<ewanchic>
In my compiled gem, using it as a executable with thor i pass it an option of a yaml file. when I pass it --opt=file.yaml or --opt=./file.yaml, it grabs the path of the gem location: /home/ewanchic/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.5.5/lib/ruby/gems/2.5.0/gems/freight-0.10.0/lib/freight/file.yml instead of the current location I'm executing the file from. How can I grab my current executing location?
<ewanchic>
I'm using : File.expand_path( yaml_filepath, __dir__ ) to get the location.
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<simonfromspace>
ewanchic Remember yesterday I was suggested to use Capybara with Cuprite?
<simonfromspace>
They seem to require installing a web driver.
<scipio_africanu4>
<ewanchic "scipio_africanus: what is synaps"> Matrix synapse
<scipio_africanu4>
Synapse is the basic matrix server
<ewanchic>
simonfromspace: 'a' webdriver, or 'the' webdriver?
<simonfromspace>
'a',
<ewanchic>
scipio_africanu4: hmm, interesting
<simonfromspace>
Right now, I have this button on the page like 'Load More', and I want a gem that can simply click it until all the content is loaded. When it is, I want to pass that page to Nokogiri.
<scipio_africanu4>
Synapse is the backend for how were all communicating rn
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<ewanchic>
simonfromspace: I've never really dived that far into scrapers.
<ewanchic>
scipio_africanu4: neato, I'll have to look at then when I get the chance
<scipio_africanu4>
I was just speculating on how cool it would be
<ewanchic>
simonfromspace: No problem. I'm actually scratching my head a bit...web driver? I'm really wondering what that means. and html parser? Javascript execution? where does it say it needs a 'web driver'?
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<ThibG>
hello! a few people reported a very weird bug in Mastodon: we apparently have a `rescue` block of the form `rescue => e` (used to re-raise the error with additional information) that reportedly sometimes receive `e` as a… String, rather than an Exception?
<ThibG>
with errors like “NoMethodError (undefined method `message' for "execution expired":String)”
<ThibG>
and “NoMethodError: undefined method `message' for "Net::ReadTimeout with #<TCPSocket:(closed)>":String”
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<ThibG>
I haven't been able to reproduce it myself, but multiple people got such errors, I'm not sure how that's even possible, “rescue => e” should always catch descendants of StandardError, not String, right?
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<adam12>
ThibG: You can't raise a String as an exception. Raise only permits descendants of Exception to be raised.
<adam12>
ThibG: Full stack trace would help. Not sure there's much to go on here. I know Timeout accepts a klass to raise. Maybe somehow it's received a String and there's a bug somewhere else... but it's a mystery indeed.
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<jhass>
yeah my first guess too would be some kind of delegator and the actual .message call is somewhere else
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<ThibG>
haven't got a full stack trace in any of the reports yet; I proposed affected people to replace the handler with something that'd print `caller_locations.inspect` whenever the caught “exception” doesn't respond to #message, but I haven't heard back from them yet
<mike27>
Hi all, complete newbie to programming here. Im wondering what would be the best approach to getting started would be and what are the most recommended resources for learning would be? Cheers, Mike.
<havenwood>
mike27: Folk here might have other ideas. Please ask here if you run into questions!
<mike27>
thanks for the reply, will take a look1
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<simonfromspace>
mike27 What do you want to do exactly?
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<kinduff>
good morning everyone
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<havenwood>
kinduff: alias g p; g'mornin'
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<leitz>
If you use @file = File.open(blah...blah), how do you get the name of the file from @file, later? Both "p" and "inspect" have it,I'm just not sure what they are calling it.
<woodruffw>
leitz: File#path has the string that was passed as a filename
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<havenwood>
Or the alias, #to_path.
<woodruffw>
yep!
<leitz>
Hey guys, thanks! I think that will give me what I need. It's a bit past time to update the resume, and since I'm trying to use Ruby as my programmer-language of choice, automating it in Ruby.
<havenwood>
leitz: So like?: File.basename(file.path) == 'long.txt'
<leitz>
ratah, spent some time this morning re-figuring out github.io, that's where my resume is. Once I get the resume forward, I'm going to put up some notes, just to have a page.
<leitz>
havenwood, the file path is "output/my_name_long.txt", with "my_name" coming from the data. In theory, someone else could use this as well. Doubtful, but there's always hope!
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<ewanchic>
ratah: I love royksopp
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<ewanchic>
In my compiled gem, using it as a executable with thor i pass it an option of a yaml file. when I pass it --opt=file.yaml or --opt=./file.yaml, it grabs the path of the gem location: /home/ewanchic/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.5.5/lib/ruby/gems/2.5.0/gems/freight-0.10.0/lib/freight/file.yml instead of the current location I'm executing the file from. How can I grab my current executing location?
