<Industrial`>
This will put '.yml' at the end of every file path in the fixtures array
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<Industrial`>
and then try to load them
<Industrial`>
I have JSON files, not YML files, what now?
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<havenwood>
Industrial`: JSON is a subset of YAML.
<havenwood>
Industrial`: Change the extensions to `.yml`?
<Industrial`>
havenwood: Can't. It's not "my" project and I have to bake something in :-)
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<Industrial`>
I'm adding cucumber testing with capybara and cucumber-rails and I need test data, which in this project is saved in JSON files in (not spec/ but) test/fixtures
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<Industrial`>
How does ActiveRecord know which model to create an instance of anyway :S
<havenwood>
I came up with that one, but it only seems to amuse me, heh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<havenwood>
?snowman havenwood
<ruby[bot]>
havenwood: Here's a snowman for you: ☃
* rapha
reeds
<rapha>
reads*
* rapha
likes UGT
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<rapha>
hmm
<rapha>
if i have a script that depends on a gem installed only as part of a bundle and i want to call that script like ./script, what does the shebang have to look like to make that work?
<jhass>
rapha: alternatively just require "bundler/setup"
<rapha>
oh! that seems much more sensible, thank you jhass!
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<ignorand>
Hi
<rapha>
outside of the whole hipster heroku world ... do people use vendor/bundle/ and do they check it into their git repos?
<jhass>
rapha: some do but I find that ugly. First of all vendor/bundle is not intended for redistribution, bundler supports that separately under the package/cache subcommand (I think it was renamed in 2.0?). Even then I would recommend that to happen in a CI/CD pipeline step that packages a deployment bundle (tarball or whatever) to be uploaded to the deployment target
<jhass>
the big problem with packaging vendor/bundle is ABI incompatibility of native extensions between the packaging environment and the deployment environment
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<jhass>
and I'd argue to not commit the package cache because it bloats the repository a lot
<jhass>
as long as you commit Gemfile.lock, the --deployment flag will make sure to install the exact versions again
<jhass>
so it's only a question of network availability and _maybe_ deployment speed (which could be solved with proper caching inside the CI/CD environment) and build tool availability for native extensions in the deployment environment
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* rapha
loves opinionated advice
<rapha>
also, neither are a concern in my case, as all involved machines are VMs on the same hunk of metal
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<jhass>
that doesn't mean the have the same upgrade level or even OS
<jhass>
ABI incompatiblity is far beyond architecture
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<rapha>
it kind of does mean that because they're all maintained by me.
<rapha>
which is a very different situation from someone who tries to maintain a Gem for the world to use...
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<ignorand>
@rapha /vendor/bundle is in my gitignore by default when creating a project
<ignorand>
so I think most people ignore it
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<gitter1234>
No idea what she's saying, but I love it!
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<lmat>
It is so frustrating not to know everything there is to know about rails and all the libraries in use and trying to maintain rails code!
<lmat>
Discoverability? Who needs it?
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<lmat>
Every time I try to make any progress on anything, I'm thwarted! I try to make a spec for a controller. Struggle through 12 or so issues absolutely in the dark, guessing and groping. Eventually I come to an issue that takes more than 1.5 days or so and still no progress. "I know, I'll make a minimum example from the ground up and see if I can figure out what is going on."
<lmat>
Building that example up, there's more magic and mystery! 8 more road blocks here and there: completely non-obvious problems and solutions that require deep incantations to fix. Everything makes sense once you know what was wrong in the first place, but before you know, there's no way to learn!
<lmat>
Okay, I'll stop.
<lmat>
Back to the galleys.
<gitter1234>
lmat: You talking about Whac-A-Mole? :)
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<lmat>
gitter1234: No, it's worse than that. Whac-a-mole in the dark.
<gitter1234>
Hehe
<lmat>
gitter1234: I've been a professional programmer for over a decade and worked on lots of different frameworks and languages. I've done lots of whac-a-mole.
<lmat>
gitter1234: This is sadism.
<lmat>
gitter1234: It's torture for the uninitiated.
<lmat>
over and over and over I have a question like "where is that defined/specified?" and there is never an answer.
<lmat>
If I find an answer, it's NEVER in the code!! The answer to "where is that defined/specified?" is always found on STACK OVERFLOW!!
