07:05 <JonTheNiceGuy> MatheusRV: the app committee was used during the crowd funding campaign and the early alpha, when they moved to beta, it's now just a wishlist.

07:07 <JonTheNiceGuy> MatheusRV: also, remember that the project just moved from being a start-up to being an open source project, and no one from the project is being paid (by the project) to work on Sandstorm any more. As a result, they're all out getting new jobs, so I'd expect responses to questions in here to be a bit slower at the moment...

16:37 <abliss> Hi all. I'm thinking about hacking on email notifications. Any recent news in that area?

17:03 <mrdomino> hi folks

17:04 <mrdomino> kentonv: do you have some time to talk about the background API?

17:43 <mohmaya> hello!

17:43 <mohmaya> am a newbie installing Sandstorm on a Ubuntu 16.04 release (linode). I had a quick question / suggestion about one of the help docs..

17:43 <mohmaya> is this channel the right place for this topic?

17:43 <TimMc> yep

17:44 <mohmaya> Ok. Cool. I wanted to re-install Sandstorm, so I ran sandstorm -uninstall as the docs suggested

17:45 <mohmaya> However, because I hadn't removed the /opt/sandstorm directory, the new installation still failed with the same error message even though I ran sandstom -uninstall.

17:46 <mohmaya> So I removed the directory & the installation worked

17:47 <mohmaya> so, my suggestion is, it may be helpful to add a line that says, "remove the /opt/sandstorm directory before running the installation again"

17:48 <mohmaya> my question is: the sandstorm install was successful; but when I try to load the config url (with the token), I'm getting a timeout

17:48 <mohmaya> I haven't linked a domain name yet, so the url is just an IP address

17:48 <mohmaya> what am I doing wrong?

17:48 <mohmaya> I have ssh access to the server, so the server is up

17:49 <mohmaya> the sandstorm server is running as well

17:51 <mohmaya> I can post the logs if that helps... please let me know :)

17:52 <mohmaya> there are no error messages in the log though

17:54 <TimMc> mohmaya: On the -uninstall issue, might be worth filing a little issue on Github, or sending a PR if you're OK with that.

17:54 <mohmaya> sure. What's a PR?

17:54 <TimMc> Pull Request, it's Github's terminology for a request to apply a patch.

17:55 <TimMc> mohmaya: I would guess a port mismatch is the issue with the new server -- some mismatch between the URL you're using, the configured ports, and any port-forwarding you're using.

17:55 <mohmaya> ah. I can try; or I'll file an issue on github.

17:56 <mohmaya> Its a stock Linode Ubuntu image though. I haven't set up any port-forwarding

18:02 <TimMc> What's your config look like? Can you pastebin it?

18:07 <mohmaya> sure. Where is the config file?

18:07 <mohmaya> also, just submitted a PR for the change in the installation docs.

18:16 <TimMc> mohmaya: It's in /opt/sandstorm, IIRC. The default HTTP port is 6080. If you haven't changed it, and you're not using port 6080 in your URL, that would explain the timeout.

18:19 <mohmaya> @TimMc, got it. The URL that came up in the console didn't have the port number in it. Trying now, with a new token. So the url should read http://myip:6080/setup/token/xxxxxxx ?

18:20 <TimMc> yep!

18:20 <mohmaya> it worked. Awesome!

18:20 <TimMc> \o/

18:21 <mohmaya> perhaps this should also be included in the instructions? or the port number should be included in the admin token url?

18:21 <mohmaya> thanks @TimMc! :)

18:23 <TimMc> I think this probably has to do with you not having set up your BASE_URL in the config.

18:23 <mohmaya> I tried. But I had the same issue

18:23 <TimMc> I don't know what BASE_URL defaults to, but I suppose it should match the default HTTP_PORT

18:24 <mohmaya> the base url didn't have the port number either; which is why I wanted to un-install & reinstall sandstorm and ran into the directory issue..

18:24 <mohmaya> so I just wanted to test it with the IP addres

18:27 <mohmaya> but I can try it with the URL mapped. I'll let you know how that works in a few mins.

18:28 <TimMc> (err... s/HTTP_PORT/PORT/)

18:29 <mohmaya> ok. So it appears to have worked now, but I specified the port when I was entering the domain address.. (mydomain.com:6080). So, the admin token included the port number as well

19:06 <mrdomino> seen cozy.io anyone?

20:27 <kentonv> mrdomino, I should be able to draw up a background API proposal today

20:27 <mrdomino> awesome!

20:51 <abliss> kentonv: building ekam just to build sandstorm is a bit of a pain... is there any chance ekam could do its magic analysis and then spit out a Makefile which could be included in release tarballs?

20:51 <kentonv> abliss, that's a thing that I would like to do given infinite time, but seems unlikely ever to reach the front of the priority queue...

20:52 <abliss> yeah, i hear you

20:53 <abliss> it's okay, i'm only 90 minutes in and I think I *almost* have it building

20:53 <abliss> (ekam, that is)

20:54 <kentonv> Hmm, what is making it so hard?

20:55 <abliss> custom toolchain location, rpaths, opinionated corporate build system

20:55 <kentonv> you're trying to adapt ekam/sandstorm into some non-standard build system? Why?

20:56 <abliss> sadly it's the easiest way to get a modern version of gcc. can't run VMs.

20:58 <kentonv> note that Sandstorm really wants to build with Clang...

20:58 <abliss> yeah, i've got clang3.9 already

20:58 <abliss> otherwise i would've just given up

21:14 <abliss> "error: couldn't find capnpc-c++." ... is it supposed to end up on my PATH somehow?

21:16 <mrdomino> abliss: why no VMs?

21:17 <mrdomino> like you can't even spin up a DO droplet or something?

21:17 <abliss> not for me to say, really

21:17 <mrdomino> fair enough

21:27 <abliss> oh, does ekam just totally ignore CXXFLAGS, LDFLAGS, etc?

21:37 <guest3456> btce highest price ;)

22:07 <abliss> oh, lol. hours wasted because of extra whitespace, it seems