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<sandelius>
I'v just ported a a Rails app to Sinatra+ActiveRecord. Now my tests are running very slow (rspec). Does Rails do something "magic" speed up tests (not counting spring) ?
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<shevy>
don't think this can be the issue
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<Cork>
is there anyway one can get a.rb to process the data outputted from b.rb "live"?
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<ineb>
hello, iam a bit confused. 'puts "true" if "foo".casecmp("FOO")' makes sense to me. however, 'puts "true" if "foo".casecmp("BAR")' also prints true
<ineb>
okay, i did not read the documentation right.
<apeiros_>
casecmp returns -1, 0 or 1. all those values are truthy.
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<apeiros_>
also, please be aware that casecmp only cares about ascii chars (A-Z), it does not properly compare letters from other scripts (like ä <-> Ä)
<ineb>
thats not what i wanted. i wanted true if the strings are equal, regardless of case
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<ineb>
maybe i just put them do .downcase and then do comparing
<apeiros_>
casecmp(other).zero?
<apeiros_>
well, casecmp is the more efficient solution. it can short circuit.
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<ineb>
the behaviour seems alien to me.
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<ineb>
but i get it
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<apeiros_>
ineb: well, familiarize yourself with it then :) it's the standard behavior of cmp methods in many languages.
<apeiros_>
and <=> in ruby behaves like that too.
<ineb>
good to know
<apeiros_>
some are less restrictive, i.e. instead of strictly returning -1, 0 and 1, they return <0, 0, >0
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<apeiros_>
which enables writing things like in js: sort(function(a,b) { return b-a })
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<ineb>
apeiros_: i need a match if 0 or 1
<ineb>
so .zero? alone would not be enough
<apeiros_>
that's not "when they're equal"
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<ineb>
what i want is true if they are equal regardless case
<apeiros_>
that's "when they're equal or b (in a.casecmp(b)) is larger"
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<BraddPitt>
For moving from Ruby onto a low level language, would you suggest Go or C? I know that learning C would have the benefit of being able to read ruby source, but curious to hear thoughts
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<shevy>
wow
<shevy>
I just discovered this in old code I wrote: attr_reader :case
<shevy>
BraddPitt on my todo list is C this year
<BraddPitt>
I have the K&R book but im very tempted to learn Go
<shevy>
and the more people know C, the better it would be for ruby. Python is also written in C, Perl too, I think Lua and PHP also
<BraddPitt>
true
<shevy>
yeah Go is probably better from a technical point of view
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<wasamasa>
BraddPitt: similiarly sucky type system and uniform look
<BraddPitt>
I write java day to day wasamasa for work
<wasamasa>
BraddPitt: well, great
<apeiros_>
BraddPitt: depending on your needs - I'd go with C if you just want to learn a low level language. I'd go with go if you also want fun and it's not too bad if you don't pick up a mainstream language.
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<shevy>
Nim is completely different
<wasamasa>
BraddPitt: decide whether you need to know it then :P
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<apeiros_>
"low altitude fighters on radar! thousands of them!"
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<shevy>
lol
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<Morrolan>
Would at least give the flak something to shoot at. ;D
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<apeiros_>
I got my doubts that they can shoot at that angle
<apeiros_>
flak is a german term, no?
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<Morrolan>
Like many German words, the Englishmen happily stole it, I think. :)
<apeiros_>
oh, what? it's the same in english? how come? I thought it was an abbreviation in german…
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<apeiros_>
ah, yeah, makes sense. kindergarten blitzkrieg.
<Morrolan>
Panzerfaust
<Morrolan>
No, that one wasn't stolen, sory.
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<apeiros_>
why on earth did I decide to make this website adaptive to window size? soooo much work…
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<Morrolan>
Yes, it is. Nice for mobile clients, though.
<Morrolan>
(And slightly less annoying than creating two separate layouts)
<apeiros_>
not just for mobile clients. I have 7 actively supported sizes
<Morrolan>
Haha.