<lmat>
So if I'm lucky enough that 1) some other sap had the same problem and 2) someone showed him the solution, then I'm in the clear.
<gitter1234>
Best bet is to create a reduced test app IMHO. Accompanied by a detailed and well laid out gist. Folks here are always willing to take a look then.
<gitter1234>
Although asking at the right times when the right people are around is a whole 'nother ball game.
<gitter1234>
Sorry to hear that though.
<gitter1234>
For what it's worth, I'm a real sucky programmer, so take what I say with a grain of salt :)
<al2o3-cr>
he's not so bad. "it him again rocky!"
<lmat>
I think I would be okay if I were building an app from scratch. I would find the getting started guide, follow the magic incantations and everything is gravy. The problem is, someone else has already done the incantations, and now I have to do reverse-incantations. There are no traces left because of the Rails Way which seems to be: type as little as possible, leave no traces behind.
<al2o3-cr>
*him
<al2o3-cr>
*hit
<al2o3-cr>
WOWzer
<gitter1234>
Hit and miss? hehe
<lmat>
gitter1234: Even creating a minimal example is bound to be frustrating to folks here because I'll be saying, "See, this doesn't work." The community verifies: "yup, doesn't work. You need to define X in your Y." Then I say, but in my real project, that's not defined that way. Then everyone looks around and shrugs.
<al2o3-cr>
Search Results
<al2o3-cr>
Web results
<al2o3-cr>
Ży
<al2o3-cr>
xzz
<lmat>
al2o3-cr: My web history would not fit on your hard drive :-P
<lmat>
Okay, I'm really going to stop complaining now ^_^
<al2o3-cr>
256mb
<adam12>
rapha: I only have vendor/bundle checked in for a single project and I _hate_ it.
<gitter1234>
lmat: That's never been a problem to me at least. My app is super complex too but extracting code into a reduced test case has never been a problem. Though it's been very time-consuming :(
<adam12>
I didn't realize bundle had an option to maybe make a single gem a vendor'd dependency. Might have to look at that.
<al2o3-cr>
lmat: crazy?
<adam12>
lmat: I've heard lots of people complain about Rails discoverability. Boils down to if you weren't there for the 0.x, 1.x, 2.x releases you won't know a lot of history behind design choices and functionality.
<gitter1234>
* My app is super complex too, but extracting its code into reduced test cases have never been a problem. Although extremely time-consuming :(
<adam12>
lmat: I'm reading through a book for the heck of it by Noah Gibbs called Rebuilding Rails and it's interesting. Basically "Rails" from the ground up. Might be worth a read to you.
<adam12>
I wish in some ways Merb lived on more than it did way back when, but I have some hope for Hanami.
<al2o3-cr>
lmat: consider using a piss easy framework like sinatra or hanami then?
<gitter1234>
He's always like "I don't use Rails, but use Rhoda, and then I'll help you" lol
<gitter1234>
For Ruby questions he always helps though, much like you guys
<al2o3-cr>
no
<gitter1234>
al2o3-cr: It runs many of the websites of the Californian government though
<gitter1234>
But yeah probably not the same thing :(
<al2o3-cr>
roda yes, rhoda no.
<gitter1234>
Haha
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<al2o3-cr>
:P
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<al2o3-cr>
rails is a vast framework and it's understandable where people come to a standing dance.
<lmat>
adam12: "if you weren't there...you won't know a lot of history..." makes sense.
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<lmat>
al2o3-cr: "consider using a[n] ... easy framework" I'm sure that would be fine. The problem is that I'm now a code maintainer. I have no control over the history of the code and a rewrite is not in the cards.
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<lmat>
al2o3-cr: What's a standing dance? As in the ecosystem is too large to make any changes with confidence?
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<lmat>
When I run rspec, I get "undefined method `encrypted_password=' for #<User:0x00005588152a4b10>"
<lmat>
That makes sense because there is no "encrypted_password" field on my User object.
<lmat>
When I remove :database_authenticatable from the model, I get, "undefined method `password=' for #<User:0x000055e7ba628868>" when I run rspec.
<lmat>
Again, makes sense because there is no password field on the User class.
<lmat>
I have a working project that has a setup like this one and it does not seem to have a password field on the user class either. But clearly there's some magic in the other project that makes this work?
