jhass changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: https://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.3.1; 2.2.5; 2.1.9: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on https://gist.github.com || logs @ http://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby/
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<chris349> how do I specify what version of ruby to install with the https://get.rvm.io script?
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<soulisson> If I want to overwrite data in a file, do I have to use this mode "r+", or is there an another mode available?
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<jhass> well, 'w'
<jhass> chris349: https://rvm.io/ it's right there
<jhass> --ruby=2.1.9
<soulisson> jhass, 'w' will create a new file as far as I know
<jhass> if it doesn't exist yet
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<soulisson> jhass, you can test it a new file is created or truncated to zero
<jhass> I know
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<soulisson> jhass, oh you meant like if the file alreaady exists it's just truncated, the inode number doesn't change?
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<jhass> yup
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<jhass> aka "overwriting data in a file"
<soulisson> jhass, in my case, I don't want to truncate the file, just change specific data at specific offsets
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<jhass> 'a' then and seek back
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<soulisson> jhass, I tried with seek and rewind, it stays at the same position
<jhass> btw you don't need to highlight me with every message
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<jhass> and that doesn't sound very likely
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<matthewd> 'a+', no?
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<jhass> a+ is just reading and writing, no?
<jhass> r+ + seek to the end
<soulisson> I tried with a, seek(0) wont change, the current position
<matthewd> Ah, indeed
<matthewd> soulisson: So what's wrong with r+ ?
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<soulisson> matthewd, that's what I did, but kind of odd since you need the read right and for a just the write right
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<matthewd> I think seeking into the middle of the file effectively requires a.. read-ish operation anyway
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<soulisson> matthewd, ok
<jhass> >> File.write("/tmp/test", "foo"); File.open("/tmp/test", "r+") {|f| f.seek(1); f.write("b"); }; File.read("/tmp/test")
<ruby[bot]> jhass: # => (https://eval.in/618691)
<jhass> meh, thanks eval.in
<jhass> anyway, returns fbo for me
<jhass> and f.pos is correct at any given point too
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<soulisson> yes, r+ works
<jhass> mh, "a" indeed doesn't, curious
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<soulisson> is the times method considered an iterator ex: 3.times ?
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<jhass> I'd say so, yes
<jhass> if you pass it a block it's an internal iterator, if you don't it returns an external iterator (Enumerator)
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<soulisson> jhass, I thought an iterator was a method that allowed you to iterate over a collection but I see it's not the case
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<jhass> well, the implicit collection here is (0..2)
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<soulisson> oh ok, I sees, didn't think about that
<jhass> at least semantically, of course actually creating a range instance for this would be a bit ineffecient
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<Norm_> Has anyone here ever used rubygems on Ubuntu or Linux Mint? I have a strange noobie question.
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<Norm_> Installed rubygems through RVM. Seemed to work fine. Had to do a hard reset after installing, and now the package has disappeared. Is this normal?
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<jhass> is RVM still loaded? what's the output of rvm current?
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<Norm_> let me try
<Norm_> it says ruby-2.3.0
<jhass> mh, seems alright
<jhass> any gemsets? rvm gemset list_all
<Norm_> Maybe I just dont have the right frame of reference. When I try to run gem, or something i installed with it (I installed jekyll), it says the program is not installed
<jhass> also rvm list while we're at it
<Norm_> do I have to do something before running gems I've installed?
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<Norm_> RVM list just lists 2.3.0
<jhass> depends a bit on the setup
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<Norm_> list of gemsets: (default) global
<Norm_> if that makes any sense
<jhass> yeah
* jhass shrugs
<jhass> no idea, I'd just reinstall
<Norm_> hmm, ok
<jhass> gem install jekyll again
<Norm_> yeah but gem itself isnt recognized
<jhass> huh
<Norm_> The program 'gem' can be found in the following packages:
<Norm_> that's what it gives me
<jhass> what does rvm use 2.3 say?
<Norm_> But I swear i installed it yesterday
<Norm_> RVM used your Gemfile for selecting Ruby, it is all fine - Heroku does that too,
<Norm_> you can ignore these warnings with 'rvm rvmrc warning ignore /home/norm/Xanadu/jecky/Gemfile'.
<Norm_> Unknown ruby interpreter version (do not know how to handle): RUBY_VERSION.
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<jhass> uh
<Norm_> it says something about changing terminal emulator to allow login shell. Have you seen that one before?
<jhass> oh, there's more?
<Norm_> also: RVM is not a function, selecting rubies with 'rvm use ...' will not work.
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<Norm_> Yeah it gives me that link too
<jhass> there we go, that'll be the main issue
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<Norm_> Oh it is? I guess I have to read up on that
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<Norm_> could I bypass this by just using the console, not a terminal
<Norm_> in otherwords, outside my window manager?
