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<baweaver> sparr: well something isn't lining up on there then
<nchambers> like you just pointed out, &: is to operators, & and :some_symbol
<nchambers> which makes a lot more sense now
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<baweaver> and there's not much we can do off of "foo.class" to tell what that may be
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<sparr> are there other tests I can run?
<baweaver> Quite a few
<baweaver> problem is narrowing those down
<baweaver> class might be overridden, is_a? might be overridden, could be a lot of things
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<baweaver> without knowing what foo actually is though it's extremely hard to tell
<baweaver> I'd open up the class and look at it
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<sparr> can you elaborate on that?
<baweaver> Where is foo created? What's the invocation logic?
<baweaver> in Pry you could cd into it and poke around
<baweaver> though you're giving us precious little to work on here.
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<sparr> I can't run the code in question in a useful debug environment like Pry. I'm stuck with being able to see what I can get into a string format to print.
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<baweaver> define "can't"
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<baweaver> What's the environment? What tools are you working with?
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<sparr> foo is the return value of a function call. I am currently trying to find the source for that function.
<sparr> it's puppet :(
<sparr> ?puppet
<ruby[bot]> Please join #puppet for help with it.
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<sparr> the problem is happening in a .erb template, which I have been led to believe is much more real-ruby than the puppet language
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<nchambers> https://github.com/bbatsov/ruby-style-guide#no-then is there any specific reason to omit the if, other than style?
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<baweaver> sparr: puppet is its own mix of fun
<baweaver> that said, remote_pry is probably your best bet to getting things out of it
<baweaver> also reading the puppet docs for what the things return. It's probably some heavily mutated form of Hash like a Mash that does some really nasty stuff behind the scenes
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<baweaver> nchambers: omit the if?
<nchambers> erm, omit the then
<sparr> the function here is hiera_hash()
<sparr> it's supposed to return a real honest to god hash
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<baweaver> nchambers Why type more than you have to?
<nchambers> baweaver: habit mostly
<baweaver> basically it's redundant, kinda like semicolons
<nchambers> makes sense
<baweaver> I've yet to see an established rubyist use it in code
<baweaver> so you can, though it's very uncommon and kinda silly to use
<nchambers> thats what i figured, i just wanted to make sure
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<nchambers> (im perfectly fine with following standard established practices, just curious as to the reasoning)
<baweaver> yeah, they screw with hashes somehow
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<baweaver> yeah, not a hash, looks like some seriously screwed hierarchical monster they invented instead
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<baweaver> All that said, you'll find this is a bad channel to ask puppet questions in
<baweaver> Not because we don't want to help but because most of us have no idea how it works behind the scenes and it's a very specialized environment
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<conceivably> Is there a more idiomatic/Ruby-esque way of finding the last element of an array for which a given block returns true, other than reversing the array and using find?
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<baweaver> conceivably: reverse_each.find
<baweaver> >> [1,2,3,4,5].reverse_each.find(&:even?)
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => 4 (https://eval.in/946693)
<baweaver> >> [1,2,3,4,5].reverse_each
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => #<Enumerator: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]:reverse_each> (https://eval.in/946694)
<baweaver> Enumerators are useful for that
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<conceivably> Ah neat, thank you baweaver.
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<baweaver> >>require'benchmark';a=[1,2,3,4,5];{rev:Benchmark.measure{100_000.times{a.reverse.find(&:even?)}}.real,rev_each:Benchmark.measure{100_000.times{a.reverse_each.find(&:even?)}}.real}
<ruby[bot]> baweaver: # => {:rev=>0.24323931336402893, :rev_each=>0.22402815520763397} (https://eval.in/946695)
<baweaver> conceivably: reverse_each is a hair faster as well
<conceivably> Great, I was just about to ask whether one of them might be preferable for other reasons, since readability-wise they are more or less on par.
<conceivably> Cool, thanks for sharing :)
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<kapil___> I want to access @a and @b in SomeClass .but I cant please help a solution
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<baweaver> Why are you nesting classes?
<baweaver> and what's the real code?
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<kapil___> because the SomeClass is in seperate file.
<baweaver> SomeClass is in the middle of the parent class
<kapil___> this is same like real code. if i gist it its so confusing nad big
<baweaver> often times you say that but it turns out to not be
<baweaver> what is it you're trying to do?