<al2o3-cr>
lmat: isn't this better asked in #rubyonrails ?
<gitter1234>
lmat: Sorry but that's still not a reduced test app accompanied by a well-formated gist :(
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<adam12>
lmat: You definitely want to share stack traces in this case. My guess is `login_admin` does something like User.create(.., password: "blah") and that's where the error is.
<rhiza>
there you go, remove the password/password_confirmation lines
<gitter1234>
al2o3-cr: You don't think so? Only people helping out in #rubyonrails are the OPs here because they feel sorry for the channel
<lmat>
rhiza: But the other project has that.
<adam12>
lmat: What's the ultimate end goal here? You want there to be a password or no?
<rhiza>
are you missing an attr_accessor :password or similar?
<adam12>
lmat: Seems like adding an encrypted_password field to the users table would solve the problem. You're saying your other project doesn't include that and you're using that as a reference?
<lmat>
adam12: The ultimate goal is to make sure the documents are sorted on display so they don't sometimes show up in a different order. Along those lines, I created a controller spec to test that
<al2o3-cr>
gitter1234: never ventured there, just gave it a wake up call.
<lmat>
adam12: Yes, exactly. The other project doesn't include that and I'm using that as a reference!
<lmat>
rhiza: where would attr_accessor go? In the model/user.rb?
<adam12>
lmat: What happens if you never call `login_admin` in your controller spec?
<lmat>
adam12: Checking!
<adam12>
lmat: Presuming it's going to error. I think you just need to add that database column.
<lmat>
The error is reasonable because I haven't set up routes yet: https://paste.rs/LwI
<rhiza>
I feel like you should search your reference project for `password` and see where it's missing in your new project
<lmat>
adam12: but the other project...
<rhiza>
maybe the reference project added those columns in a later migration
<adam12>
lmat: Can you show _entire_ schema.rb for other project? Only thing I can think of is using Devise with a different auth mechanism? I'm not sure.
<rhiza>
or maybe the reference project is using attr_accessor, etc
<lmat>
rhiza: Oh yes, I've done it a dozen times ^_^ you know... password is in the controller and I currently don't have a controller at all in the minimal project...
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<lmat>
adam12: I don't think I can do that, but here's the user table from the schema in the original project https://paste.rs/MbW
<al2o3-cr>
people that go straight to rails without learning ruby should be chucked in the bin
* lmat
flings himself in the bin.
<adam12>
lmat: It's second line inside the block. t.string "encrypted_password", null: false
<Uncle_Cid>
if I were to post some rspec code here without any reference to the code it's testing, could I possibly get some comments on my rspec syntax at least?
* lmat
shoots himself
<havenwood>
lmat: I think many relate to your frustrations with a lack of cookie crumbs to follow with implicit Rails conventions. Phoenix does a better job of being explicit with what's going on with less garbled params.
<adam12>
lmat: Seems like you're missing all devise fields. Maybe you need a devise migration.
<lmat>
havenwood: I'm complaining about lack of cookie crumbs again. What divination would lead me to DatabaseAuthenticatable? The only way is for me to seek out the wisdom of the sages (thus).
<Uncle_Cid>
I always have a hard time writing specs because I think too much about if I'm correct or not
<Uncle_Cid>
I have working specs, and it seems clean right now
<lmat>
Uncle_Cid: What is this pile of terd vomit!? Dude, you need to go back and do "hello, world"
<Uncle_Cid>
:P
<havenwood>
lmat: You can ask Ruby about these things! :D Ruby is really nice.
<lmat>
Uncle_Cid: Sorry, Feeling a bit aggressive today.
<Uncle_Cid>
You're good my friend
<havenwood>
lmat: Ruby can tell you in the REPL where constants and methods are defined.
<lmat>
havenwood: I've heard as much.
<lmat>
adam12: Thank you very much for your help!
<lmat>
And the rest of you are oh-so friendly to a wandering beggar!
<adam12>
lmat: Cheers.
<rapha>
gitter1234: the title can be translated as "you know why (!)" or "do you know why (?)" (not sure which of those two it is) and then it goes on "... i love you" and then it goes on to a lot of very, very cheesy love babble that even without having ever taken egyptian colloquial at uni, with just my read/written arabic, i understand is nothing i want to listen to for too long :-P
<adam12>
Devise is definitely a special project. I noticed that just recently, the creator of Devise went the complete opposite direction for his new authentication "framework". Can't say I blame him.
