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<xall>
i refactored 'replace conditional with polymorphism'. i moved the existing tests to relevant subclass specs. i'm wondering what i should test in the parent class now that everything has been moved out. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/127886bdbd8029657466452a9c3d417c
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<gizmore>
xall: usually you test the classes public methods
<xall>
gizmore: i guess i mean since the method now just delegates to the subclasses
<elomatreb>
xall: If you change the file extension of that gist to .diff you'll get working syntax highlighting btw
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<xall>
nm. i understand why that was a silly question
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<scres>
hello. can anyone recommend some good resources for learning ruby? i'm already an experienced programmer in python and php, looking to fast-track some ruby experience
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<baweaver>
Eloquent Ruby or learnxinyminutes for the super fast.
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<zotherstupidguy>
whats a common straightforward way for ensuring that if class B inherits from class A, then objects instantiated from class B must have their own implmentations of :method_a, :method_b, etc.?
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<hanmac>
zotherstupidguy: hm ruby does not have such thing as virtual methods (per se) ... i think the most easy ways are doing respond_to? checks or have it crash into a NoMethodError
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<zotherstupidguy>
hanmac the thing is i remmber doing this before, but i can't recall how i did it! but there is a way i am sure. how would you do the respond_to? ?
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<hanmac>
zotherstupidguy: you can do in initialize of the Parent A to check if the instance does "respond_to? :method_a" ... but thats not perfect because it prevent to define the method in the object
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<zotherstupidguy>
meh, not workin for me yet
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<manveru>
zotherstupidguy: well, there's a way
<zotherstupidguy>
?
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<manveru>
or maybe not...
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<manveru>
you can define a method before inherting
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<manveru>
*can't
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<manveru>
so the only way would be to define the method on A but instead raise in the method
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: What is your goal? Are you trying to do something like "pure virtual methods" ?
<zotherstupidguy>
what are "pure virtual methods"? nah, i just want to make whoever inherits from my base class gets a warning if they don't implmenet specific mehtods
<manveru>
>> class A; def hi; raise NotImplementedError, "implement hi if you want to inherit from A"; end; end; [Class.new(A), Class.new(A){ def hi; :hi; end }].map{|c| begin; c.new.hi; rescue NotImplementedError => e; e; end }
<ruby[bot]>
manveru: # => [#<NotImplementedError: implement hi if you want to inherit from A>, :hi] (https://eval.in/663006)
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: It's a concept in C++ where you have an abstract base class that defines an interface - but you cannot use that interface. Instead you must derive from it, and implement these methods.
<dminuoso_>
manveru's code is a simplistic Ruby solution to the problem
<zotherstupidguy>
i think its similar to NotImplementedError
<manveru>
otherwise you can only solve it with a module that you include into the class after you defined it
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<manveru>
because at the point where you write 'class B < A', there's no method in B yet
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<dminuoso_>
manveru: I'm thinking there could be a way.
<manveru>
and you can at best delay the check for a few seconds or something... which is weird
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<dminuoso_>
asm>> class A<B;e end
<ruby[bot]>
dminuoso_: I have disassembled your code, the result is at https://eval.in/663007
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<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: What you could do, is forbid direct inheritance (by using the inherited callback) - and provide a factory method in the base class.
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<tvm>
if i have object like #<Gitlab::ObjectifiedHash:14564360 {hash: {"id"=>35, ... how i'm supposed to access id ? puts obj["id"] returns: wrong number of arguments (2 for 1)
<manveru>
>> Thread.abort_on_exception = true; class A; def self.inherited(into); Thread.new{ sleep 1; raise NotImplementedError, "implement hi if you want to inherit from A" unless into.instance_methods(false).include?(:hi) }; end; end; Class.new(A); sleep 2
<zotherstupidguy>
dminuoso_ sounds too clever to be nice
<dminuoso_>
And have that factory method basically do a new_class = do_stuff(with(yield)); test_interface(new_class)
<manveru>
damn eval.in doesn't do sleeps either :P
<manveru>
but hey, that'd work... more or less
<manveru>
if you program runs longer than a second
<dminuoso_>
tvm: Look at the documentation of Gitlab::ObjectifiedHash
<zotherstupidguy>
lol
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: The factory method is not completely unsound considering Ruby does not offer anything else.
