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<dogweather> Has anyone made a way to run a function on an object, but in dot-form? I.e., reversing the invocation order? This could be really useful, and simple to make, i think:
<dogweather> say i've made an array function, #all_but_last(an_array) ...
<dogweather> it'd be cool to add just one new method to Array that'd allow it to run in dot form: `some_array.f(&:all_but_last)`
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<Radar> all_by_last(an_array) is by far a simpler syntax.
<dogweather> I.e., like #map, but passes the entire object to the block. The advantage is that this could be used in a chain of array method calls
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<Radar> dogweather: real example of usage please. I am not convinced yet.
<dogweather> :-)
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<dogweather> This is a tiny example - it made me think that this could be a decent pattern; open up Array to add just one new function, #f.
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<Radar> Still very much not convinced.
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<Radar> all_but_last(a).map { |l| anchor(l) }.push(final_list_item(links))
<dogweather> I like for a chunk of code to read all in the same direction
<Radar> Have you heard about Lisp?
<dogweather> Heh
<Radar> Sounds like you want that sort of correctness.
<dogweather> I'm doing Railway-oriented programming when I can
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<dogweather> Radar: Ah hah! Isn't my #f exactly Object#tap ? Check mate
<Radar> Nope.
<Radar> Try it :)
<dogweather> Oh, #tap mutates the object and returns the original instance?
<Radar> [11:40:44] <Radar>Try it :)
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<Radar> As long as you're not doing something like defining your all_but_last on the main context, what you're suggesting won't work.
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<zenspider> still haven't looked at F#...
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<zenspider> dogweather: isn't that #send? some_array.f(&:all_but_last) -> some_array.send(:all_but_last)
<Radar> zenspider: all_but_last takes an arg which is an array
<Radar> The method isn't defined on the Array class and so send won't work?
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<zenspider> well... I was assuming he was adding onto Array... but otherwise it could be instance_eval. not a good idea either way. there are better ways to do composability
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<zenspider> btw... for this case, activesupport just does: "#{self[0...-1].join(options[:words_connector])}#{options[:last_word_connector]}#{self[-1]}"
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<zenspider> not that that is the point, but sometimes you should just stay straightforward
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<markholmes> does ruby have a good way to do multi-line strings?
<lupine> <<EOS.....EOS
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<markholmes> interesting
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<baweaver> zenspider: Basically OCaml. I prefer the SML approach to it (scala) but that may just be me
<baweaver> Well, more accurately OCaml.NET
<baweaver> Dot Net and the JVM both tried to get solid functional languages. Dot net took a lot of reference from OCaml and JVM took a lot from SML.
<baweaver> enough so that they're almost interchangeable. Moreso than Python to Ruby and Java to C#
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<markholmes> i don't know how to phrase my question, so i'm gonna start talking and maybe someone can guide me. i have a 16-bit number (1010101011111111) that i'm trying to l-r swap, basically such that 1010101011111111 becomes 1111111110101010
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<markholmes> but in my lrswap, if i don't call (msb | lsb).to_s(2), aka if i return the decimal, i get 255.
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<markholmes> oh... i understand what's happening.
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<markholmes> long story short, i was bitwise or-ing 11111111 and 10101010, when what i wanted to do was or 1111111100000000 and 0000000010101010
<markholmes> i feel like we all solved this problem collectively, so thanks everyone
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<eam> markholmes: we're happy to rubber-duck for you
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* markholmes nods
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<baweaver> We're all quacks here
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<warrshrike> hey fellas
<warrshrike> I'm here to bug you yet again
<warrshrike> so i need to download 7000 files from a websites by individually searching for them and clicking the dl button
<warrshrike> whats the best way to write a ruby crawler for this?
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<warrshrike> any1?
<warrshrike> apeiros:
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<frerich> Hi all! Would this be an appropriate place to ask questions regarding building the Ruby interpreter on Windows? I'd like to embed the Ruby interpreter into a program built with Visual Studio, so I cannot use the MinGW builds which are readily available.
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<frerich> Hence, I'm building Ruby 2.2.2 using Visual Studio - which works, except that I can't seem to make the build system pick up OpenSSL. Does anybody have some clue about this stuff?
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<Burgestrand> frerich I have no clue regarding this (whatsoever). However, perhaps the RubyInstaller-involved people might know something? https://github.com/oneclick/rubyinstaller/wiki/Community
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<Burgestrand> frerich e.g. the mailing list. It's not directly related to the RubyInstaller so it might be a bit off-topic, but I figured the people there probably know a lot about ruby on windows.
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<frerich> Burgestrand: Thanks! Will have a look!
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<Silthias1> Stupid question this may be, but is there a simple way of doing a 'sed' replacement in ruby on a file, eg changing a hashed password in /etc/shadow? I'd like to keep everything in ruby rather than an external system call
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<apeiros> Silthias1: depends. sed is a powerful tool and there's no 1:1 method doing everything sed can do.