<rapha>
modern _arabic_ popular music is _surprisingly_ similar to the _german_ music my grandma liked to listen to
<havenwood>
lmat: In the REPL: Module.const_source_location(DatabaseAuthenticatable)
<havenwood>
?irb lmat
<ruby[bot]>
lmat: irb is "interactive ruby", it is part of ruby. You can run ruby code and see results immediately. it's useful for testing code. Also see ?pry, a gem which is a popular alternative to irb.
<havenwood>
?pry lmat
<ruby[bot]>
lmat: Pry, the better IRB, provides easy object inspection `ls`, `history`, viewing docs `?`, viewing source `$`, syntax highlighting and other features (see `help` for more). Put `binding.pry` in your source code for easy debugging. Install Pry (https://pryrepl.org/): gem install pry pry-doc
<havenwood>
lmat: In Rails, the default console uses IRB or you can switch it to Pry. Either are great.
<havenwood>
lmat: rails console
<havenwood>
lmat: Or rather: bin/rails console
<lmat>
havenwood Thanks!
<havenwood>
A `binding.irb` with a little introspection can work wonders.
<lmat>
havenwood: (oops, somehow I typed /msg havenwoord instead of havenwood ^_^)
<havenwood>
lmat: You're welcome.
<lmat>
havenwood: I have some experience with pry from adam12 's advice before.
<havenwood>
lmat: Ah, nice.
<lmat>
havenwood: It's a very good tool.
<lmat>
Haven't used it on this project, but I likely will!
<havenwood>
There have also been some great recent improvements to IRB.
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<havenwood>
lmat: Other Pry gems that mesh well with Rails are: pry-doc, pry-rails, pry-rescue, pry-stack_explorer, & pry-theme
* lmat
bookmarks these
<rapha>
wow, the poor Ruby was heavily critized for her style of clothing and one of her movies was even banned by the government :(
<adam12>
pry-byebug is nice too
<rapha>
wow
<rapha>
that's awesome, thanks adam12
<adam12>
I talked to someone once who _hated_ Ruby (& Rails). I watched them work for a few minutes and their _only_ mechanism for investigating / debugging was awesome_print.. so no use of the REPL or poking around. Once they could look at objects and start a debugger anywhere, things changed competely for them.
<rapha>
hmm ... look at me ... puts debugging (or, as of recently, pp debugging) for years and loving ruby even so
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<al2o3-cr>
adam12: you need to know the shit before you spread it
<lmat>
adam12: Gotta embrace the whole ecosystem! No hope for a fella who's going to use assembly debug methods in rails ^_^
<havenwood>
lmat: Only hope for gals using assembly debug methods in Rails? :P
<adam12>
LOL. Not saying anything is wrong with puts debugging but just looking at an object can be sometimes unhelpful. Looking at it's methods, checking it's instance, navigating around, etc. just opens up so much more of a good experience.
<rapha>
okay, no wonder that rails doesn't get used a lot in europe
<rapha>
all the rails guys look too much like cowboys
<al2o3-cr>
phhaaa i can't stop laughing...
<lmat>
capybara?
<adam12>
I wonder if Gregg and Jason are still doing anything Rails related.
<adam12>
Ah, I forgot Jason passed.
<al2o3-cr>
that shit is funny
<al2o3-cr>
y so serial
<al2o3-cr>
joker
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<rapha>
is there a comparison between rails-ruby-people and non-rails-ruby-people?
<rapha>
"i get a lot done when i'm supposed to be doing something else" ... my brother
<al2o3-cr>
rapha: why should there be?
<rapha>
al2o3-cr: mostly so that i can feel good about myself.
<al2o3-cr>
rapha: it's all ruby at the end of the day!
<rapha>
no. it's ruby with too many rules.
<al2o3-cr>
&>> God < BasicObject
<rubydoc>
stderr: -e:4:in `<main>': uninitialized constant God (NameError)... check link for more (https://carc.in/#/r/9dhd)
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<rapha>
it should say "uninstantiable class God (ProtoError)", but i do appreciate the link, rubydoc
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<al2o3-cr>
rapha: what is ProtoError?
