<mnutt_>
it’s specific to my setup, as I just tried vagrant-spk with paperwork and everything worked
<mnutt_>
it turns out I had modified vagrant to forward 6080 on the host to 6081, I have no idea why that would break anything that way but updating it fixed it.
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<paulproteus>
Howdy mnutt_
<paulproteus>
I saw your remark here. FWIW, port 6081 is the mongodb port in Sandstorm, so it's semi-understandable that things would go haywire if you try to speak HTTP to that.
<paulproteus>
Aw ckocagil I get invalid token at your /shared/ link above.
<dwrensha>
I'm wondering why it requires 10MB on initialization
<ckocagil>
dwrensha: I copy some directories that the app needs to be writeable
<ckocagil>
and symlink the rest
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<dwrensha>
why do they need to be writable?
<paulproteus>
Howdy larjona
<paulproteus>
Saw your email; was going to hop on debconf-team and reply
<dwrensha>
are they for plugins or logs or something like that?
<larjona>
hi
<ckocagil>
dwrensha: it modifies the public/ directory for I guess theme stuff
<dwrensha>
themes, ah
<dwrensha>
so you can cumstomize the theme?
<ckocagil>
yeah.
<paulproteus>
larjona: If you'd prefer to reply, that's OK with me.
<ckocagil>
first person to log in is the admin
<ckocagil>
who can change the theme and colors
<larjona>
no, in fact, paulproteus, I'm not sure what else to say
<paulproteus>
It seems to me that someone (e.g. me) should fix NoScript so it can whitelist *.storm.debian.net.
<paulproteus>
( :
<dwrensha>
ckocagil: whoa, I just clicked through to my admin dashboard (on my own grain)
<dwrensha>
it opened in a new tab
<ckocagil>
yeah I gotta fix that too
<larjona>
I don't know very well NoScript nor similar, I thought it was weird that I cannot whitelist *.whatever, but I thought maybe *I* don't know how to do it
<dwrensha>
or, rather, it busted out of the iframe
<paulproteus>
i,i what we need is the opposite of framebusting
<dwrensha>
is "framebusting" the appropriate term here?
<paulproteus>
I believe that what it did is framebusting but I'm not sure, yeah.
* ckocagil
knows who to call when there are frames in the neighborhood
* paulproteus
literally lols.
<dwrensha>
I think target="_parent" is what causes it
<ckocagil>
can it not be controlled by iframe sandboxing?
<mnutt_>
is there any way to get ionotify events into the filesystem namespace within a grain? with vagrant-spk, ideally I’d be able to update a file on the host system and the grain would pick it up and recompile the app. or is this in direct conflict with the way namespaces work?
<paulproteus>
It's not in direct conflict, but it is does use Linux syscalls that are (I believe) blocked within the Sandstorm sandbox.
<paulproteus>
But we could create a shim to make it work again.
<mnutt_>
it’s somewhat of an edge case since it’s only useful for development
<paulproteus>
'spk dev' should already be allowing files to be edited hot, so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do!
<paulproteus>
So maybe I should ask: "What are you really trying to do?"
<mnutt_>
ember, in dev mode, watches the filesystem and recompiles the app when files change. but I’m not seeing the changes come through
<paulproteus>
Oh, interesting.
<mnutt_>
it’s complicated slightly by going vagrant -> debian -> grain, but even when I touch files in the debian host I don’t see the updates.
<paulproteus>
Yeah, we're probably blocking the inotify syscalls that ember attempts.
<paulproteus>
Let me dou Let me double check that by reading the syscall blacklist.
<paulproteus>
I don't _see_ us blocking inotify directly or via fcntl.
<mnutt_>
I’m going to see if I can add some debugging to try to see what’s actually coming through
<paulproteus>
Great. But also if you can wait until Monday I imagine kentonv already knows exactly what's going on.
<paulproteus>
I'd love to see your experimentation, too, so feel mega free to do that.
