<shevy>
in the code example, your indent levels are not consistent
<shevy>
this makes it harder for others to read it
<shevy>
look at line 2
<shevy>
it should be indented towards the right
<shevy>
then a few other things
<shevy>
player.mountListPlayer("#{a1}")
<shevy>
that should be equal to
<shevy>
player.mountListPlayer(a1)
<shevy>
right?
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<h00d>
=\
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<h00d>
cok
<h00d>
ok*
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<shevy>
also
<shevy>
you have some weird checks
<shevy>
if fragmentedFile.length < 3 || fragmentedFile.length < 5
<shevy>
are you testing the same thing essentially here?
<shevy>
"less than 3, or less than 5"
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<shevy>
you could just check for "less than 5" right? because 3 already is less than 5, so you don't need to check for it again
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<shevy>
try to make the code as simple as possible
<shevy>
also please correct the above ^^^ errors, then update your gist
<h00d>
ok
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<xxneolithicxx>
consistency... crappy coders have as much of that in their code as a geriatrics bowel movements
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<xxneolithicxx>
*not referencing that code i havent even looked at it
<xxneolithicxx>
as an example of why thats important... i spent a full week reading a single python script a fellow worker wrote to figure wtf it was doing due to poor indentation and variable usage
<xxneolithicxx>
dont be that dude :-)
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<h00d>
if with this you mean I'm on the right track, so cool your comments. I want to learn this language.
<xxneolithicxx>
i dunno, i didnt look at the links above was just commenting on what shevy said about indenting and making stuff consistent and easy to read
<xxneolithicxx>
in general
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<h00d>
ok.
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<shevy>
h00d did you update your code already?
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<shevy>
xxneolithicxx yeah. it may sound trivial or tiny, but I really think when people look at code, it's important to have it be visually appealing too. It always takes me extra time to understand what is going on when things are curiously indented
<h00d>
yeah, butI believe that the indentation on github was different to the original design
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<jud>
does anyone use gitflow, or have an opinion on it?
<jud>
wait.. and. not or.
<shevy>
don't think I know gitflow
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<jud>
my concern right away is my distaste for feature branches, but im wondering if anyone uses this model and likes it
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<user121212>
Hello, I'm running a crawler on a server (Ubuntu 14.04), It was running fine for the last couple of hours, But now it showing some error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10842578/ any idea about what went wrong here?
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<shevy>
is there a way to count via cyclic arrays?
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<harisamin>
shevy: so u want a ring buffer basically?
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<omgdinosaurs>
anyone here work for airbnb
<omgdinosaurs>
?
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<xxneolithicxx>
i do it manually kinda but i dont use the actual gitflow tool
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<xxneolithicxx>
i guess your "distaste" may lie in the enormous number of branches left behind?
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<xxneolithicxx>
gitflow (tool or the feature branching style) itself is not something i would recommend for small projects though
<xxneolithicxx>
its overkill
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<xxneolithicxx>
its intended for large numbers of people working together so you arent not stepping over each other
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<xxneolithicxx>
* are not
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<xxneolithicxx>
user121212 you still there?
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<xxneolithicxx>
anyway in case you check the logs later, check your /etc/hosts and the other /etc/hostname and basically make sure your hostname is set correctly on your ubuntu box and also check your /etc/resolv.conf for DNS resolution. either of those could cause that.
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<dparker1>
does anyone know of a framework (or a combination of them) that'd let you do something like a cisco IOS like shell? (e.g. a interactive shell where you move about in a hierarchy of namespaces each of which have their own commands) I've not so far found anything that does that per-se, so at the moment I'm thinking it might be some combination of gli and highline. Any ideas?
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<shevy>
harisamin yeah sorta
<shevy>
would be kinda cool if you could modify the default class Array in ruby, to reposition towards [0] when it is accessed out-of-bounds
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<sagittarian>
if I want to replace occurences of one string with another (literal string), is String#sub/String#gsub the best way to do that?
<Diabolik>
yes
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<sagittarian>
okay thanks
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<user121212>
@xxneolithicxx thanks, the site I crawl was down for few minutes, that's why its failed.
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<user121212>
I want to write an exception for a crawler, If the url is unavailable, this have to wait until it's site is up, any idea about how to do it?
