#ruby on 2015-03-12 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-03-07 13:36 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.2.1; 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p643: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on https://gist.github.com || this channel is logged at http://irclog.whitequark.org, other public logging is prohibited

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00:03 <endzYme> anyone really experienced with writing pure ruby applications? I am trying to find a design pattern for integration configurations that makes sense for a Grape API - any recommended reading?

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00:04 <mwlang> bradland and wallerdev: thanks for your input. this should be better: https://gist.github.com/mwlang/30bbbe9f5530afa2c696

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00:07 <mwlang> endzYme: such as…. https://github.com/intridea/grape

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00:11 <endzYme> mwlang: yes that's the framework I'm using. I am wondering if there is a general pattern around handling configs loaded from an outside file. I've been seeing a lot of articles mention making a separate module for storage and reading and also seen metions of writing a dsl for configs

00:11 <endzYme> didn't know if there's some preferred reading im just totally missing

00:11 <endzYme> or maybe overcomplicating it

00:11 <rrrutr> hi, i installed new version ruby with RVM, how can i import gems from previous version of ruby?

00:12 <mwlang> endzYme: Just store config data in yaml files.

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00:12 <endzYme> mwlang: and just use a basic yaml.load_file in scope with the grape app?

00:13 <mwlang> yes. That’s what I would normally do. if the environment matters (development, production, test, etc.) then I’d follow the same convention with rails’ database.yml file.

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00:18 <jhass> rrrutr: rvm help gemset, I think there was a migrate option or something. Check by in #rvm for details

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00:22 <endzYme> mwlang: thanks man - i think i was over complicating it

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00:25 <rrrutr> what is size of ruby team?

00:25 <PapaFrog> rugby?

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00:25 <Bankzy> 15 on the field

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00:26 <centrx> 1500 pounds. 4500 pounds when in Sumo mode

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00:27 <Bankzy> small pack there

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00:28 <jhass> mmh https://github.com/ruby/ruby/graphs/contributors lists surprisingly few

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00:34 <mwlang> jhass: I’m not surprised. It takes quite a bit of dedication to really get good at multiple tools and development environments to build a better language.

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00:35 <jhass> dunno, programming languages are just programs after all

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00:35 <jhass> it's not really more complex than rails for example

00:35 <wallerdev> a lot of fixes came in patch files that were reviewed

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00:35 <jhass> and there's plenty of stdlib to maintain

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00:36 <mwlang> jhass: not saying “more complex” so much as mastering say, both C and Ruby

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00:36 <jhass> still, 35 vs 2,3k for rails? seems way off

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00:37 <mwlang> If I did both C and Ruby every day, I’d probably be good at contributing to Ruby, but I don’t….I do Ruby, HTML, JavaScript, and SQL every day.

00:37 <jhass> Crystal has already 28

00:37 <mwlang> LoC?

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00:38 <mwlang> At least Crystal is moving more and more towards everything written in Crystal.

00:38 <jhass> contributors

00:38 <mwlang> Ah.

00:38 <jhass> Crystal already is entirely written in itself

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00:39 <jhass> http://crystal-lang.org/2013/11/14/good-bye-ruby-thursday.html

00:39 <mwlang> jhass: wasn’t that a recent achievement?

00:39 <jhass> not that recent

00:39 <jhass> see ^

00:39 <mwlang> eh, its been 2 years. doh!

00:39 <mwlang> time flies when you’re not paying attention. :-)

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00:42 <mwlang> anyway, I’m just sayin’ most developers don’t feel comfortable going into the bowels of Ruby, but by contrast, if everything in a library is in their core language, then they’re more apt to dig in and perhaps contribute. That’s the diff, IMHO between contributing to Rails and to Ruby.

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00:43 <centrx> yeah Rails is all written in Ruby so lowers barrier to entry

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00:43 <mwlang> or they’re like me: don’t have the stomach for mastering algos and being rigorous with their discovery, publishing to the community for feedback and then meticulously implementing the PR.

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01:15 <reactormonk> try rubinius then :-)

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01:30 <KevinPath> Hello all

01:31 <ramfjord> hello KevinPath

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01:31 <KevinPath> Hey I was pushed this way because I am currently in the process of learning Ruby

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01:34 <KevinPath> How long have you been programming in Ruby

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01:40 <jhass> if you have a question, just ask, no need for formalities ;)

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02:11 <apoplexy> shevy: thinking of u :]

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02:15 <teedash> hello

02:16 <teedash> (:

02:16 <jhass> hi

02:16 <teedash> hows it going?

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03:32 <avleen> hi folks. i have a long string, which sometimes ends in a bunch of: 'key="value" key="some value" key="blah blah"'. I need a faster option than String.scan() to find and pull out the key/quoted-value pairs.

03:32 <avleen> someone suggested using substr to find the first =, and then working backwards and forward

03:33 <avleen> but that seems more complex and possible slower

03:33 <avleen> anyone have any suggestions?

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04:19 <aiguu> hello~

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04:41 <audiodude> avleen: I don't know if you're still around, but maybe you can use str.index('=') to find the first = and then use scan on a substring

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04:43 <audiodude> like my_str.rindex(' ', my_str.index('='))

04:43 <audiodude> and then substr from the rindex result to the end of the string, THEN scan

04:43 <audiodude> because scan will be operating on a smaller substring that is only the keys and values

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05:06 <agent_white> Evenin'

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05:07 <shevy> yo agent_white

05:08 <agent_white> Heya shevy

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05:08 <vandemar> >> s="abcd ef k1=v1 k2=v2 k3=v3"; r = /^.*?(( \w+=\w+)*)$/.match s; r[1].split(' ').map{|kv| k,v = kv.split('='); {key: k, val: v}}

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05:08 <eval-in_> vandemar => [{:key=>"k1", :val=>"v1"}, {:key=>"k2", :val=>"v2"}, {:key=>"k3", :val=>"v3"}] (https://eval.in/298981)

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05:29 <arup_r> Hi All

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05:30 <havenwood> arup_r: dotfiles!

05:30 <arup_r> yes..

05:30 <arup_r> right away

05:30 <arup_r> havenwood: you are awesome dude

05:31 <arup_r> tell me what need to do to fix it

05:31 <arup_r> havenwood:

05:31 <Radar> havenwood: help me you're my only hope

05:31 <havenwood> arup_r: bash or zsh or other?

05:31 <arup_r> bash

05:31 <havenwood> see any PATH= in your .bashrc, .profile or .bash_profile?

05:32 <havenwood> if so, what?

05:32 <arup_r> Radar: Write one book on Spree... I will try to be the first reader and buy the book.. :)

05:32 <arup_r> havenwood: one moment

05:32 <Radar> arup_r: What would a book on Spree be about?

05:33 <arup_r> That's a good question... Need to think..

05:33 <havenwood> arup_r: cat .bashrc .profile .bash_profile | grep "PATH="

05:33 <arup_r> :)

05:33 <sevenseacat> would be about Spree, duh >_>

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05:34 <Radar> arup_r: I would rather write a book showing people how to build a system LIKE Spree.

05:34 <sevenseacat> hey thats a good idea! you should do that

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05:36 <shevy> :D

05:36 <shevy> sevenseacat and you should catch more mice!

05:36 <sevenseacat> :(

05:37 <arup_r> havenwood: https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/ee4478f1f5bf5e91bf5d

05:37 <shevy> I once tried to rewrite the old tutorial from chris pine "learn to program", and add new stuff

05:37 <shevy> but that is really a *lot* of work...

05:37 <sevenseacat> indeed.

05:37 <sevenseacat> writing is hard work.

05:38 <arup_r> Radar: yes... that's a good idea.. and I would like to be a review member of the book.. Spree is awesome unless some one is getting the pulse of it.

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05:38 <Radar> The idea would be to show a more complex application than in any Rails book.

05:38 <arup_r> Radar: Or like a community book like Pro Git..

05:38 <Radar> But show it starting from scratch and evolve it to contain complexity.

05:38 <sevenseacat> it would be a long book

05:38 <Radar> Yes, that's my fear too. It'll be long.

05:39 <shevy> hehe

05:39 <havenwood> arup_r: Remove the `export PATH=~/bin:$PATH` line and add `~/bin` to /etc/paths in the order you want it.

05:39 <sevenseacat> i looked at the amount of content we have in rails 4 in action, and then how much i wanted to put in the rails book i wanted to write.... i had so, so much more for my book

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05:39 <havenwood> arup_r: Otherwise you're good.

05:40 <arup_r> havenwood: I never added those path manually... May be Homebrew did it for me.. so I don't know in which order they should appear

05:40 <havenwood> arup_r: You may also want to check `brew doctor` and adjust /etc/paths accordingly.

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05:40 <havenwood> arup_r: edit: /etc/paths

05:41 <arup_r> one min..

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05:42 <arup_r> havenwood: yes opened..

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05:42 <arup_r> https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/ee4478f1f5bf5e91bf5d#comment-1411193

05:43 <arup_r> in which position should I add it ~/bin ?

05:43 <havenwood> arup_r: if you don't need ~/bin in your PATH, just remove the `export PATH=~/bin:$PATH` line (I don't know what you have in ~/bin).

05:44 <havenwood> arup_r: Look in ~/bin

05:44 <havenwood> arup_r: what's there?

05:44 <arup_r> Radar: if you ever start for such a book on Spree.. Let me know.. If I can help you.. That way I would be learning a lot too..

05:44 <arup_r> ok

05:45 <arup_r> havenwood: https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/ee4478f1f5bf5e91bf5d#comment-1411195

05:46 <havenwood> arup_r: if you use it and want it in your PATH, put it on the bottom of the /etc/paths list.

05:46 <havenwood> or move it to somewhere in your PATH.

05:47 <arup_r> ~/bin ?

05:47 <havenwood> arup_r: do you use aws command line interface? or is it just lingering?

05:47 <arup_r> No.. In my last project I did use

05:47 <arup_r> now that's died

05:47 <havenwood> arup_r: yeah, you can have ~/bin in your PATH if you want. your choice.

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05:47 <havenwood> i don't

05:47 <arup_r> ok..

05:48 <arup_r> havenwood: died means the project is over

05:48 <arup_r> :)

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05:48 <arup_r> So.. havenwood: question is why is it happening.. for only 2.2.0 selection using rvm .. not for the others

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05:49 <havenwood> arup_r: after removing the `export PATH=` line is there an error?

