<wolfspraul> FINALLY I got it - the power supply was faulty, and was destroying one disk after another!
<wpwrak> alas, i'm still getting errors. so it seems to be something else. i'm not even entirely sure it's hardware. i'm getting an error about every 30 seconds.
<wolfspraul> it took me a week and several thousand USD in destroyed disk drives until I had it narrowed down to that 20 USD power supply
<wolfspraul> could be my stupidity/slowness, or just totally thrown off by such a 'out of sight' component failing in a nasty way
<wolfspraul> anyway, fun with computers...
<rafa> wpwrak you are faster.. I just read your sms :)
<wolfspraul> hey I have really good news, a 'ping of life' for the Linux kernel support on Milkymist and Milkymist One - http://lists.milkymist.org/pipermail/devel-milkymist.org/2010-October/000979.html
<wpwrak> (power supply destroying disks) that's vicious ! :)
<wolfspraul> Takeshi is definitely maintaining this regularly, unfortunately his English is not very good so he cannot communicate his big picture thinking/direction/goals that well
<rafa> wolfspraul: nice and ugly RAID story.. .. raid just delay the death
<wolfspraul> but he is regularly up-levelling (2.6.36+ booting on Milkymist One now), and confirmed to me that he is committed to this for the long run. So it sounds good, and the log he posts there is great to see...
<wpwrak> (mm1 kernel) great !!!
<wolfspraul> rafa: RAID made it very expensive!
<wolfspraul> that was the most expensive power supply in my life
<rafa> yeah.. I can imagine :(
<wolfspraul> my lesson - if you operate a large disk array, make sure power is stable and power supply problems are out of the question. some controllers/disks are not very robust when there are subtle power problems.
<wpwrak> grmbl. the problems continue :-( ls ~ -> Input/output error
<wpwrak> let's see if it's some weird software problem i caught with a recent mega-update, and switching to the latest ubuntu kernel helps ...
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [uboot-xburst] cleanup the lcm init http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/3b8d551
<nitin_gupta> how to put aplication in startup i.e my application shall be launched soon afetr the booting operation gets completed
<nitin_gupta> xiangfu hwo can I launch my app on startup
<ahhfhaidhfi> My laptop is not charging, can someone help me?
<zear> ahhfhaidhfi, you mean your nanonote?
<ahhfhaidhfi> nanonote?
<zear> this is qi-hardware channel after all
<ahhfhaidhfi> oh
<ahhfhaidhfi> sry then
<zear> no prob, maybe we can help anyway :D
<ahhfhaidhfi> so.. help me :D
<zear> what sort of a laptop? What operating system? Does the battery any problems with the pins connecting to the slot?
<zear> *have any problems
<ahhfhaidhfi> win 7
<ahhfhaidhfi> i dont know what laptop, its a custom made i think
<ahhfhaidhfi> and no, it doesnt have connection problems
<zear> when you plug the charger, does the system start up, just the battery never charges?
<zear> or simply nothing happens?
<ahhfhaidhfi> no the system won'
<ahhfhaidhfi> t start up
<ahhfhaidhfi> even when its on AC
<zear> not even bios, nothing, right? No leds blinking, etc?
<ahhfhaidhfi> there is a orange light blinking
<ahhfhaidhfi> the battery light
<zear> what does the orange light usually indicatong?
<zear> *indicating
<ahhfhaidhfi> low battery?
<ahhfhaidhfi> also, the light on the AC adapter brick is blinking
<zear> does it blink only if you plug the AC, or every time you try to turn it on?
<ahhfhaidhfi> only if i plug the AC
<zear> ok, that would mean that it tries to charge the battery
<ahhfhaidhfi> I cant even turn it on cuz the battery is empty i think
<zear> and that the hardware is not dead
<zear> you should be able to turn it on if the AC is plugged even if the battery is missing
<ahhfhaidhfi> i know.. but it doesnt
<zear> did you drop it or damaged in any other way so let's say ram chips could fall out of the slots?
<ahhfhaidhfi> nope
<zear> do you have a warranty on it? Or you're able to open it up and look inside?
<ahhfhaidhfi> the warranty is over
<ahhfhaidhfi> so i can open it
<zear> hmm.. does it have any reset holes?
<ahhfhaidhfi> what's that?
<zear> maybe the power button is broken
<ahhfhaidhfi> no
<ahhfhaidhfi> i managed to turn it on for a few minutes
<zear> well, any way to reset the laptop without the need of pressing the power button
<ahhfhaidhfi> but then it ran out of power
<zear> ah, ok
<zear> ok, so you think that if you had a second, fully charged battery, it would start up?
<ahhfhaidhfi> sure
<zear> have you tried to remove the battery, plug the AC and try to start it up?
