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/buff/buffer punk
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whoopsies
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&>> a = '5657'; b = a; b.gsub!('5', '4'); puts "a = #{a}, b = #{b}"
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crella133 >
Why does <gsub!> method affect 'a' here?
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crella133 >
...... String has :clone method.
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what's your guys' favorite ruby book?
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mynameisbrian >
im reading the "ruby programming language" but it's an old version of ruby, hope it won't be too annoying to catch up
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mynameisbrian: The Well Grounded Rubyist
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luminousnine >
It's more up to speed and goes well into every aspect
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zarkone >
hi everyone! diving into ruby and have some questions about code style. I have some code: `generated_json["endpoint-groups"][0]["endpoints"][0]["pipeline"]["units"].find { |obj| obj["id"] == "endpoint"}["config"]["attributes"]&.find { |obj| obj["name"] == '.status'}&["formula"] or nil
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zarkone >
` which i don't find very attractive :) any suggestions on improving it? 2) why &.find(...) returns `nil`, but &["config"] returns `false` in case of not found? Thanks, hope paste is not too long!
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mynameisbrian >
oh nice, thanks, it was just updated this year too
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No problem
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mynameisbrian: ruby doesn't change as much as your otherlanguages™
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aside from Bignum, stabby operator, lonely operator, new hash literal notation i can't think of anything that has been added
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Bish >
and nothing has been removed
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Bish >
zarkone: maybe .fetch and .first ?
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Bish >
.fetch("endpoint-groups').first.fetch("endpoints").first.fetch("pipeline","units")
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Bish >
fetch does raise if the key is not found
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mynameisbrian >
okay that's good!! im reading "the ruby programming language" so ill prob just stick with that since I already started it. I think it's 1.9
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Bish >
zarkone: or "dig"
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zarkone >
Bish: looks better, thanks! but i want to return nil but not raise
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al2o3-cr >
generated_json.dig('endpoint-groups', 0, 'endpoints', 0, 'pipeline', 'units', ...)
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Bish >
.dig("endpoint-groups",0,"endpoints",0,"pipeline","units")
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al2o3-cr: Bish: oh, cool, thanks!
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will use dig, thank you
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i was about to use something like jsonpath, but dig looks good enough -- without need of introducing anthoer dependency
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ruby is not javascript afterall
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no need to import leftpad :>
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personally i like to convert every key in json to symbols
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Bish >
if you can trust the input enough
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Bish >
(i think there was a DoS issue a while ago)
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don't know if that's still the case
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> ruby is not javascript afterall
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was making fun of their ecosystem more than javascript itself
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i like clojure approach, with keywords as functions
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smth like (-> json :foo :bar (get 0))
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but i've heared in JS they recently introduced smth similar to & operator
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keywords as functions? i don't follow
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Bish >
null safe navigation is not yet in JS, no
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Bish >
atleast not last time i checked, some weeks ago
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Bish >
sure you find some babel transpiler
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yes, i think it just appeared in proposal or smth
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> keywords as functions? i don't follow
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oh.. clojure you mean the language
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i was like clojures in js
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no, not closures :)
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* Bish
didn't even realize those get written differently
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rapha >
say, why does {foo: "bar}.merge({blah: "blubb"}) work fine, but {}.merge({blah: "blubb"}) returns {}?
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oh wait, i'm stupid, i forgot the bang
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al2o3-cr >
rapha: fwiw Hash#update does what Hash#merge! does without having to remember the bang!
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al2o3-cr: is there also some neat way of chaining a delete-replacement and update directly?
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al2o3-cr >
rapha: you can use Object#tap to tap into the method chain.
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al2o3-cr >
&>> {a: 1, b: 2, c: 3}.tap { |h| h.delete(:c) }.update(d: 4)
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al2o3-cr >
&>> {a: 1, b: 2, c: 3}.replace(a: 2, b: 3).update(a: 5, b: 10) { |_k, v1, v2| v1 + v2 }
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rapha >
oh wow, fancy
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rapha >
but me likey
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al2o3-cr: btw, i now also like #update to do "a = {two: 2, three: 3, one: 1}; a = Hash[:one, a.delete(:one)].update(a)" (&>> {one: 1, two: 2, three: 3})
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rapha >
oh wait, i wanna try the bot
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&>> a = {two: 2, three: 3, one: 1}; a = Hash[:one, a.delete(:one)].update(a)
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NL3limin4t0r >
al2o3-cr: I'm not sure if {a: 1, b: 2, c: 3}.replace(a: 2, b: 3) is the best example since the #replace operation isn't really usefull in this context. You could simply use {a: 2, b: 3} instead.
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NL3limin4t0r: i agree, bad example tbh.
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i wish this would work: {hash, **other}
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&>> {foo: :bar, **{baz: :qux}}
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al2o3-cr: That does work, but only for hashes with symbol keys.
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NL3limin4t0r: no, i mean when assigned to variables.
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What assignments would you expect with the above statement then?
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depesz >
is there some kind of neat trick that would automatically create non-existing sub-hashes? something that would let me: o = Hash.some_magic; o["a"]["b"]["c"] = 123; ?
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NL3limin4t0r >
depesz: Yes: hash = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = Hash.new(&hash.default_proc) }
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&>> hash = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = Hash.new(&hash.default_proc) }; hash[:a][:b][:c] = 123; h
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rubydoc >
stderr: -e:4:in `<main>': undefined local variable or method `h' for main:Object (NameError)... check link for more (
https://carc.in/#/r/87hq )
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&>> hash = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = Hash.new(&hash.default_proc) }; hash[:a][:b][:c] = 123; hash
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depesz >
cool. thanks.
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too quick.
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depesz: Note that accessing them without assignment also creates the structure
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&>> hash = Hash.new { |hash, key| hash[key] = Hash.new(&hash.default_proc) }; hash[:a][:b][:c]; hash
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i guess all the slack channels really phased it out in some ways
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NL3limin4t0r: it does work, what was i thinking :?
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Should be doing a lot more writing soon
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Anyone know if any of the core Ruby reference books (O'Reilly's Ruby, the Pickaxe) are going to be updated for Ruby 3-ish?
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baweaver >
Presumably so.
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Though remember that's 1+ years out
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Understood. I had a short e-mail chat with Dave Thomas, and he asked if there was enough market interest. I assured him the "old fat guy learning Ruby because it's so awesome" market was pretty well 100%. :)
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There are several good Ruby book to learn, *cough*, but I like the reference materials in Flanagan's book, and the Pickaxe. Of course, it took me a while to become smart enough to read Flanagan's.
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"to learn from", sorry. Still ill.
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I'll probably be volunteering to help rewrite most of those later.
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So if you want to suggest a writer to them leitz :P
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I haven't bought many programming books in years.
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I have more books than brain cells, I think. I learn best when I start with books, and then have some mentoring along the way.
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