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<slackwareer> Have you guys compiled xbmc on arch linux?
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<foubarre> !ls
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<foubarre> Hello everyone. Any idea if/when cad files for the A10 board would be online?
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<shineworld> I'm trying to connect a penmount capacitive touchscreen (PenMount-1201) and seem in penmount.c that there is already a kernel module.
<shineworld> The module search for a /../input0
<shineworld> what is input0 and where is connected on cubieboard ?
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<foubarre> Hello. Anyone succeded in running debian wheezy ?
<FourthDr> not me
<foubarre> FourthDr: do you mean that you tried and failed?
<FourthDr> using linaro
<FourthDr> as I understand it, you should be able to run debian for raspberry pi without any problems
<FourthDr> but have not tried it
<foubarre> oh. that would be nice.
<FourthDr> just image an sd card and try it
<FourthDr> can't hirt anything
<jelly-home> except performance
<FourthDr> now loading to nand is something different
<FourthDr> not sure how you would do that
<foubarre> i have a pi with a complete install and software. That would be nice if i could take the sd from the pi and plug it in the cubie. and if it worked out of the box, that would be even nicer.
<FourthDr> try it and report back ;-)
<FourthDr> I haven't touched my cubie for a few weeks...been busy learning python
<FourthDr> need to get vnc working on the cubie before I can do more with it....no room for an extra monitor
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<jelly-home> FourthDr: I got a hdmi switch to solve that problem
<jelly-home> (my monitor only has one digital input)
<jelly-home> also, a usb switch to keep using the same keyboard
<FourthDr> I don't have anything with hdmi and the composite sucks...the res on composite is terrible! wished they had put regular hdmi on the RPi
<jelly-home> FourthDr: you don't have a monitor with DVI-D?
<FourthDr> I mean regular vga :-D
<jelly-home> oh, I didn't do vga on cubie
<FourthDr> ya, but it's a pain to use and hdmi cable + the dvi converter since all my other stuff is vga
<FourthDr> vga on raspberry pi
<jelly-home> it doesn't have hdmi?
<FourthDr> cubie has vga, but you need a small circuit board + parts and vga connector
<FourthDr> RPi has hdmi just not vga
<FourthDr> I prefer vga
<jelly-home> so there's hdmi on both rpi and cubie
<FourthDr> works with my switch box, hdmi doesn't
<FourthDr> yup
<jelly-home> that's where a hdmi switch comes in
<FourthDr> hdmi switch only works if all you out puts are hdmi
<jelly-home> of course
<FourthDr> mine are all vga at the moment
<jelly-home> sucks to be analog
<FourthDr> not cost affective to switch
<FourthDr> well, hdmi is drm'd
<FourthDr> the vga is not
<jelly-home> that's crap
<jelly-home> there's no drm involved in getting video from a pc or a dev board to a dvi-d monitor
<FourthDr> only nice thing about hdmi is it combinds video/audio/ethernet/power all on one cable
<FourthDr> plus remote control on some systems
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<foubarre> FourthDr: should 3D acceleration work too if we use a pi linux?
<foubarre> FourthDr: i'm a bit newbie when it comes to arm. Not sure about backward compatibility, how things should run on armV7 vs armV6...
<rm> you can't directly use a Raspberry Pi SD card in a CB
<rm> they use different bootloaders
<rm> there is a number of Debian Wheezy bootable images: http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images
<rm> specifically for the A10 (in Cubieboard)
<lunra> basically the 'BIOS' is stored on the SD card, not in ROM (there's a bootloader in ROM too, but all it does it load another bootloader from the SD)
<rm> I do not see any value in shoehorning a word "BIOS" here
<lunra> yeah, u-boot doesn't really expose any IO functions
<rm> u-boot really does not have much in common with x86 BIOS
<lunra> Sorry, I thought it would assist in the explaination
<rm> also people would expect some sort of setup menu like on x86
<foubarre> rm: thanks for the information
<lunra> And no, you won't get 3D accel from using a Pi linux distro
<lunra> because it's different video hardware.