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<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: In fact some gems such as FactoryGirl do it too.
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<tvm>
dminuoso_: oh, i thought that objectifiedhash was some native ruby thing, that explains a lot. thanks.
<dminuoso_>
tvm: :)
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<zotherstupidguy>
feels to me like another special case when popularity doesn't conform beauty! anyway THANKS! NotImplementedError would be the way to go for me.
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<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: Many Rubyist would consider this bad, as they are duck fetishists - they think having abstract interfaces and enforced policies is a bad thing. :P
<zotherstupidguy>
dminuoso_ NotImplementedError works for now, how your gist is diff again?
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: I test the existence of the method right when the class is used.
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: not when the method is used.
<zotherstupidguy>
dminuoso_ in a way they are correct, if you strict too much to grammer you can't rap ;)
<dminuoso_>
zotherstupidguy: We have had centuries of cultivated music that relied on very deep music theory.
<canton7>
or if you want interfaces, use a language with interfaces? :)
<dminuoso_>
But hey, if you consider a modern gansgta who proves a complete lack of vocal or grammar abilities to be more elegant than Rachmaninoffs second piano concerto - who am I to argue.
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<zotherstupidguy>
dminuoso_ if i would to readjust the anology, i would go by stating that music is timeless(same as code) thus it wouldn't wieght in much how long it had been done in what way, as opposed to why it was being used. music (code) is meant to be a tool of expressions.
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<ahri>
hi, i'm using Guard and wondered if there's a way to output after a task has finished? i'm using guard-rake actually - i just want to emit a "Done!" message so i know rake has finished doing its thing
<ahri>
i tried callback(:stop) { puts "Done!" }, but that doesn't appear to work the way i expected
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<dminuoso_>
how does it work?
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<dminuoso_>
I've been working too much in C++. I now want to transfer ownership of an IO handle to another object..
<dminuoso_>
And Ruby just doesnt work like I want it to. :(
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<hanmac>
dminuoso_: you can do IO.reopen but that might not 100% what you want
<dminuoso_>
hanmac: Yeah it wont. Essentially I want similar semantics to unique_ptr with tranferrable ownership.
<dminuoso_>
Though mmm.
<dminuoso_>
I guess that could actually work.
<dminuoso_>
hanmac: I can make it work, thanks. :)
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<ccolorado>
matthewd: thanks
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<ccolorado>
What is the most compact way I can count the elements of an array that pass certain condition e.g. elements greater than 0 ? Is it something else than an .each do ?
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<ruby[bot]>
dminuoso1: # => /tmp/execpad-8d68b7a4415d/source-8d68b7a4415d:2: warning: circular argument reference - q ...check link for more (https://eval.in/663160)
<dminuoso1>
Finding new diagnostics every day.
<dminuoso1>
(:
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<ccolorado>
canton7: is tehre something more generic ? like if i just wanted filter+sum elements ? something like map but that returned a single scalar value and i could do acumulators and such.
<ccolorado>
The more I think of it the more it feels like i am describing an each :)
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<dminuoso1>
ccolorado: Yes, you can use Symbol#to_proc if applicable.
<dminuoso1>
ccolorado: And a more generic thing is Enumerable#reduce btw
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<dminuoso1>
ccolorado: Or the more flexible variant Enumerable#each_with_object
<tvm>
what does function returns if theres no return statement?
<ccolorado>
tvm: the last statement
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<dminuoso1>
tvm: The value of the last expression.
<helpa>
Hi tvm. We in #ruby would really appreciate it if you did not use pastebin during your time with us.
<helpa>
Pastebin is not good because it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use Gist (http://gist.github.com) or Pastie (http://pastie.org) instead. Thanks!
<tvm>
well, return still jumps out of the function, so i'll just add return nil i guess.
<dminuoso1>
tvm: That wont work.
* tvm
scratches his head
<dminuoso1>
tvm: Inside proc and blocks a return will always return from the current active method.
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<dminuoso1>
Use "break" to "break out of a proc/block"
<tvm>
ah.