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<dparker1>
does anyone know of a framework (or a combination of them) that'd let you do something like a cisco IOS like shell? (e.g. a interactive shell where you move about in a hierarchy of namespaces each of which have their own commands) I've not so far found anything that does that per-se, so at the moment I'm thinking it might be some combination of gli and highline. Any ideas?
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<jhass>
FernandoBasso: because it's invalid syntax, you want (1..5).each do {|i| puts i } or yet better 1.upto(5) {|i| puts i }
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<FernandoBasso>
Ah, so blocks with { } can't be applied passed to for, but they can be passed to each.
<leitz>
Ah, apeiros, there's a "natrualsort" gem. Let me play with that.
<apeiros>
reminds me that I wanted to add that to my `sorting` gem ages ago…
<apeiros>
*sob*
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<FernandoBasso>
jhass: Thanks.
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<jhass>
FernandoBasso: or in general, they can be passed to method calls, but not to control flow statements
<FernandoBasso>
Okay. Nicely put.
<jhass>
FernandoBasso: and you just discovered one of the reasons why for is considered not idiomatic and generally avoided ;)
<FernandoBasso>
Indeed :)
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<leitz>
Well, that's a bummer. I sorted the array after removing the "V-". If I "puts array" it shows in numeric order. Using array..each do "write to file" puts them back in non-natural order.
<apeiros>
leitz: you probably used sort/sort_by and not sort!/sort_by!
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<apeiros>
those return a sorted copy. they don't sort in-place.
<leitz>
Hmm...maybe I need more coffee. It works now.
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<jhass>
leitz: want a style review? ;)
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<jhass>
leitz: or just the three line version of your script? :P
<sevenseacat>
lol
<jhass>
the later I guess then, here you go: SOURCE = ARGV[0]; TARGET = File.join "new", SOURCE; File.write TARGET, File.readlines(SOURCE).sort_by {|vid| vid[/\d+/].to_i }.join
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<shevy>
do people become wiser as they grow older?
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<shevy>
when I compared old Alan Kay lectures with newer ones... I don't know if the newer ones are qualitatively not as good... or whether it may be because he got older, naturally, or perhaps lacks energy, but the old lectures seem so much better compared to the newer ones :(
<shevy>
same thing with noam chomsky... though in his case, his voice significantly changed and got weaker so it's not as cool to listen to him anymore
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<Narzew>
Know anyone quick method to remove all HTML from string (normal Ruby, non-rails)
<Narzew>
?
<havenwood>
String#clear
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<jhass>
haha
<jhass>
does REXML parse HTML? I don't know
<jhass>
I'd use nokogiri I guess
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<jhass>
or .gsub /<[^>]+>/, "" if it doesn't need to handle all edge cases
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<Narzew>
I need to clear some advanced HTML (a tags) for example <a href="example.com>Example</a> I want to convert to Example
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<nickjj>
i haven't, it's being bundle installed on a docker build server
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<havenwood>
nickjj: you might want to give #rubygems a heads up. if it's a reproducible problem in your region they might remove that mirror or something along those lines.
<nickjj>
havenwood, i'm trying to figure out where the build server is hosted now to see its region
<nickjj>
probably somewhere in the US or canada, but can't say for sure
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<havenwood>
nickjj: you might be able to get around it by setting the hosts file for that domain to the ip, if that's an option. dunno why it's happening.
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<nickjj>
it ended up working on the 5th try, i can't touch the host doing the building (it's a cloud based service)
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<havenwood>
hopefully a just a temporary hiccup!
<nickjj>
yeah it is, my gemfile hasn't changed. it worked ~30 times in a row over the last week
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<Narzew>
ruboto: Thanks for the method, worked fine on my code
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<ytti>
17:26 < tphakala> Man with last name “Null” is ruining everyone’s systems! http://t.co/Z1urOoC9vM <stackoverflow.com/questions/4456…>
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<ytti>
slightly related, i hate how 'obvious' way to fork external programs in ruby and every other language i know off, is with shell expansion
<ytti>
i fell like the obvious commands should be without shell expansaion, just method(binary, arg1, arg2, arg3...)
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<ytti>
in most cases people don't seem to need shell expansion, but don't know how to do it without it, and end up creating unnecessary bugs
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<giuseppesolinas>
hello
<havenwood>
giuseppesolinas: hi
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<rshetty>
giuseppesolinas: Hi
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<giuseppesolinas>
no questions for you guys today, sorry ^^
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<atmosx>
aloha
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* atmosx
Barry white - You see the trouble with me (remix)
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<racest>
is learning ruby gay?