<ewanchic>
I'm using : File.expand_path( yaml_filepath, __dir__ ) to get the location.
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<havenwood>
ewanchic: Dir.getwd
<ewanchic>
havenwood: Thank you!!
<apotheon>
damn
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<havenwood>
ewanchic: Or the alias: Dir.pwd
<apotheon>
I was trying to remember what it was called, and was about to say "don't remember off the top of my head; look it up in Dir documentation".
<havenwood>
ewanchic: It's quick to check in IRB or Pry. A little simpler in Pry.
<havenwood>
?pry
<ruby[bot]>
Pry, the better IRB, provides easy object inspection `ls`, `history`, viewing docs `?`, viewing source `$`, syntax highlighting and other features (see `help` for more). Put `binding.pry` in your source code for easy debugging. Install Pry (https://pryrepl.org/): gem install pry pry-doc
<havenwood>
ewanchic: ls Dir
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<ewanchic>
havenwood: ls Dir?
<havenwood>
ewanchic: In Pry that'll show you Dir's methods, constants and variables.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: Or for just methods: ls -m Dir
<havenwood>
ewanchic: You can do the same in pure Ruby, if you prefer.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: For example, see: Dir.public_methods(false)
<ewanchic>
havenwood: I'm like a well seasoned programmer...and at the same time a rusty /ametuer coder. New Lang, mostly the same, but sometimes different. It's hard to google the right question.
<rubydoc>
# => {File=>[:empty?, :join, :split, :size, :fnmatch, :fnmatch?, :directory?, :exist?, :exists?, :readable?,... check link for more (https://carc.in/#/r/8ksl)
<apotheon>
I've become a grumpy old curmudgeon.
<apotheon>
GET OFF MY LAN
<apotheon>
"Back in my day, we had to use curl and ed to view someone's online paste, and we liked it that way."
<ewanchic>
havenwood: I'm not a fast typer...so I'm trying to catch up. (or the best at grammar/spelling). My bad.
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<havenwood>
apotheon: I'd dial in to a MUD and exchange code through a local bard.
<apotheon>
nice
<ewanchic>
--& 25 >>, why the 25?
<apotheon>
I remember when sprunge didn't stop working for a week every month because it exceeded its bandwidth allotment.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: That told circ.in to evaluate the code with Ruby 2.5.
<ewanchic>
oh, ok
<havenwood>
ewanchic: (Showing it works on 2.5, rather than the default 2.7.)
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<ewanchic>
That is really cool. It's going to take me a while to catch up with all of this.
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<apotheon>
I should have realized the #ruby channel would be full of functionality like that.
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<ewanchic>
I was going to ask a few more general questions yesterday...but I need a moment to juggle my other tasks and get back.
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<ewanchic>
Oh yeah, do you setup a local gemserver? I was reading about it again yesterday. Just wondering if I need to download gems into a local server env becuase lately it is getting slow to redo bundle install everytime.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: The `bundle` command should use a local cache.
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<havenwood>
export BUNDLE_CACHE_ALL=1
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<havenwood>
ewanchic: Maybe check your `bundle config` for anything suspicous?
<ewanchic>
havenwood: I was reading that yesterday and I wasn't sure I I should daemonize gem server, or use a prebuilt package, etc.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: Normally, you just `bundle` and leave it be. It'll just use the gems from the Gemfile.lock, and not redownload them if they're available.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: If that's not working, we can help sort it out.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: You shouldn't need to run a local gemserver. You certainly can.
<ewanchic>
havenwood: well, no this is part of the gem I'm writing. I got two version right now, the public (which has nothing) and my private that I started off in Aug/Sep '19.
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<havenwood>
ewanchic: Oh. You can run a local gem server or just point your Gemfile at the local gem.
<havenwood>
ewanchic: If you're sharing a gem, you can use a private GitHub repo or run a gem server on a VPN.
<ewanchic>
So...freight is supposed to build your app for you. I Started on the 1st part in '19, I jsut finished the 2nd part last night. The first part purposly creates your gemset and downloads the gemsets inside of the rvm gemset that you need. The second part prepares and exports all your files for a nginx/unicorn env. This is designed (Probably similiar to rails composer?) to build and rebuild your app over and over again. Classic case of not wa
<ewanchic>
nted to repeat the setup features and the server links well building the app.
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<ewanchic>
brb
<apotheon>
havenwood: You seem pretty up-to-date, and I've just been sitting in a dark cave writing code, so . . .
<apotheon>
havenwood: Is there any reason rbenv isn't the greatest thing since slice bread any longer?
<havenwood>
apotheon: Instead of shims it just munges path and sets a few other env vars.