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<apeiros> something akin `File.write(path, File.read(path).gsub(…))` might do what you need
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<Silthias1> thanks, I'll have a look at that approach then. n
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<Silthias1> @apeiros: Thanks that seems to have done exactly what I needed.
<apeiros> yw
<apeiros> btw.: no @ required in irc ;-)
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<Silthias1> old habits :)
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<ruby-lang445> after learning ruby, should i start learning rails and build web apps?
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<ruby-lang445> or build ruby application
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<tobiasvl> ruby-lang445: depends what you want do do…
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<ruby-lang445> @tobiasvl my objective to build web apps though
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<tobiasvl> in rails?
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<ruby-lang445> haha yup
<ruby-lang445> i finished buidling 1 project for ruby though
<ruby-lang445> my personal game
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<tobiasvl> well if you want to build web apps in rails I would advise you to learn rails :P
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<herwin> tobiasvl: you genius ;)
<ruby-lang445> yup im learning rails soon
<midacts> Do you guys know of the best gem to use to talk to MSSQL servers using ruby? I'm guessing odbc might be the best option
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<herwin> altough I don't think there really is a point that you could define as "after learning ruby", there's always more to learn
<ruby-lang445> oh kk
<ruby-lang445> i was thinking building web apps is better than ruby application
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<ruby-lang445> @tobiasvl should i continue building ruby application or start learning rails ?
<tobiasvl> I have no idea why you are asking this
<tobiasvl> if you want to learn rails, why not learn rails?
<ruby-lang445> maybe become a good in ruby first?
<ruby-lang445> haha
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<tobiasvl> sure, but I have no idea what your level is or what level you want to be at in ruby before you try rails
<ruby-lang445> to become the best ruby developer
<ruby-lang445> joking
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<ruler> u made a web app without rails. thats good enough. just learn rails. use less gems, more hard coding for starters
<ruler> especially devise :)
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<kikadisa> Hello
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<kikadisa> If i decide to plit my code in ultiple file
<kikadisa> should i add a sha bang (#!/usr/bin/ruby) in each file ?
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<apeiros> kikadisa: no
<apeiros> the shebang is only for the executable
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<kikadisa> ok
<kikadisa> thanks
<apeiros> and it's "shebang", not "sha bang" ;-)
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<kikadisa> thanks apeiros for everything including the shebang (pardon my french ;) )
<apeiros> yw
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<jokke> hi
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<jokke> i'm using the json-schema gem to.. well, validate json :)
<jokke> it doesn't seem to respect the required field
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<jokke> i get the following error: The property '#/data/attributes' did not contain a required property of 'energy'
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<jokke> and this is the json schema: https://p.jreinert.com/JnXQ/
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<jokke> maybe someone here has used the gem and knows what's going on? :)
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<apeiros> jokke: the information provided are rather vague
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<jokke> hm sorry, what did i miss?
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<apeiros> a reproducible example would be a start
<jokke> you're right
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<jokke> oh
<jokke> ooh
<jokke> strict is a problem
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<jokke> with the `:strict` option, all properties are condisidered to have `"required": true` and all objects `"additionalProperties": false`with the `:strict` option, all properties are condisidered to have `"required": true` and all objects `"additionalProperties": false`
<jokke> ups
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<jokke> so my bad for not reading the docs :)
* herwin quacks like a rubber duck
<jokke> i would hope there was something that let me set additionalProperties to false for all objects..
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<kikadisa> Hey
<kikadisa> If i split my code in some files
<kikadisa> where should i mention my requirements ?
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<kikadisa> I use some gem especially mysql
<kikadisa> i should let it in my program
<kikadisa> not in a class specific rregarding mysql function ?
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<toretore> kikadisa: do you mean where you should put your `require` calls?
<toretore> you should `require` everything that is used inside a file in that file
<Yxhuvud> or if you use bundler, require all gems in the Gemfile.
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<apeiros> kikadisa: you might do well to just make your code a gem
<apeiros> note: you don't have to publish your gem
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<kikadisa> o
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<kikadisa> apeiros: in fact it's just a script which grab some information and trasnform them for occasional uses
<kikadisa> i split my code in multiple file
<kikadisa> in my main file i add require_relative to this file
<apeiros> kikadisa: yet you are solving all the things again which making it a gem solves.
<kikadisa> but one of this script use mysql gem
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<kikadisa> should i put require mysql in my main program or in my file
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<apeiros> require statements belong into the file where you make use of the dependency
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<kikadisa> ok apeiros that's clear
<kikadisa> Thanks you everyone even toretore & Yxhuvud
<kikadisa> Bye
* kikadisa Tchô à la prochaine !