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<jhass>
racest: not very creative, try again (or better don't, then you're gone)
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<racest>
what jhass ???
<jhass>
pretty dumb troll attempt there, I say
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<racest>
no i'm serious i told my friend that i want to learn ruby and he said that's gay
<Outlastsheep>
....What.
<jhass>
then your friend is plain stupid
<jhass>
get better friends
<Outlastsheep>
Agreed. I don't get how a language can have a sexual preference :L
* Coraline
is gay, that explains everything
<jhass>
using gay as curse word in itself is pretty stupid already
<Outlastsheep>
Lemme guys, he 'codes' in HTML?
<Outlastsheep>
Or does he say he's a 'big boy' and exclusively does C++?
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<jhass>
hey, let's not feed
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<jhass>
racest: any other topic?
<Outlastsheep>
Oh yeah, apologies.
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<racest>
he codes in something called assembly... i have no idea what that is though
<jhass>
anything that doesn't involve your "friend"?
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<racest>
he is my friend because we go to school together and hangout sometimes, but i never seen him in front of a computer doing stuff, but he did get expelled for changing his grades
<certainty>
i know gay ruby programmers. I might ask them if ruby made them gay
<certainty>
i doubt it though
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<racest>
certainty: please don't take the word gay out of context.... gay means not cool
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<certainty>
racest: i see
<racest>
like the car gti is gay because everyone in my school has one
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<Outlastsheep>
...O...kay?
<jhass>
racest: get better friends. People that use it like that are not worth the effort of a relationship
<racest>
what do you mean?
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<racest>
use what like that?
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<racest>
also school is gay
<jhass>
gay as a curse word/degrading description
<racest>
i think that's the best way to put it
<racest>
jhass: everyone uses gay this way
<mozzarella>
you guys don't know how to recognize a troll
<jhass>
everyone liked killing jews when hitler was our leader here. So it's a good thing?
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<jhass>
mozzarella: nothing's interrupted ;)
<certainty>
racest: well as you already said gay is equivalent to "not cool" for you. so you can easily replace the word gay with the words "not cool" in all your sentences and you're done :)
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<certainty>
then you have a better way to put it, i mean
<racest>
well they said that the holocaust was a lie, according to leading scientists(they said that the holocaust didn't happen the way they claim)
<racest>
certainty: but gay is so much shorter and much more elegant
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<Outlastsheep>
racest:...'elegant' is your opinion there.
<Outlastsheep>
Shorter, sure. But what does that say?
<jhass>
!kick racest no absurd conspiracy theories, strike two
racest was kicked from #ruby by ruboto [no absurd conspiracy theories, strike two]
<certainty>
also i'm the official troll here. This channel is too small for the two of us
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<Outlastsheep>
certainty: played too much Skyrim? :L
<certainty>
xD
<racest>
what is an absurd conspiracy theory?
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<jhass>
you know damn right
<Outlastsheep>
I should probably consider actually /programming/ in Ruby soon-ish...
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<jhass>
er, s/right/well/
<certainty>
Outlastsheep: nah, that's overrated
<Outlastsheep>
I learnt the whole language. But for some reason I haven't gotten around to writing anything in it.
<certainty>
heh i doubt you learned it then
<Outlastsheep>
certainty: I know how to use it... mostly.
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<Outlastsheep>
But yeah, people say learning comes from experience.
<Outlastsheep>
My first language was lua. And I didn't know about the existence of 'for' loops until 2 months after I started.
<certainty>
well in the case of programming is has a lot to do with actually practicing/doing it. At least for me.
* Outlastsheep
groans at the memories of his first program.
<Outlastsheep>
But my code is fine now. At least, in Lua...
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<jhass>
Outlastsheep: no, that's something quite different
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<Outlastsheep>
The link didn't load for me yet, I assumed it was coding exercises.
<jhass>
loads finehere
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<Outlastsheep>
jhass: my slow internet. I'm sharing this with 18 other buildings...
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<racest>
so is your definition of a proper evidence eye witness testimony? (without scientific evidence to back up claims)
<jhass>
and yes it's exercises
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<jhass>
racest: stop it
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<racest>
i'm serious jhass
<jhass>
as am I
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<jhass>
we're not going to debate here whether holocaust was real. Next time you try you're gone for good
<racest>
where is the zyklon b trace in bones and did the ashes and bones of millions of people that were involved in the "genocide" just disappear?