05:49 <havenwood> arup_r: reload your shell

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05:50 <arup_r> ok I didn't remove it.. let me do it..

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05:51 <arup_r> so I'm removing it.. and putting ~/bin in the last /etc/paths

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05:51 <havenwood> arup_r: just use the full path

05:52 <arup_r> yes..

05:52 <arup_r> doing one moment... I need su accees..

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05:53 <arup_r> I can see it in the /etc/path as the second member already..

05:53 <arup_r> so I have to drop it to the bottom right ?

05:53 <havenwood> just remove the line from your dotfiles

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05:53 <arup_r> ok

05:54 <havenwood> arup_r: then reload term and check: printenv PATH

05:54 <arup_r> `export PATH=~/bin:$PATH` right ?

05:54 <arup_r> ok

05:54 <havenwood> yeah, remove that line

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05:55 <havenwood> arup_r: you could append it instead, but it if it's already in the PATH don't: export PATH="$PATH:~/bin"

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05:55 <havenwood> arup_r: PATH is just a colon-separated list of directories.

05:55 <arup_r> doing

05:56 <havenwood> arup_r: If you do `PATH="something:$PATH` you're prepending and `PATH="$PATH:something` for appending.

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05:57 <arup_r> https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/ee4478f1f5bf5e91bf5d#comment-1411202

05:57 <riceandbeans> havenwood: were you the one helping me out the other day on stypi?

05:57 <havenwood> riceandbeans: i think so

05:58 <riceandbeans> havenwood: you're alright man

05:58 <riceandbeans> :)

05:58 <havenwood> arup_r: so the remaining prepended stuff is: /Users/shreyas/google-cloud-sdk/bin:/usr/local/Cellar/postgresql/9.3.4/bin:/Users/shreyas/bin:

05:58 <arup_r> ~/bin not in the PATH havenwood

05:58 <riceandbeans> and I'm buszed

05:58 <havenwood> riceandbeans: ;)

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05:59 <havenwood> arup_r: you can either move that ^ stuff to the end of PATH, remove it from PATH, or leave it where it is an silence the warning.

05:59 <arup_r> that will be a good idea to off the warning.. How to do that ?

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05:59 <riceandbeans> havenwood: you in LA?

06:00 <havenwood> riceandbeans: yup

06:00 <riceandbeans> wish I was man

06:00 <havenwood> arup_r: add `rvm_silence_path_mismatch_check_flag=1` to your ~/.rvmrc

06:00 <riceandbeans> I miss LA

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06:00 <arup_r> ok

06:00 <riceandbeans> bay area sucks

06:00 <riceandbeans> good job market, bad everything else

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06:02 <riceandbeans> havenwood: you ever meet people online that you help get into your company?

06:02 <riceandbeans> I mean, in this channel

06:03 <arup_r> havenwood: thanks .. https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/ee4478f1f5bf5e91bf5d#comment-1411204

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06:03 <havenwood> arup_r: now just grab latest stable for the win: rvm install 2.2.1

06:04 <havenwood> arup_r: good deal

06:04 <arup_r> hahaha.. humm that I have not installed yet.. let me do it

06:04 <havenwood> riceandbeans: of sorts

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06:05 <arup_r> for me rvm list known not showing that version

06:05 <arup_r> of ruby still

06:05 <arup_r> rvm get stable ?

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06:05 <havenwood> arup_r: rvm get head

06:05 <arup_r> ok

06:05 <arup_r> why not rvm get stable ?

06:05 <arup_r> havenwood:

06:05 <havenwood> arup_r: you can install unlisted versions, but nice to grab latest so you have checksums

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06:05 <havenwood> arup_r: haven't released since 2.2.1, soon

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06:06 <arup_r> ok

06:06 <arup_r> doing

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06:08 <arup_r> now some Ruby... :)

06:08 <arup_r> >> [26, 7, 4, 4, 5].map { |n| "#{n}%s" }.join

06:08 <eval-in_> arup_r => "26%s7%s4%s4%s5%s" (https://eval.in/299022)

06:08 <arup_r> any sweet way ?

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06:09 <sevenseacat> err, to do what

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06:10 <arup_r> sevenseacat: me? Yes.. I am creating a format string dynamically..

06:11 <shevy> why is this not a sweet way

06:11 <havenwood> arup_r: Don't forget to close the issue on the Githubs if it's solved.

06:11 <arup_r> yes.. doing

06:11 <arup_r> right away

06:11 <havenwood> ty

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06:14 <arup_r> havenwood: done

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06:15 <havenwood> >> [26, 7, 4, 4, 5] * '%s' + '%s'

06:15 <eval-in_> havenwood => "26%s7%s4%s4%s5%s" (https://eval.in/299024)

06:15 <havenwood> >> [26, 7, 4, 4, 5].zip(['%s'].cycle).join

06:15 <eval-in_> havenwood => "26%s7%s4%s4%s5%s" (https://eval.in/299025)

06:15 <havenwood> >> [26, 7, 4, 4, 5].each_with_object('%s').to_a.join

06:15 <eval-in_> havenwood => "26%s7%s4%s4%s5%s" (https://eval.in/299026)

06:15 <arup_r> havenwood: first one is nice

06:16 <arup_r> thanks

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06:22 <shevy> hmm when you guys arrange code

06:22 <shevy> do you happen to kind of arrange it so that you can read it quickly up-to-down-to-up style?

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06:23 <shevy> because I found that even 80 characters per line may be too long to read

06:23 <shevy> or rather, glance at

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06:29 <havenwood> mm

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06:33 <varunwachaspati> Kindly suggest a data visualization gem comparable to d3.js in ruby

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06:35 <sevenseacat> lol

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06:47 <arup_r> Any way to add trailing zeros like.. when I have "12" I want "12.00" or when I have "12.1" I want "12.10" ?

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06:48 <mozzarella> >> sprintf('%.2f', 12)

06:48 <eval-in_> mozzarella => "12.00" (https://eval.in/299070)

06:48 <mozzarella> >> sprintf('%.2f', 12.1)

06:48 <eval-in_> mozzarella => "12.10" (https://eval.in/299071)

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06:49 <arup_r> Is it so easy...

06:49 <arup_r> :)

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06:52 <arup_r> mozzarella: thanks

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06:52 <mozzarella> np

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06:53 <norc> Hi. I have various XML documents with known structures, and would like to have a library that lets me describe that structure, and create hashes or objects from the XML based on my description.

06:54 <arup_r> nokogiri norc

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06:54 <norc> arup_r: Does Nokogiri have a mechanism beyond xpath to accomplish this?

06:54 <arup_r> yes CSS

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06:55 <arup_r> It allows to create a XML/HTML doc or if you have already one.. then it will allow you to chew it as much as you want..

06:55 <norc> arup_r: I will take a look at it thank you. I mean I have a simplistic case without any properties in nodes (It is just nodes and text values)

06:56 <certainty> moin

06:56 <arup_r> o/ certainty

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07:08 <arup_r> havenwood: there ?

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07:09 <havenwood> ya

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07:10 <arup_r> Well.. I need this to install http://mailcatcher.me/ what this line is doing I understood partially rvm default@mailcatcher --create do gem install mailcatcher

07:10 <arup_r> can you bit ?

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07:11 <havenwood> i don't actually use gemsets, i'd just: gem install mailcatcher

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07:12 <arup_r> ok

07:12 <arup_r> then let me go that away

07:12 <arup_r> **way

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07:13 <havenwood> if you want to use RVM without gemsets just add `export rvm_ignore_gemsets_flag=1` to your .rvmrc.

07:14 <arup_r> havenwood: I use gemsets for rails

07:14 <havenwood> arup_r: some people like gemsets and swear by them. i find i get by fine with Bundler.

07:15 <sevenseacat> some people also like stapling things to their faces.

07:15 <sevenseacat> there's no explaining some people.

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07:15 <agent_white> I like to dance. But who doesn't like dancing?!

07:15 * agent_white boogies

07:15 <havenwood> i don't like stapling things to my face. i get by just fine wearing sunglasses.

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07:16 <sevenseacat> :P

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07:17 <flughafen> moin sevenseacat arup_r certainty

07:18 <arup_r> flughafen: o/

07:18 <sevenseacat> guten Morgen

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07:19 <flughafen> du sprichst so gut deutsch sevenseacat

07:19 <flughafen> \o

07:19 <sevenseacat> hah

07:20 <flughafen> meetings so many meetings

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07:20 <arup_r> flughafen: I don't have a single one.. I'm useless

07:20 <sevenseacat> ich spreche deutsch... schlecht

07:20 <flughafen> i like it when you speak deutsch to me

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07:21 <flughafen> arup_r: normally i'm not invited to meetings unless it's our agile stuff

07:21 <flughafen> so don't think ik'

07:21 <arup_r> ok

07:21 <flughafen> i'm cool enough to have meetings

07:21 <sevenseacat> ich lerne langsam.

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07:23 <flughafen> arup_r: you're german?

07:23 <arup_r> no.. Indian

07:23 <flughafen> or no, it's wasamasa that's german

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07:25 <flughafen> meeting time, l8r dudes and dudettes

07:26 <sevenseacat> auf wiedersehn.

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07:26 <wasamasa> yes I am

07:27 <norc> So. Here is a random thought, is there a way to force irb into a mode where everything is "public" (all instance methods etc) ?

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07:27 <norc> Some kind of debug mode that makes introspection easier

07:27 <norc> *instance variables that is

07:28 <norc> :p

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07:39 <shevy> norc since irb follows ruby model

07:39 <shevy> the keyword public issued at the beginning should turn all subsequent method definitions into public

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07:40 <shevy> @instance_variables itself have nothing to do with public - only methods have, which can return @ivars

07:40 <shevy> sevenseacat you speak cat-german!

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07:41 <shevy> sort of weird to have someone with a nick called "flughafen" (airport)

07:41 <sevenseacat> i speak only as much as i learnt from like two levels of duolingo

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08:08 <jasabella> hi

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08:09 <shaquile> Anyone looking for a job opening in Stockholm, please pm me. We are in urgent need for ruby developers.

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08:21 <jasabella> shaquile... will the employer sponsor a junior? :D

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08:30 <SebastianThorn> shaquile: Sinch?