<apotheon>
Is that pretty much the elevator pitch for whta's better about it than rbenv?
<apotheon>
. . . and does it still manage installed gems separately for different Ruby versions?
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<havenwood>
apotheon: It's a simpler way to switch Ruby versions. Learning from rbenv and RVM, chruby strove to be the simplest thing that can possibly work. For example, rbenv includes a C extension for realpath: https://github.com/rbenv/rbenv/tree/master/src
<apotheon>
If I'm reading this README correctly, it seems it doesn't require an existing Ruby install to set it up.
<apotheon>
no problems with license compatibility in chruby, too, thank goodness
<havenwood>
MIT FTW
<apotheon>
It's a great license.
<havenwood>
Apache2 keeps growing. Nice too.
<apotheon>
Not so much. AL2 has license incompatibility problems.
<havenwood>
apotheon: What's it incompatible with?
<apotheon>
GPLv2, for instance
<havenwood>
"Despite our best efforts, the FSF has never considered the Apache License to be compatible with GPL version 2, citing the patent termination and indemnification provisions as restrictions not present in the older GPL license."
<havenwood>
I see.
<apotheon>
The fewer things in my sphere that use GPLv2, GPLv3, CDDL, MPL, AL2, and so on, the less I have to worry about compatibility in the rare occasions when I run into something that does use one of those.
<havenwood>
GPLv3 FTW
<apotheon>
nah
<havenwood>
At least GPLv3 and Apache3 are compat.
<apotheon>
GPLv3 is incompatible with GPLv2, as well, and there's a lot of stuff that's only GPLv2.
<havenwood>
Ish
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<apotheon>
. . . but yeah, AL2 and GPLv3 are one-way compatible.
<apotheon>
OpenSSL's license is incompatible with GPLv2 and GPLv3, too, I think.
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<apotheon>
(but not incompatible with AL2, if I recall correctly)
<apotheon>
I just prefer things with copyfree licenses (e.g. MIT), in part so I don't have to worry about it.
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<leitz>
Hey all, be thinking about mentoring. ratah and i chatted a couple days ago; we both think something should be done to help grow people's Ruby skills. Our ideas are different, and that's a good thing. I'm going to have to bail shortly, but tomorrow I'll ask for your ideas on how to use mentoring to help grow the community.
<ewanchic>
leitz: One thing I've been working on is a way to shift interest back to Rails, and hopefully back to ruby. That's what my freight gem is partially about.
<ewanchic>
leitz: I do feel very jaded to RoR. Over there years I've been trying to understand why people moved away from Ruby or Rails for the other languages. And, I still don't quite understand why.
<ratah>
ewanchic: Majority of them haven't even tried Rails
<ratah>
Least not created anything of value
<leitz>
ewanchic, I dislike the perception of "magic" in Rails, though I realize it gives a lot of advantage to people who know it.
<leitz>
But that's the way I look at things, not a Rails specific issue.
<ewanchic>
leitz: I think there is a lot of interest in "simple" and "long-term", yet the whole nodejs is anything but long-term. the languages change so frequently that they are excited about the next 'new' thing instead of the next 'innovative' thing.
<ratah>
Show me what you're able to make
<ratah>
*then* show me why you chose to ditch Rails
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<leitz>
I started playing with Sinatra; it seems to fit my brain and comfort level.
<leitz>
ratah, that's not the best way to go about it; Rails is something to learn. Like Latin, or surf boarding, I'm unlikely to spend time learning it just to prove it's not what I want. I can see that externally, by listening to wiser folks.
<ewanchic>
ratah: I actually started making a 2-multiple way chat program with rails. It was utilizing faye...before it became actioncable. At the end of the day, the head programmer didn't really 'want' to understand it. He wanted to stay with php and Zend. This is after I had a long, open conversation with the writter of Zend, and he admitted there was so much they were behind on in comparison to Rails.
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<leitz>
One of the things about Ruby projects, and it seems Rails even more so, is the number of moving pieces underneath. If you use dozens of gems to build your site, then you're going to spend a lot of time worrying about something big changing underneath.
<ewanchic>
ratah: the head coder explained he rather see 20-30 lines of code rather than wrapping them up into 5 lines in rails.
<ewanchic>
leitz: Yes, I like the magic ;)
<ratah>
leitz: I see where you're coming from. But in our case, the Ruby framework is the least of our concern. The idea, the brand and the underlying Ruby code is much more important imho
<ratah>
Whatever framework we choose is irrelevant as far as I can tell
<ratah>
ewanchic: seen :D
<leitz>
For Ruby mentoring, I agree. I'm rather likely to let you work on the framework on the .com site, that's past my skill level.