<lunra> It's like trying to use an ATI driver with a nVidia card :)
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<BigWhoop[DE]> its like try AMD card on linux OS :D
<BigWhoop[DE]> ATI is dead...long time now
<foubarre> lunra: thanks. I was hoping it would be somewhat compatible..
<foubarre> lunra: but do the images RM submitted have 3D acceleration?
<BigWhoop[DE]> the most not imho
<BigWhoop[DE]> you have to build the binary drivers for it
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<BigWhoop[DE]> but its easy: http://linux-sunxi.org/Binary_drivers
<BigWhoop[DE]> i have made a working rootfs with 3D drivers included
<BigWhoop[DE]> but for linaro
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<foubarre> BigWhoop[DE]: ok. looks feasible. Are those pages related to linaro or debian? Or agnostic?
<foubarre> can't wait to get a board
<BigWhoop[DE]> linux OS :D
<BigWhoop[DE]> because you compile the driver for your OS
<foubarre> BigWhoop[DE]: hehe. So can i really say "agnostic"? ;)
<cube_x> it is normal for me not to recognize the internal memory from the berryboot?
<foubarre> BigWhoop[DE]: thanks, this really helps me in going forward, accumulating docs and knowledge before getting the board
<BigWhoop[DE]> berryboot only installs on SD-cards
<cube_x> I mean install in internal memory using the berryboot through microsd
<cube_x> how to install linux in internal memory
<cube_x> ?
<BigWhoop[DE]> you need a working linux os on your SD Card
<BigWhoop[DE]> and then follow this tutorial: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND
<BigWhoop[DE]> but with your allready owned OS and not with the debian from this tut
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<foubarre> BigWhoop[DE]: is there a chance that the java8sdk for the pi work within a debian on cubie? Oracle released a version for the pi, not sure it is that limited to it.
<rm> yes, might work
<BigWhoop[DE]> maybe. just try
<foubarre> hehe. would love to. Just need a board.
<foubarre> got to get one from Germany.
<foubarre> today
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<BigWhoop[DE]> nice and sweet country :D
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<foubarre> BigWhoop[DE]: hehe. Sure. Came to Munchen years ago. Nice trip..
<BigWhoop[DE]> i was there last week
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<bigx> hi there
<bigx> i'm trying to get my install on the nand
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<bigx> but I already had a headless debian on the nand
<bigx> and when i use the PIMP_MY_MELE script to copy the fs on the nand, it tells me that there's no space left on the nand
<bigx> what's the safe way to format/erase data on the nand?
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<user_2> hipboi|cubie, are you in?
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<bigx> i'm planning to use the cubieboard for an interactive webdocumentary
<bigx> where the user will be able to interact with the gpios
<bigx> and these interactions will be reflected on the html page
<bigx> i'm planning to use node.js + websockets on the server side
<bigx> all of that would be easy for me
<user_2> bigx, nice project: do ypu plan to track your activities and create an "how to" for other people?
<bigx> but i need to be able to configure the board (os on nand, activate gpio, etc...)
<bigx> user_2, sure i'll do
<user_2> ggod, report it somewhere in the Web and notice us :)
<bigx> if i can go trough the first steps (the os stuff) which are the hard ones for me
<bigx> i'll would like to also release the node.js lib to interact with gpio
<bigx> user_2 do you know how to erase the os on nand?
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<user_2> bigx, never did, but i suppose the usual procedure: user "dd" to overvriete all, and "cfdisk" to rereate a partition table.
<user_2> at least "cfdisk" is enogh, it can delete partition.
<BigWhoop[DE]> you dont need to erase it.
<BigWhoop[DE]> just write it over :)
<BigWhoop[DE]> the easiest way is to make an working linux OS on the SD-Card and then write it to the NAND.