<dminuoso1>
(or next)
<canton7>
ccolorado, or a #map followed by a #count :P
<canton7>
ccolorado, and maybe a #select in there to filter
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<dminuoso1>
tvm: When I mentioned ensure the following rules apply: The last statement before the ensure will be returned, but the ensure will be executed in between the evaluation of the return value and the actual return.
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<tvm>
alright.
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<ruby-lang654>
hello guys
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<ericx2x>
Can someone clean up this line? strip_tags(truncate post.content, length: 75)
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<chrisseaton>
ericx2x: what do you mean by clean it up?
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<frankiee_>
looks pretty clean to me whatever it is
<frankiee_>
shouldn't truncations be done clientside anyway? to avoid extra requests if the user wants to "read more"?
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<supsup>
question: how do you overlay configurations in a middleman server? so that as you go down a file structure a defaults.yaml file wins previous defaults.yaml files?
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<k200>
how can i find nexn item in array only based on what is current item?
<k200>
without usintg any loop or enumerable.
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<k200>
last item should give first item
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<havenwood>
k200: if it weren't for that last requirement you could just:
<havenwood>
>> a = [:beets, :bears, :battlestar_gallactica]; a[a.index(:bears).next]
<ruby[bot]>
k200: # => undefined local variable or method `a' for main:Object (NameError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/663242)
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<asahi>
I don't suppose there's a way to split a string in between the two characters, "}{". Seems like I'd have to use String#index, break the string into 2, and repeat for every instance of "}{"
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<jokke>
hello
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<jokke>
i'd like there to be some kind of includes_exactly matcher for rspec?
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<jokke>
scenario: i want to match a hash with includes and also ensure that there are no additional keys
<gizmore>
^aha$
<gizmore>
equals
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<jokke>
i can't use eq, since i need to use compound matchers
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<eam>
mornin' folks
<havenwood>
g'mornin'
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<ahri>
hi, i'm using Guard and wondered if there's a way to output after a task has finished? i'm using guard-rake actually - i just want to emit a "Done!" message so i know rake has finished doing its thing
<ahri>
i tried callback(:stop) { puts "Done!" }, but that doesn't appear to work the way i expected
<eam>
I'm teaching someone ruby, their level of experience is light bash scriping. ruby koans is a little too advanced; is there any more suitable material?
<postmodern>
having trouble getting foreman exported systemd services running correctly
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<eam>
making up stuff I remember from high school programming seems to be doing well enough, but I might do more of this so I'm curious
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<asahi>
havenwood: thanks for those examples earlier. I'll try them out
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<sagax>
hi all!
<sagax>
how to iterating very big array?
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<apeiros>
sagax: Array#each
<sagax>
apeiros: it's true, but if array very very big?
<apeiros>
why do you think Array#each would not be sensible for big arrays?
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<sagax>
i think, that memory will be overload
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<apeiros>
and why would that be?
<sagax>
I want to control this process
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<apeiros>
ok. you still fail to tell me what's wrong with Array#each.
<havenwood>
sagax: What do you want to control? What about it? How does #each not suffice? Have an example test case demonstrating your problem?
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<sagax>
hm, well, ok
<sagax>
I will use meanwhile each method,
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<apeiros>
sagax: is there a reason you don't answer our questions?
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<sagax>
one moment, answering
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<bovis>
I'm unsure of how to handle dedicated user sessions. The biggest issue I'm facing is persistent state across changing users who can essentially log in and out multiple times, making changes to the files they own. I can share the whole program if necessary, but hopefully these specifics can get things started: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/46da980e46f81061c18a7fa05e2e3b5c
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<bovis>
Apologies in advance for the length. Any help is appreciated.
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<sagax>
"What do you want to control?" - I wanted to work with the big array as with a set of small array
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<sagax>
"How does #each not suffice?" - i thinked, that each method with big array got overload memory
<sagax>
well, i back to next time, i will with examples
<sagax>
but batches will help me
<djellemah>
sagax: Sequel has streaming result sets for postgres. Not sure about mysql.
