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<baweaver>
Decided to start streaming Ruby on Twitch next weekend: twitch.tv/baweaver
<baweaver>
Likely starting 12pm PST on Saturday covering blocks, procs, and lambdas.
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<skwurl>
hi, could anyone please assist me with this? im stumped. Im having trouble using an instance varaible from one method to populate a database entry in another. here is a codeshare that will hopefully help. https://codeshare.io/G8OY4e
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<baweaver>
skwurl: Because methods and instance variables don't quite work like that
<baweaver>
unless a method is called the instance variables will not be set
<baweaver>
Also that's not really how Rails works, you're supposed to follow REST conventions
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<baweaver>
home might be a main page, you want a resource for characters
<baweaver>
rails g scaffold character name hp:integer
<baweaver>
Though this is also a topic for #RubyOnRails
<baweaver>
That, and avoid cross-posting on channels. It makes it harder to help.
<skwurl>
#RubyOnRails is not very active
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<baweaver>
On the weekends I would expect probably not.
<skwurl>
i see.
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<baweaver>
You might want to run through a Rails tutorial in any case.
<baweaver>
Especially one covering how REST and resources work.
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<skwurl>
ok.
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<skwurl>
like you said i can call the first methods name in the second method and that works. So thank you for your help with that. But thats not how its supposed to work, huh?
<baweaver>
Nope. You should have a resource route for character that takes care of all of this.
<baweaver>
Hence mentioning going back over a Rails tutorial, as this is a fairly early topic and pretty foundational to working with it.
<skwurl>
okay, that actually ends up storing a different random name than the one showing on that view. lol
<baweaver>
Any ideas why that might be happening?
<skwurl>
right on. ill pay close attention to the rest and routing part.
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<baweaver>
If you call a method that has a random output, you're going to get a random output
<baweaver>
if you call it twice, chances are you get two different outputs
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<skwurl>
its happening because the index view is calling the variable from the index controller method, while the save_button view action im tryiong to do is calling it a seperate time
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<skwurl>
yes with a seperate output
<skwurl>
if i do somethign simialr with scaffold i almost have to work backwards becuase i want the fields to be autopopulated without a web fomr on the view.
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<skwurl>
baweaver: Thanks im heading to tutorials now...
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<dionysus69>
Someone from here helped me with this earlier, and I found a glitch with this snippet, can you please help me fix it? the first example here is icorrect and should return 0.0778457 instead of 0.08, the second example is correct. any ideas why there's an exceptional case in first example? https://gist.github.com/webzorg/b4e3d783ea1aa8a37970ecca8f1b43e5
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<Radar>
dionysus69: 2nd example goes to "else" condition of ternary
<Radar>
dionysus69: 1st example goes to "true" condition of ternary
<dionysus69>
yes that much I did test
<dionysus69>
Radar: well, I hope you understand the whole point of this code :) my original aim was to get rid of repeating decimals instead of rounding them to full numbers
<dionysus69>
the fact that the first example goes to the true condition is correct
<dionysus69>
the i variable is incorrect though
<dionysus69>
instead of i being equal to 1, it should be equal to 5 or 6
<dionysus69>
so the problem lays in regex
<dionysus69>
since I am very ignorant at how regex works, I cannot really fix this by myself, I could ask in regex channel but usually you guys also know this much regex just fine :)
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<tbuehlmann>
please don't let these things have to do with money
<dionysus69>
tbuehlmann: what are the other ways of getting rid of repeating decimals then?
<dionysus69>
this is just for frontend btw, for people to see nicely formatted numbers
<dionysus69>
I could just show them 0.08 but it is unprecise compared to what backend will have
<dionysus69>
the difference will be 0.0032...
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<riceandbeans>
if I have a struct and I want to compare it, how can I plug in a key?
<riceandbeans>
One sec, going to pastebin what I mean
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<gheegh>
hey all.. i need some thoughts. I'm trying to dynamically define a class as a child of OpenStruct, if it's not defined. If defined, I want to just use it. Basically, i'm trying to wrap OpenSturct for responses to an API call. I'm getting a nameerror when trying to use my defined class. thoughts on how to do this?
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<jokke>
hi! i'm using anyenv with rbenv on my system and i have a gem that i want to uninstall. This gem provides an executable that is put into rbenv/shims by rbenv. uninstalling it wont' work though. the gem command just doesn't do anything and the gem is still there (and so is the shim also after rehashing)
<jokke>
i also tried this: for version in $(rbenv versions | cut -c3- | awk '{print $1}'); do rbenv shell $version; rbenv exec gem uninstall fogtrack; done
<jokke>
didn't help either
<jokke>
rbenv whence fogtrack tells me 2.3.1
<jokke>
oh now it worked...
<jokke>
weird
<jokke>
well, case closed. Thanks! :)
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<enslavedtuna>
if i have a nested array like, a = ['b',['c','d']], then a[1][0] => 'c', Now if i want to make x = '[1][0]' how do i call a.x => 'c'?
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<apeiros_>
enslavedtuna: those are two consecutive method calls.