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08:52 <shevy> would we be more productive in ruby if ruby would be simpler?

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08:54 <SebastianThorn> shevy: i think that ruby is kinda simple

08:54 <lxsameer> shevy: simpler than this ?

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08:55 <SebastianThorn> shevy: any specific area that you'd like to be more simple?

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08:56 <shevy> yeah

08:57 <shevy> lots of small things - Dir[] vs. Dir.glob()

08:57 <shevy> different ways to use regexes; MatchData, =~ //

08:57 <SebastianThorn> shevy: the regex is true, agree on that :)

08:57 <shevy> the artificial distinction between class and modules; include can be applied on modules, not classes but subclassing is sort of similar to include-functionality

08:58 <shevy> then there are things like Proc.new and lambda - when to best use that?

08:58 <shevy> @@class_vars

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08:59 <shevy> a newcomer has quite a lot to learn

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09:00 <shevy> there is .class_eval .instance_eval also .module_eval I think ... let me search

09:00 <shevy> http://apidock.com/ruby/Module/module_eval

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09:00 <shevy> I did not know about .module_eval a few weeks ago :)

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09:01 <shevy> the distinction seems arbitrary to me though

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09:01 <shevy> you also have .class_eval

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09:01 <shevy> SebastianThorn I think if I have to name a single area, then I think it would be documentation. The documentation of ruby should be much much better

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09:02 <SebastianThorn> i think i dont use ruby as much as you do :)

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09:02 <shevy> well

09:02 <shevy> I sort of use a subset of ruby

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09:03 <shevy> like, use the good pieces

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09:03 <shevy> I love blocks!

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09:04 <shevy> include is also cool

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09:09 <hanmac1> shevy did you know that /regex/ =~ under special circumstances can create local variables?

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09:09 <shevy> ack

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09:09 <shevy> how is that possible?

09:09 <shevy> it uses a = right?

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09:11 <hanmac1> shevy:

09:11 <hanmac1> >> /(?<x>\d+):(?<y>\d+)/ =~ "2:30" ? x.to_i * 60 + y.to_i : nil

09:11 <eval-in_> hanmac1 => 150 (https://eval.in/299175)

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09:11 <shevy> typical hanmac1 code

09:11 <shevy> I don't know what this is

09:11 <hanmac1> shevy see the power or named capture groups used in regex literals ;P

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09:17 <shevy> how is a named capture group created

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09:17 <shevy> it is a (?) construct?

09:17 <shevy> I know that () in itself is a capture group

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09:17 <shevy> I swear I never want to maintain code written by hanmac :>

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09:21 <hanmac1> shevy: ?<name>

09:21 <hanmac1> inside ()

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09:22 <shevy> aha

09:22 <hanmac1> shevy also nice:

09:22 <hanmac1> >> require "scanf"; "2:30".scanf("%d:%d").inject(0) {|s,n|s * 60 + n}

09:22 <eval-in_> hanmac1 => 150 (https://eval.in/299201)

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09:26 <arup_r> How would I hadle this calculation .. https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b750c04bbc25179dbd83#file-mail-html-erb-L12 Idea please...

09:26 <arup_r> price is Spree::Money object with a currency set.. how would I do summation ?

09:27 <arup_r> It wouldn't allow me to sum with a Fixnum object...

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09:28 <norc> shevy: Sorry for the late response, thank you for the information.

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09:29 <norc> On a related note, when I looked at the text of the documentation of "instance_variable_set" at http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.1/Object.html

09:29 <vandemar> arup_r: sum an array of Spree::Money? reduce?

09:29 <norc> Is that supposed to be a joke?

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09:29 <shevy> norc what part do you mean with a joke?

09:29 <arup_r> vandemar: Cool idea

09:29 <shevy> the method allows you to arbitrarily or programmatically generate @ivars

09:30 <shevy> norc the wording is weird indeed

09:31 <norc> shevy: ;)

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09:31 <shevy> in like 99.5% of the time you won't need that method, but sometimes you may need it

09:31 <norc> shevy: Yeah, I actually have need of it to do some meta programming. Well ok, not need - but it saves me some time. :)

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09:31 <shevy> I sometimes combine instance_variable_get() or at least remove_instance_variable() when I don't want all @ivars lateron

09:32 <shevy> replace my 99.5% with 99.9% :)

09:32 <shevy> oh interesting

09:32 <shevy> I found one use case

09:32 <shevy> form.rb: end; Form.instance_variable_set('@mode', DEFAULT_FORM_MODE)

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09:32 <shevy> I forgot why I needed to have a @mode variable there though lateron

09:33 <shevy> the docu is weird really

09:33 <shevy> "Sets the instance variable named by symbol to the given object, thereby frustrating the efforts of the class's author to attempt to provide proper encapsulation."

09:33 <shevy> ruby did not have strong encapsulation because the philosophy is that people should be able to do what they want to, if they want to

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09:34 <shevy> hence why .send() used to be able to invoke everything, until someone suggested to see a distinction between private and public, so .public_send() was added (which I hate, it's way too long to type!)

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09:36 <avril14th> hello

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09:51 <arup_r> avril14th: o/

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09:52 <arup_r> vandemar: worked

09:52 <arup_r> thanks

09:52 <avril14th> yo arup_r, howdy?

09:52 <arup_r> avril14th: Doing Spre,, and Spree...

09:52 <adaedra> Hello

09:53 <arup_r> I'm developing an e-commence site where I'll sell only cats... shevy: said me to build it.

09:53 <arup_r> adaedra: wowowowow

09:53 <arup_r> :D

09:53 <adaedra> wow

09:53 <adaedra> :)

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09:54 <avril14th> that could work, but troubles lie in the logistics

09:54 <avril14th> plus, it's a cool business

09:54 <avril14th> since it's easy to capture tons of cats

09:54 <avril14th> and sell them back to their owner

09:55 <agent_white> A catnapping business!!

09:55 <arup_r> hehehehe

09:55 <adaedra> What’s the difference between #ruby and #ruby-lang ? oO

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09:55 <arup_r> the latter one is old

09:56 <avril14th> "#{TEST_DIR}/parsed_total_price/#{hash['country'].downcase}/#{hash['language'].downcase}/#{}--[#{hash['total_price']},#{hash['tax_rate']},'#{hash['currency']}']"

09:56 <avril14th> oups, wrong button

09:56 <arup_r> people those who got old(in Ruby) ... they joined there

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09:56 <arup_r> ;)

09:56 <adaedra> ok

09:57 <arup_r> adaedra: old measn all *Pro* people

09:57 <arup_r> :D

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10:01 <shevy> arup_r lol

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10:01 <shevy> arup_r don't think you can become rich by trading with cats

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10:01 <shevy> neighbors here try to breed mancoons or whatever the name is

10:02 <shevy> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/MaineCoonSilverTabby.jpg

10:02 <shevy> they look like mammoths right?

10:02 <arup_r> wow

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10:20 <arup_r> I need https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-output-tx ,,,, But my code is not working,, pointer please

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10:21 <workmad3> arup_r: looks reasonably obvious to me... you're not passing enough format parameters for this line: https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-error-L5

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10:22 <arup_r> well.. I see the price is the one.. How would i add it to the dynamic format string >

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10:22 <workmad3> arup_r: and considering that just a couple of lines up, you're giving format_string 6 arguments, then you're constructing another string with those 6 and an extra arg, but only passing one format parameter...

10:23 <workmad3> arup_r: tbh, I can't quite see why you're embedding format_string in that line

10:23 <arup_r> workmad3: https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L5 I'll remove it is not needed

10:24 <arup_r> workmad3: this is the header -- https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L4

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10:24 <arup_r> and then the content is coming https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L13

10:24 <arup_r> rest all are variables

10:24 <workmad3> arup_r: yeah, it kinda looks like all you want there is 'Shipping & Handling <%= Spree::Money.new(0, currency: "INR").to_s %>

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10:24 <workmad3> arup_r: yeah, unsurprisingly I can see all that

10:24 <arup_r> well leave that.. part

10:25 <workmad3> arup_r: but that's not where the error is coming from

10:25 <arup_r> I have to build this output -- https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-output-tx

10:25 <workmad3> arup_r: the error is happening 2 lines *after* the end of your loop

10:25 <arup_r> error is from https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L13

10:25 <workmad3> arup_r: on the shipping and handling line

10:25 <workmad3> arup_r: no it's not

10:25 <workmad3> arup_r: read your stacktrace

10:25 <arup_r> ok

10:25 <arup_r> let me re read

10:26 <arup_r> sorry got it

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10:26 <arup_r> :p

10:26 <workmad3> arup_r: you're gonna have the same issue on your Grand Total line, btw

10:26 <arup_r> yes I got it now

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10:29 <arup_r> workmad3: error removed.. But the thing is table is not forming up as I want ... I got it as https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-got-txt

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10:30 <arup_r> updated gist

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10:32 <arup_r> https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-got-txt updated

10:32 <workmad3> arup_r: so your format_string isn't correct... debug it and figure it out :P

10:32 <arup_r> humm

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10:37 <arup_r> All <spaces> are being compressed into one single space...

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10:57 <shevy> that is efficient

10:57 <shevy> imagine all humans being compressed into one

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10:57 <arup_r> Oh! god not able to manage it

10:57 <shevy> you could store them on a USB stick right away!

10:57 <arup_r> me??

10:57 <shevy> yes if you can store them into one :)

10:58 <adaedra> I come back and read about compressing all humains into an USB stick

10:58 <adaedra> I’m confused

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11:00 <workmad3> shevy: ah, the classic compression idea that just doesn't work (because of quantum)

11:00 <shevy> the schroedinger cat is for real, I tell you

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11:01 <shevy> you just don't know in which state it is until you get to see her

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11:01 <workmad3> shevy: oh great, I now have in my head the 'transgender schroedinger cat experiment'... you don't know what gender the cat is until you open the box

11:01 <shevy> haha

11:01 <shevy> transgender

11:02 <shevy> you may be the first to wonder about a transgender schroedinger cat

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11:03 <workmad3> shevy: but the thought experiment I was referring to was more along the lines of - imagine you can create a coding scheme for all human knowledge that turns it into a single number (which we know is possible)... now take that number and turn it into a fraction between 0 and 1... now cut a 1 metre long stick to *exactly* that fraction of a metre, you've just stored the entirety of human knowledge in that one

11:03 <workmad3> stick

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11:04 <workmad3> shevy: of course, it's a thought experiment that relies on a classical physics perspective, where the idea of being able to cut a stick to a perfectly exact length isn't complete nonsense :)

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11:05 <shevy> now I am confused

11:06 <arup_r> workmad3: Noit able to figure.. the email engine compressing all the spaces to a single spacwe

11:06 <workmad3> arup_r: did you look at your format string?