<baweaver> Also you should really avoid state in your functions. Do not set instance variables in one function to be used in another
<baweaver> This makes it very hard to properly track and test
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<baweaver> Remember that bit about separation of concerns a while ago?
<baweaver> Keep this rule in mind: Your Rails application knows nothing about your Javascript React application, and conversely your Javascript React application knows nothing about your Rails application
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<baweaver> If I had to guess you're still trying to make tables for all your models
<kapil___> yes i remember thanks. but how i access ParentClass methods in subclass in my situation.
<baweaver> and now for some reason you've added GraphQL into the mix.
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<kapil___> baweaver: i am generating react pages from all models.
<baweaver> Step back for a second, because this is a very hairy solution
<baweaver> You want tables for all of your Rails models
<baweaver> Does this seem like the simplest way to do that?
<baweaver> Also don't use GraphQL, you're overcomplicating things by adding more into the mix
<kapil___> i am doing it because i have so many pages(models)
<baweaver> Rails renders JSON, React consumes JSON
<baweaver> How many do you have?
<kapil___> baweaver: do i generate pages in node.js generators?
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<kapil___> about 40
<baweaver> You could, but there are simpler solutions to this
<baweaver> The next question: do you absolutely need to display all 40 models?
<baweaver> Is that the best way to present this data?
<kapil___> baweaver: yes its only its CRUD tables
<baweaver> The answer is likely no, you only need pieces of each model for certain pages
<baweaver> what is the purpose of your application?
<kapil___> its data entry (account type) application for jewelry manufacturing
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<baweaver> and every single one of these needs to have a table?
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<baweaver> Why can you not just use Rails?
<baweaver> Why React?
<baweaver> With Rails it would generate all of this code for you by default
<kapil___> every single page has about 5 sub pages.
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<baweaver> what makes a sub page?
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<baweaver> and why do they need sub pages?
<kapil___> its new edit preview actions and one is for main table
<baweaver> Rails literally generates all of that for you
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<baweaver> rails scaffold model name:string number:integer date:datetime
<baweaver> Scaffolds do all of that
<kapil___> rails generate simple pages i need advance so i am using react
<baweaver> you don't need React
<baweaver> you don't need React
<baweaver> you don't need React
<baweaver> Use Rails, that's all you need for this.
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<baweaver> and I'm not answering PMs
<baweaver> Why do you think you need more advanced pages? What does Rails not do that you need React for?
<kapil___> coffiscript i have to write very low level
<baweaver> coffeescript is just a javascript derivative language
<baweaver> you can do Javascript in Rails
<baweaver> what do you mean by low level?
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<kapil___> when one input change i need to recalculate other fields. and so much logics. i make this application in rails only. it was a pain. then i moved to react.
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<baweaver> and this isn't a pain?
<baweaver> You can use jQuery for that easily.
<kapil___> baweaver: this is too a pain :(
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<baweaver> Move back to just Rails, use jQuery for it
<baweaver> what you're doing is overkill for a CRUD application
<baweaver> what calculations do you need to do?
<kapil___> now i so much time invested i cannot simple move back
<baweaver> sunk cost fallacy, yes you can
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<baweaver> you're not going to make any progress like this if you need to ask questions every few hours for things that are mostly self inflicted
<baweaver> I know I come across as harsh on this but you're going to go off a cliff at this rate
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<kapil___> baweaver: i will take consideration. but now i am at a stage. i cant move. can you show me actual solution to above question. its totally wrong??
<baweaver> Do the simplest possible thing that works first. Adding React and GraphQL is not the simple thing
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<baweaver> When a building is about to implode and a door won't close because of it you don't try and fix the door
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<baweaver> you're going to keep coming back to that stage of being stuck like this on a very bespoke solution until no one can really help you anymore
<baweaver> or, more likely, people ignore your questions
<kapil___> baweaver: thanks for a example.
<kapil___> i will rethink all again.
<baweaver> The only reason I'm going off on you for this is that I know it's already starting to happen and it's only going to get worse if you keep going that way
<kapil___> yes thanks i will fix it.