<racest>
it's not a debate
<racest>
just look at the facts
<racest>
that's all
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<jhass>
!ban racest !T 1d nazi/troll
racest was kicked from #ruby by ChanServ [Banned: nazi/troll]
<Outlastsheep>
Now that that's sorted out, where were we?
<jhass>
Outlastsheep: rossettacode compares languages, exercism.io gives you exercises and reviews of your solution
<Outlastsheep>
jhass: Rosettacode are exercises too :L "You are encouraged to /solve this problem/ in any language you know." c:
<Outlastsheep>
You can use it to compare too, though.
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<jhass>
eh well, yeah, exercism.io won't show you other solutions until you saved it ;)
<jhass>
er, *solved it
<Outlastsheep>
We had a bot in this channel who would actually edit your messages when you used RegEx...
<Outlastsheep>
I say 'fix', he just really repeats it with the change made.
<jhass>
sounds annoying
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<Outlastsheep>
There were only like, two people using it, luckily.
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<Outlastsheep>
Y'know, Ruby's channel seems a lot more friendlier :L
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* atmosx
Dire Straits - Your Latest Trick (Live)
<atmosx>
I need to learn the saxophone just to play this tune.
<atmosx>
Outlastsheep: you agree?
<atmosx>
Outlastsheep: ruby and saxophone, what a life.
<Outlastsheep>
atmosx: someone should write Vertigo for Ruby.
<atmosx>
hehe
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<Outlastsheep>
And atmosx would be the king of that.
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<Outlastsheep>
I would LOVE to learn C just so I can try out Vertigo.
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<Outlastsheep>
And then listen to the sweet tunes of my IRC Bot.
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<Outlastsheep>
atmosx: how's your day, friend? c:
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<atmosx>
Outlastsheep: good I think :-)
<atmosx>
Outlastsheep: yours?
<Outlastsheep>
You /think/? Hahaha. I'm doing fine.
<Outlastsheep>
Working on this little project of mine. I finally don't have any setbacks anymore.
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<phpmaster>
|http
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<ytti>
in net/ssh, any clue how to use it as interactive ssh shell, i.e. do something in ruby like login, maybe run some commands, then give control to sort of REPL loop from STDIN
<ytti>
with full line-editing etc
<ytti>
i feel like i'd be reinventing the wheel by heavy-lifting all the REPL loop myself, trying to act as proper TTY
<ytti>
experience to user should be very much in line of using just 'ssh server'
<jhass>
tbh it sounds like you're applying the wrong tool to the job
<jhass>
what's your goal?
<ytti>
i already have library for programmatically interfacing with the device
<ytti>
but i'd also like to give control to opreator, after login, for some use-cases
<jhass>
so you want control to return to your script when the repl is left?
<ytti>
yeah
<jhass>
or is the program exiting fine?
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<ytti>
now i'm doing just exec(ssh)
<ytti>
but i'd like to avoid doing that
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<ytti>
i'd like to do it all in the library, if i can find low-overhead/maintenance for proper terminal handling
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<jhass>
I was going to suggest doing that, I think it's the least reinventing the wheel kind of stuff
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<xxneolithicxx>
will they ever come back to your tool when they are done with the shell session
<xxneolithicxx>
or better said do you need the tool to resume where it left off once they exit the shell session
<ytti>
it would be highly desirable, but i may be able to live without it
<ytti>
but i will definitely need to handle programmatically some part of the ssh session, before handing out control
<ytti>
so just exec(ssh) is not viable
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<xxneolithicxx>
if you dont need that then i would just try replacing the running process with the shell session, not sure if it will transition over correctly though
<ytti>
Using the shell service and pty’s, you can now create a simple SSH terminal client. (You’ll also want to download and install the ruby-termios library so that your input is not interpreted in a linewise fashion.)
<ytti>
maybe 'termios' is what i want
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<Ellistaa>
is a column in excel a one dimensional array or a two dimensional array?
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<jhass>
are you asking what a one-dimensional and what a two-dimensional array is?
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<workmad3>
Ellistaa: are you asking about how you could model it? or how excel implements columns? or are you referring to some specific ruby wrapper around excel file?