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11:06 <arup_r> yes..

11:06 <workmad3> arup_r: before you've performed any substitutions

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11:07 <workmad3> arup_r: and did you then double-check your format specifiers and flags against the sprintf docs?

11:08 <workmad3> arup_r: i.e. the very first thing you should do when you encounter a format string that isn't formatting as you expected

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11:08 <workmad3> shevy: what's confusing about it? :)

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11:10 <arup_r> workmad3: all the simple things are failing... too see this https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L16 and I got it https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-got-txt-L7

11:10 <arup_r> where are my all in between spaces.. ?

11:10 <arup_r> :(

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11:11 <workmad3> arup_r: ok, so the answer to my previous questions was unanimously 'no'

11:11 <workmad3> arup_r: you haven't checked what your unsubstituted format_string is, you haven't double-checked it against docs... you've done 0 work on figuring it out

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11:12 <arup_r> yes.. As the simple ones are not working .. so I got confused.

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11:13 <arup_r> inspecting width first... Lets see what's going on there..

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11:18 <arup_r> workmad3: this is the format string I am getting "26%s7%s4%s4%s5%s"

11:18 <workmad3> arup_r: and what do you notice wrong with that? :P

11:18 <adaedra> man sprintf :˚

11:18 <arup_r> checking.. reading

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11:18 <arup_r> http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Kernel.html#method-i-sprintf

11:18 <arup_r> I'm reading

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11:20 <thebatu1> def caption full=false

11:20 <thebatu1> + full ? "#{'–'*depth} #{name}" : name

11:20 <thebatu1> end

11:20 <thebatu1> hello all. can someone explain this code for me plz ?

11:21 <adaedra> what part of it don’t you understand ?

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11:21 <thebatu1> i dont get the if clause full ? "#{'–'*depth} #{name}" : name

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11:21 <arup_r> workmad3: got it - The width specifies the minimum number of characters that will be written to the result for this field.

11:22 <thebatu1> image

11:22 <adaedra> the « x ? y : z » form ?

11:22 <arup_r> So.. what's the way to go ?

11:22 <workmad3> arup_r: wrong

11:22 <arup_r> :(

11:22 <workmad3> arup_r: or rather, your statement is right, but it's not actually your issue

11:23 <workmad3> arup_r: read the docs again... what's the format string for, say, a 20-character wide string?

11:24 <adaedra> thebatu1: the « x ? y : z » form ?

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11:24 <arup_r> workmad3: got it

11:24 <arup_r> :)

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11:25 <thebatu1> what is #{'–'*depth}

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11:25 <adaedra> ah, this

11:25 <thebatu1> its not a smily :)

11:25 <adaedra> string interpolation

11:25 <arup_r> width came before `%`.. which should go after `%` :p

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11:25 <workmad3> arup_r: woo! finally! :P

11:25 <arup_r> hehehe

11:25 <arup_r> got one cup of coffee ,.. then

11:25 <adaedra> often, it’s the most stupid errors we spend the most time upon

11:25 <tobiasvl> >> puts "#{'–'*3}

11:26 <tobiasvl> oh no

11:26 <adaedra> >> puts %('-'*3)

11:26 <eval-in_> adaedra => '-'*3 ... (https://eval.in/299263)

11:26 <workmad3> tobiasvl: y u hate eval? :(

11:26 <adaedra> >> puts %(#{'-'*3})

11:26 <eval-in_> adaedra => --- ... (https://eval.in/299264)

11:26 <adaedra> (stupid me)

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11:26 <tobiasvl> workmad3: hehe. just forgot the closing quote :(

11:27 <workmad3> tobiasvl: ya... and now eval will be sitting there, waiting for a closing quote that will never arrive

11:27 <workmad3> poor eval :(

11:27 <tobiasvl> >> "

11:27 <eval-in_> tobiasvl => /tmp/execpad-295618dd10cb/source-295618dd10cb:6:in `raise': exception object expected (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/299265)

11:27 <tobiasvl> there

11:27 <workmad3> :D

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11:27 <arup_r> workmad3: but the other issue is there still..

11:28 <adaedra> thebatu1: it’s #{} or '-'*depth the problem ?

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11:28 <arup_r> my header string https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L3 and in output why all spaces are gone https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-got-txt-L3 ?

11:29 <thebatu1> the '-'depth. I think the #{} means to replace a predefined value.

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11:29 <adaedra> replacement, yes.

11:29 <adaedra> predefined, depends on what you means by that.

11:30 <thebatu1> ahh ok its just multiplay - by the depth

11:30 <adaedra> http://www.rubydoc.info/stdlib/core/String#%2A-instance_method

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11:30 <thebatu1> so lets say depth is 3 then I will have ---

11:30 <adaedra> yes

11:30 <adaedra> like the eval above

11:30 <thebatu1> ok I think I need a coffee break. thanks :)

11:30 <adaedra> you’re welcome.

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11:34 <arup_r> WTH format is doing ? :(

11:34 <adaedra> its work

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11:34 <arup_r> for me.. NO

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11:34 <arup_r> see this https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-got-txt-L3 where the spaces are https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/b883a9b74046151aaaec#file-mail-html-erb-L3

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11:36 <adaedra> what does `format_string` looks like ?

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11:38 <arup_r> adaedra: leave format string.. see the plain vanila string...

11:38 <arup_r> that's got compressed

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11:40 <adaedra> and he left.

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11:52 <adaedra> arup_r: what are you generating ? A web page ?

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11:52 <arup_r> No.. text email

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11:53 <adaedra> Your gist is generated text or copied/pasted from a web client ?

11:53 <adaedra> -web +mail

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11:54 <arup_r> copy pasted from the mailcatcher web interface

11:54 <adaedra> which is html

11:54 <arup_r> I am using mailcatcher to test emails format in developement mode

11:54 <adaedra> so spaces are squeezed

11:54 <arup_r> no.. it is text

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11:55 <adaedra> try to output the mail directly to console if possible

11:56 <adaedra> I think your interface displays it as HTML and so squeeze spaces

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11:56 <arup_r> would you like to see screenshot ?

11:57 <adaedra> Or

11:57 <adaedra> Look in the page source code if you have the spaces

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11:59 <adaedra> Because the unasked spaces being squeezed make me think of that

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11:59 <arup_r> humm.. I'am also thinking so.. I did check view source there is nothing as it is plain/text version

12:00 <adaedra> But I see MailCatcher has plain text display tab, it should display correctly there

12:00 <adaedra> mmmh

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12:01 <arup_r> humm... but not displaying which are inside the ERB tag

12:01 <adaedra> ?

12:01 <adaedra> can you, before the mail is sent, dump it verbatim to a file and check the contents there ?

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12:03 <adaedra> By the way, your method to compute column widths seems off to me

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12:04 <arup_r> adaedra: Well.. But now all concern is white spaces

12:04 <arup_r> how those are getting squeezed

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12:04 <adaedra> Have you the raw mail dump?

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12:20 <arup_r> adaedra: no

12:20 <arup_r> how to get it

12:20 <arup_r> ?

12:20 <adaedra> I don’t know what is your stack, but you should be able to place the mail content in a file at some point, no ?

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12:24 <arup_r> I am using Rails

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12:25 <arup_r> let me check in normal plain file

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12:26 <workmad3> arup_r: hmm... is the template in your project really a .html.erb file?

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12:26 <workmad3> arup_r: like you're showing in the gist?

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12:27 <shevy> I can show pics!

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12:27 <arup_r> no

12:28 <arup_r> .text.erb

12:28 <arup_r> in the gist it is my typo.. came through habbit.. but it is .text.erb

12:28 <adaedra> but mails are HTML by default

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12:30 <adaedra> Anyway, if your goal is to send mails, why not just output an HTML table ? It should be way easier - of course, if you don’t require plain output

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12:31 <arup_r> adaedra: But I need to send both...

12:31 <adaedra> That’s a problem then

12:31 <adaedra> :)

12:31 <shevy> mails are html?

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12:32 <shevy> need to try <blink> or <marquee>

12:32 <arup_r> this text part is something wired

12:33 <arup_r> see this is not mis behaving https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/1ae986bcc7f28abc6aec

12:33 <arup_r> But Mailer does wrong thing

12:33 <adaedra> shevy: may work in Outlook Express

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12:34 <shevy> hahaha

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12:34 <adaedra> For marquee, blink is netscape iirc

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12:35 <workmad3> arup_r: have you checked if it's the mailer that's doing the wrong thing, or something displaying the email?

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12:36 <arup_r> sorry... displaying :)

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12:37 <adaedra> arup_r: do you include the header for plain-text in the mail ?

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12:37 <adaedra> (Mails are such shit to generate :( )

12:37 <arup_r> yes I did

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12:38 <arup_r> one thing I found is ERB added `\n` at the end https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/1ae986bcc7f28abc6aec#file-out-L2

12:38 <arup_r> Humm

12:38 <adaedra> it’s normal

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12:39 <arup_r> humm

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12:39 <adaedra> You surely have a \n in your .erb file

12:39 <workmad3> arup_r: it's sounding like your mail viewer is screwing up the display, tbh

12:40 <adaedra> arup_r: try to send the mail for real, and with mail client, display source

12:40 <arup_r> ruby is handling it nicely.. but in Rails thing are coming buttom which is after <> tag

12:40 <arup_r> https://gist.github.com/aruprakshit/1ae986bcc7f28abc6aec

12:40 <arup_r> adaedra: workmad3: ok

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12:41 <arup_r> workmad3: so.. I'll now push this code.. to the stage.. and will check how is it coming inside the Gmail..

12:42 <arup_r> does it make sense?

12:42 <arup_r> After all my code is not crashing..

12:42 <arup_r> so I can push it..

12:42 <adaedra> or just change the smtp server in your local instance ?

12:43 <arup_r> I don't know what else options are there to test emails...

