to other namespaces unless specified, not just by including the rb file
<mordof>
Nedfo, collect is an alias for map, yes (or the other way around, i forget)
<apeiros>
but core's Enumerable#map and #collect are aliases.
<ebonics>
atm it's too much like php or something pre psr
<apeiros>
ebonics: private_constant. though I don't see the need.
<apeiros>
ebonics: that's hand-holding developers. and I'm very grateful ruby doesn't do that.
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<ebonics>
that's hardly handholding, it's a good idiom
<apeiros>
e.g. it doesn't do it either with regards to private/protected. you can always send
<apeiros>
putting up "you shall not pass!" shields? yeah, that's hand-holding.
<ebonics>
that's hyperbole
<apeiros>
no
<apeiros>
if you think I should not use some of your code, document that.
<ebonics>
can you explain what you just said
<apeiros>
but don't force me off your code. that's just silly.
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<ebonics>
why?
<apeiros>
because I'm a grown up and will decide on my own what I want to use?
<apeiros>
and you're not my mom or dad to tell me what I can and can't use
<ebonics>
it requires you to know exactly how to use it, that would be the point of using a namespace
<ebonics>
if you want to use it you just include the namespace
<ebonics>
otherwise you use it passively
<apeiros>
you can tell me about the risks. as in "this is internal, don't go here". and I decide whether I take it.
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<ebonics>
yeah good luck reading through a whole codebase that isn't trivially small before you decide which classes you want to use
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<ebonics>
you're going to document every method that has side effects? "this method calls this method which calls this method which has this side effect"
<mordof>
I think the two of you are talking about different cases...
<mordof>
somewhat
<jhass>
mordof: I think both are bound to the same C function, so it's really two names for the same thing, hard to say one is an alias for the other (real) one
<mordof>
jhass, ah, true
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<apeiros>
ebonics: I don't see how that's related
<mordof>
ebonics, if you want it in a namespace, put it in a module. then it's ModuleName::ClassName unless you've included the module in your current class
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<ebonics>
apeiros, it's relevant in that you're forced to make the decision of putting your code in that namespace or not
<apeiros>
I don't follow
<ebonics>
otherwise you can have your little enclosed pod where nothing is redefined and you can be completely safe from side effects
<apeiros>
o0
<apeiros>
how does making stuff hidden change anything about side-effects?
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<apeiros>
that doesn't make sense
<ebonics>
that's the whole reason for namespaces
<ebonics>
you either have to put your code in it to use everything in it
<ebonics>
or you have to delegate to it
<ebonics>
with limited access
<ebonics>
brb need food
<apeiros>
maybe make an example. either I'm misunderstanding you, or you're really not making sense. atm I hope for the former :)
<ebonics>
okay, well. i think that it's a pointless discussion first of all ebcause as you said there's no real encapsulation in ruby
<apeiros>
i.e. start with how you'd do it in ruby without the namespaces, and then where/how you'd add namespaces and what that'd achieve
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<apeiros>
there is
<ebonics>
but the point would be you either include the namespace, where you can have only redefined methods apply directly to what you apply to it