<mnutt_>
sounds good. at this point I’ve spent more time messing around with my dev environment trying to get it just right than actually working on the app :)
<paulproteus>
Also BTW it seems that Ghost uses some Ember plugin for auth, so if you end up doing something Ember-y Sandstorm-y auth-y thing, then possibly we can make the Sandstorm package of Ghost use that, which would probably save us a huge amount of time refreshing the package periodically.
<paulproteus>
Which also means I'm very incentivized to help you with Ember-y things.
<paulproteus>
Also I realizedl ike six ways I could have written it better since posting it. Oh well.
<larjona>
paulproteus i whitelisted storm.debian.net but I still cannot do anything useful with for example http://deb.li/testwekan
<larjona>
no, no, sorry, that's not related to noscript
<paulproteus>
Interesting
<larjona>
for wekan I think I should have a look at filing a bug, because when I share the link (edit-capable), people cannot edit unless they sign in and I grant them "invited user" permissions
<larjona>
(but scrumblr for example works well, even with non-logged-in users)
<larjona>
paulproteus thanks for your documented reply, in any case
<paulproteus>
Sure, happy to reply.
<paulproteus>
I think nothing should hinge on "Invited User" permissions, so if you can reproduce that, that could be a Sandstorm bug.
<paulproteus>
So long as you shared the grain with the people, (maybe and they sign in, depending on the app) it should work for them.
<paulproteus>
Although I admit I'm +1 on there being more "Invited Users".
<larjona>
ok paulproteus, I'll reproduce it, and file a bug (I'll have a look at wekan-sandstorm issues before, maybe it's already reported)
<paulproteus>
Awesome. Great, thank you.!
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<ckocagil>
Q: has anyone considered the ability to give pretty URLs to grains?
<larjona>
ckocagil I'm actually user an url shortener when sharing links (in my case, deb.li/prettyURL when I share with the debian community)
<paulproteus>
Yeah -- we were discussing this a little bit yesterday around this time; the archives have some of that.
<larjona>
user -> using
<paulproteus>
The simplest thing I'd like to see is sandstorm.example.com/{{shortName}} as a redirect to a specific sharing link.
<larjona>
btw my preferred url shortener ( pili.la ) died, and I'm considering to selfhost one.
<paulproteus>
It'd be "easy" to create a Sandstorm-hosted URL shortener that uses the web publishing features, if you're OK with each shortened URL being a HTML page with a META REFRESH.
<paulproteus>
Presumably we could improve the web publishing features to permit redirects, but you could hack it in the above way.
<paulproteus>
Then you could bind a domain to the web publishing content, like how WordPress in Snadstorandstorm works, and you could make https:/.
<paulproteus>
...
<paulproteus>
Then you could bind a domain to the web publishing content, like how WordPress in Sandstorm works.
<ckocagil>
paulproteus: serving proper short urls would be better though
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<Takumi>
Hi. Are sandcats recovery emails working right now?
<kentonv>
mnutt_, paulproteus: the problem is that the FUSE layer doesn't support inotify.
<mnutt_>
kentonv: ah, that makes sense. polling works well enough for my use case.
<kentonv>
we could in theory support it, it's just work. And any work relating to inotify tends to be very complicated frustrating work. :P
<kentonv>
(FUSE has the hooks, but the FUSE layer in spk dev was implemented assuming the underlying data was immutable)
<mnutt_>
yeah, as I started looking into it I realized it’s probably odd to start up a grain and then start modifying its contents from the outside. I’m now thinking it may make more sense to run the watcher / asset compiler on the host system and integrate a reload of spk dev when files change.
<mnutt_>
(the only challenge there is that npm is really unhappy with native modules compiled for different archs. I really need to switch my dev environment to linux one of these days…)
<Takumi>
So about sandcats recovery emails - are they sending or is it just me?
<dwrensha>
Takumi: I suppose that paulproteus would know
<kentonv>
Takumi: what's your email address? (Or just a prefix if you don't want to reveal it here.)
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<Takumi>
My url appears to be working now, I just hadn't retried it with the right configuration for a while.