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<Ellistaa>
i’m reading about databases and was just wondering if a column in excel is an example of a one dimensional array or a two dimensional array
<Ellistaa>
or is it a hash with 1 key and a crap ton of values
<workmad3>
Ellistaa: well, if you step back and think about what a dimension is (namely, N-dimensions requires N co-ordinates to identify a point) then you could probably answer your own question ;)
<Ellistaa>
well it seems that there is a name for the column, and then all the values so it could be a hash with one key and a ton of values
<workmad3>
Ellistaa: sure, but if you have a single column, you don't need the name
<Ellistaa>
how would u identify it without a key?
<workmad3>
Ellistaa: your question was about a single column... what you're now asking about is a collection of columns
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<Ellistaa>
a single column in a table
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<Ellistaa>
let’s say we have 2 columns in a table, this would be a two dimensional array correct? or a hash with two key value pairs?
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* workmad3
gives up on trying to explain multi-dimensional concepts abstractly
<jhass>
mh, we need a !bail
<wasamasa>
yes
<wasamasa>
also, why the heck is #ruby trying to answer a question involving excel?
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<wasamasa>
that way lies madness
<jhass>
I think apeiros makes his living from interfacing excel with ruby or something
<jhass>
that might be why we get so many of those, dunno
<apeiros>
I what?
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<jhass>
you show a lot of experience in that topic :P
<workmad3>
hehe
<certainty>
hihi
<sohrab>
hm, but to answer, 2 column excel spreadsheet can be represented with a 2D array, right?
<apeiros>
:<
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<workmad3>
sohrab: sure... a table is fundamentally 2-dimensional
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<Ellistaa>
sohrab: gracias
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<Ellistaa>
maybe i asked that question here bc ruby is my first programming language so i’m simultaneously learning programming concepts
<Ellistaa>
as i learn ruby
<fxck>
is there a point to object only being able to inherit from one class but from many modules? whats the point of single inheritance if multiple inheritance of modules is possible?
<apeiros>
fxck: it's still not multiple inheritance. the chain is linear.
<Ellistaa>
order of method lookup?
<Ellistaa>
did i just answer my first question?
<apeiros>
fxck: include a couple of modules and check your class' .ancestors
<fxck>
oh
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<jhass>
I don't work with this stuff, but can't these "spreadsheets" have multiple sheets, making it actually 3-dimensional? :P
<workmad3>
fxck: read up on the 'fun' of full-blown multiple inheritance in C++ :P
<apeiros>
it's not multidimensional tho, as then all tables would IMO need the same col & row count
<wasamasa>
Ellistaa: in other words, the original question is silly as there are many ways of representing something
<fxck>
yeah, i got it
<certainty>
i still believe apeiros is an excel guru
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<IceDragon>
did someone say spreadsheets?
<workmad3>
apeiros: hmm... I'm pretty sure multidimensional manifolds allow co-ordinate ranges to differ based on other co-ordinates
<apeiros>
I'm not. I just have a bit of experience with importing & exporting excel & csv.
* IceDragon
has horrible flash backs from high school
<IceDragon>
oh gaaawd
<apeiros>
workmad3: noway!
<workmad3>
apeiros: it's just not an unconstrained cartesian 3-d space :P
* IceDragon
enters fetal position
<certainty>
better than lethal position
<workmad3>
IceDragon: if you did manifolds in high-school, I'm very jealous!
<Ellistaa>
wasamasa: u r silly
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<wasamasa>
Ellistaa: it's "you" and "are", silly
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<workmad3>
hehe
<Ellistaa>
wasamasa: that’s what the hegemony wants you to think
<wasamasa>
...
<IceDragon>
workmad3: don't even start
<apeiros>
jhass: and trust me - you don't want to have to import from excel
<wasamasa>
my troll meter starts moving
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<certainty>
wasamsa keeps becoming a target. I wonder why that is xD
<jhass>
apeiros: I don't even need to trust you to know that :D
<workmad3>
certainty: it's the bulls-eye on his back
<jhass>
it's obvious
<apeiros>
it's worse
* certainty
hands workmad3 some darts
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<workmad3>
apeiros: surely all you do is use win32ole to export an excel sheet as CSV, and just deal with that? :D
<wasamasa>
certainty: actually, I could cosplay as this bullseye character if I were to shave my head again
<apeiros>
win32ole doesn't run on *nix, does it?
