12:17 <flip214> whitequark: got another "NaN Ref". email pending.

12:20 <whitequark> the console output can be ignored, it's almost certainly unrelated to your errors

12:40 <flip214> Is there a way to reorder the layers yet?

12:43 <whitequark> nope, and it's unlikely there will be a way any time soon

12:44 <whitequark> (personally, i think that an ability to reorder groups is at best a workaround even if it existed, and there are likely better solutions through UI or workflow improvements that reduce the need to do so in first place)

12:47 <flip214> well, creating a solid and cutting it via another solid and difference, but then seeing that something else should have been cut too (but via another workspace) ain't possible now

12:47 <whitequark> yes, i understand

12:48 <whitequark> i don't mean that i'm fundamentally opposed to a reorder feature. i just think that the actual experience would be sub-par because a lot of things would just get deleted

12:48 <whitequark> at the moment the focus of my work on solvespace (which is unfortunately sparse) is on fixing systems/portability issues and on getting 3.0 out

12:49 <flip214> and making a circle => cylinder with some length and another with same base point, I can't make the top circle centers ident - the length constraint becomes unsatisfied, although I can move the inner's center up and down

12:51 <flip214> reordering between unrelated thing should be possible... even more so as having not the top-most workspace active and creating a new one mixes that one inbetween (unexpectedly)

12:53 <whitequark> that last thing might be something we want to revert

12:53 <whitequark> I haven't anticipated just how many problems it would create

12:54 <flip214> well, if you know that this will happen it's okay...

12:54 <whitequark> mhm

12:55 <flip214> although any further operations (like extrusion) get appended again, and so that won't work for differences etc.

12:55 <flip214> or just make the layers re-sortable ;)

12:55 <whitequark> technically speaking, doing this change is a simple matter of adding UI for manipulation of groupOrder

12:56 <whitequark> if I remember that code correctly

12:56 <flip214> I now have 4 layers: 2 for circles, 2 for extrusions, to get a hollow cylinder. Can I replicate this solid without replicating all other layers' solids?

12:56 <whitequark> can you file the slvs file with the nan REF as an issue so it doesn't get lost?

12:57 <flip214> I guess I need to have these in a separate document and import the whole as assembly

12:57 <whitequark> or so that other maintainers can look at it

12:57 <whitequark> yes, I think more robust assembly support would obviate a lot of the group ordering issues

12:57 <flip214> whitequark: well, TBH I wouldn't like my drawings floating around the internets.

12:58 <whitequark> i don't really like the position of providing personal unpaid support for this kind of issue, plus there's the simple fact that i don't have that much time lately

12:59 <whitequark> i'll take a quick look in case there's an obvious cause

13:02 <flip214> well, I'd think it might help to iron out bugs that you might see commercially too

13:02 <flip214> thanks!

13:02 <flip214> and being able to change numbers directly via clicking and entering (eg point coordinates) would be good as well

13:03 <whitequark> my work is almost entirely volunteer (in fact I spent much more of my personal cash improving SolveSpace than I got from license fees)

13:08 <whitequark> ... hm

13:10 <whitequark> well, i found an unrelated bug

13:13 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JJEHQ

13:13 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark 56e2592 - Make "Toggle Reference" remember undo state.

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13:39 <whitequark> flip214: ha, i see umlauts, looks like my unicode work paid off :)

13:48 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace] Error. The Travis CI build could not complete due to an error - https://travis-ci.org/github/solvespace/solvespace/builds/712552170?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification

14:10 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JJEFM

14:10 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark bbf402b - Fix "Sketch → In Workplane" not updating the UI immediately.

14:25 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace] Success. AppVeyor build succeeded - https://ci.appveyor.com/project/whitequark/solvespace/builds/34345752

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14:57 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/JJExt

14:57 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace/solvespace] whitequark d8b76ef - Drop backtrace generation.

15:11 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace] Failure. The Travis CI build failed - https://travis-ci.org/github/solvespace/solvespace/builds/712598121?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification

15:12 <_whitenotifier-b> [solvespace] Success. AppVeyor build succeeded - https://ci.appveyor.com/project/whitequark/solvespace/builds/34346709