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<harushimo>
I'm trying to install ruby with home-brew or rvm. I can get an error on automake
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<harushimo>
its says installing automaker and then it errors out
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<xall>
harushimo: the specific error is probably relevant for getting help. you might try rbenv rather than rvm
<harushimo>
i'll post it on a gist. I'm trying one more time
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<ModusPwnens>
Does anyone know why ruby would resolve different namespaces for classes on different computers?
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<ModusPwnens>
I wrote a class that extended another ruby class without the full explicit namespace and it worked fine for me, but it fails for one other engineer on our team and I have no idea why. Am I missing something about how ruby namespaces work?
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<havenwood>
ModusPwnens: Same Ruby version and engine?
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<havenwood>
harushimo: brew update && brew upgrade && rvm get head && rvm autolibs enable && rvm install ruby
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<harushimo>
I've been doing that
<harushimo>
I'll try again
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<harushimo>
havenswood: do I need to specify the ruby version or does the latest get install by default?
<ModusPwnens>
Oh yes. We are both just using ruby.
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<havenwood>
ModusPwnens: Hmm, maybe different versions of gems installed? Or does it not have deps or you're using a Gemfile.lock?
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<harushimo>
havenswood: thank you so much
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<ModusPwnens>
havenwood: No dependencies. There's no gemfile.
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<havenwood>
harushimo: you're welcome
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<ModusPwnens>
havenwood: Frankly, after seeing his error, I'm surprised it worked on anyone's computers at all because the implicit namespace appears to be wrong anyways.
<havenwood>
harushimo: the latest gets installed by default, if you mean the RVM command!
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<havenwood>
ModusPwnens: hmm
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<xall>
ModusPwnens: do you have tests? is it in git? try cloning fresh and running tests
<havenwood>
harushimo: for ruby-install it's the same and you can even check for newer Rubies from the ruby-versions repo with: ruby-install --latest ruby
<harushimo>
havenswood: I was reading there is two ways right.
<harushimo>
is rvm install --latest ruby. Same result essentially
<harushimo>
one way is rvm install ruby-2.3.0 or the second way
<havenwood>
harushimo: If you `rvm get head` it should be Ruby 2.3.1, the latest.
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<havenwood>
harushimo: Do use 2.3.1 instead of 2.3.0.
<harushimo>
okay thank you
<starmix>
÷
<havenwood>
harushimo: rvm --default use 2.3.1
<harushimo>
that command I know
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<xall>
as someone who's fairly new to ruby and the entire ecosystem, is there a good way to tell which framework a method is from? for example i'm in a spec, looking at `team = create(:team, name: "A fine team")`
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<xall>
my guess is that it's either rails or rspec
<xall>
`create` that is
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<ruby[bot]>
xall: Pry, the better IRB, provides easy object inspection `ls`, `history`, viewing docs `?`, viewing source `$`, syntax highlighting and other features (see `help` for more). Put `binding.pry` in your source code for easy debugging. Install Pry (https://pryrepl.org/): gem install pry pry-doc
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<ruby[bot]>
dminuoso_: # => /tmp/execpad-269b9b77ac37/source-269b9b77ac37:2: syntax error, unexpected '>' ...check link for more (https://eval.in/663394)
<ruby[bot]>
dminuoso_: # => wrong number of arguments (1 for 0) (ArgumentError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/663395)
<dminuoso_>
epitron: As long as we have had lambdas.
<epitron>
manveru: ohhh
<dminuoso_>
epitron: Or just use a proc you know..
<epitron>
heh, that makes more sense
<DaniG2k>
I was hoping someone could help out. I have been using Ruby and Rails as a hobbyist for a while but haven't been able to get a Rails dev job for the life of me. Would anyone be able to suggest what I can do or improve?
<DaniG2k>
but I've worked as a sys-admin and consultalt for 3.5 years
<DaniG2k>
so I can't figure out why I can't go into ruby/rails development
<DaniG2k>
consultant*
<mikecmpbll>
im surprised you're finding it difficult tbh. not many graduate/junior devs we recruit have ever written ruby
<DaniG2k>
its like impossible I've been rejected a trillion times
<DaniG2k>
i might be underselling myself during the interview
<DaniG2k>
i answer all their questions correctly :/
<dminuoso_>
DaniG2k: You get into interviews?