12:43 <arup_r> I found only this mailcatcher

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12:43 <workmad3> arup_r: if you're in dev mode, you could always have a look at the logs, where the email gets echoed out

12:43 <adaedra> you can use your ISP or regular mail server to send mails

12:44 <workmad3> arup_r: and if you're viewing through a mail client, you could also see if there's a 'view original' or 'view source' option in it too

12:44 <arup_r> workmad3: let me see

12:44 <adaedra> Or, if you have access to outbound 25 port, just rely on sendmail.

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12:44 <workmad3> arup_r: so basically, lots of options

12:45 <adaedra> Yeah, there are the logs too, I forgot they got printed there :x

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12:45 <workmad3> adaedra: it's what I tend to use, tbh :)

12:45 <adaedra> The logs ?

12:46 <adaedra> Yeah, I used that for a while while testing password resets

12:46 <adaedra> But I got tired of it and used letter_opener

12:46 <arup_r> workmad3: Humm.. I am runing production instance on my local to test.. I took data from prod DB and copied it on my local prod db and started server rails s -e production :)

12:46 <workmad3> arup_r: ok... why?

12:47 <arup_r> I got lot of data free to test inspect... etc..

12:47 <workmad3> arup_r: yes... but why run in prod mode?

12:48 <arup_r> I didn't think what you meant to say.. that's why :(

12:48 <workmad3> arup_r: why not point your development db at that data and start in dev mode, so you actually have sane debugging

12:48 <arup_r> I could copy the data to developement table too I see

12:48 <arup_r> can I temporary on logs in production mode too ? workmad3:

12:49 <workmad3> arup_r: probably... but it would take you longer than editing database.yml to point to the prod db

12:49 <adaedra> Juste use development mode ?

12:49 <adaedra> It’s made for development, after all

12:49 <workmad3> ^^

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12:50 <arup_r> Ok ok

12:50 <arup_r> I'll again load data there..

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12:52 <workmad3> arup_r: I repeat, you don't need to do any data reloading

12:52 <workmad3> arup_r: just edit database.yml so that your development database is the one with data in

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12:52 <arup_r> ok

12:52 <arup_r> good idea

12:52 <arup_r> let me point

12:52 <workmad3> arup_r: it's literally less than a minutes work, and it's taken me longer to repeat it... multiple times... than it would take to do it!

12:53 <arup_r> Good and useful idea.. really

12:53 * workmad3 needs food

12:53 <workmad3> hf

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12:59 <gaussblurinc1> hi! I use guard for running tests. How could I exclude some files from watching?

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13:01 <jhass> guard has comprehensive docs, did you check them?

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13:08 <gaussblurinc1> jhass: nope, ok, will look at it, thanks!

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13:21 <gaussblurinc1> jhass: ok, ignore works pretty well, but, how to exclude files (rspec) for both manual and guard testing? Some options in Rspec config?

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13:23 <jhass> probably, did you check rspec docs?

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13:29 <gaussblurinc1> jhass: oh, I checked it, yes, it said about RSpec.configure. Also, I had troubles with web-browsing :(

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13:31 <jhass> https://relishapp.com/rspec/rspec-core/v/3-2/docs/configuration/exclude-pattern

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13:31 <jhass> and I guess the TestTask has a similar option

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13:31 <jhass> I don't think the configure block decides which files to run?

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13:32 <jhass> oh and note that you can put such options into an .rspec file

13:32 <jhass> https://relishapp.com/rspec/rspec-core/v/3-2/docs/configuration/read-command-line-configuration-options-from-files

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13:33 <jhass> https://relishapp.com/rspec/rspec-core/docs/command-line/rake-task#passing-rake-task-arguments-to-the-%60rspec%60-command-via-%60rspec-opts%60

13:34 <jhass> as said, all in the docs

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13:35 <gaussblurinc1> jhass: thanks a lot! I wish internet provider would fix browsing soon

13:36 <surs> Hi, I'm debugging a ruby script that configures another (compiled) application. Now some output isn't going where it's supposed to and I need to debug the ruby script. Is there something I can put into the ruby script that puts me into debug mode?

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13:36 <surs> I don't have a separate ruby environment to test it

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13:37 <gaussblurinc1> surs: ruby -d

13:37 <jhass> surs: can you install additional tools / gems?

13:37 <surs> no, unfortunately I can't

13:37 <jhass> then try ^

13:38 <surs> I just put that on top of the script?

13:38 <jhass> eh actually I'm not sure that even launches a debugger

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13:38 <surs> I don't call ruby. the call is app.exe foo.rb

13:39 <surs> the app holds a ruby 1.9.3 environment apparently

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13:39 <arup_r> I'm really worried that String#% can't add anything to the trailing ,.,, all it does right padding.. :(

13:39 <jhass> okay, I hope you're aware that there will be no security updates to that version anymore

13:40 <arup_r> >> "%10s" % "hi"

13:40 <eval-in_> arup_r => " hi" (https://eval.in/299356)

13:40 <gaussblurinc1> surs: could you mail to author of this app? Or maybe could you write your own app in several hours?

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13:40 <jhass> surs: try require "debug" at the point where you want to break

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13:40 <arup_r> This is causing the problem in my case

13:40 <arup_r> adaedra:

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13:40 <arup_r> I need to use String#ljust

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13:40 <surs> ok. gaussblurinc1 that's not realistic because it's a huge application

13:41 <arup_r> >> "hi".ljust(10, " ")

13:41 <eval-in_> arup_r => "hi " (https://eval.in/299357)

13:41 <arup_r> adaedra: ^^

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13:42 <gaussblurinc1> surs: so, you want to debug binary file that has input parameter .rb script, am I correct?

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13:43 <surs> gaussblurinc1: no I want to debug the ruby script

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13:43 <surs> I'm running start-process app.exe run-ruby.rb $options in powershell

13:43 <jhass> it might be wort investing in getting a dev/test setup

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13:44 <jhass> where you can install additional tools

13:44 <surs> and I want ruby to stop on the first line of the .rb and put me in a cli debugger

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13:44 <surs> yeah, if that's not possible I'll head over to my vm

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13:45 <jhass> but as said, require debug should already give you something basic

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13:46 <surs> unfortunately it doesn't

13:46 <jhass> it needs stdout of course

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13:46 <surs> I see the black app.exe (console) window pop up and then the next call is executed

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13:47 <gaussblurinc1> surs: could this help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3955688/how-do-i-debug-ruby-scripts (especially pry)

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13:48 <jhass> pry + pry-remote would be the external tools I would advise

13:49 <jhass> I think byebug is 2.0+ only so adding pry-debugger and pry-stack-explorer to the mix

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13:49 <surs> pry seems to be what I'm looking for. Unfortunately ps just runs over it...

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13:50 <jhass> thus pry-remote

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13:54 <arup_r> bye

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13:55 <thiagovsk> i'm gay

13:55 <jhass> that's nice

13:55 <arup_r> lol

13:55 <jhass> thiagovsk: how's your ruby going though?

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13:56 <thiagovsk> jhass: majestically awesome

13:57 <jhass> cool, whatcha working on?

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13:57 <mun> Hi

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13:57 <jhass> hi

13:57 <thiagovsk> https://github.com/thiagovsk :*

13:58 <mun> does anyone here use a hosted CI service?

13:58 <mun> i wonder how to get my code deployed to EC2. i'm using codeship and it picks up every commit i push to github/bitbucket. so that's fine

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13:58 <mun> but how should the CI push the code to EC2? or should the EC2 pull from the github/bitbucket repo?

13:59 <jhass> thiagovsk: mmh, I only speak german and english :/

13:59 <thiagovsk> no problem =D

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13:59 <thiagovsk> i love germany

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14:01 <jhass> mun: they seem to have some tutorials for heroku and gapps, maybe you can adapt those?

14:01 <greedo> mun:: you need to write your scripts

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14:02 <mun> Should the scripts just do a git push?

14:03 <mun> To my ec2?

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14:03 <greedo> ideally you run tests

14:03 <mun> Or should the ec2 be alerted to do a pull?

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14:03 <greedo> if tests pass then your machines pull down the new copy of the code

14:03 <mun> greedo but codeship would have done that already, right

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14:04 <mun> That's the purpose of a CI, right?

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14:04 <mun> Sorry I'm very new to deployment

14:04 <mun> It's my first

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14:05 <greedo> ya, so it depends if you want your build and deploy to be automated

14:05 <greedo> fully

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14:06 <greedo> you can have it build and then send you an alert

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14:06 <greedo> so you can deploy manually using a deploy script

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14:06 <mun> greedo right. How would you go about it if your CI was hosted?

14:06 <mun> Just get the CI host run a script to do a push to the ec2?

14:07 <mun> Or rub extra tests?

14:07 <mun> *run

14:08 <greedo> I'm not sure what CI you are using

14:09 <greedo> but with Jenkins you will add it to the build step

14:09 <mun> greedo the pushing?

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14:10 <mun> Doesn't jenkin sit on the side and doesn't fiddle with the prod server?

14:11 <greedo> it depends on your setup

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14:13 <greedo> I have jenkins sitting on my prod server, but that may not be standard

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14:13 <greedo> so in execute shell

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14:14 <greedo> it will run the unit tests

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14:14 <mun> Right

14:14 <greedo> change directories

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14:14 <greedo> and the run the deploy script

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14:15 <greedo> it's a bit different for Travis CI

14:15 <greedo> http://docs.travis-ci.com/user/build-configuration/

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14:16 <jhass> whatever you do, just don't commit secrets to the repo ;)

14:16 <adaedra> this.

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14:19 <minminsanjose> $ brew install ruby

14:19 <minminsanjose> Warning: ruby-2.2.1 already installed, it's just not linked

14:19 <minminsanjose> So how to link it? Thanks

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14:19 <jhass> #homebrew

14:20 <adaedra> man brew

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14:20 <jhass> ##homebrew actually

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14:20 <adaedra> But I think that there is a reason why homebrew doesn’t link ruby, did you read log messages on installing ?

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14:21 <minminsanjose> no log messages

14:21 <minminsanjose> simply says installed but not linked???