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<apeiros_>
so it doesn't look like a huge empty space on a 27" or is scrolltasia on a 13"
<apeiros_>
I mean it was a bit of work to fit the sizes at first. now I added a gallery - and noticed I had to make the images adapt in size too…
<apeiros_>
so preview + full size I have now all pics in 14 different sizes, dynamically loading the proper size depending on window size…
<apeiros_>
it's nice. but… so. much. work. :(
<Morrolan>
Personal project, or are you working on a Saturday?
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<apeiros_>
private project. I maintain the website of a spa and get free massages in return :D
<apeiros_>
well, private as in: not for the company I work for.
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<Morrolan>
Haha, I see.
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<shevy>
hanmac, do your bindings also allow .tar.xz archives?
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<hanmac>
shevy normaly it should but i need to rewrite it for newer rubies
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<sandelius>
I'v just ported a Rails app to Sinatra+ActiveRecord. Now my tests are running very slow (rspec). Does Rails do something "magic" to speed up tests (not counting spring) ?
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<shevy>
hmm I wondered
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<shevy>
can a webpage be stored in a .pdf file? :D
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<jhass>
shevy: sure, it's all just text after all
<jhass>
it makes no sense at all to do it, but yeah
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<shevy>
do you remember the old playable fantasy textbooks?
<shevy>
like that linked to other pages, with choices
<sandelius>
is there any performance difference between activerecord vs sequel ?
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<wasamasa>
sandelius: that question doesn't make much sense
<wasamasa>
sandelius: what exactly is there where either can have degraded performance?
<wasamasa>
sandelius: after all, they create SQL queries and since they're ORMs, they're bound to be less efficient than handcrafted queries
<sandelius>
wasamasa yeah of course it wont be as efficient. Just wondering why many people are switching over to Sequel. It looks pretty much the same
<wasamasa>
sandelius: it looks a whole lot simpler to use
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<jhass>
less features == less stuff to break
<jhass>
so if you don't need ARs functionality, why pull in its debt
<jhass>
especially since it pulls in activesupport too
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<shevy>
hanmac,
<shevy>
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::length_error'
<shevy>
what(): basic_string::append
<shevy>
Aborted
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<banister>
hanmac ltns
<shevy>
I'll just file a new issue
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<hanmac>
shevy like i said i need to rewrite it, but i didnt had the thyme yet
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<Indian>
doesnt that array in that code always need to be refered by @array?
<jhass>
Indian: why capture the block? why not use yield?
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<Indian>
I was learning from a session and the code is like that
<Indian>
haevnt learned yield yet
<jhass>
huh, weird to introduce it that way around
<Indian>
but I thought you need to refer to array by @array
<Indian>
since it is a instance variable
<jhass>
how about array.length.times do |i| ?
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<Indian>
he referes to array without @symbol
<jhass>
do you know what attr_reader does?
<Indian>
that was my question
<Indian>
yes
<Indian>
accessor
<Indian>
read accessor
<jhass>
a few more words maybe?
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<Indian>
to read the variable without modifiying it
<jhass>
okay, to be precise it's a shortcut to writing def array; @array; end;
<jhass>
do you see now where array comes from?
<Indian>
ha
<Indian>
okay
<Indian>
that makes sense
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<Indian>
thanks
<jhass>
you're welcome
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<jhass>
just be aware that whatever you're following doesn't seem to use very idiomatic code in the examples, so maybe come back with your first few own little script to get some style recommendations ;)
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<Indian>
thanks will do
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L
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M
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<arup_r>
How would you write in Ruby 1.8.7 str.gsub(/^\p{Word}/i, '') ?
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<jhass>
I wouldn't write anything in ruby 1.8.7
<arup_r>
ok
<arup_r>
:D
<vonStrauss>
hahaha
<shevy>
arup_r what does this do
<shevy>
arup_r probably you must anchor towards the first non-word character
<jhass>
shevy: I guess 1.8 didn't have \p
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<jhass>
18>> /[[:word:]]+/.match "foo123~"
<eval-in_>
jhass => /tmp/execpad-9fb18c57bf6b/source-9fb18c57bf6b:2: invalid regular expression; [:word:] is not a character class: /[[:word:]]+/ (https://eval.in/300255)
<phale>
sorry, didn't know there were specific rules
<phale>
i corrected myself anyways.