<dminuoso_>
DaniG2k: If so, then it cant be your resume.
<DaniG2k>
yep
<dminuoso_>
Then your resume is not the issue.
<dminuoso_>
Clearly.
<dminuoso_>
The CV + stuff is just to buy yourself a ticket into the interview.
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<DaniG2k>
I got to the 5th routh for one company a few days ago, and to the 3rd roudn for another company in japan yesterday
<DaniG2k>
but they drop me at the end :/
<mikecmpbll>
fair point.
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<DaniG2k>
its like...dropping after 5 interviews is a bit of a di** move :/
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<mikecmpbll>
lol 5
<manveru>
hehe, happened to me too :)
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<DaniG2k>
and 3 for another company
<DaniG2k>
just got the response today
<DaniG2k>
they're like "sorry we had the impression you were more senior" @_@ but I told them exactly what the deal was
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<mikecmpbll>
sounds like you're going for too senior roles
<manveru>
what's more junior than junior dev?
<DaniG2k>
he even asked me what evaluates to false in Javascript and I told him the 6 falsey values
<mikecmpbll>
as someone who's not worked as a dev before, you're unlikely to get anything beyond what the graduate level
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<DaniG2k>
its kind of stupid
<DaniG2k>
oh well
<DaniG2k>
maybe I need to contrib to open source more
<manveru>
well, one advice i can give you... don't treat the interview like a quiz where you get in with the right answers
<manveru>
try to interview them more than they you
<mikecmpbll>
from an employers perspective, your self-learning will probably just about put you on a par with someone who's done a degree.
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<DaniG2k>
mikecmpbll: exactly
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<DaniG2k>
mikecmpbll: most of the people with comp sci degrees at my current company dont know how to use Ansible/Vagrant/Sensu/Openresty and the other stuff I deal with
<DaniG2k>
part of the issue is I want to move away from DevOps cause its boring
<mikecmpbll>
indeed, that's your job :p
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<manveru>
:)
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<DaniG2k>
bah
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<DaniG2k>
I will just go into gardening
<manveru>
if you find devops boring, have you met nix?
<DaniG2k>
jeez people are still using Bootstrap 3?
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<manveru>
sure
<manveru>
it's slightly better than using plain text
<DaniG2k>
hahah
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<DaniG2k>
what's a gem that could use some love?
<DaniG2k>
that isn't massively complicated
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<manveru>
that depends on what you think is complicated...
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<DaniG2k>
touche
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<manveru>
all my gems need some love for example
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<manveru>
but there's almost nobody using them anyway
<DaniG2k>
link plz?
<DaniG2k>
:O
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<runa>
heyas. I would like to generate a zipfile incrementally (ie, not generate it on disk and later compress it). I've checked Zip#get_output_stream but it seems it generates a temp file and compresses it afterwards. any hints? (I cannot use gzip, only zip here ;(
<moeSizlak>
if i perform the outer loop 10x more times it takes like 40x longer to run
<bovis>
Anyone have suggestions for small (~250-500 lines) ruby programs I can read that would be good for showing me program and file structure as a beginner?
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<havenwood>
moeSizlak: a is getting bigger, yeah? and you're iterating through the collection four times, once with each #include?
<elomatreb>
bovis: Maybe not exactly relevant for program/file structure, but I found it extremely useful to read things like singular ActiveSupport (Rails) helpers
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<al2o3-cr>
smart eval'in
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<al2o3-cr>
unsmart smarties
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<kiwiiusa>
i would like to use vagrant to set everything up a ruby on rails working environment what is a good way to go to get everything up and running in no time?
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* kiwiiusa
laughs at him for breaking his back for pulling his back
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<ruby[bot]>
al2o3-cr: # => /tmp/execpad-fca39798881f/source-fca39798881f:2: [BUG] Segmentation fault at 0x00000c ...check link for more (https://eval.in/663407)
<al2o3-cr>
why?
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<havenwood>
al2o3-cr: it's the Segmentation's fault
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<al2o3-cr>
havenwood: where has the reference gone?
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<al2o3-cr>
maybe i'm looking at this at a different angle, take a proper look tomorrow