<BigWhoop[DE]> this worked for my costum debian system: http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND
<BigWhoop[DE]> i dont use the debian image described in the link above
<BigWhoop[DE]> just start with the flash process
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<bigx> thx BigWhoop[DE] i'll be able to install a desktop env then? i tried to install lxde on that image and failed
<BigWhoop[DE]> depends on your OS
<bigx> if i start with the link you gave me
<BigWhoop[DE]> dont know the debian system from the link
<BigWhoop[DE]> used my own
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<Bushmills> there's also debootstrap
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<Bushmills> especially for minimal systems quite suited
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<bigx> i'm a big noob when it comes to make its own system
<bigx> i just need a classic debian with desktop, hdmi + sound, and gpios
<bigx> once i got that, i'll be ok, but for now i'm lost!
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<bigx> so i tried http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND with my image, I copied the system on the nand, and can ssh in hte cubie
<bigx> but I cannot connect the cuibe to and hdmi screen
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<bigx> how do i configure it?
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<BigWhoop[DE]> you have a wrong debian system with headless kernel imho
<BigWhoop[DE]> the hdmi connection works from default with the right OS.
<bigx> ok, then which image do you recommend?
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<BigWhoop[DE]> you can try my linaro system with build in mali drivers
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<lunra> Has anyone got http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/Installing_on_NAND to work with ALARM? I got it to boot via serial console but dbus dies strangely causing systemd to fail to progress. Can't debug because I can't get a shell.
<lunra> getty seems to also die
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<lunra> ugh, nevernmind, it doesn't fsck properly
<lunra> i'll start over :)
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<jelly-home> lunra: what's "ALARM"
<c0w_mau_cew> hello
<c0w_mau_cew> how the seller?
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<lunra> jelly-home: ALARM is Arch Linux on ARM
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<Bushmills> what i/o speeds do you roughly get with a reasonably fast SATA drive on cubieboard?
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<jelly-home> Bushmills: 100MB/s single thread, sequential, largish io
<Bushmills> that's rather good. more than i hoped for, actually.
<jelly-home> with a reasonably mediocre SSD that can do 200-220 read in a PC
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<jelly-home> it was unstable with 3Gbps link tho, after they renegoitated down to 1.5Gbps things went smoothly
<lunra> yay, after a paranoid load of 'sync' commands, I got my cubieboard to boot Arch from NAND
<lunra> First 3 times I got corruption
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<rm> Bushmills, tested yesterday on a Mele A2000, 92 MB/sec read
<rm> (raw, from block device)
<rm> 38 MB/sec write (to a file on ext4 filesystem)
<Bushmills> more than a 100 mbit ethernet link can deliver.
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<Yaku-noob> are there any cheap good 5ghz wifi dongles ?
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<Undertasker> Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two.
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<rm> I ordered a couple from Aliexpress for about $17-18 each
<rm> different ones
<rm> Atheros and Realtek I think
<rm> the realtek one has terrible reviews
<rm> will see how it goes :)
<rm> oh and none arrived yet
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<Undertasker> Most 5GHz dongles seem to be unsupported by linux.
<Undertasker> I won't order from Aliexpress again. The first thing I ordered never arrived, and the second one was crap.
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<jelly-home> with shops like these, you have to carefully weigh the prices and reviews of the 20 almost-identical articles, try to figure which ones are crap reading between the lines; at least the "never arrived" can easily be contested with a proper tracking number
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<Yaku-noob> currently i am still waiting for an arduino with ethernetshield that haven´t been updated on the trackingpages i use for a month :(
<whitespacebar> hi guys, anyone have problem to clone image from git?
<whitespacebar> i got RPC failed result=56; HTTP code = 200
<whitespacebar> anybody ever experience this issue?
<whitespacebar> it happens when i do this: git clone https://github.com/matson-hall/allwinner-buildroot.git -b cubieboard
<whitespacebar> any takers?
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<bigx> and video playback suck
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<BigWhoop> bigx you have to install CedarX
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