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<shevy>
elfuego you need the API docu
<jhass>
elfuego: "similar" is irrelevant
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<jhass>
code is pedantic, minor details matter
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<phale>
I don't know why but i'm just sad
<phale>
:)
<centrx>
Not according to your happy face
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<shevy>
he has a mask
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<phale>
unaffiliated
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<phale>
if it wasn't for you i'd make that decision On GP
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<atmosx>
Good evening
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<shevy>
yo atmosx
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<atmosx>
hello shevy my friend
<phale>
oh but when shevy says it, it's acceptable?
<phale>
:(
<atmosx>
phale: well, sure.
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<atmosx>
phale: I didn't recall you saying hi though :-P
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<elfuego>
jhass: when I use temp = ga_hit.track_debug! instead of @last_ga_hit[:response] = ga_hit.track_debug! I don’t get the nil exception
<elfuego>
and reference temp instead of @last_ga_hit[:response] throughout the code
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<elfuego>
is there something cheesy with hashes?
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<phale>
yeah
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<phale>
hashes are not made out of cheese, though
<phale>
hashes are made out of love(probably)
<jhass>
elfuego: no, but this just became impossible to debug
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<jhass>
elfuego: !debug-proxy
<helpa>
elfuego: This kind of issue is hard to debug remotely. You should hire someone who can look at your code and figure it out. We are most likely unable to help you in this situation.
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<phaidros>
I am trying to deploy a rails app (https://github.com/frab/frab), as I isntalled wsgi based Rails apps before, I wonder what to tell apache/passenger if there is no wsgi script. any hints how an apache conf would look like for a rails app like frab ?
<atmosx>
But do you think would be better to buy a 'collection' of the stoics by a recent author or start with Seneca's body of work and figure out what I like myself?
<atmosx>
maybe going to the gist is easier/more direct hm
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<atmosx>
jhass: what is aeshna.de and you upload your sshots there?
<arup_r>
atmosx: +1. Yes, I am learning it for Rails ... :D
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<atmosx>
jhass: oh cool, you from Norway right?
<jhass>
atmosx: aeshna.de is just a domain of mine, cloud.aeshna.de I just pointed to uberspace and put an owncloud install there
<atmosx>
iheartkode: cool mate, ty lol
<jhass>
atmosx: nope, germany
<iheartkode>
:p
<iheartkode>
I'm using Hexchat Irc, it's nice for me :)
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<atmosx>
jhass: Ah okay, it figures. You have an owncloud installation? Hm, I was flirting with the idea, but I opted not to add own cloud since I use apple's cal and google for storage.
<iheartkode>
atmosx, what are you working on today?
<atmosx>
jhass: but you're a little bit paranoid iirc.
<phale>
Ruby is Smelly
<phale>
brb
<atmosx>
iheartkode: a small application that will help me manage my pharmacy prescriptions...
<iheartkode>
Oh that sounds fun.
<jhass>
atmosx: mh? I just like self hosting
<iheartkode>
Who here uses Atom Editor?
<atmosx>
iheartkode: it's not actually, it's boring because I already *know* most of the parts I'm writing. It would be good if the code could write itself somehow once you figured it out.
<bradland>
jhass: how are you finding owncloud? i ran an install once, but was really unhappy with the software's polish. random little oddities ran me off.
<jhass>
so I have control over the stuff I use, not just from the privacy point of view but also being able to hack it
<atmosx>
iheartkode: now I'm just pressing myself to finnish it up, polish it and get over with the next one lol
* Nilium
isn't paranoid enough to self-host but is paranoid enough that his website is static HTML.
<iheartkode>
We could pair and it would help me out :P
<jhass>
bradland: I don't really use the webinterface
<atmosx>
iheartkode: on the bright side, I'm adding some JS piece by piece, in the end will probably turn from 80% 20% to the opposite. I'm using Sinatra.