<certainty>
wasamasa: hehe
<apeiros>
also excel doesn't understand what "csv" means
<certainty>
mono
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<certainty>
nobody understands what csv really means
<workmad3>
apeiros: pfft... then you just use vagrant around a virtualbox windows VM and create a ruby HTTP interface around win32ole that you can communicate with from *nix
<apeiros>
additionally it thinks it should just use whichever encoding it deems best. e.g. mac excel on western osx will use macroman
<workmad3>
apeiros: obvious, IMO :P
<apeiros>
workmad3: I suggest you write that and package it as a gem :o)
<workmad3>
apeiros: hehe
<apeiros>
the 16GB gem :D
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<apeiros>
that said - that's how I test against oracle :<
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<wasamasa>
certainty: I blame my generally rather provocative way
<workmad3>
apeiros: well shit... I was just making up crazy ideas to troll with :P
<certainty>
friends don't let friends use spreadsheets
<jhass>
makes you wonder, is there a size limit to what you can push to rubygems.org?
<apeiros>
jhass: String#* is your friend :D
<jhass>
or I can I start using it as a filehoster?
<certainty>
ok i need a character that is guaranteed not to be in the string
<certainty>
woops forgot the sort
<workmad3>
ytti: pretty easy to manage if you do .chars.sort.join("")
<ytti>
yeah
<certainty>
but then it's longer again
<ytti>
lets kick up the heat, what if you need to do it to arbitrarily large input
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<ytti>
maintaining counter is wasteful, bevcausae we only care if it appears >1 or not
<jhass>
I doubt you'll get much more efficient than my solution tbh
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<certainty>
i'd keep seen set
<certainty>
or a hash
<certainty>
jhass: well you could be a bit more space efficient by just checking if you have already seen the character and if so incrementing the accumulator
<certainty>
that could be done in a reduce
<ytti>
now we have potentially infinitely large integers and large number of them
<jhass>
true, but my possible input was just 26 characters
<ytti>
ok
<certainty>
yeah
<ytti>
then no point to do memory optimization
<ytti>
if we needed memory optimiastion probably two hashes would be good option
<ytti>
if first hash is true, set second hash true as well
<workmad3>
ytti: or you could do it with a single hash, and just not increment past 2
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<ytti>
then count how many true values in second hash after stremaing the intput
<ytti>
then we could ask, can we avoid branching while doing this
<ytti>
and i think i'm stumped there
<jhass>
you could hack three states with nil, false and true
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<jhass>
nil = not seen yet, false = seen once, true = seen twice
<jhass>
increment counter on turning false -> true
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<jhass>
also if you do that a lot during runtime performance will be poor
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<IceDragon>
workmad3: hsh[val] = hsh.key?(val)
<workmad3>
IceDragon: heh, nice :)
<cina>
jhass: I mean a class method of its parent class... e.g. I have a 'person = Person.new', and Person has a class method 'Person.count'... I want to change 'person.class.count', and not 'Person.count'...
<workmad3>
cina: you can't do that
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<IceDragon>
cina: Subclass Person
<jhass>
cina: okay, now I transition from you have a design smell to you have a serious design issue
<IceDragon>
cina: class MyPerson < Person
<workmad3>
cina: person.class.count and Person.count are not separate things
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<cina>
ok thanks guys :)
<workmad3>
cina: also, 'parent class' is not the right term there... it's simply the object's class
<cina>
workmad3: thank you, I was struggling to find the right words
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<workmad3>
cina: as IceDragon said... to achieve what you wanted, you'd need to subclass Person and override the method in the subclass... in order to do this for an arbitrary instance of a class, you'd need to create a subclass of Person for every instance you create... which is a horrible idea and, as jhass said, a serious design issue
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<jhass>
and what that means is go back to the drawing board, solve your issue differently, you're on the wrong path here
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<IceDragon>
The other option is to go with a factory pattern, PersonFactory > creates a Person and stores a reference to itself in the Person object, in which you can nab the count from
<IceDragon>
┐(￣ヮ￣)┌
<IceDragon>
person.factory.count
<jhass>
if you want suggestions on what a better solution would be you would need to elaborate about what you're doing and ideally illustrate with some code to make it clear
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<workmad3>
IceDragon: that sounds horrible :P
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<IceDragon>
workmad3: It is
<IceDragon>
You'd be tempted to call person.factory.create
<IceDragon>
And wreck havoc!