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<za1b1tsu> I dont get why this does not change x = 1; x.tap { |x| x = 3 }
<apeiros> because the x in the block is a block-local x, shadowing the outer x
<apeiros> change it to x.tap { |y| x = 3 } and x will be affected again
<za1b1tsu> cheers apeiros
<za1b1tsu> is this a code smells klass.tap { klass.where(filters) if filters.any? } ?
<Radar> if you feel like you have to ask that question...
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<apeiros> za1b1tsu: it probably won't do what you expect it to do
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<apeiros> assuming this is rails (which means you really should go over to #rubyonrails), then klass.where does NOT mutate klass.
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<apeiros> in other words, that whole tap is a big no-op.
<Burgestrand> It's good for heating up the room a little extra if it's cold where you have your dev machine
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<apeiros> Burgestrand: hm, I think mine barely produces more than 30W on average. which means I'm the better heater :(
<Burgestrand> apeiros yes but which one is cheaper to run? I think we're obsolete
<apeiros> s'true
<apeiros> ttl 30y, then ai takeover.
<Burgestrand> Maybe some of the older more human-friendly computers tried to tell us something with about the year 2038
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<dminuoso> za1b1tsu: That behavior you just mentioned is called call by sharing.
<dminuoso> It's how Ruby is not call by reference.
<dminuoso> You can think of variables as pointers. Assignment changes the pointer, but any modification happens through dereferencing.
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<konos5> Hi, can somebody explain to me where #Kernel fits into the ruby object model?
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<Burgestrand> >> Kernel.class
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => Module (https://eval.in/947061)
<Burgestrand> >> self.class.ancestors
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => [Object, Kernel, BasicObject] (https://eval.in/947062)
<Burgestrand> >> String.ancestors
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => [String, Comparable, Object, Kernel, BasicObject] (https://eval.in/947064)
<Burgestrand> Dang, should've been…
<Burgestrand> >> Object.ancestors
<apeiros> konos5: note that by saying '#Kernel', you say "instance method Kernel", no such thing exists.
<Burgestrand> Maybe ruby[bot] considers me a flooder now :(
<apeiros> konos5: Kernel provides "pseudo global pseudo functions"
<konos5> Assuming `Object` includes `Kernel`, shouldn't `#Kernel` be `#Object`'s superclass?
<Burgestrand> >> Object.ancestors
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => [Object, Kernel, BasicObject] (https://eval.in/947065)
<apeiros> global because they're virtually everywhere accessible
<Burgestrand> \o/
<apeiros> functions because they make no use of self
<apeiros> and pseudo because both really doesn't exist in ruby. it just looks as if.
<konos5> Assuming #Kernel is the singleton class of Kernel
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<apeiros> ruby's root level is cheating somewhat
<apeiros> which leads to it not being entirely consistent with how classes implemented in plain ruby behave wrt ancestry.
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<Burgestrand> >> Kernel.class.include?(Kernel)
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => true (https://eval.in/947071)
<Burgestrand> o,O
<apeiros> also Kernel does not inherit from anything. modules can't inherit. so no. Kernel.singleton_class should not be < Object.singleton_class
<apeiros> (so even with the cheating taken into consideration that statement is false)
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<konos5> Object.singleton_class should probably inherit from Kernal.singleton_class I think...
<apeiros> neither that. while inclusion means it ends up in the ancestry, it's not inheriting.
<Burgestrand> Well, Object.singleton_class is a class, and a class is an object, and Object's ancestry chain contains Kernel
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<apeiros> some_class.singleton_class < some_class.superclass.singleton_class
<apeiros> but not necessarily some_class.singleton_class < some_class.ancestors[1].singleton_class
<konos5> fine
<apeiros> (superclass.class is always Class, .ancestors[1…].class can be Module)
<konos5> let me put it this way
<konos5> `Object.singleton_class.superclass` returns `#<Class:BasicObject>`. However I believe it should be `Kernel.singleton_class` since `Object` includes `Kernel`. Why isn't it so?
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<apeiros> I just told you
<za1b1tsu> I'm using pry as a breakpoint in rspec test, how can I continue the test?
<konos5> "3:20 PM <apeiros> but not necessarily some_class.singleton_class < some_class.ancestors[1].singleton_class". Fine. Why?
<konos5> According to the ruby object model this should always be the case
<za1b1tsu> or I am using it wrong?
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<konos5> @apeiros Are you suggesting that by using inclusion instead of subclassing (which we can't use in Modules anyway) the inheritance tree only holds up to ancestors[0]?