<ahhfhaidhfi> yes
<zear> maybe if the battery is present, the hardware checks for it's charge level and if it's low, it prohibits from turning it on
<ahhfhaidhfi> hmm maybe so
<ahhfhaidhfi> so what do i do?
<zear> well, i'm not an expert in this stuff, but i'd say you first need to try any possible configurations you are able to test
<zear> so remove the battery, plug AC in, and try to boot the laptop
<ahhfhaidhfi> damn it doesnt work.. the blue power light turns on for a second but then nothing happens
<ahhfhaidhfi> and the light on the brick is blinking.. i wonder what that means
<ahhfhaidhfi> hey, you still there?
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu:  fix the gpm94b0 init in zImage http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/d8efb94
<nitin_gupta> how to get the info regarding battery chargin g
<ahhfhaidhfi> you talking to me?
<nitin_gupta> whosoever can tell me that how to get battery charging status ?
<B_Lizzard> nitin_gupta, /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status
<nitin_gupta> and how much charged ?
<B_Lizzard> nitin_gupta, /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity
<nitin_gupta> ok
<B_Lizzard> Furthermore,
<nitin_gupta> does NN get fully charged i.e 100%
<nitin_gupta> i am constantly getting 84
<B_Lizzard> Perfect calibration is impossible, so no.
<B_Lizzard> I suspect some batteries might go over 100%
<B_Lizzard> Knockoffs etc
<B_Lizzard> As I was saying,
<nitin_gupta> but inmy case it is not going above 84 or 86
<nitin_gupta> also NN is connected to USB port but status is "Not charging"
<zear> ahhfhaidhfi, sorry, i was away.
<zear> if it doesn't want to turn on with the AC adapter even if the battery is removed, sometihng must be wrong either with your adapter, or the laptop itself
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan64Bits: Adding RFM22b Example. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/b0be121
<wolfspraul> kristoffer: you emailed to the list about the #1137 mark in Takeshi's Linux kernel log
<wolfspraul> what does it mean?
<kristoffer> wolfspraul, number of times he has recompiled the kernel
<kristoffer> never seen anything above 200
<wolfspraul> ah
<wolfspraul> persistant Japanese
<rafa> and few days since 2.6.36 is out :)
<wolfspraul> he is the only person in the world working on a Milkymist / Milkymist One Linux kernel
<wolfspraul> for about a year already
<wolfspraul> he is constantly upleveling
<wolfspraul> very nice work I think
<rafa> wolfspraul: is he working with Sebastian?.. I was thinking that sebastian is the only guy working there
<kristoffer> wolfspraul, for a second I thought I was the only one in sweden having a nanonote.. but Ornotermes stopped that
<kristoffer> Ornotermes, :P
<wolfspraul> rafa: no no. we have 6 Milkymist One boards, and there are 3-4 active people
<rafa> wolfspraul: ahh.. great
<rafa> wolfspraul: wow.. a lot of work made
<wolfspraul> yes
<wolfspraul> sure
<wolfspraul> :-)
<wolfspraul> the free CPU of the future
<qi-bot> [commit] Juan64Bits: Adding RFM22b Example. http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/d302857
<qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Change R16 to 1206 footprint, and support 300V. http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/0fed69d
<B_Lizzard> I'd like to add "quiet" to the kernel cmdline, I understand u-boot handles that.
<B_Lizzard> How do I change the cmdline?
<B_Lizzard> Do I need to access the u-boot command line>
<B_Lizzard> ?
<B_Lizzard> Hmmm, 2.6.36 doesn't set up the usb0 virtual network adaptor
<B_Lizzard> Even though CONFIG_USB_ETH is set.
<kristoffer> Btw, Ive noticed that alot of you people are still using "a" in your sentences. Please be reminded that they are not patented by me. I can recommend moving over to "A" or "â". Licenses for the proper "a" can of course be purchased by individuals or larger projects.
<rafa> kristoffer: thAt is good to know sir, thAnks AgAin
<rafa> kristoffer: aaaaaaaaaaahh.. I just purchaaaaaaased
<kristoffer> Im afraid that you have filled your quota for this year, do you wish to do another purchase?
<rafa> is "e" expensier?
<B_Lizzard> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<qbject> rafa: my organization owns exclusive rights to "e". As the most-common letter in many Western languages we find that enforcement of peacemeal licences is a waste of everyone's time. Instead we offer scaled site-licenses starting at US$98,000. I'm sure you'll agree that this is a more economical option for you.
<kristoffer> qbject, Ill trade you licenses for "qi-h(a)rdw(a)re" of I get one for "jlim(e)" and we can share the trial money for bringing rafa to justice.
<qbject> kristoffer: Done. Fire up the orbital piracy obliterator.
<rafa> qbject: ;-))
<qbject> rafa: =D
<heberth> hola a todos!! una pregunta; donde esta el link de la pagina de la siguiente vercion del nanonote?