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14:26 <adaedra> what I mean, is that if homebrew don’t link something when doing install, it has its reasons, and generally explain it when doing install

14:26 <adaedra> might break stuff

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14:41 <mwlang> I’m getting timestamps from LDAP using the net-ldap gem. Any idea what format this timestamp (string literal) is in? "20150304212145.0Z"

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14:42 <workmad3> mwlang: looks like iso8601

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14:45 <mwlang> workmad3: thanks. Its missing the separators for iso8601, but it does appear to be following that spec otherwise.

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14:45 <danrik> /usr/share/rubygems/rubygems/dependency.rb:298:in `to_specs': Could not find 'sass' (~> 3.2.17) - did find: [sass-3.3.8] (Gem::LoadError)

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14:45 <danrik> ^could someone help?

14:45 <workmad3> mwlang: iso8601 allows you to remove the separators

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14:45 <jhass> danrik: using what command?

14:45 <mwlang> workmad3: I didn’t know that!

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14:46 <danrik> jhass, im just trying to run gulp - and it complains about could not find sass.

14:46 <eonbluez> Ahoy ninjas!

14:47 <workmad3> mwlang: YYYYMMDD is allowed for dates, hhmmss.sss is allowed for times, and the 'T' separating the two is 'permitted to be omitted by mutual agreement'

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14:47 <danrik> jhass, fedora 21 - I've installed compass and sass via package manager....

14:47 <surs> err.. how do I tell pry to step in/out/over ??

14:47 <mwlang> workmad3: and Time.parse "20150304212145.0Z" works just fine. Life couldn’t be easier this fine morning.

14:47 <danrik> jhass, I don't know ruby at all - do people usually install sass and compass form pacakage managers? or via gem commands?

14:48 <workmad3> mwlang: woo :)

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14:48 <workmad3> mwlang: enjoy your easy zulu time while you can ;)

14:49 <jhass> danrik: "gem commands" but which one exactly depends on the project setup

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14:50 <adaedra> danrik: usually gem

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14:50 <adaedra> except many deployment in some places

14:50 <adaedra> maybe*

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14:52 <jhass> danrik: so not sure if you answered my question yet... ;)

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14:53 <jhass> danrik: do you see Gemfile?

14:53 <danrik> jhass, im just trying to use gulp. which in turn requires sass and compass.

14:53 <adaedra> What commande gives you this error ?

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14:54 <jhass> danrik: thing is gulp itself has not a single line of ruby code as far as I can tell

14:54 <adaedra> gulp ? npm install ? bundle install ? gem install xxx ?

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14:54 <jhass> and running plain sass shouldn't yield that error

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14:56 <danrik> jhass, node ./node_modules/gulp/bin/gulp.js

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14:57 <jhass> mmh, weird

14:57 <adaedra> may be a problem with your Gulpfile

14:57 <adaedra> Or one of your dependencies

14:57 <eonbluez> i'm trying to figure out the best way to be able to pass a var that toggles debug, info, or warn for config.log_level in production.rb

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14:57 <jhass> danrik: so no Gemfile in sight?

14:58 <eonbluez> anyone have any experience in managing production.rb with passing vars?

14:58 <danrik> jhass, no.

14:58 <adaedra> But it would be weird for a Gulpfile which install dependencies....

14:58 <adaedra> s/for//

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14:59 <jhass> eonbluez: just ENV["MY_VAR"] || "default" ?

14:59 <danrik> jhass, it then complains "You need to have Ruby and Compass installed and in your system PATH for this task to work."

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14:59 <jhass> danrik: what's your compass version?

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14:59 <adaedra> ah

14:59 <adaedra> I think I understand

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15:00 <adaedra> He seems to look for a given version of sass, but find one that doesn’t satisfy

15:00 <jhass> yeah

15:00 <adaedra> You have to install it manually at the right version with 'gem' command

15:00 <jhass> danrik: make a gist with the output of gem list please

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15:02 <danrik> jhass, http://fpaste.org/197137/14261725/

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15:02 <jhass> huh

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15:02 <jhass> can you add gem env please?

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15:02 <jhass> and which sass and which compass

15:02 <adaedra> o_O

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15:03 <danrik> ive never used ruby before. srry :( just trying to figure out why gulp script from another dev doesnt compile...

15:03 <jhass> something's itchy in your setup

15:04 <jhass> we got to figure out what

15:04 <danrik> does anyone here uses linux + gulp + sass + compass?

15:04 <adaedra> next time ask him to write a Gemfile for simpler operations…

15:04 <jhass> danrik: whining won't fix your setup, answer my questions please

15:04 <danrik> jhass, yep - I don't see sass and compass i that lsit - if that's what you're asking:)

15:05 <jhass> I'm asking for the output of the following commands:

15:05 <jhass> gem env

15:05 <jhass> which sass

15:05 <jhass> which compass

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15:05 <danrik> jhass, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/197140/72739142

15:06 <adaedra> I’m still confused about a Gulpfile which would call rubygems like that

15:06 <adaedra> Usually, they use sass though libsass or sass binary

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15:06 <jhass> what about the other two commands?

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15:07 <jhass> danrik: ^

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15:08 <danrik> jhass, they arent found. I've removed those packages.

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15:08 <danrik> jhass, should I reinstall them using ymu?

15:08 <jhass> ugh no

15:08 <jhass> but please, at least tell us your actions

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15:08 <danrik> jhass, srry

15:08 <jhass> debugging your setup while you're constantly changing it without telling is very difficult

15:09 <jhass> danrik: now run the following: gem install sass compass

15:09 <jhass> as your user, not with sudo, not with root

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15:13 <danrik> jhass, sry. i've just got pulled on urget task:(

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15:15 <danrik> jhass, Error installing compass:

15:15 <danrik> ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.

15:16 <jhass> danrik: full outpiut to a pastebin please

15:16 <danrik> jhass, http://fpaste.org/197154/14261733/

15:16 <jhass> danrik: sudo yum install ruby-devel then try again

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15:18 <danrik> jhass, success. 4 gems installed.

15:18 <danrik> http://fpaste.org/197156/14261734/

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15:18 <jhass> the the gulp stuff again

15:18 <jhass> *try the

15:19 <danrik> jhass, awesomer awesome to the max. no errors this time.

15:19 <danrik> jhass, thank u - you're a lifesaver!

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15:26 <hs366> Q: Hi, I'm testing this class and im getting error: value should be string, what is the type of args in this case: https://gist.github.com/hs366/ce0c42d0a696f1c8b74c#file-gistfile1-rb-L19

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15:27 <ericwood> I'd add a puts that outputs the type of args[0]

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15:28 <ericwood> puts args.map(&:class)

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15:28 <ericwood> >> args = [1, 'hi']; args.map(&:class)

15:28 <eval-in_> ericwood => [Fixnum, String] (https://eval.in/299404)

15:29 <hs366> ericwood, thx i'll test it

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17:25 <Daneel> hi

17:25 <jhass> hi

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17:26 <Senjai> Hello Ruby

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17:27 <Daneel> i am absolutly newby about ruby

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17:28 <Daneel> i have this hash structure : http://pastebin.com/TjZAYC9V

17:28 <helpa> Hi Daneel. We in #ruby would really appreciate it if you did not use pastebin during your time with us.

17:28 <helpa> Pastebin is not good because it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use Gist (http://gist.github.com) or Pastie (http://pastie.org) instead. Thanks!

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17:29 <Daneel> so i have this structure https://gist.github.com/anonymous/daa0434021891b52c665

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17:29 <Daneel> and i would like to get the value in name or pass or redir

17:29 <Daneel> how is it possible ?

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17:30 <jhass> Daneel: what's acl?

17:30 <jhass> a method, a variable?

17:30 <jhass> what does it return/contain?

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17:30 <Daneel> it contains an hash

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17:30 <jhass> same for name, pass, redir

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17:30 <Daneel> same what ?

17:30 <jhass> >> { acl => { name => "foo" } }

17:30 <eval-in_> jhass => undefined local variable or method `acl' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/299526)

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17:30 <jhass> see ^

17:31 <jhass> their values most come from somewhere

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17:31 <Daneel> i am realy newby so perhaps i misunderstood structure in my array

17:31 <jhass> well, we can only work with what you show

17:32 <jhass> the thing you showed does not run

17:32 <arup_r> Daneel: No prob

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17:32 <Daneel> when i reread the array i think it is missing a value for the key acl

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17:33 <jhass> ?

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17:33 <Daneel> the name of key is acl but without value associated

17:33 <Daneel> no ?

17:33 <jhass> doubt it

17:33 <jhass> as said acl is a method call or a local variable

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17:33 <jhass> "acl" would be a string

17:33 <jhass> :acl would be a symbol

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17:33 <Daneel> my goal is to group by group of 3 elements name, pass and redir

17:33 <jhass> 'acl' would be a string too

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17:34 <Daneel> name have a value

17:34 <Daneel> pass and a value

17:34 <Daneel> redir have a value

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17:34 <Daneel> acl is just for a container

17:34 <Daneel> a group of 3 elements

17:34 <jhass> hash keys must be objects

17:35 <jhass> >> { "acl" => {"name" => "value" } } # this works

17:35 <eval-in_> jhass => {"acl"=>{"name"=>"value"}} (https://eval.in/299529)

17:35 <jhass> >> acl = "a"; name = "b"; { acl => {name => "value" } } # this works

17:35 <eval-in_> jhass => {"a"=>{"b"=>"value"}} (https://eval.in/299530)

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17:35 <jhass> >> { acl => {name => "value" } } # this does not

17:35 <eval-in_> jhass => undefined local variable or method `acl' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/299531)

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17:38 <Daneel> this is better https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0060cc922902d57d74b ?

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17:39 <jhass> yes, a lot

17:39 <jhass> well, name, pass and redir still are undefined

17:40 <jhass> but at least you eliminated the possibility of overriding your hash key over and over again

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17:40 <Daneel> so if we supose they are defined somewhere else

17:41 <jhass> >> {name => "a", pass => "b", redir => "c", the_names_do_not_matter => "d" }

17:41 <eval-in_> jhass => undefined local variable or method `name' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/299535)

17:41 <Daneel> how to get the value of name ?

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17:41 <jhass> p name for example

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17:41 <Daneel> p name ?

