<kyak> .FHH
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: ah, they look a little odd indeed
<wpwrak> hmm, one of my disks went offline. need to check what's up ...
<mstevens> exciting news!
<wolfspraul> wow werner is still not back, well let's hope his harddisk failure was not too bad...
<qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Update usb_jtag.lst http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/f9a1159
<qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:mmone-jtag-serial-cable http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/c3c13a6
<qi-bot> [commit] Yanjun Luo: Remove C2/C4/R3/R4, high speed works now. http://qi-hw.com/p/mmone-jtag-serial-cable/87b791d
<qi-bot> [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: Framebuffer notifier: Call notifier callbacks prior to blanking the screen http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/b50a70e
<qi-bot> [commit] Lars-Peter Clausen: POWER: jz4740-battery: Protect against concurrent battery readings http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/ace61dc
<kristianpaul> discover the qi hardware t-shirt
<kristianpaul> reads the social contract http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Social_contract
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: he, all sorts of attempts to write 'documents'
<wolfspraul> but somehow we can never finish them...
<kristianpaul> "sharism for expensive tools, scopes, spectrum analyzers, protocol analyzers, laser cutters, test chambers, x-ray machines. copyleft hardware company should be like hacklab. " i like
<kristianpaul> "access to EVBs, prototypes, unused parts. Loan stuff, ask it back, or after finish send to the next person. Be careful with stuff, keep everything in good shape. " good to know i'll keep in shape ;)
<kristianpaul> btw
<kristianpaul> can you mail  or publish your slides from cparty?
<kristianpaul> i'll give a small talk about copyleft hardware this friday
<wolfspraul> sure it's still not uploaded because I still think about the file format
<kristianpaul> i just want check yous slides in case i see soemthing usefull to take from
<wolfspraul> I made the presentation in scribus
<wolfspraul> can I just email you the pdf?
<kristianpaul> sure
<wolfspraul> unfortunately scribus doesn't have a container file format
<kristianpaul> win show 23
<kristianpaul> oops
<wolfspraul> so it's like 20 files or so
<wolfspraul> I didnt' know whether I should upload a tarball...
<kristianpaul> files?
<kristianpaul> why not a single pdf?
<wolfspraul> I can send you a single PDF
<wolfspraul> sure
<wolfspraul> but that's not (easily) editable
<kristianpaul> i just need text, can i copy text from it?
<kristianpaul> or wel i can install scribus
<kristianpaul> (just realizing this kind of sofware exists)
<wolfspraul> scribus is actually pretty good for presentations
<wolfspraul> I played with lyx once, that was very painful
<wolfspraul> inkscape - no - way too much focused on graphics
<wolfspraul> but scribus works, for me
<wolfspraul> let me email you the pdf first
<wolfspraul> if you need more I'll either email or upload it
<wolfspraul> it's 100% cc-by-sa or cc-by licensed, of course. do with it whatever you like.
<kristianpaul> thanks
<kristianpaul> sure i can give back what i'm working on (in spanish for now)
<wolfspraul> rafa: do you know what happened to Werner and his disks?
<kristianpaul> hmm
<kristianpaul> remenbers do backup more often
<wolfspraul> I haven't seen him offline like this in years, unless he was traveling from Buenos Aires to Taipei :-)
<kristianpaul> i wonder thats is that kind of situation when checking a disk ends in reinstalling sofware :/
<kristianpaul> hope no
<kristianpaul> no no scribus not for me, what that uglt interface..
<kristianpaul> scared
<kristianpaul> support alternative/recyling/non-commercial projects
<kristianpaul> what kidn of support?
<kristianpaul> or exampler for NC
<kristianpaul> ..
<wolfspraul> what? can't understand you :-)
<wolfspraul> are you still talking about scribus?
<kristianpaul> i was
<kristianpaul> latelly about the Social Conttract
<kristianpaul> nv words about scribus ;)
<wolfspraul> if you don't like something in that doc, just edit
<kristianpaul> weed a sustem to share hardware as books may be?
<kristianpaul> sure i will i just dint understand that line
<kristianpaul> s/sustem/system
<wolfspraul> I think these kinds of document will almost write themselves, after we have 2 prerequisites:
<wolfspraul> 1. products that are attractive to regular people (not just Linux hackers)
<wolfspraul> 2. a group of people that can independently make a living, or at least some extra income, from copyleft hardware
<wolfspraul> once we have those two writing a few docs to explain our rules, principles, beliefs, etc. will be a no-brainer
<wolfspraul> writing them now is very hard because many things are too hypothetical
<wolfspraul> so I rather do some practical work :-)
<rafa> wolfspraul: interesting.. I did not read about that werner disk problem.. no idea.. let me check with a sms ;)
<wolfspraul> yeah
<wolfspraul> send a 'pad on his shoulder' sms
<rafa> sent
<kristianpaul> rafa: any ideas to translate/interpretate the word Sharism to spanish
<kristianpaul> i'm not sure if caridad works very well..
<kristianpaul> cause is not just about that..
<kristianpaul> is not share, so not compartir
<kristianpaul> so the ism
<kristianpaul> compartimiento ? xD
<rafa> yeah.. hard..
<kristianpaul> :/
<rafa> kristianpaul: I think that David or Victor would find a proper word :) they often write/translate a lot of work using english and spanish at the same time
<kristianpaul> tuxbrain !!
<kristianpaul> ahh he is not her.
<kristianpaul> yeah i'll ask then tomorrow
<rafa> "Sharism is a concept initiated by Isaac Mao. It's presented as "Mind Revolution": The more you give, the more you get. The more you share, the more you are shared."
<kristianpaul> i can said the last in spanish
<kristianpaul> :)
<rafa> that is something at least ;)
<rafa> but I am not sure that Isaac Mao is the guy we want to read about sharism
<rafa> Libera tu mente :)
<kristianpaul> :D
<wolfspraul> wpwrak: still alive?
<wolfspraul> that sounded bad yesterday...
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: somwhat ... pc still has troubles.
<wolfspraul> hmm
<wolfspraul> lost any valuable data or setups?
<wpwrak> one of my disks started throwing errors. so i shut the box down and examined everything. replaced the power supply (that was pending already) and the disk.
<wolfspraul> ahh
<wolfspraul> I remember many years ago, I had a RAID array somewhere
<wolfspraul> and was literally working full-time on error after error
<wolfspraul> for about a week