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<oliv3r> goooood morning ya'll
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<gzamboni> good morning oliver
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<n01> wow ... a lot of comments for my patch O_O
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<Turl> 45$ for beaglebone black, now that's competition :P
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<Turl> oliv3r: some mk802 and other misc devices don't have any axps
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<slapin_nb> hipboi|cubie: ping
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<Turl> slapin_nb: he's likely sleeping by now
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<slapin_nb> ah, damn time difference everywhere
<Turl> slapin_nb: yeah, he's like 11h away from me, makes it hard to find him :)
<slapin_nb> Turl: I need to work with lots of people over the world, and everyone thinks my schedule is 9 to 5 like his in entirely his locality, damnit
<slapin_nb> Turl: this is really annoying that you can't put normal 8h sleep into the schedule :(
<Turl> yeah
<Turl> slapin_nb: luckily emails exist and are asynchronous :)
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<slapin_nb> Turl: yes, but I wanted to ping him about email :)
<slapin_nb> Turl: as for other guys they don't like emails, they use fb ans skype to do their corporate business
<Turl> fb.. for business?
<Turl> lol
<slapin_nb> Turl: and this is really annoying, too, as I need to register new fb account every time
<Turl> why so?
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<slapin_nb> Turl: because I don't want to give out my phone number to fb
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* Turl is confused
<bsdfox_> anyone remember who was working on the new i2c driver?
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<oliv3r> mripard_: If you could be so awesome to take a quick peek at my v2 'cry for help', that be grand. Do note that I answer some of my own questions in a reply :)
<oliv3r> Turl: they don't have _any_ PMU at all?
<oliv3r> Turl: only a simple DC to DC converter? for all their voltages?
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<oliv3r> Turl: while plausible, I find it hard to belive. Even an A10s stick, would require various voltages. ram, IO, CPU, flash periphals etc no?
<oliv3r> :p
<oliv3r> bsdfox_ http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainlining_Effort suggests mripard_ but no clue on its status or if anybody else is working on it
<oliv3r> quiet day today
<Turl> oliv3r: yeah, no PMU at all, just passive components
<Turl> oliv3r: that's partially why they overheated so much, you cannot scale voltages
<Turl> bsdfox_: mripard_ was working on i2c, check his github account
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<oliv3r> Turl: really bad design then :p
<oliv3r> Turl: I guess the wdt reset is really needed for those PMU less devices
<oliv3r> Turl: I guess dt would have to tell the kernel whether wdt_restart or pmu_restart is being used. Or do we want to just make wdt the default restart method?
<Turl> can you restart with axp?
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<mripard_> oliv3r: I'm currently in holiday, so I have a low bandwith on reviewing patches/answering mails, sorry
<mripard_> but that's on my todo list
<Turl> if you have a reset method that works for all, and one that doesn't, I think there's not much to consider :)
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<oliv3r> mripard_: happy hollidays! enjoy your vacation! Don't "hobby-work"! enjoy your time.
<oliv3r> i'm allready throwing some things around :p
<oliv3r> Turl: I guess x86 uses ACPI and a special ASM instruction otherwise to reboot? I guess if sunxi doesn't have that, the only way IS the wdt
<oliv3r> Turl: but if that is the reboot situation, how do you handle the poweroff situation on said devices? (Though you don't turn those devices off that often).
<Turl> actual poweroff should be done through axp
<oliv3r> Turl: btw, i'm not questioning you or anybody. Just curious and picking brains :)
<oliv3r> Turl: so what if you don't have an AXP :p
<oliv3r> or PMU*
<Turl> oliv3r: can you shut those down? I would not expect so
<oliv3r> i think you cannot 'poweroff' through the CPU. x86 uses ACPI now (APM before) which I'm sure controls some powermanagement IC (bios back then?)
<Turl> you could busyloop forever, or shut down all interrupts and run wfi
<oliv3r> Turl: well that would drain your battery
<Turl> devices without axp don't have batteries :)
<oliv3r> Turl: so I guess we can say, PMU less devices are all HDMI sticks
<Turl> yeah, but not all hdmi sticks are PMU-less
<oliv3r> Turl: ok one more brain fart. Why not force execution of 0xBROM to force a reset?
<oliv3r> Turl: i guess they figured out that wasn't very smart ;)
<Turl> oliv3r: maybe it's been overwritten? no idea tbh
<Turl> ram is initialized, MMU working, etc, not sure if BROM would like it either
<oliv3r> Turl: i'll dig into it for fun :p
<oliv3r> to bed now though
<Turl> good night :)
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