17:42 <jhass> p is like puts but for the developer, not for the user

17:42 <jhass> >> puts "foo"

17:42 <eval-in_> jhass => foo ... (https://eval.in/299536)

17:42 <jhass> >> p "foo"

17:42 <eval-in_> jhass => "foo" ... (https://eval.in/299537)

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17:43 <Daneel> i saw here it exist key "function" : http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.5/Hash.html

17:43 <Daneel> and it looks to exist also value "function"

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17:44 <jhass> that page has a single mention of the word function and it's completely unrelated, so maybe you can understand that I'm not following you there

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17:44 <Daneel> yes i used function with code to explain it is not function

17:45 <Daneel> s/code/quote/

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17:45 <Daneel> better to say method ?

17:45 <jhass> yes, but I'm not sure that's relevant here

17:46 <jhass> Do you know what a string is and what a local variable is?

17:46 <Daneel> in the page i linked they use h.key(100)

17:46 <jhass> yes

17:46 <Daneel> key is a method that return the key associated with the value 100

17:46 <jhass> yes

17:46 <eam> h.key(LOCAL_MACHINE)

17:47 <Daneel> i what the method to get the value associated with a key

17:47 <workmad3> Daneel: you want fetch

17:47 <jhass> or plain []

17:47 <jhass> >> h = {"a" => "b"}; h["a"]

17:47 <eval-in_> jhass => "b" (https://eval.in/299539)

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17:48 <Daneel> hhhoooo

17:48 <jhass> http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.5/Hash.html#method-i-5B-5D

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17:48 <jhass> http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.5/Hash.html#method-i-fetch

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17:49 <Daneel> i try it

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17:49 <Daneel> in fact i does not practive ruby. i try to create a puppet template

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17:49 <Daneel> in a puppet template we can use ruby

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17:50 <Daneel> puppet user here ?

17:50 <jhass> yes but it also does a crap ton of magic

17:50 <jhass> maybe you're better in #puppet

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17:50 <Daneel> perhaps

17:50 <Daneel> but my question i due to i don't know ruby at all

17:51 <jhass> maybe learn a bit plain ruby first?

17:51 <jhass> http://tryruby.org

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17:52 <Daneel> it works

17:53 <Daneel> i fetched values

17:53 <Daneel> thank you guys

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17:57 <Daneel> bye bye have a nice day

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18:00 <hackeron> hey, I have a long running process that uses eventmachine and the amqp gem. For some reason, the memory of this process is leaking around 1% memory per day - it is currently at 6% memory and growing :/ - any ideas what I can do to try to detect the cause of the leak of the running process?

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18:03 <jhass> hackeron: have a look at ruby-prof or rbkit

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18:04 <hackeron> jhass: any examples how to use either on a running process?

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18:05 <jhass> uh, doubt you can unless you have a way to inject arbitrary ruby code

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18:06 <jhass> best would be to find a repro in a test env

18:06 <hackeron> jhass: yeh, I can't reproduce in a test environment :/

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18:12 <hackeron> jhass: rbkit looks interesting - will try that, thank you!

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18:18 <bradland> hackeron: you can hook in to New Relic's Ruby API as well: https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/agents/ruby-agent/background-jobs/monitoring-ruby-background-processes-daemons

18:19 <hackeron> bradland: ooooooh, that's very interesting! - thank you for that!

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18:24 <hackeron> bradland: hmm, this is not custom background jobs, this is message processing - so now quite sure where to add the newrelic in this code: http://pastie.org/10021479 -- any ideas?

18:24 <hackeron> not*

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18:26 <bradland> in that case, you'll have to do your own custom metrics

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18:27 <bradland> https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/agents/ruby-agent/features/ruby-custom-metrics

18:27 <bradland> at that point, you might as well just use some simple form of logging, IMO

18:27 <hackeron> bradland: I have logging - I just don't understand why memory is growing over time

18:27 <bradland> newrelic gets you pretty graphs and such, but you're looking for something really specific

18:27 <bradland> yes but *what* are you logging? logging any GC stats?

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18:28 <bradland> what version of ruby are you using?

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18:28 <hackeron> bradland: no, not entirely sure what to log to detect this leak and ruby 2.2.0

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18:29 <bradland> sry, in and out. phone call

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18:29 <hackeron> bradland: can't newrelic log all memory allocation and show a graph?

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18:42 <arup_r> I am adding the dir `so` to the load path.. then why getting error when tried `ruby -Iso -e "puts $LOAD_PATH.first"` ?

18:43 <arup_r> undefined method `first' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)

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18:44 <eam> arup_r: you need single quotes

18:44 <eam> $LOAD_PATH in double quotes in your shell is interpreted by bash

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18:44 <arup_r> is it? let me try

18:45 <eam> that command reduces to: ruby -Iso -e'puts .first'

18:45 <eam> and puts() returns nil

18:45 <arup_r> well.. you are right

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18:46 <hanmac> ping shevy

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18:46 <shevy> hanmac hey

18:47 <arup_r> Then why this worked inside "" --- ruby -e "p [].empty?"

18:47 <hanmac> shevy check this out: http://minderheiten-quartett.de/ XD

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18:48 <arup_r> after -e flag inside the string should not things will be considered as Ruby code? eam :

18:48 <eam> arup_r: in your shell, "" interpolates $VARIABLES and certain other special metacharacters

18:49 <eam> it's done before the command is executed

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18:49 <eam> "p [].empty?" is actually the literal string, in bash

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18:49 <eam> try calling something using a ! in the double quoted string though -- you'll see it break

18:49 <eam> ruby -e"exit!"

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18:49 <eam> vs ruby -e'exit!'

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18:50 <jhass> or -e 'exit\!'

18:50 <eam> $, ! are both evaluated by bash in a "", but not in a ''

18:50 <jhass> or -e "p \$LOAD_PATH"

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18:50 <eam> or echo ruby -Iso -e "puts $LOAD_PATH.first"

18:50 <eam> to see the command bash actually ends up running

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18:52 <eam> or (heh) LOAD_PATH='$LOAD_PATH'; ruby -Iso -e "puts $LOAD_PATH.first"

18:52 <jhass> I should search for that on Github

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18:52 <arup_r> search for what ?

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18:53 <jhass> bah, damn "intelligent" search

18:53 <arup_r> ok..

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18:54 <arup_r> you guys are ruby rocker

18:54 <arup_r> not me :(

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18:55 <shevy> I rock

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18:55 <shevy> you rock

18:55 <shevy> we rock

18:55 <shevy> the ruby rock

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18:55 <jhass> who's paper and who's scissors?

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18:55 <arup_r> I can require in command line.. I know.. like I did.. But can we do require relative in like require in shell ?

18:56 <arup_r> I think no we can't do

18:56 <arup_r> me is neither

18:56 <shevy> arup_r require what in a shell? you mean in a shell script?

18:56 <arup_r> no,,, ruby

18:56 <jhass> arup_r: -r'./foo'

18:57 <arup_r> that is a require only.. by using relative path

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18:57 <arup_r> :)

18:57 <shevy> ah you mean as direct invocation from a shell like bash

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18:57 <arup_r> humm

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19:04 <eam> arup_r: you can always just call require_relative() from within the -e

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19:05 <arup_r> humm.. that's true

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19:10 <havenwood> or: ruby -I "$PWD" -e "require 'xoxo'"

19:10 <jhass> ruby -I. is as good

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19:11 <havenwood> 5 or more characters better :P

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19:11 <havenwood> jhass: but then "." is in your $LOAD_PATH as opposed to a full path

19:11 <havenwood> Think of the children!

19:11 <jhass> yeah

19:12 <jhass> well, the sane version is to do none of these

19:12 <jhass> so what gives

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19:12 <havenwood> ah, i've heard about this "sanity" thing

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19:12 <adaedra> sanity is for the weak

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19:13 <jhass> <3 https://github.com/jhass/github_desktop_notifications runs rock solid with todays patches to crystal

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19:13 <havenwood> nice

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19:28 <phale> "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself."

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19:28 <elfuego> i’m using Net::HTTP.post_form(uri, params) to post to an endpoint but its returning a 302, when I use the raw url from a rest client I get a 200

19:29 <phale> elfuego: is any chance the uri you're using http but it's actually https?

19:29 <havenwood> elfuego: the latter is following the redirect

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19:30 <havenwood> elfuego: you have to manually follow redirects with Net::HTTP

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19:30 <phale> exactly, that's how unextensible it is

19:30 <phale> afk

19:30 <elfuego> havenwood: how can I follow the redirect?

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19:30 <elfuego> with Net::HTTP

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19:32 <mwlang> is carrierwave’s documentation on testing out of date? I can’t seem to use the have_dimensions, be_no_larger_than, etc. matchers as described.

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19:32 <havenwood> elfuego: check the response and when it redirects manually proceed to the response['location']

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19:32 <phale> mwlang: "be_no_larger_than"

19:33 <phale> sounds like shitty variable naming

19:33 <havenwood> elfuego: or use a Net::HTTP wrapper like RestClient that does redirection for you

19:33 <phale> or method

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19:33 <jhass> phale: how so?

19:33 <mwlang> either that or rspec is causing the uploader to return a string rather than the uploader itself because its giving me this error: expected http://placehold.it/346x421 to respond to `has_dimensions?`

19:33 <phale> jhass: well look at it

19:33 <phale> it pains my eyes to look at it

19:33 <jhass> I did

19:33 <jhass> how so?

19:33 <phale> it's lengthy for no reason

19:33 <mwlang> phale: heh, take that one up with carrierwave folks. :-p

19:33 <havenwood> elfuego: or something not based on Net::HTTP like HTTP, HTTPClient, Excon, Typhoeus or others.

19:34 <phale> mwlang: sure whats their mailing list

19:34 <elfuego> thank havenwood will check it out

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19:34 <elfuego> thanks*

19:34 <havenwood> elfuego: no prob

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19:34 <phale> def !> #not larger than end

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19:34 <mwlang> phale: https://github.com/carrierwaveuploader/carrierwave/issues

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19:35 <havenwood> elfuego: I like to use HTTP or HTTPClient rather than deal with Net::HTTP. Others just love the stdlib so they backbend a bit.

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19:35 <havenwood> Lovely gems are lovely.

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19:36 <phale> I dont get gems

19:36 <phale> how can you view their source code

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19:36 <jhass> phale: $EDITOR $(gem which gemname)

19:37 <phale> hmm

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19:37 <mwlang> so anyway….back to my issue…if I change the expectation to look at the uri instead of using “has_dimensions” then I get back the actual uploader instance as I was originally expecting!