<apeiros> konos5: klass.ancestors[0] == klass, so yes, this part always holds up :-p
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<Burgestrand> >> String.singleton_class < BasicObject.singleton_class
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => true (https://eval.in/947076)
<apeiros> konos5: as I said just a couple of lines before: only *subclassing* matters. *not* inclusion. inclusion changes the ancestry, but *not* superclass.
<Burgestrand> I guess forall X.ancestors where ancestor is a Class then it holds that X.singleton_class < ancestor.singleton_class, right?
<apeiros> >> module M; end; class A; end; class B < A; include M; end; [B.superclass, B.ancestors]
<ruby[bot]> apeiros: # => [A, [B, M, A, Object, Kernel, BasicObject]] (https://eval.in/947077)
<apeiros> konos5: ^ as you can see, B.superclass is NOT M
<apeiros> and "according to *the* ruby object model" - what are you referencing there? reading the ISO standard?
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<apeiros> Burgestrand: yes (apart from said inconsistencies in the root level), it should hold that X.singleton_class < X.ancestors[1..-1].find { |c| c.instance_of?(Class) }.singleton_class
<apeiros> 1..-1 since 0 is X itself
<Burgestrand> apeiros .find or .sample? :d
<apeiros> actually all?
<Burgestrand> apeiros all classes, aye
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<apeiros> would have to rephrase the code of course :)
<Burgestrand> >> String.ancestors.all? { |ancestor| (ancestor.is_a?(Class) && String.singleton_class < ancestor.singleton_class) || true }
<apeiros> so: X.ancestors.grep(Class).map(&:singleton_class).each_cons(2).all? { |a,b| a < b }
<ruby[bot]> Burgestrand: # => true (https://eval.in/947084)
<Burgestrand> hehe :)
<apeiros> oh, good, can't subclass Class. so .is_a? and === should be sufficient.
<apeiros> (can subclass Module, which is actually fun)
<apeiros> well, good for this illustration. maybe subclassing Class would be fun too.
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<konos5> apeiros: you said that "konos5: ^ as you can see, B.superclass is NOT M"
<konos5> you probably meant: `B.singleton_class.superclass` is NOT M
<konos5> is that corrent?
<apeiros> no
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<konos5> B.superclass was gonna be A anyway
<apeiros> "anyway", yes. yet it seems to be the point you're stumbling over
<konos5> I guess so
<konos5> I mean I get it
<konos5> I see the output
<konos5> including doesn't change the "superclass" links
<konos5> only ancestry
<konos5> I get it
<konos5> However I still don't understand why...
<konos5> maybe because `include` is not `<`
<apeiros> yes, because including is is not inheriting.
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<konos5> oh yeah
<konos5> I also get why you said `B.superclass`
<konos5> makes sense now
<apeiros> (which I think I said before too ;-p)
<konos5> you meant to prove that superclass won't change
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<apeiros> it is "kind of" inheriting, which is probably where your expectation stems from.
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<apeiros> correct
<konos5> exactly. you told me already however my mind wan't ready to digest that info
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<apeiros> ancestors will gain all modules you include between B and A, but B.superclass remains A.
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<konos5> true. everything is much more clear now
<konos5> Thank you
<apeiros> you're welcome
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<SebastianThorn> possible to use net/http/digest_auth with a POST, cant find any examples. or does it only work with GET?
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<flujan> hi guys, I need to create a webservice server so a customer can input data. Which gem do you recommend? I am looking at wash_out and soap4r.
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<SebastianThorn> flujan: needs to be soap?
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<flujan> SebastianThorn: unfortunately yes. :(
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<SebastianThorn> i always end up pulling my hair working with soap
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<nchambers> SebastianThorn: maybe if you used more soap your hair wouldn't come out
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<llua> :/
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<graft> hmm, so using bundler, my Gemfile.lock contains :development group dependencies
<graft> is there a way to get Gemfile.lock to respect install groups?
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<nchambers> I just got the following line from rubocop: "C: Style/Documentation: Missing top-level class documentation comment.". I'd like to fix this to ensure best practices, but I'm not sure what it means. Does anyone have a thing that describes such comments?
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<nchambers> thanks!
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<guacamole> np!