<viric> Xue?
<viric> no, eso es una cámara.
<viric> heberth: no sé de ninguna versión siguiente
<heberth> viric:  pero por ahy escuche que la segunda vercion del nanonote tendra soporte de usb
<heberth> yo creo aber escuchado que estaban en planes de la segunda vercion..
<heberth> viric:
<viric> ni idea
<viric> de dónde eres?
<heberth> de colombia
<heberth> soy vecino de kristianpaul
<viric> ah
<heberth> viric:  y tu?
<viric> yo catalán
<heberth> :O
<rafa> viric: heberth : hola, somos varios hablando espaniol.. deberiamos cambiar el idioma de este canal! :D
<heberth> o crear uno nuevo  #qi-hardware-es
<heberth> rafa: de donde es?
<rafa> de argentina
<rafa> soy vecino de kristianpaul aca en el chat ;)
<heberth> jejeje.. oy vivo a 15 minutos de la casa de el. en carro jeje
<rafa> ;)
<qbject> Anyone know if there is a way to manually sleep the Ben's screen, the way it does when it's been idle for a bit?
<mth> echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/jz4740-fb/graphics/fb0/blank
<mth> qbject: that's how you can force screen blanking
<qbject> mth does that turn off the backlight?
<mth> it should
<qbject> sweet.
<qbject> Now I just have to figure out how to bind that to F8.
<mth> it will even shut down the LCD controller
<mth> the JZ4740's LCD controller, that is
<qbject> mth well, it works, but the screen pops right back on again without user input.
<mth> I have no idea why that would happen, but maybe someone else does
<qbject> I'll ask the list.
<qbject> Thanks for the help.
<kristianpaul> ah hey
<rafa> now that we realized that more than 50% on this channel speak spanish.. we are going to change the official language here..
<rafa> Hola
<wolfspraul> rafa: spanish takeover?
<lisandropm> takeover! takeover! ;)
<rafa> ;)
<rafa> Es muy sencillo hablar espaniol :)
<rafa> wolfspraul: rafa methril werner kristianpaul lisandropm viric hebert methril_work  and who knows how many people more talk spanish here.. I am convinced .. we need to talk using spanish
<rafa> Hola
<rafa> :)
<methril> Hola
<rafa> jaja :D
<lisandropm> rafa: in the same spirith, almost all of us speak english....
<methril> why we need to talk spanish?
<rafa> methril: no idea.. just to force wolfspraul to learn spanish
<rafa> methril: is that enough?
<methril> hehehe
<methril> this could be nice
<methril> but iwould like to not be force to learn german
<rafa> lisandropm: ha!.. we are forced.. .. I feel the power on me
<methril> i started a course, and i desist
<rafa> methril: ooohh.. well, you will need to re start
<methril> or chinesse
<rafa> methril: yes, german would be hard for me.. english is hard for me .. so maybe german is harder
<kristianpaul> hola hola hola
<methril> rafa, for me german is harder
<kristianpaul> saludos
<kristianpaul> rafa: ando mirando el cliente para sox
<kristianpaul> pero nada
<methril> we need a bot that translate with google translator
<methril> to our preference language :)
<kristianpaul> mas facil aprendo sdl y se le hace una interfaz
<rafa> kristianpaul: ;-))
<rafa> methril: chinesse: I would like to learn.. China is a big country.. a lot of people.. maybe I should visit China some day as well.
<kristianpaul> no si se si wolfspraul aprendio algo de español en colombia pero creo que no...
<methril> in the computer world, is more natural speak english than spanish, we get so much words
<kristianpaul> chinese cool language and writing indeed :)
<rafa> kristianpaul: cuando estuvo en BA luego de colombia no me dijo ni hola!
<rafa> :)
<kristianpaul> jajaja
<kristianpaul> :(
<methril> jajaja
<rafa> kristianpaul: he knows chinesse, german, english.. maybe a bit of french? ... and we just ask him a bit of spanish :)
<kristianpaul> french?
<kristianpaul> why he did said that before ;)
<kristianpaul> didnt*
<kristianpaul> buen comienzo para aprender español
<methril> uff!! french is hard
<kristianpaul> intenta aprender frances ultimamente
<kristianpaul> methril: not at all if you speak spanish
<methril> the grammar is the most complicated i know (i could not said i know french)
<kristianpaul> just memorice some words and verbs
<methril> kristianpaul, brazilian portuguesse is easier
<kristianpaul> yup
<methril> i'm living in brazil, and i could speak with people ;)
<kristianpaul> i think, may be i'm wrong you think spanish as in french,
<kristianpaul> methril: your naitve langues is?