<apeiros_>
enslavedtuna: how to do it dynamically would be either a.send("[]", 1).send("[]", 0) or a.send("dig", 1, 0)
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<apeiros_>
of course that means you'd have to process your string first get those 3-4 values out first (method name and arguments)
<enslavedtuna>
i see, so there is no easy way huh
<apeiros_>
depends
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<apeiros>
there's also eval, but should be obvious why I won't recommend that. also I don't know enough of your context. f.ex. does it absolutely have to be a String you start out with?
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<enslavedtuna>
it doesnt have to be a string, i get data out of a nested array one depth at a time and want to save the current position
<enslavedtuna>
so first its a[y] and then x +='[y]' , then a.x[y] and x+='[y]' repeat
<enslavedtuna>
at least that's what i'd hoped to do
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<apeiros>
enslavedtuna: just store the indexes in an array and use dig.
<apeiros>
indices = []; indices << 0; indices << 1; ary.dig(*indices)
<apeiros>
much better than string manipulation to build code.
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<enslavedtuna>
dig looks like exactly what i'm looking for, thanks :)
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<phaul>
hi apeiros, how's it going
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<enslavedtuna>
hey apeiros, sorry if this is dumb but i'm having trouble with dig. a=['b',['c','d']], a.dig(1,1) => d, x = [1,1], a.dig(x) => error
<phaul>
enslavedtuna: you can splat array arguments like if they were given as separate arguments with '*' : a.dig(*x)
<maryo>
Is there a way to install 'therubyracer' gem in windows machine?
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<havenwood>
maryo: You're usually better off just installing Node.js.
<havenwood>
maryo: ^ Whether it's Windows or not.
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<maryo>
havenwood, how to install node.js in windows? Does that comes as a gem?
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<maryo>
Installed the msi for nodejs and I also wanted to install another gem named 'dashing' on my windows box. While installing I am getting an error -> https://dpaste.de/Zmsw
<maryo>
some pointers on the above error would be helpful
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<Inside>
also: I super strongly recommend installing a VM (ie: virtual box) and running your rails dev server from in there. You can setup a shared folder between the guest/host machines and still run your IDE in windows.
<Inside>
I tried the whole develop in windows then deploy to linux thing for a while and it's a really major headache
<Inside>
(case in point: anything involving building native extensions like this)
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<mustmodify>
How do I figure out which characters are represented by \xE2\x80\x90def ?
<mustmodify>
or just...
<mustmodify>
any sequence.
<maryo>
Inside, true. In linux platform it is very easy and in windows its a pain.. But for some reason, I am not able to install virtual box due to internal policy. I having finally installed dashing but unable to start them. Here is the error https://dpaste.de/EcXH Any idea?
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<Inside>
oh hah
<Inside>
I think that's the same error that I got when I just threw my hands up
<Inside>
Do what it says - require em/pure_ruby
<Inside>
I think inside of boot.rb
<Inside>
oh you're not running rails are you
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<jthomas2>
comet23: Ruby is an Object Oriented programming language, so it is "modular" in the sense code is isolated and organized into modular units. Ruby also has the concept of "Modules," which allow you to organized related code.
<Eiam>
comet23: Modular programming has its place, I'm not sure Ruby has any specific spin on the concept of modular programming vs another langauge
<comet23>
thank you so much :)
<jthomas2>
comet23: You should probably just use the standard ruby-docs to get up to speed on what Ruby offers, then come ask a more clear question.
<SeepingN>
yeah no
<comet23>
no what?
<Eiam>
part of what I enjoy about ruby is how little code I often write to accomplish tasks, thus I don't use a lot of modular practices in the type of ruby I write beyond more basic functional composition
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<comet23>
have you heard of the metasploit project?
<SeepingN>
who hasn't
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<comet23>
they have the cleanest code i've ever read
<comet23>
i'm really impressed and i want to write code like that
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<Eiam>
this is drifting into a meta conversation too
<SeepingN>
well if all of your code impressions are from public githubs, that may not be hard to acheive
<Eiam>
Confident Ruby is another good book imo for writing clean, clear code in Ruby
<Eiam>
it really changed the way I thought about my own code
<SeepingN>
o.O
<Eiam>
SeepingN: you don't like confident ruby? =)
<SeepingN>
haven't heard of it. looking
<SeepingN>
cuz my code is trashy and functional
<Eiam>
lol
<Inside>
I'
<SeepingN>
mostly a replacement for shell scripting
<Inside>
I've been spinning my wheels for the last week trying to rewrite this chunk of code
<Eiam>
its good. my team enjoyed it, but maybe they said that cause i sign the checks
<SeepingN>
sometimes for Rails reporting and updating
<Eiam>
SeepingN: I don't use nil to return meaning anymore, I protect my boundaries and declare clear intent
<Inside>
confident ruby/
<zenspider>
"modular programming" is a term from the 70s.
<zenspider>
ala dikstra and folk
<SeepingN>
wow, there's some old refs
<zenspider>
ruby Modules have (roughly) nothing to do with "Modular programming"
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<zenspider>
Inside: what is it?
