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<DanC_> so... when we left our hero, we had a hello-world sandstorm nodejs app built with nix. https://github.com/dckc/madmode-blog/issues/16#issuecomment-255570475
<DanC_> next step: mix in Capper
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<DanC_> hm... Capper requires SSL
<DanC_> gotta undo that
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<ShalokShalom> hi there
<ShalokShalom> this happens to me on 2 different Servers, with 2 different OS
<dwrensha> ShalokShalom: perhaps you have some kind of problem with your DNS configuration
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<dwrensha> ShalokShalom: asheesh described some possible problems here: https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/4vrj4sIOFYy1iJfYKkvkqJGUTvBXLhb6CLODn-HQ2UF
<dwrensha> ShalokShalom: what happen when you run `sandstorm status`?
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<ShalokShalom> dwrensha: hi and thanks alot
<ShalokShalom> sandstorm/run-bundle.c++:1238: failed: You do not have permission to read the pidfile directory. Perhaps your user account is not a member of the server's group?
<dwrensha> how about `sudo sandstorm status`?
<ShalokShalom> Sandstorm is running; PID = 6587
<dwrensha> ok, good
<dwrensha> are you using a sandcats domain?
<ShalokShalom> yes
<ShalokShalom> ecooo-center
<dwrensha> is your server running behind any kind of firewall or proxy?
<ShalokShalom> nope
<dwrensha> that log looks fine
<ShalokShalom> fine
<ShalokShalom> thanks
<ShalokShalom> so whats about the tokken?
<ShalokShalom> the same thing happens for me on 2 different devices
<dwrensha> even without the token, I would expect to be able to connect to ecooo-center.sandcats.io
<ShalokShalom> one time Kubuntu, one time KaOS
<ShalokShalom> aha, ok
<ShalokShalom> so?
<ShalokShalom> shalokshalom.sandcats.io is the other one
<ShalokShalom> iirc
<dwrensha> both of those addresses successfully resolve in DNS
<dwrensha> is 80.110.82.32 the IP address of your server?
<ShalokShalom> what was again the command to check this?
<ShalokShalom> external websites frequently show the wrong..
<dwrensha> hm... looking at the log again, those "Skipping unreadable HTTPS key information file while examining: /var/sandcats/https/ecooo-center.sandcats.io/0.csr.response-json" lines are a bit troubling
<ShalokShalom> aha?
<dwrensha> asheesh would know better than I whether they might be the problem
<ShalokShalom> i see
<dwrensha> if you run `ifconfig` on the server, does one of the interfaces have address "80.110.82.32"?
<ShalokShalom> i am in with WLAN, since this device is WLAN only
<dwrensha> ah, that might be the problem
<ShalokShalom> why?
<dwrensha> so I'm guessing 80.110.82.32 is the public address of your router
<ShalokShalom> maybe
<ShalokShalom> when i go to http://80.110.82.32/, nothing happens
<ShalokShalom> other devices is laptop, also in with WLAN there
<ShalokShalom> *device
<dwrensha> your server needs to be able to accept connections from the outside world
<dwrensha> to get that to work, you may need to configure your router to forward certain connections
<ShalokShalom> aha
<ShalokShalom> thanks
<ShalokShalom> in specific?
<dwrensha> some discussion here ^
<dwrensha> I think the important part is that you'll need to forward port 443
<ShalokShalom> ok thanks
<ShalokShalom> open port 443?
<ShalokShalom> forwording: http://funkyimg.com/i/2iK1q.png
<ShalokShalom> *forwarding
<ShalokShalom> why is it not part of this one here? :/
<dwrensha> (by the way, I've been assuming that you do actually want to be able to access your server from outside the LAN. If not, then port forwarding is probably not the way to go.)
<ShalokShalom> ok
<ShalokShalom> i want, yes
<ShalokShalom> is this tricky because i use WLAN?
<ShalokShalom> or can this happen in other cases as well?
<ShalokShalom> i strongly recommend to mention this in installation guide
<dwrensha> ok, noted
<ShalokShalom> thanks
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<dwrensha> it's ticky because NAT adds an extra layer of complication
<dwrensha> *tricky
<dwrensha> and the Sandstorm installer has no way to automatically configure your router
<ShalokShalom> ah ok
<ShalokShalom> is this upcoming=
<ShalokShalom> planned?
<dwrensha> the more common way to install Sandstorm is through a hosting provider that gives your server a public IP address
<ShalokShalom> aha
<dwrensha> Digital Ocean, for ecample
<dwrensha> *example
<ShalokShalom> i know
<ShalokShalom> thanks a lot
<ShalokShalom> for your kind support
<ShalokShalom> where can i get help tp configure this?
<ShalokShalom> ##networking
<ShalokShalom> dwrensha: what is the local webserver adress?
<ShalokShalom> sandstorm brings its own?
<dwrensha> I think that will be the IP address you observed in `ifconfig`
<dwrensha> if you're using DHCP, it might not be stable :\
<ShalokShalom> pff
<dwrensha> so you may need to give your server a static IP
<ShalokShalom> why is this stuff such complex xD
<ShalokShalom> how to detect if i use one or the other?
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<ShalokShalom> dwrensha: might that help?
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