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<leitz> Also, a "suggestion" is better than an answer. I'm working on a koan and trying to learn.
<adam12> leitz: With a small sample set, any chance it was just luck that it was the same?
<go|dfish> leitz: puts dice_1_rolls after line 21 as well
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<adam12> Nevermind. Definitely not chanc.
<adam12> leitz: You're copying a reference to an array. That array is mutated in the second run, and the reference reflects that.
<adam12> s/copying/assigning
<leitz> go|dfish, good point! That shows the difference.
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<leitz> adam12, I see your point. Now to figure it out.
<leitz> What's confusing is that this is seems more difficult than the average koan challenge.
<adam12> leitz: Which part
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<gitter1234> adam12: Ah yes ofcourse, silly me, thanks!
<adam12> gitter1234: np
<leitz> adam12, in the pass by reference. I made it harder because I defined initialize to make the original array.
<leitz> adam12, go|dfish, the fix was to put "@values = Array.new" in the "roll" method, thus making a new object each time.
<leitz> And on that note, it's nappy time. Thank you all!
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<burgestrand> I'm trying to figure out if I have an opinion on inheriting from StandardError vs RuntimeError, but I can't think of an argument that isn't completely arbitrary/subjective.
<burgestrand> Looking at the Ruby source it appears there's no actual difference, other than RuntimeError < StandardError, i.e. no extra methods, the message isn't different, etc
<burgestrand> Since pretty much all errors are thrown during "runtime", I can't use that as a guide for "oh these errors are thrown during runtime vs compile time" :D
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<tty1> if i am in class X, and calling a method in class Y that takes a do block. class X is calling that method in class Y and the do block itself is written in the initalize method of class X, is there a way for my do block to reference the self that is X (when i try this self points to Y)?
<jhass> tty1: got a minimal example to demonstrate? Might be a bit easier to follow :)
<tty1> jhass: sure one second
<jhass> eh, so much for "minimal" :P
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<tty1> jhass: well before the def after_configuration didnt work because it called pdf_export and thus app.proxy which it couldnt see/find .. so i need to do it with the do block in the initalize
<tty1> jhass: the app.after_configuration in the initialze with the do block should be able to call proxy.. but now i cant call self.pdf_proxy
<jhass> ah
<jhass> so normally this would work like you expect. I guess in this context however app.after_configuration invokes its block via instance_eval. So the workaround to get to self here is to assign it to a local variable before the block, this = self; app.after_configuration { this.pdf_proxy }
<tty1> hmm let me give that a go
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<tty1> jhass: ok that seemed to work, now its just complaining that the method is private, but thats easy enough to fix :) I'll make it public
<jhass> great :)
<jhass> tty1: if the def after_configuration hooks is called otherwise like you need it to, it might also be simply possible to store app in def initialize and use it there, def initialize; @app = app; end; def after_configuration; @app.foo; end
<tty1> jhass: thanks , im onto other problems now though :)
<jhass> @app here is called an instance variable
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<tty1> jhass: now im having a different problem but i hacked a different solution ... mind helping me again?
<jhass> just ask your question, anybody with time and a clue will respond :)
<tty1> so thats the new form
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<tty1> now my problem is when i try to called proxy it says "ArgumentError: wrong number of arguments (given 0, expected 2..3)"
<tty1> seems odd as im clearly passing in multiple arguments
<tty1> jhass: bear in mind proxy here is a method i passed in as an argument (since i had no way to access it that I could figure out
<jhass> Ruby doesn't have first-order functions like this
<tty1> jhass: hmm, so no way to pass a function as an argument? seems odd it seems to recognize proxy as a function based on the error...
<jhass> so if you do for example def a; end; def b(x); end; b(a), this is invoking a, taking the return value and passing it for the x argument to b
<tty1> ahhhh
<jhass> what you can do is use a lambda
<tty1> let me try a different hack, maybe i can pass the self in from the source and then call throught hat.. one sec
<jhass> def a; end; def b(x); x.call; end; b(-> { a })
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<jhass> now ruby also provides a method called method, which allows you to get a lambda from a method
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<jhass> >> class X; def a; "hi"; end; end; x = X.new; x.method(:a).call
<ruby[bot]> jhass: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: NoMethodError:undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass
<jhass> &>> class X; def a; "hi"; end; end; x = X.new; x.method(:a).call
<rubydoc_> # => "hi" (https://carc.in/#/r/9rl6)
<jhass> &>> class X; def a; "hi"; end; end; def b(a); puts a.call; end; x = X.new; b(x.method(:a))
<rubydoc_> # => hi... check link for more (https://carc.in/#/r/9rl9)
<tty1> jhass: sweet, thanks, new hack worked.. my problems dont appear to be ruby related now :)
<jhass> :P
<jhass> okay, good luck
<tty1> jhass: its a hack but i dont even care.. id learn the proper way but this is more an issue with middleman than ruby and i cant find docs on whats going on anyway
<tty1> jhass: very much appreciated
<jhass> sure, always also explaining to the benefit of the silent observers, you wouldn't guess how much I learned this way :)
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<phaul> &renick
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<rubydoc> okay
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<istrasci> Are Enumerable#any? and #all? guaranteed to short-circuit?
<adam12> istrasci: I _believe_ so;
<adam12> istrasci: The C source for both methods is just a simple `if` that breaks the loop.
<havenwood> istrasci: It's in the spec to stop iterating: https://github.com/ruby/spec/blob/master/core/enumerable/any_spec.rb#L90-L118
<istrasci> Thank you, that's what I was looking for.
<istrasci> Where is the code for Enumerable? I'm not sure where to look in the code tree...
<havenwood> istrasci: enum
<havenwood> istrasci: (If you mean CRuby?)
<istrasci> Thanks!
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<havenwood> istrasci: TruffleRuby has nice Ruby implementations: https://github.com/oracle/truffleruby/blob/vm-20.2.0/src/main/ruby/truffleruby/core/enumerable.rb
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<nakilon> I wonder why there is no Selenium or Capybara channel in Freenode
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<nakilon> I made a little thingy https://i.imgur.com/1sld5NC.png
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<havenwood> nakilon: nice!
<nakilon> thank you
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