<jhass> well, it'll be a login shell, so it'll work
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<jhass> but what a terrible workaround
<Norm_> ha, I know
<Norm_> this looks simple enough. Just a setting
<jhass> yes
<jhass> the other options are to manually source into the current shell each time
<jhass> or to source in the .$SHELLrc instead of the profile
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<jhass> I'm still not sure why RVM insists on sourcing in the profile
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<Norm_> I'm new to ruby, so all of this kind of bewilders me
<Norm_> I cant just apt-get stuff
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<Norm_> but I'll learn. The hard way.
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<Norm_> Thank you so much for your help!
<jhass> well you can, you just get outdated stuff on mint ;)
<Norm_> hahaha!!!
<Norm_> or have the latest and greatest packages break my OS install on arch ;)
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<jhass> in the last 5 years my arches died due to hardware issues, not software ;)
<Norm_> In all seriousness, I used to run arch, and loved the heck out of it. But twice in a row they made some changes to one package or another that would break your system if you did an update. They gave you instructions on how to fix, on their website
<Norm_> which I never visited :(
<Norm_> but one day I'll go back to arch. This is temporary
<Norm_> Thanks again!
<jhass> :)
<jhass> yw
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<pizzaops> I love arch too...I just can't afford to run it :P
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<pizzaops> I basically have no non-prod systems anymore. I always need to be able to work. Arch is fun, but there's too much "risk",
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<pizzaops> People always tell me how they don't have any stability issues with it and I'm just FUDding, but then there's random breakages like those.
<pizzaops> They handled that situation well (I recall it) but I regularly update desktops. I don't want to have to "be very careful" every time I want to just do a desktop software upgrade....
<pizzaops> </rant>
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<rubirc> hey guys, I'm writing tests with the default ruby testcase thingy
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<rubirc> i wonder if there are some extensions which add asserts on Object
<rubirc> something like '123'.skip!(1).assert('23')
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<ljarvis> rubirc: "123"[1..-1].must_equal("23")
<ljarvis> but seriously, assert "23", x is better.. :)
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> hi Guys, I'm having issues with gsub. I'm using Logstash and want to replace everything after "server.hostname.com" with stars or questions marks (to hide the info). Example - server.hostname.com=banana with server.hostname=**********
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<Zarthus> h3lp_me_for_the_: what regex are you using?
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<Zarthus> something like gsub ([^=]+)=.* $1=**** should work
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> ./logstash -e ' input { stdin {}} filter { mutate { gsub => ["message", "server.hostname.com=\d+", "server.hostname=****"] } }'
<h3lp_me_for_the_> something like that, but obviously not working
<Zarthus> is that a regex?
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<Zarthus> i imagine gsub => wants //, not "", but i never used it before
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> tried it with // as well, to no avail. Yea, never used gsub myself, but I'm stuck with it due to logstash :(
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<Zarthus> wha is the text after =
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<Zarthus> \d+ only matches digits
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> text after is arbitrary. I tried with D (not digit), not working :( Let's assume the text is "myserver123"
<apeiros> which contains digits and non-digits
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> Correct :) At one point I just wanted to be able to hide at least one of the two, since replacing something after a regex seemed impossible with gsub here
<Zarthus> Start with replacing \d+ with .*
<Zarthus> if that works, try \w+
<Zarthus> (for the record: \w is A-Za-z0-9_)
<h3lp_me_for_the_> haha you magnificent bastard! I litterally started laughing once it worked. So easy, but never tried it. Jeez
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<h3lp_me_for_the_> Thanks a million mate ;)
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<h3lp_me> Hey guys, it's me, the regex noob using gsub. You helped with replacing everything after a string with something else. Next question , how can I set an end mark. Example, I want to replace everything after server.hostname.com= until it reaches &
<h3lp_me> so server.hostname=banana&orange would be server.hostname=*****&orange
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<jhass> h3lp_me: /(?<=server.hostname=)[^&]+/
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<h3lp_me> Hej, I'm using logstash where the syntax is a bit different, it is currently
<h3lp_me> input { stdin {}} filter { mutate { gsub => ["message", "server.hostname.com.*", "server.hostname=****"] } }'
<h3lp_me> what would it be in that case? "gsub" in logstash doesn't take "/" but " instead
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<jhass> well you said it yourself, replace / with "?
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<h3lp_me> hm, doesn't work, just leaves the entire string in place.
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<h3lp_me> yeah, that's it. But only with basic samples
<h3lp_me> as to what jhass proposed, this is what happens: http://pasteboard.co/5mPPQ26JF.png
<h3lp_me> nothing really.
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<jhass> well, which regex engine does it use?
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<toretore> "message", "server.hostname.com=[^&]+", "server.hostname.com=something"
<jhass> oh right, just noticed too, there's a .com
<jhass> for whatever reason
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<jhass> so "(?<=server.hostname.com=)[^&]+", "****"
<h3lp_me> @toretore Thank you mate, that was exactly what I needed. @Jhass thank you for your help as well
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<jhass> give my last example a try too, if it works it spares you from changing server.hostname.com in both, the regex and the replacement, if you ever need to change it
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<jhass> (and thus protects you from forgetting/messing that up)
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<h3lp_me> @jhass great stuff mate, works as well!
