06:39 <GitHub> [solvespace] Symbian9 commented on issue #263: Did imgui work with GPU limited to OpenGL1.x?... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315283366

09:43 <GitHub> [solvespace] ss0git opened issue #264: UX improvement - Switch from using "Two finger click and drag" + Shift on trackpad to Orbit around. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/264

10:07 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: dear imgui outputs vertex buffers, which are not in OpenGL 1. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315323274

10:08 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark closed issue #264: UX improvement - Switch to using Shift + "Two finger drag" (no click) on trackpads to Orbit around. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/264

12:22 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: >What specifically do you need dear imgui for? Are you looking to implement a particular feature?... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315346500

12:23 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: >What specifically do you need dear imgui for? Are you looking to implement a particular feature?... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315346500

12:28 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: > And that's not going to work with well with native widgets.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315347565

12:38 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: As I understand it, your HTML inputs would essentially be running in a different process, so what you're actually talking about is implementing a whole new UI in html/JS, and including some kind of IPC mechanism? Am I understanding that correctly? https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315349301

12:40 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: As I understand it, your HTML inputs would essentially be running in a different process, so what you're actually talking about is implementing a whole new UI in html/JS, and including some kind of IPC mechanism (Presumably whatever emscripten uses by default)? Am I understanding that correctly? https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315349301

12:45 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: Not at all. Take a look at a WIP branch that abstracts the details of the exact platform. There's a [tiny API](https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/blob/platform/src/platform/gui.h) that needs to be implemented to add support for another window system. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315350610

13:27 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: So your plan is to first write a generic cross-platform UI toolkit that outputs UI elements native to each platform? Even presuming that you're only targeting a small subset of functionality, that's still a pretty complicated thing. Easy enough when you're only targeting menus and menu bars, but more complicated when you start talking about things like tree editors.... https://github.com/solvespa

14:26 <GitHub> [solvespace] ss0git commented on issue #68: Since my issue was closed I'll copy my suggestion here. It is more specific than what is proposed in this support ticket.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/68#issuecomment-315373252

14:55 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: > So your plan is to first write a generic cross-platform UI toolkit that outputs UI elements native to each platform? Even presuming that you're only targeting a small subset of functionality, that's still a pretty complicated thing. Easy enough when you're only targeting menus and menu bars, but more complicated when you start talking about things like tree editors.... https://github.com/solves

14:57 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: To add to the above, something I would be quite glad to get rid of is the platform *scroll bar*. It's a nightmare to interface with and it blocks #39, and #39 blocks Emscripten integration because Emscripten can only create exactly one WebGL context. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315381212

15:10 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #68: I would actually prefer use 2-finger "pinch" gesture for zoom, 3-finger "pan" gesture for translation, and 1-finger double-click plus drag gesture for rotation. Objections? https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/68#issuecomment-315384627

15:11 <balrog> whitequark: > 1-finger double-click plus drag gesture for rotation

15:11 <balrog> what about rotate?

15:11 <whitequark> about what

15:12 <whitequark> I don't understand the question

15:12 <balrog> this is on an apple trackpad, right?

15:12 <balrog> whitequark: trackpad gestures

15:13 <whitequark> sure

15:15 <whitequark> oh, actual dragging

15:15 <whitequark> *thinks*

15:15 <whitequark> good q

15:15 <balrog> whitequark: oh I meant the rotate gesture, see preview and photoshop

15:21 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Well then find myself pretty confused.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315387307

15:22 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Well then find myself pretty confused.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315387307

15:38 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: > To me, it's pretty strange that one wouldn't jump at the chance to push some maintenance/documentation costs off to a third party, so I assumed you were trying to do something different.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315391692

15:40 <whitequark> balrog: oh

15:40 <whitequark> hmm

15:40 <whitequark> I don't know which one that is

15:50 <balrog> Rotate two fingers

15:50 <balrog> Try it in preview

15:51 <whitequark> ugh so much work to bring everything

15:51 <whitequark> up

16:30 <balrog> :/

16:30 <balrog> whitequark: it's on https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204895

16:39 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Wall of text coming, and I'm not describing it well, so for that I apologize.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315406654

16:42 <balrog> whitequark: adding SDL2 to cmake is pretty straightforward — they have a script

16:42 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Wall of text coming, and I'm not describing it well, so for that I apologize.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315406654

16:42 <balrog> how are we doing platform abstraction for graphics right now?

16:42 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Wall of text coming, and I'm not describing it well, so for that I apologize.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315406654

16:42 <balrog> btw MAME uses bgfx and imgui

16:47 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Wall of text coming, and I'm not describing it well, so for that I apologize.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315406654

16:57 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: > The question is less "why should I switch to dear-imgui" and more "why should contributors switch to my custom UI".... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315410772

17:18 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: Well, all that was answering a very specific question... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315415494

17:20 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: Well sure, like I already mentioned the homegrown UI breaks down almost completely for #39 (I actually tried to implement #39 already and failed), so some sort of new solution is needed. dear imgui might just be it, let me glance at its API I guess. https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315416079

19:21 <GitHub> [solvespace] eric-schleicher commented on issue #263: This thread is immensely interesting to me. to help educate me. is the idea here that an external immediate mode UI system brings more widgets with better supports. ... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315445685

19:22 <GitHub> [solvespace] eric-schleicher commented on issue #263: This thread is immensely interesting to me. to help educate me. is the idea here simple that an external immediate mode UI system brings more widgets with better supports? ... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315445685

19:33 <GitHub> [solvespace] whitequark commented on issue #263: > is the idea here simple that an external immediate mode UI system brings more widgets with better supports?... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315448128

19:40 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: There would need to be some significant work done (in c++) to get this running under webVR.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315449413

19:41 <GitHub> [solvespace] traverseda commented on issue #263: There would need to be some significant work done (in c++) to get this running under webVR.... https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/263#issuecomment-315449413