<methril> kristianpaul, spanish
<methril> kristianpaul, i'm from spain :)
<kristianpaul> methril: ah why we'are talking in ENGLUSH """
<methril> hehehehe
<methril> no se
<kristianpaul> ah bueno
<kristianpaul> ya somos mas :)
<kristianpaul> pregunta !
<kristianpaul> como interpreto sharism en esñaol
<methril> por eso rafa me puso entre los nicks de español
<methril> jejeje
<kristianpaul> español*
<kristianpaul> si yo estaba confundido
<kristianpaul> como respondio en ingles pues...
<methril> por el resto del canal :)
<kristianpaul> jeje
<kristianpaul> si..
<methril> yo traduciria sharism como comparticion o compartiendo
<kristianpaul> la lucha eternea del -es en freenode ;)
<methril> jejeje
<kristianpaul> pero bueno si tiene que ver con compartir
<kristianpaul> comparticion suena raro
<kristianpaul> pero tiene mas sentido
<methril> share + ism
<kristianpaul> almenos no es como decir share y ya
<methril> gentilicio de compartir o algo asi
<kristianpaul> ajap
<kristianpaul> no le gustan mucho los gentilicios
<kristianpaul> pero si
<methril> seguramente compartiendo suena mejor
<kristianpaul> es como por ese lado
<methril> jejeje
<kristianpaul> pero eso como decir "to share"
<kristianpaul> entoces se le cambia el sentido a la palabra
<methril> podemos traduzirlo como el arte de compartir
<methril> :)
<kristianpaul> suena mejor
<kristianpaul> methril: estas trabajando con el milkymist en brazil tambien?
<methril> no mucho, estoy siguiendo el desarrollo, con la intencion de usar milkymist
<kristianpaul> :)
<kristianpaul> ah usar el VJ?
<xdpirate> what's going on here, i thought brazillians spoke portuguese
<methril> kristianpaul, ahora mismo no tengo ninguna FPGA, y ando bastante liado en el trabajo, pero esta en mente
<kristianpaul> o el SoC?
<kristianpaul> claro
<methril> xdpirate, they do
<kristianpaul> bueno qemu ayuda mucha
<kristianpaul> mucho*
<kristianpaul> yo tengo FPGA pero no con ram
<kristianpaul> sirvr pero a medias.
<methril> si, vi q tenias un Xilinx
<kristianpaul> toca usar qemu para cosas como ulinux o rtems
<methril> seguramente este fin de semana le dedique un tiempo a rtems
<methril> pero no prometo nada (la vida familiar quita mucho tiempo) ;)
<kristianpaul> hijos?
<kristianpaul> ahh
<kristianpaul> bueno si hay que disfrutar la familia
<methril> xdpirate, i only live in brazil, but i'm not brazilian
<kristianpaul> :)
<methril> casi
<xdpirate> ahh, I see :)
<methril> xdpirate, do you speak portuguesse?
<kristianpaul> xdpirate: o español? ;)
<methril> hijastros
<xdpirate> nope
<kristianpaul> xdpirate: u from?
<xdpirate> norway
<kristianpaul> cool
<kristianpaul> more people from there here at irc?
<kristianpaul> pero si es cierto que la mayoria de personas en este canal entienden ingles rafa
<kristianpaul> puede ser algo incomodo ver otro idioma
<kristianpaul> asi cuando aparecen caracteres chinos en este canal una ves por mes...
<kristianpaul> :|
<rafa> methril: yo le dije a kristianpaul que sharism podria ser traducido como "libera tu mente" :D.. aunque sea un significado completamente distinto :D
<rafa> methril: igual no se me ocurrio' a mi.. estabamos buscando algo de sharism en internet y salio' eso :P
<rafa> o algo parecido
<kristianpaul> es que libera tu mente es algo generico y re-usado..
<kristianpaul> nose..
<methril> seria mejor comparte tu idea
<methril> :)
<rafa> kristianpaul: si .. obvio
<methril> rafa, kristianpaul aunque no me gustan las traducciones ;)
<rafa> methril: comparte tu idea suena bien
<qi-bot> [commit] Xiangfu Liu: [config.full_system] add gnuplot http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/9869df5
<kristianpaul> no claro que no bueno no para tdoas las palabras del ingles
<methril> por eso tenemos tantos anglicismos ultimamente ;) para intentar decir con pocas palabras lo q necesitarias frases enteras para decir
<methril> jejeje
<kristianpaul> cierto
<kristianpaul> noches !
<methril> noches
<kristianpaul> methril: por cierto gcc 4.5.1 y el ultimo biutils funcionan bien con el lm32 de milkymist :)
<kristianpaul> por fin migre :)
<methril> sip, yo tbm lo use
<kristianpaul> tiene que aprender muchoo de la cadena de compilacion de gnu :/
<kristianpaul> chao
<methril> no recomienda aprender demasiado de gcc/binutils/gdb es casi un infierno