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<desm> hi
<desm> I have a question regarding Sandstorm URLs and the URL changing per session... and setting up DNS aliases
<desm> So I set up a DNS alias the other day to point to a grain on Oasis
<desm> And I just read the bit about the URL changing per session
<desm> So am just a bit confused, because doesn't the DNS alias point to a specific session then?
<paulproteus> Hi desm!
<paulproteus> The "static publishing" endpoint is fixed, although the "session" endpoint is not.
<paulproteus> Maybe I should add that info to https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/developing/path/
<desm> OK, thanks, though admittedly I am not sure what the difference between the two is yet. I will do more reading! ;-)
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<paulproteus> Aw bye desm! Hope that helped some.
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<ckocagil> How do you avoid copyright issues when you use an app's logo in the app store?
<dwrensha> ckocagil: ask permission?
<ckocagil> I was hoping it'd fall under a fair use clause :-)
<paulproteus> If it's an open source app and it's open source software, typically the logo permits distribution, just like the code of the app permits it.
<paulproteus> So you'd make sure to provide appropriate credits in the "Notices" section of the sandstorm-pkgdef.capnp I believe.
<paulproteus> But I'm just waking up so who knows if this is accurate, this is not legal advice, etc.
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<paulproteus> I am _super_ excited about resumable sessions because I am under the impression it'll result in me not getting the "no grain found for publicid asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf" on my grains when I suspend & re-open my laptop 10 minutes later.
<dwrensha> paulproteus: was that not fixed by https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/pull/867 ?
<dwrensha> or perhaps it go re-broken since then
<paulproteus> I dunno I am experiencing it though
<paulproteus> Let me read the pull
<paulproteus> Huh, it's merged.
<paulproteus> I guess I should file a bug then.
<paulproteus> I'll just wait to trigger it. I find myself very affected (both "affected frequently" and "emotionally affected") by this.
<ckocagil> Gogs port should be almost done now. Requesting reviewers!
<paulproteus> Ooh
<paulproteus> ckocagil: Lemme see
<paulproteus> ckocagil: Wow this is so good! re: "First, add an authorization key to git" and then "you can clone this empty repository" or "add as a remote to an existing repository on your computer"
<paulproteus> That is effing glorious.
<paulproteus> I'm curious what the meaning of the "Is repo private?" question is.
<ckocagil> paulproteus: same as private repos on github
<paulproteus> I guess it's, when I add others to this grain, can they see this repo?
<paulproteus> Ya
<paulproteus> It strikes me as a world within a world, but I guess that's life in a multi-repo git grain.
<ckocagil> yeah, I'll make a single-repo version as well
<paulproteus> OK this is completely great.
<ckocagil> thanks!
<paulproteus> My email address is c3d9c1ed-a3d1-4920-b788-aa26454436e5@localhost on my home page.
<paulproteus> The Followers feature doesn't make buckets of sense; maybe that's OK.
<paulproteus> It could make more sense depending on details, after all.
<paulproteus> Does Gogs support web hooks, I'm curious to know?
<ckocagil> IIRC it does
<paulproteus> It'd be _so_ cool to (one day!??) have a Gogs that I can push to that then pushes to my GitHub.
<paulproteus> But that's not a show-stopper or anything.
<paulproteus> Also at some point you'll want/need some app market graphics. @neynah on github can help you with that if you like.
<ckocagil> anything I'll need other than the Gogs icon?
<paulproteus> In other news if you can ask Gogs.io to support HTTPS via e.g. CloudFlare that'd be nice! https://gogs.io/docs is an error page.
<paulproteus> Again not a show-stopper by any means.
<paulproteus> re: icons: We seem to like having curved corners for the appGrid icon but square corners for the appMarket icon.
<paulproteus> I don't think this is documented at https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/developing/publishing-apps/ though.
<paulproteus> So it's not like we can meaningfully hold you to these things (but expect a @neynah pull request presumably if you don't curve some borders).
<paulproteus> I think she plans to document that soonish.
<paulproteus> At some point the "WebHooks" Gogs section should be replaced with something powerbox-y but there is no powerbox yet.
<paulproteus> There's this super cool Slack integration thing that I'm looking at in the (Sandstorm) Gogs UI but I presume it'll be blocked due to no outbound HTTP requests from the grain.
<paulproteus> So presumably you could say "WebHooks are disabled until Sandstorm supports inter-app communication better."
<paulproteus> On the WebHooks page.
<paulproteus> And remove the "Add Webhook" button
<paulproteus> Related to this string for your grepping pleasure: "Webhooks are much like basic HTTP POST event triggers. Whenever something occurs in Gogs"
<paulproteus> The fact that the repo has a name that is chosen by me (the creator of the grain) is *way* nicer (IMHO) than the fixed name of the GitWeb + GitLab things.
<paulproteus> So massive bravo to you on that. I hope you retain that even on the single-grain one.
<paulproteus> I mean single-grain single-repo one.
<paulproteus> Ooh, it includes issues, very nice.
<paulproteus> That gopher trapped inside a G is a nice logo IMHO.
<paulproteus> "My mirrors (0)"
<paulproteus> ooh
<paulproteus> I wonder how that's supposed to work.
<paulproteus> </ramble>
<paulproteus> I think the only request I have is that the email address on the front page of my user account be removed or made into my actual email address.
<paulproteus> Probably removed since I can't think of a way for the app to know my actual email address.
<paulproteus> It would be hypothetically _super_ cool if making a repo "Public" would result in gogs publishing it at a static URL endpoint.
<paulproteus> That's another pie-in-the-sky feature request.
<paulproteus> In which case I'd ask for the repo to be "Private" by default.
<paulproteus> But then I could have anonymous cloning which would be sweet.
<paulproteus> That would also be pie-in-the-sky, not something that's required for app market quality.
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<paulproteus> Going AFK a bit. Only one actionable request from me.
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<rsynnest> Hi all, I'm wondering what is the best way to update sandstorm? Rerun the install script?
<rsynnest> hello?
<paulproteus> Hi rsynnest
<paulproteus> sudo sandstorm update
<paulproteus> But also it'll auto-update if you allowed it to.
<paulproteus> See /opt/sandstorm/sandstorm.conf and see if UPDATE_CHANNEL=dev is present in the file.
<paulproteus> BTW hi! I'm in San Francisco; I see you have a 128.* IP address, which usually means a university somewhere. That's great.
<paulproteus> I'm going away to watch a video but feel free to email me, community@sandstorm.io
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<rsynnest> Thanks much! It looks like it was already up to date but I was trying to get the sandcats functionality which it didn't pull automatically. i just reran the install script and it cleverly knew about existing install and walked me through a re-install asking if I'd like to keep X and Y.
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<rsynnest> and yes I'm at UC Davis, born in Palo Alto. Actually one of the advisers for Sandstorm (Andy Lutomirski) used to live in the house I grew up in
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