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<Inside>
I was trying to make a?
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<Inside>
No paperback version of it?
<Inside>
bummer
<Inside>
I can get work to buy me books, but not e-books
<Inside>
:|
<zenspider>
Inside: I meant what code are you spinning on?
<Inside>
zenspider: oh, it's a bit of code which talks to an ERP and then generates a set of work instructions for equipment
<Inside>
based on a magic mixture of things that I feel are important to be listed in the work instructions
<SeepingN>
fun
<Inside>
it works (tm), but most of the rules are hard coded
<Inside>
so I'm trying to move everything to a sort of a configurable interface so other people can maintain this system
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<apeiros>
so yes, this *is* the official irc channel for the ruby programming language :)
<apeiros>
/cc comet23 ^
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<Inside>
ooo lawyered
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<Radar>
Inside: What book doesn't have a paperback version?
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<Eiam>
apeiros: well then! so lawyered =)
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<Eiam>
apeiros: its like how we have #swift-lang and apple won't put a stupid .txt file on the website to make it official, so we are unofficial =)
<Eiam>
Inside: i only have the ebook form of it.
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<zenspider>
Radar: I took it to be confident ruby... amazon seems to agree
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<Radar>
Rightio.
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<baweaver>
Radar: or half of your books :P
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<Eiam>
Inside: its a couple dollars, really need to expense it? =o
<zenspider>
YAY! I think I'm actually done with the graphics gem changes for my talk!
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<Radar>
baweaver: with very good reason ;)
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<baweaver>
zenspider: reformatting everything for 16:9 myself :P
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<Eiam>
self publishing probably easier and faster
<Eiam>
(and cheaper...)
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<zenspider>
baweaver: use that as your default from now on... I haven't seen a 4x3 conf in a very long time. And keynote (probably others) will automatically adjust as best they can.
<Radar>
Eiam: All of these things are true. It's also much easier to update PDFs than to update dead-tree books.
<zenspider>
Eiam: faster. not easier. and less about cheaper as it is about profit
<Radar>
Plus, the "state of the art" in publishers these days is "please write in Microsoft Word"
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<baweaver>
Yeah, lesson learned there.
<Radar>
And "what is Git?" followed by "What do you mean 'Version Control'"?
<zenspider>
hah
<baweaver>
Not too bad so far, and more space for code samples.
<zenspider>
luckily some publishers are more savvy than others... prag for example
<zenspider>
totally... going bigger is always easier than trying to go smaller. I did that once and it sucked
<zenspider>
tho... maybe that should be a signal that I already had too much on a slide?? I'll have to think about that
<baweaver>
ask Radar about his love affair with Manning some time :D
<Radar>
fuck 'em.
<Radar>
re: slides: GO BIG OR GO HOME (or something like that)
<baweaver>
granted, kinda wish NoStarch would move towards markdown.
<Radar>
Zach Holman's minimum font size on his slides is 100pt (iirc)
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* baweaver
looks guiltily at his 48pt code
<Radar>
baweaver: I think code is different. His text is big.
<zenspider>
Radar: I generally agree. I'm a huge fan of Tahakashi method
<Radar>
baweaver: most publishers have low tech savvy and with the tech that they have they're pretty... attached. Better the devil you know.
<Eiam>
well keynote for sure is optimized to be displayable on giant 100 inch or whatever those thigns are
<Eiam>
100 foot? =)
<baweaver>
Speaking of, guess what I'm announcing at RubyConf :D
<zenspider>
Pragprog, learn enough (hartl) are both really streamlined
<Radar>
zenspider: Yeah! Learn Enough is a great approach. I think Hartl's doing really amazing things there.
<Eiam>
baweaver: some weird functional programming shim into ruby ?
<Eiam>
baweaver: Raskell?
<Radar>
^ my guess also
<baweaver>
....
<baweaver>
Speaking of, guess what two things I'm announcing at RubyConf :D
<Radar>
Illustrated Guide to Ruby and Raskell?
<baweaver>
First one is most likely going to happen
<baweaver>
Though there are some talks on the name potentially changing considering they've also published "Ruby Under a Microscope: An Illustrated Guide to Ruby"
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<baweaver>
Thinking about whether or not the name should change.
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<baweaver>
me and havenwood were musing around about "Ruby for Lemurs - An Illustrated Apprenticeship"
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<Cork>
if i have an OpenSSL::BN object (OpenSSL::PKey::EC#private_key), is there a way to recreate the full OpenSSL::PKey::EC object?
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<RedNifre>
What happens when you launch ruby files with the interpreter? Does it parse individual files lazily when it encounters a require? I have a version of my script running and it's currently crawling something, but I'd like to continue working on it... I gues the interpreter doesn't mind if I edit the file since it only reads it once on startup, right?
<Inside>
Yes
<Inside>
as best as I understand it
<RedNifre>
oh, never mind, the crawling just finished :o)
<RedNifre>
But thanks :)
<Inside>
^_~
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