<Nilium>
Plus I'm too lazy to do stuff when Digital Ocean works.
<bradland>
API only, or client apps?
<phale>
php sucks
<phale>
so dont use php
<phale>
keep it static if you have to
* atmosx
uses vim
<iheartkode>
I was messing with Sinatra yesterday
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<jhass>
bradland: screenshots go over sftp and tool puts the right link into my clipboard, everything else clients, yeah
<atmosx>
jhass: Well, and what does owncloud offer exactly?> You could upload sshots via ssh to an httpd public dir...
<jhass>
atmosx: webdav, caldav, cardav basically
<atmosx>
jhass: you can automate the task, etc. Owncloud IMHO is suited for a team of average joes.
<atmosx>
cardav? was ist das?
<atmosx>
oh vcards
<bradland>
like caldav for vcards
<jhass>
wasn't that the name for the vcard/contacts/addressbook stuff?
<atmosx>
jhass: Do you have a smartphone?
<jhass>
sure
<atmosx>
jhass: yes yes I google it.
<atmosx>
jhass: what kind, how do you sync contacts?
<phale>
this isn't even ruby discussion anymore
<jhass>
android, there#s some app that does it fairly nicely
<atmosx>
phale: sferik has a very nice HN posting about the use of symbols in ruby and why it sucks
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<atmosx>
IIRC iheartkode post it on twitter, look at it and tell me what you think
<iheartkode>
Discuss Ruby then?
<Nilium>
I should get some lunch
<atmosx>
jhass: does what? sync with owncloud?
* atmosx
needs to write the 'edit' html forms and it's killing him
<jhass>
atmosx: sync with any caldav/cardav
<phale>
Ruby is a dynamic language created by some japanese dude
<iheartkode>
lol
<iheartkode>
Matz
<atmosx>
jhass: well IIRC owncloud generates urls that should work with iPhones/Androis out of the box
<atmosx>
I mean with the default clients/contacts etc.
<jhass>
iPhone may ship that stuff, but android does not
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<atmosx>
phale: seriously? Javascript was created in 48 hours. It's a BUG.
<phale>
;)
<phale>
exactly
<atmosx>
phale: it's probably the worst designed language ever :-P
<phale>
i dont use it
<atmosx>
not because the guy didn't had skills he was running out of time and had no idea that some idiots will allow it to take over the web eventually ten years later :-P
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<atmosx>
phale: but you should!
<wasamasa>
atmosx: nah, php is still worse
<atmosx>
phale: otherwise your websites will look awful.
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<atmosx>
wasamasa: from JS? that's not possible.
<phale>
atmosx: it is
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<atmosx>
nope
<wasamasa>
atmosx: easily
<wasamasa>
atmosx: js has less that could have gone wrong
<wasamasa>
atmosx: js has a spec
<wasamasa>
atmosx: you can use a sane subset of js to build more interesting stuff
<atmosx>
although generally speaking it's extremely hard to pass through a tv screen the thrill of getting remote access to a remote system... (and receiving a wall message while believing you're alone in there..)
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<jhass>
yeah, the thrill is focussing around the cultural and social issues around it
<atmosx>
jhass: ah I don't think anything of interest for avg joe can be realistically depicted regarding computers in tv.
<atmosx>
yeap
<jhass>
actually does ghost in the shell count?
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<atmosx>
jhass: sure, it's an anime. Is that good? I never took the time to watch an episode...
<iheartkode>
I understand closures in JS. So procs are like closures?