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<ponga> hi
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<Neobenedict> this keeps appearing randomly: chruby: unknown Ruby: ruby-2.3.0
<Neobenedict> any help
<Neobenedict> just sometimes appears on system logon, when i type a command, etc
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<jhass> Neobenedict: using chruby_auto ?
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<Neobenedict> dunno
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<Neobenedict> i installed ruby a while back, dont remember what i did
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<jhass> bash, zsh,...?
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<toggafx> when should we use a statement like this? def hello;puts'hi';end
<jhass> never
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<toggafx> eval def hello;puts'hi';end
<jhass> well, perhaps code golfing
<toggafx> eval >> def hello;puts'hi';end
<toggafx> that bloody thing doesn't work
<jhass> I think we all can decipher it anyway
<jhass> Neobenedict: so, what's your shell?
<Neobenedict> bash on debian
<jhass> Neobenedict: what's the output of grep -in chruby ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile ~/.profile
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<Neobenedict> ./home/neo/.bashrc:111:source /usr/local/share/chruby/chruby.sh
<Neobenedict> ./home/neo/.bashrc:112:source /usr/local/share/chruby/auto.sh
<Neobenedict> remove those two?
<jhass> if you no longer wish to use chruby that's one solution sure
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<Neobenedict> yeah I don't need it
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<jhass> just removing auto.sh works too probably
<Neobenedict> can always add it back
<Neobenedict> tyvm
<jhass> or making ruby 2.3.0 available to chruby (probably by installing it)
<jhass> do you see a .ruby-version file anywhere?
<Neobenedict> i think i botched something
<jhass> auto.sh shouldn't trigger without one
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<toggafx> i thought the latest version was 2.3.1
<Neobenedict> yes
<jhass> toggafx: it is, but not relevant here
<Neobenedict> there is a .ruby-version in my home dir
<Neobenedict> with ruby-2.3.0 inside
<jhass> so removing that should fix it too
<Neobenedict> ill remove it
<Neobenedict> thanks
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<toggafx> Neobenedict: you're lucky jhass is here, he's a wizard when it comes to this stuff
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<toggafx> so bitbucket was sponsoring free annual sitepoint accounts
<toggafx> and now i came across this =(
<toggafx> i wonder what other things they've gotten wrong in the lesson
<toggafx> this was just the most obvious one
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<jhass> haha
<jhass> yeah, sitepoint seems to be about quantity, not quality
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<harfangk> is there any other ruby-rogues listener? i got a question
<harfangk> i couldn't find a way to sign up for ruby rogues parley (forum) to get in there
<harfangk> how do i do that?
<harfangk> or does it still exist at all?
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<toggafx> jhass: do you know of a quality resource to learn ruby for complete beginners?
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<jhass> I'm not sure, if you don't absorb their coding style too much, codeacadamey isn't tooo terrible
<jhass> I do like the codeschool stuff, but it's not cheap
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<toggafx> jhass: i find codeschool to be for people already with experience in the current topic and it's more like a guideline course than a beginner's course in my opinion
<jhass> I find it quite detailed
<nebg> is perl better than ruby ?
<toggafx> they are very detailed, but i saw the ruby course and he was saying you already saw this and here is how you can do it better
<toggafx> i was lost and thinking to myself no i never saw that before
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<jhass> nebg: are potato chips better than tortilla chips?
<toggafx> jhass: depends on the potato
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<apeiros> jhass: that wasn't really an answer!
<apeiros> nebg: no.
<nebg> jhass, no tortilla chips are better
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<nebg> apeiros, why ? i need justification
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<apeiros> because I say so.
<jhass> nebg: why are tortilla chips better? I need a justification for that too
<nebg> apeiros, are you some sort of guru ?
<nebg> jhass, because nutritionally they are better
<apeiros> yes.
<jhass> why is that the important property? it's just a snack, best is eating none of them
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<nebg> yes ahh ok
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<nebg> jhass, well because nutrition is important
<nebg> and tortialla are more tasteful generally
<nebg> if we take some statistics we find out that tortilla chips are preferred generally
<nebg> so they are better
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<jhass> for nutrition something like soylent is arguably the best approach
<jhass> the rest is your opinion ;)
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<jhass> if you throw a party, you won't buy what the general average prefers, but what your peer group prefers
<jhass> and this is just the same
<jhass> which language to choose depends on 1) your preferences 2) your collaborators preferences 3) which properties are important for you and your project
<toggafx> well i guess what i am looking for is something well made, accurate, and applicable to the web
<apeiros> so much fish
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<toggafx> i saw in a blog sitepoint being good
<toggafx> i was excited until i came across that
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<toggafx> jhass: what is your opinion on lynda.com?
<jhass> never looked at it
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<leea> toggafx in general or for any specific material?
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<minimalism> Is there a recommended gem for handling image uploads in web apps?
<jhass> carrierwave and paperclip are the big two
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<minimalism> jhass: Are there any other alternatives? I recently heard of those, but I was curious if there were any barebones alternatives that didn't do much other than the one thing.
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<adam12> minimalism: I like Dragonfly.
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