<snath> Any suggestion on how to install ruby > 2.0 on CentOS 5? The why is a long story
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<SebastianThorn> rbenv?
<snath> I don't need multiple version
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<SebastianThorn> snath ?
<SebastianThorn> i just install rbenv to get latest most often, but sometimes i dont wanna upgrade to latest
<miah> snath: even if you dont need multiple versions, ruby-install/chruby, rbevn, rvm, are allw ays to get you a 2.0 onto CentOS 5
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<miah> we had a system where we'd build using ruby-install, create a tarball, and install _that_ onto our systems
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<miah> so rbenv didnt have to compile/download, just used the version we'd packaged
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<anjen> Hi folks... Not directly ruby, but related. Is there a command like 'gem list' that will return a listing of the installed gems *and their dependencies? I recall using something that produces that output a long time ago, but I can't remember how I did it.
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<gizmore|2> @ anjen
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<anjen> thanks gizmore|2 :)
<gizmore> not sure if you mean bundled gems for an app
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<gizmore> this would be another cmd
<anjen> yeah actually that's the case.
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<yottanami> I am trying to parse a CVS file using ```csv_text = File.read('filialstamm.csv', :encoding => 'ISO-8859-1', :row_sep => :auto, :col_sep => ';')``` but I got this error http://dpaste.com/1KXE08F
<yottanami> how should I fix it?
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<miah> if you install gems via bundler, you can do like 'bundler viz'; http://bundler.io/v1.5/bundle_viz.html
<miah> this will give you a nice graphic showing dependencies
<miah> if you have a ton of gems it can be somewhat unreadable =)
<miah> otherwise your Gemfile.lock has many of these details
<miah> as far as system gems.. this is more fun. you should be using bundler =)
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<hays> I want a particular .json file to be loaded into memory when I require a file. what's the right way to do this?
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<hays> right now im using a module_function and it seems like I can't get to the right path within the gem
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<havenwood> hays: It sounds to me like you could use a Singleton Class, which works great with defining how to serialize and deserialize.
<catphish> does anyone know what web servers implement the rack socket hijacking API?
<hays> basically im just trying to make it so that when a certain thing is required, it puts a variable in a namespace with certain information
<havenwood> catphish: Puma, Unicorn, Passenger, etc.
<hays> and that information gets loaded from a .JSON file
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<havenwood> &ri Singleton
<catphish> havenwood: ah cool, shouldn't be a problem then
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<havenwood> hays: Look at the dump and load examples in the Singleton docs. You can do it with JSON instead of Marshal if that's your cup of tea.
<catphish> i was considering using rack socket hijacking to implement websocket, but i'm concerned that it may not be practical because every websocket client will need to consume a thread from the server, most of which have a small fixed thread limit
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<hays> havenwood: i'll take a look. I don't immediately understand the sample code. If I do require 'gem/special_data' I want to be able to do Gem.SpecialData or Gem::SpecialData and have it show me the data
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<nchambers> is there something like Hash.clone but copies all of its members as well? for example if I have `myhash = { :foo => [1,2,3,4] }` and `newhash = myhash.clone`, newhash and myhash still refer to the same list
<nchambers> is there a way to get a complete separate copy?
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<xcyclist_> I'm looking to try one or two of the latest simple graph/plotting packages, and I tried installing rmagick and gruff and got errors.
<xcyclist_> ERROR: Error installing rmagick: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
<miah> you probably need to install the rmagick development packages, libraries, headers and whatnot
<xcyclist_> Ok. My ubuntu apt install, or gem installs?
<miah> apt
<xcyclist_> I have Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS \n \l
<miah> whenever you see errors about 'native extensions' that probably means your missing some system lib/header
<miah> probably something like `sudo apt-get install imagemagick libmagickwand-dev`
<miah> googling 'rmagic ubuntu ruby' and you'll probably find the right magic combination
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<xcyclist> Sorry. I got cut off after doing a software update.
<xcyclist> I am still looking for suggestions of ruby plotting or graphing software besides gruff. I'd like to play with at least two different choices and up to 5.
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<meesles> data visualization seems to be what you want
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<catphish> what's the most efficient way to maintain an array containing only the last n items added to it?
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<catphish> maybe: array.shift(array.size - MAX_SIZE) ?
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<catphish> i'll go with the shift :)
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