<Prira>
[20:24:37] <jhass> if you absolutely must capture that, STDERR.reopen, but there's no undo for that afaik > .reopen was the solution, thanks! You can undo it by cloning STDERR, reopen it, and restore it with another reopen
<waxjar>
yeah, they're closures
<iheartkode>
Okay
<iheartkode>
That makes sense
<iheartkode>
in JS it's a nested function though
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<iheartkode>
well the closure is a function outside of another function
<bradland>
iheartkode: definitely have a read through that blog post i linked
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<bradland>
you'll like it
<iheartkode>
I will now
<arup_r>
>> flag = false; [1,2,3,4,5,8,10].each { |i| next flag = true if (i.odd? && flag); p i }
<shevy>
[1,2,3,4,5,8,10].map { |i| next flag = false if (i.odd? && flag) }
<shevy>
that flag-based counting looks really odd
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<jhass>
what's that supposed to do anyway
<shevy>
that's another good question
<shevy>
arup_r amassed so many points on stackoverflow
<shevy>
so his code must be good
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<jhass>
mmh, or I finally have an example to prove... something
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<lulzmachine>
Hey… is Opal in use a lot? I’m wondering whether to take the plunge or not :p
<jhass>
why not ask #opal
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<lulzmachine>
yeah sure ill do that. but it has 18 members, so its more likely someone here will have an answer
<jhass>
the other question is whether it actually matters for anything
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<jhass>
I never got the implied causality between usefulness and popularity
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<lulzmachine>
heh yeah
<lulzmachine>
what I really would like is a heartfelt nuanced post-mortem about what Opal is like to use in a project
<lulzmachine>
but that’s harder to come by than “is it popular?"
<c355E3B>
Maby see if anyone has used volt in a largeish project?
<c355E3B>
since AFAIK thats the only consumer of opal
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<lulzmachine>
well yeah but that’s a whole different beast isn’t it
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<c355E3B>
It is, but i havent seen anyone using opal standalone
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<c355E3B>
*haven't
<lulzmachine>
ah okay, that’s a shame
<lulzmachine>
I’m getting really sick of writing javascript for the hobby project
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<lulzmachine>
seems like I can’t avoid it turning into a semi-SPA
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<lulzmachine>
feel like the ideas behind Opal seem pretty solid. but you never know until someone tries to build a whole project around it
<undeadaedra>
try it for yourself then
<c355E3B>
I feel like it will have some of the same issues that dart had
<undeadaedra>
such as?
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<c355E3B>
optimization of the compiled code
<c355E3B>
which may or may not really be an issue
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<c355E3B>
but untill somebody tries something big with it, we won't know
<lulzmachine>
well… I feel like it shouldn’t be THAT big of an issue. im not trying to calculate digits of PI, just rendering some templates and doing some AJAX
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<lulzmachine>
maybe should try to do some coding and see what the opal compiler output is like
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<Someguy123>
hey guys, how do you remove the devkit? I've installed Ruby 2.2 instead of 2.1 and I can't figure out how to remove the devkit properly so I can replace it with Ruby 2.1+devkit
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<paxcoder>
test
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<undeadaedra>
doesn't work
<havenwood>
Someguy123: I think you just go to where you extracted DevKit, edit config.yml to include your new Ruby, then run `ruby dk.rb init` and `ruby dk.rb install`.
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<Someguy123>
havenwood, figured it out, I could just uninstall ruby, delete devkit, then reinstall ruby and put devkit back in
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<helpa>
Hi Someguy123. We in #ruby would really appreciate it if you did not use pastebin during your time with us.
<helpa>
Pastebin is not good because it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use Gist (http://gist.github.com) or Pastie (http://pastie.org) instead. Thanks!
<helpa>
Hi a1fa. We in #ruby would really appreciate it if you did not use pastebin during your time with us.
<helpa>
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<centrx>
a1fa, if you pass the hash to the method, the method can modify the hash and it will be the same one used outside the method
<a1fa>
centrx: i will remember that. this is just a learning exercise
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<a1fa>
centrx: that is very good to know
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<a1fa>
i just need to follow instructions as stated in the tutorials :)
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<a1fa>
and case does same thing what i was trying to do with methods.. thats interesting
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<a1fa>
the reponse gets trapped
<a1fa>
is that normal?
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<centrx>
I'm not sure what you mean
<centrx>
FYI your choices method calls itself recursively
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<centrx>
So if you keep running the app and make choices, you will eventually end up using more and more memory / crash the program
<a1fa>
;)
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<Phage>
There's a gem for making user interaction through CLI a bit prettier, but I can't remember the name?
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