<rapha>
dunno ... it's like ... the mother of all errors
<al2o3-cr>
rapha: how?
<rapha>
well ... it's in the name!
<rapha>
i mean
<rapha>
have you ever tried to instantiate Universe?
<al2o3-cr>
rapha: lol
<rapha>
it's not possible because #initialize is not only private, it's outright *hidden* and can only be called by Universe itself, and there's no #new (or if there is, only God knows)
<rapha>
so, it's difficult
<al2o3-cr>
rapha: anything is possibe.
<rapha>
Universe and God nod their heads in agreement ... if they have heads ... they're not quite sure, though
* rapha
needs to stop watching the first 10 minutes of Aaron Patterson keynotes now
<adam12>
rapha: Hah.
<adam12>
rapha: after the puns, he gets into some great bits. Always a highlight of Ruby/Railsconf for me.
<lmat>
rapha is serious polyglot...how many languages do you know?
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<al2o3-cr>
god doesn't exist, government exist. and what a fucked up party.
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<rapha>
lmat: only German, English, Arabic and French, probably in that order. Unless you count anything where I know >= 10 but <= 20 words or phrases, then the list gets longer.
<lmat>
rapha: German is your first?
<rapha>
lmat: yes, annoyingly so. Also, unlike Aaron Patterson I know no Japanese at all.
<rapha>
apparently "-mas" is an important syllable in Japanese, judging from Aaron's use of it.
<lmat>
rapha: Annoyingly so? What would prefer be your first language?
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<al2o3-cr>
roda is king
<rapha>
lmat: Something without cases perhaps ... I hear that Indonesian is nice.
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<lmat>
rapha: You want to be ignorant of cases!?
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* lmat
wonders what it would be like if there was a nominative and accusative case in ruby...
<rapha>
lmat: a life without cases is a life lived more easily. just use syntax instead! no need for so much analytical thinking ... go surfing more!
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<adam12>
Uncle_Cid: Looks OK. Deep nesting is the 1000 papercuts of rspec so definitely watch how deep you nest.
<adam12>
Uncle_Cid: I personally dislike setting subject quite frequently, but I think that's up for debate. I _might_ reach for described_class but everything else is explicit. Boils down to personal taste.
<adam12>
Uncle_Cid: If you haven't read the RSpec book by Myron I definitely encourage you to pick it up too.
<Uncle_Cid>
Thank you for your input
<Uncle_Cid>
I have Effective Testing
<Uncle_Cid>
currently started it recently
<Uncle_Cid>
that sentence is dongs^ anyways
<Uncle_Cid>
I was kind of off with the subject juggling too, but
<Uncle_Cid>
I have seen it suggested as good practice
<al2o3-cr>
Uncle_Cid: that smells like python
* Uncle_Cid
shrugs
* kaleido
plugs his nose
<adam12>
Uncle_Cid: For me, biggest risk of spec's are indirection and mystery guests. Deep nesting and using subject seem to exuberate that.
<Uncle_Cid>
Heard that. I'll keep an eye out. The only tests I've ever written are ones from tutorials and books
<Uncle_Cid>
and I try to read the content and then apply it without the aid of the book.. or much aid from the book
<Uncle_Cid>
so it's not so much copying. But that's just syntax. It's difficult knowing what and how... and if you write crap code and try to test it after, you'll find when writing your specs that your code REALLY IS CRAP.. and that you should think about it more
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<Uncle_Cid>
Writing that one file worth of specs changed a lot of code, even though the untested code I had was working as expected
<Uncle_Cid>
time to eat now.
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<lmat>
You guys can open a bottle of wine on my behalf. I was about to come here and ask a question about a controller spec that didn't work but the real web site does work. I think I figured out at least what the difference is so I can keep working on it without help \o/
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<al2o3-cr>
lmat: ruby ruby ruby!
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<al2o3-cr>
shit happenz
<al2o3-cr>
zzzz....
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<lmat>
THE TEST PASSED!!! \o/
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<havenwood>
🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢
<havenwood>
lmat: Congrats!
<Uncle_Cid>
I'm getting more comfortable writing tests myself
<Uncle_Cid>
These past couple weeks have been quite a lit time for progress
<Uncle_Cid>
sorry people who are dying, but I get to stay home and study