<ratah>
ewanchic: truth be told i'm starting to get tired of explaining to php folks why rails is better
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<ewanchic>
ratah: LOL, I actually do! Fun memory! But truth is, Rails is like that again...sorta. It's more like the whole web framework platform is is a mess. That's why I'm creating Freight. I think the we create websites is becoming too un-managable, and it doesn't have too anymore. I like how Ruby took C++ and sent it to the next level...that's how I view Ruby. Machine -> Assembly-> C -> C++ -> Ruby. Now, with frameworks today, it's like the 80-9
<ewanchic>
0s with languages: Basic, Java, Fortran, Pascal, etc. Something needs to be done to streamline this so we can get on to making good websites, upgrade easily, and focus more on innovation. IMHO
<ewanchic>
I'm so pushed into "working" for a living that I struggle to learn and keep up. Im my small realm, there is no time for innovating, and I miss that.
<leitz>
ewanchic, I understand that. I have to code early in the AM, before work, to learn the stuff I'm trying to learn. My work isn't Ruby, sadly.
<ewanchic>
leitz: I feel you man!
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<ewanchic>
I need to talk sometime about the line I need to draw from open sourcing my code to providing a subscription to make money. I want to do both, but I need some advice on where to draw that line.
<ewanchic>
Second would be, how much code to push up publicly before I write tests. I want to re-write my public gem so I can get each test up, to have 100% code coverage. But, doing that might slow me down.
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<leitz>
ewanchic, unless I'm doing a proof of concept, and sometimes even then, I write the tests first. It makes me faster and the code cleaner.
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<ewanchic>
leitz: I'm striving to get to that point. I've been a BDD for 30 years :D
<leitz>
I'll be back in my AM, looking forward to chatting with you all!
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<_phaul>
after TDD and DDD now I'm dying to learn what BDD is :D
<ewanchic>
_paul: Behavior Driven development. Not sure was DDD is ?
<_phaul>
domain
<_phaul>
ah. I see
<ewanchic>
Domain driven development?
<_phaul>
yep
<ewanchic>
design driven development?
<ewanchic>
What?!
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<_phaul>
domain driven development. Don't ask, I haven't taken the courses yet, my colleges did
<_phaul>
colleagues. I can't spell that word apparently
<ewanchic>
_paul: Basically, before TDD, we'd write the code, run, and see if it worked. Most of us would do TDD in our heads, but there was never any way to do TDD. I dreamed about this when I'd watch TNG. But TDD really came out 8 years ago? It's taking hold which is good. But, for those of us with a master whipping us at our backs to work, it's had to convince them to pay us the extra time needed to learn and develop tdd apps.
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<_phaul>
there seems to be an increasing amount of something driven development these days.. I'm not sure if it's more than these consultancy companies trying to make money after the agile lectures tailed down. We will see
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<_phaul>
tdd is good, just accept it doesnt mattter if you have the feature fist (natural way) or the test, and you shoudn't test assigning instance variables ( i have seen in interview candidates tests ). But every obvervable behavoir must be tested. That I agree with
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<_phaul>
I think testing instance variable assignments is a practice that test first brought on us, and it's actually harmful because you test implementation details as opposed to what the thing should do...
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<ewanchic>
_phaul: Do you have any experience with testing singeltons(?) that require a yield?
<ewanchic>
_phaul: I think I can provide you a sample if you're interested.
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<ewanchic>
phaul: Did you catch that?
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<ewanchic>
phaul: Do you have any experience with testing singeltons(?) that require a yield?
<ewanchic>
phaul: I think I can provide you a sample if you're interested.
<phaul>
no, but I caught up on the logs, please share that example
<phaul>
idk. I stand by what I said, I have no idea how this is related. Idk your code, though.
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<phaul>
if you coud break it down, in terms of test first vs test second and how in this example it didn't work.. that woud help
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<ewanchic>
phaul: Hey, I'm back.
<ewanchic>
phaul: This is a gem, and I'm using it as an executable (exe/freight) with the help of Thor CLI.
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<ewanchic>
phaul: So, there is very little code right now, just the gem's framework. under /ib/freight/app/init.rb, I'm testing the header_bar def.
<ewanchic>
phaul: I'm trying to test if simple text is outputed, if it is provided within the yield block. If there is no text, then it should output something else.
<ewanchic>
phaul: sorry, I'm testing the header def, not header_bar. Anyway, I cannot seem to figure out how to test the yield. I keep getting ther error: no block given (yield)
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<ThibG>
jhass, well-spotted, the .message call was indeed somewhere else: in the caught exception class' initializer
<ThibG>
(since we were re-raising the same class, we passed the textual message while it expected an exception object to wrap/copy from)
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