<workmad3>
IceDragon: it also doesn't seem to provide a way to monkey-patch person.factory.count without touching PersonFactory.count :P
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<IceDragon>
workmad3: the factory would be an instance of PersonFactory
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<IceDragon>
that way you can have many PersonFactories ;3
* IceDragon
fires up his bot factor(ies|y)
<workmad3>
IceDragon: ah... so you'd need to write methods as instance methods on PersonFactory, so that you could monkey-patch them on instances of Person... which is horrible on so many levels :P
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<workmad3>
IceDragon: or would you just make PersonFactory instances into proxies for Person class methods? :)
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<IceDragon>
I dunno
<IceDragon>
Seems complicated
* jhass
wonders how many iterations you two are away from AbstractSingletonFactoryBean
<workmad3>
jhass: I think my next step is to discuss whether my AbstractSingletonFactoryBean should itself be a singleton, or if it needs its own abstract factory to create instances of it for each use
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<workmad3>
jhass: still a fair bit away from using xml to invoke factories and perform dependency injection though ;)
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<jhass>
I don't know, does it really make any difference anymore once you reached that point?
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<workmad3>
jhass: every new level is important, and requires you to have exactly the same discussions all over again!
<workmad3>
jhass: otherwise, what are consultants being paid for?
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<jhass>
reminds me of CRATE TABLE nosql(id INT, key BLOB, value BLOB);
* workmad3
just realised that link_type BLOB gives you so much power over the traditional VARCHAR(255) link type... you could make systems that used images for link types!
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<IceDragon>
workmad3: I'm evil, employing my junior to work in the factory ;3
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<jhass>
I'm not sure that's what factories are for... :P
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<IceDragon>
me neither, I never got programming patterns correct /:
<workmad3>
factories are for creating instances
<IceDragon>
well I got that right then 3:
<jhass>
call it Manager and stare at everybody who asks wth that is until they go away
<IceDragon>
workmad3: Doesn't that make every Class in ruby a factory?
<IceDragon>
:O
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<workmad3>
IceDragon: I'm just not sure if it fits the 'design' we were talking about :P
<workmad3>
IceDragon: pretty much, yes
<IceDragon>
workmad3.class.new :3
<jhass>
I don't think factories are supposed to have state beyond what they need to construct an object
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<jhass>
tracking instances seems wrong, backreferencing the factory from the target class seems veeery wrong
<IceDragon>
jhass: It means I probably combined a Factory and Manager then D:
<jhass>
Manager I made up :D
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<yh>
I have required a file defining class Foo::Bar::JSON. I have also required "json" from stdlib. Inside Baz::Qux, I have a method referring to JSON. It resolves to Foo::Bar::JSON instead of ::JSON. How could this be?
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<workmad3>
yh: !fake
<workmad3>
drats
<workmad3>
Please do not use fake values, as they can be confusing or misleading. Sometimes both
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<IceDragon>
yh: did you include Foo::Bar into Baz::Qux?
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<IceDragon>
yh: When in doubt just use ::ConstantName for referencing top level constants
<workmad3>
yh: by 'cracked it' do you mean 'use ::JSON'? because that doesn't really answer the question of 'why has this happened?' that you originally asked :P
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<IceDragon>
workmad3: Kneel before huuuman
<IceDragon>
*me huuuman
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<workmad3>
IceDragon: :)
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<yh>
workmad3: it was the damn include, which I didn't notice. :)
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<workmad3>
yh: heh
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<IceDragon>
yh: Its always include!
<IceDragon>
.-. include ist ewil!
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<yh>
Does the standard Logger use synced File IO?
<yh>
It doesn't seem to be buffering
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<ytti>
i'm quite opinionated about logging
<ytti>
and feel everything should be syslog
<ytti>
and sent to centralized boxes, which preferably are syslog-ng, and do something like server/program.log
<ytti>
with warn and higher level messages aggregated to server/important.log
<yh>
how about buffering ytti
<yh>
autoflush log messages?
<ytti>
then you'll mount the centralized servers as readonly to where ever you need the logs
<yh>
buffering log messages seems to go against the idea
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<ytti>
that is not really important to me
<ytti>
that is, messages always have appeared 'fast enough' on my syslog files
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<havenwood>
!hangman gems
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<niKeITA>
hello
<havenwood>
niKeITA: hi
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wow
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<apeiros>
havenwood: can't let us hang like that
<havenwood>
apeiros: busy checking out the gem's code! :P
<havenwood>
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<havenwood>
"The funky git aware remote syncer."
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