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<baweaver> Mon français n'est pas bon, mais amusez-vous
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<sheepman> anyone got any tips of a lightweight insecure hash function to use in Ruby? I'm using SHA256 but its way overkill currently so after something lighter :)
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<dminuoso> sheepman: What kind of hash are you looking for? Whats its purpose?
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<dminuoso> sheepman: What characteristics do you require of it? What kind of data do you have?
<sheepman> im basically using it to just create a unique ID based on a few strings
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<sheepman> i could concat all the strings together but it looks ugly
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<dminuoso> sheepman: so you cant have collisions at all?
<apeiros> sheepman: does it have to be repeatable across processes/runs?
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<sheepman> no collisions and yes repeatable
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<dminuoso> sheepman: is it fine if hashes get reassigned?
<dminuoso> sheepman: or do you need the mapping to be persisted and permanent?
<sheepman> reassigned is ok i guess
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<sheepman> i may just stick with sha256 tbh as the performance is killing it just seems way too much
<sheepman> i kinda need a sha32 or something lol
<dminuoso> sheepman: You either require a perfect hashing function, or a way to resolve collisions (such as cuckoo hashing).
<sheepman> just need something one way i guess
<dminuoso> Or enough entropy that collisions become unlikely, but you don't get well distributed hash functions outside cryptographic hashing functions.
<baweaver> get_me_a_hash until all_hashes doesn't include that hash
<dminuoso> sheepman: Look into the Pearson hash function.
<sheepman> ok
<sheepman> thanks all
<dminuoso> Just as a random thing.
<dminuoso> There's so many hash functions around.. :S
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<sheepman> yeah this is it, wasn't sure whats "light" as such
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<apeiros> if by "light" you refer to cpu load, something like md5 or sha256 which have wide hardware support might actually be better than a simpler algorithm which doesn't
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<havenwood> sheepman: What are the shortcomings for SHA256 in your use case? Is it related to speed, memory, output size, or just general feeling?
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<havenwood> Use SHA3 since it's one better than SHA2. :-P
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<qswz> Hello, someone ever tried to install Discourse on heroku?
<qswz> it doesn't look really from what I see
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<qswz> ohh thx, missed this
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<alibby> Never done it, but just happened upon that.
<alibby> I kinda doubt you need all of the addons, librato in particular.
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<qswz> ok, noted
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<Norm> I’ve got a binary string whose .length == 19. But when I write it to a file with .write(string), it says it wrote 20 bytes. Any idea where the discrepency is coming from?
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<toretore> Norm: gist?
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<Norm> Coming right up
<havenwood> Norm: Just to sanity check, is the #bytesize the same?
<toretore> ^
<Norm> ooh, bytesize is 20, good call
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<Norm> let me finish this gist, you can probably point me toward the solution
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<Norm> i might have stumbled my way through it, thanks for the pointer though
<toretore> at the very least, your "binary string" should be tagged as such, which is isn't if size != bytesize
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<Norm> tagged, how so?
<toretore> with the correct encoding
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<toretore> the reason size != bytesize is because it tries to parse multiple bytes as one character
<Norm> right
<Norm> it seems to be sitting at UTF-8 now
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<starkus> what encoding is used by default when running Digest::MD5.digest(string). it's not hex or base64, and isn't mentioned anywhere afaict.
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<havenwood> >> require 'digest/md5'; Digest::MD5.digest('').encoding # starkus
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => #<Encoding:ASCII-8BIT> (https://eval.in/718526)
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<havenwood> starkus: It's a 16-byte String, from null byte zero up to two-hundred and fifty five.
<havenwood> >> require 'digest/md5'; Digest::MD5.digest('').bytes # starkus
<ruby[bot]> havenwood: # => [212, 29, 140, 217, 143, 0, 178, 4, 233, 128, 9, 152, 236, 248, 66, 126] (https://eval.in/718534)
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<sonOfRa> Also, just for the sake of everyone using your software: There's really no good reason to use MD5 for anything when writing new software
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<Shiro> H-hi there!
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<Guest98694> I'm trying to learn Ruby using Code Academy, and so far it's been great, but I am currently confused as to what Yield does. Could someone explain it to me? @_@
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<icalo> hi everyone. I have a style question. should I add all my ‘require’ in a single file, or is it better that each file had its own ‘require’ ?
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<baweaver> though the danger there is that they reference a for ... in loop in ruby which is never used. Use each instead
<baweaver> &ri Enumerable#each
<`derpy> No results
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<baweaver> &ri Array#each
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<baweaver> icalo: typically ruby people put them in one file
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<icalo> baweaver: doesnt this blows up when the project has several dependencies? And if I want reuse one class I cannot just copy the file into a different project. Sounds strange. Do you know why the “one file” approach is preferred?
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<Guest98694> baweaver: Thank you for your link. I think I understand what yield is now
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