19:37 <phale> also, I tried to do: s = gets.chomp

19:37 <phale> but if I EOF i will get a nomethoderror, this is normal, ruby handles the exception

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19:37 <phale> how do i get rid of that

19:37 <jhass> don't chomp when it's nil

19:37 <havenwood> phale: `gem open gem_name_here` to open in an editor

19:38 <phale> while s = gets.chomp != nil

19:38 <havenwood> phale: gem contents gem_name_here

19:39 <phale> havenwood: what about the rest of the files?

19:39 <havenwood> phale: ^ contents

19:39 <phale> ah

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19:39 <havenwood> phale: e.g.: cat `gem contents rake`

19:40 <phale> seems a lot of work just to edit a file

19:40 <mwlang> phale: how about reading it all at once: lines = File.read(‘some_file.txt’).split(“\n”)

19:40 <phale> mwlang: i'm not reading a file

19:40 <havenwood> phale: this is a lot of work?: gem open gem_name

19:40 <havenwood> phale: oh

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19:41 <phale> sounds like ruby isn't my kind of language anymore :-(

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19:41 <havenwood> was going to say, you can shorten it to `gem op gem_name` but that's as short and sweet as it gets, but you're talking about #gets

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19:42 <havenwood> phale: why aren't you fickle?

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19:42 <phale> havenwood: i'm using C

19:42 <phale> i just dont feel at home with ruby

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19:42 <havenwood> phale: Ruby is the pride and joy of C hackers.

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19:42 <havenwood> phale: But maybe not your thing.

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19:42 <havenwood> phale: Matz is a C hacker.

19:42 <phale> while (s = gets.chomp) != nil

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19:43 <phale> this probably wont work

19:43 <phale> still gives me an exception

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19:43 <wasamasa> havenwood: so is tenderlove

19:44 <weaksauce> phale a check for nil is not needed

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19:44 <weaksauce> there are only two falsey values nil and false in ruby

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19:45 <weaksauce> and it will not ever end phale because "" is never false

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19:45 <jhass> weaksauce: gets returns nil on EOF (Ctrl+D) actually

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19:46 <weaksauce> I was thinking from interactive

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19:47 <phale> yeah

19:47 <phale> i just want to handle this all my self

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19:47 <weaksauce> phale why not read a file line by line using ruby idioms?

19:47 <jhass> as said, just don't call chomp on nil

19:47 <jhass> it's gets that returns nil, not chomp

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19:47 <phale> weaksauce: seriously what the fuck

19:47 <phutchins> Anyone good with decoding binary? I'm trying to reverse engineer an encoded mongo BSON::ObjectId and get the data out of it. I'm able to get an array of bytes which looks something like [84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17] but not sure what the next step is...

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19:48 <pontiki> ruby is not for you!

19:48 <phutchins> There is a date, hostname and pid encoded in that string... :)

19:48 <baweaver> phutchins: ASCII?

19:48 <jhass> phutchins: do you have the actual values your example should transform to?

19:48 <havenwood> phale: do you get what jhass is saying?

19:49 <adaedra> there’s pack and unpack for that, no ?

19:49 <bihi> hi people, do you know if there's any reason Object methods are defined in Kernel which is included in Object, instead of directly in Object?

19:49 <weaksauce> phale while s = gets.chomp is c written in ruby

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19:49 <phutchins> jhass: So I can get the date from built in methods so I coudl get that. And I know where the code is that creates the strings...

19:49 <weaksauce> thinking about it like you are doing null terminated strings

19:49 <phutchins> For example, https://github.com/mongodb/bson-ruby/blob/master/lib/bson/object_id.rb <- you can see the def generation_time, it does have an unpack

19:50 <weaksauce> phale that's what the fuck

19:50 <phale> i'm getting user input

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19:50 <phale> how is it hard to understand

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19:51 <pipework> phale: How isn't it?

19:51 <phale> s = gets.chomp

19:51 <banister> apeiros sup guy

19:51 <phutchins> baweaver: Thats partially where i'm struggling is identifying what i'm getting back so I can get to the next step... I start with a BSON::ObjectId that looks like this.. .ObjectId("54b311369113006bbe000011")

19:51 <phale> how the hell is that easy to confuse with files?

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19:51 <phale> im not even using an argument for file input or anything

19:51 <havenwood> phale: don't chomp nil

19:51 <apeiros_> banister: not much. killing a headache. and you?

19:51 <phale> havenwood: yeah

19:51 <phale> but how do i avoid doing that

19:51 <baweaver> Looks like Hex

19:52 <phutchins> phale: check for nil before doing chomp

19:52 <banister> apeiros need help with polymorphis associations :(

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19:52 <phale> >> [84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17].map {|c| print c.chr }

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19:52 <apeiros_> banister: you've bad timing :-p but ask away

19:52 <phale> wheres the bot

19:52 <phutchins> s = gets; s = s.chomp unless s.nil?

19:52 <jhass> phutchins: https://github.com/mongodb/bson-ruby/blob/master/lib/bson/object_id.rb#L369

19:52 <jhass> there's your format

19:52 <havenwood> phale: but less verbose!

19:52 <apeiros_> jhass: cheater! :D

19:53 <phale> wheres the bot??

19:53 <baweaver> >> [84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17].map(&:chr)

19:53 <eval-in_> baweaver => ["T", "\xB3", "\x11", "6", "\x91", "\x13", "\x00", "k", "\xBE", "\x00", "\x00", "\x11"] (https://eval.in/299558)

19:53 <baweaver> It didn't like your input I guess.

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19:53 <phale> ;(

19:53 <banister> apeiros heh, ok, basically i want my User models to be both something that can be commented ON and also the author of comments (where comments are polymorphic)

19:53 <phale> yeah this looks like nonsense

19:53 <baweaver> it's touchy on occasion.

19:53 <banister> apeiros comments BY a user i want to just access via user.comments but comments ABOUT a user i want to access via user.notes

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19:53 <phale> >> [84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17].pack("C*")

19:53 <eval-in_> phale => "T\xB3\x116\x91\x13\x00k\xBE\x00\x00\x11" (https://eval.in/299559)

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19:53 <phale> ;)

19:54 <jhass> >>[84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17].pack("C*").unpack("N NX lXX NX")

19:54 <eval-in_> jhass => [1421021494, 2433941611, 48747, nil] (https://eval.in/299560)

19:54 <banister> apeiros i currently have this, is this legit? https://gist.github.com/4c346c7a30b4d1ae34ef

19:54 <phale> looks like a pseudorandom number generator to me

19:54 <apeiros_> banister: doesn't sound polymorphic

19:54 <jhass> >> Time.at([84, 179, 17, 54, 145, 19, 0, 107, 190, 0, 0, 17].pack("C*").unpack("N NX lXX NX")[0])

19:54 <eval-in_> jhass => 2015-01-12 00:11:34 +0000 (https://eval.in/299561)

19:54 <baweaver> Well then

19:54 <banister> apeiros cos comments can be on many different things, aside from users

19:54 <baweaver> jhass wins

19:54 <havenwood> phutchins: if you're doing explicit #nil? checks you can probably make it more concise and idiomatic by using truthyness

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19:54 * baweaver never deals with pack / unpack, wonders the reason to bother.

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19:55 <havenwood> baweaver: was just doing a manual #pack #unpack "Q*" in Crystal and really missed the shortcut

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19:55 <synt_> like i was saying, all software/programs and hardware sucks

19:55 <synt_> not trying to offend anyone though even my programs suck

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19:55 <havenwood> synt_: standing on the shoulders of giants

19:56 <mwlang> baweaver: yeah, two days in a row this subject comes up…unless you’re talking to your serial port on a Raspberry Pi, I don’t quite fathom the point.

19:56 <adaedra> synt_: thank you

19:56 <phutchins> jhass: AH! Ok closer. I get an array of int's back. no hostname tho :) maybe thats what the hostname was entered as tho

19:56 <jhass> synt_: show us some of your ruby though!

19:56 <synt_> there are things that are less shittier than others, thats why we use it

19:56 <synt_> okay

19:56 <apeiros_> banister: seems fine, what's the problem?

19:56 <phutchins> havenwood: yeah could definitely be more concise

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19:56 <jhass> phutchins: machine_id != hostname I'd say

19:56 <baweaver> impostor syndrome is a bad trap to fall into

19:56 <synt_> >> "38".unpack("C*")[0].to_i + ''.methods.length

19:56 <eval-in_> synt_ => 219 (https://eval.in/299562)

19:57 <jhass> phutchins: ah, mh https://github.com/mongodb/bson-ruby/blob/master/lib/bson/object_id.rb#L332

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19:57 <baweaver> Yeah, I tend to only bother with high level ruby so very rarely does that come up for me.

19:57 <jhass> phutchins: so it's the MD5 hash of the hostname

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19:57 <synt_> as you can see

19:57 <synt_> my code is absolutely horrific

19:58 <jhass> phutchins: 32 bits of it that is

19:58 <phutchins> jhass: ah yes! ok so i'd have to know the hostnames and compare...

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19:58 <adaedra> >> puts ”Hello World!”

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19:58 <baweaver> best piece of advice: You are not your code.

19:58 <synt_> did you just insult me?

19:58 <Outlastsheep> synt_: he reassured you cx

19:58 * baweaver sighs

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19:58 <Outlastsheep> You said it was horrific, he said you are not.

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19:58 <synt_> exactly

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19:59 <baweaver> Mate, the amount of my early code that I've burned and buried is just as vast as any

19:59 <phutchins> jhass: so the fun part about this is that I'm dealing with a forked version of the BSON library that does decode the hostname string in the mongo object id :)

19:59 <baweaver> It's about where you go from there that matters.

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20:00 <phutchins> jhass: so i'm trying to learn how the orig version works and then figure out how to pull the hostname string from the modified version i'm working with now

20:00 <baweaver> bemoaning your current skill does little good, you just need to press on

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20:01 <jhass> phutchins: it would help to know the original hostname, but I doubt there's a full one in the bytes you've shown, it's a bit short for that

20:01 <phutchins> jhass: the one I'm workign with decodes the substring like so... return Math.floor(BinaryParser.decodeInt(this.id.substring(7,9), 16, false, false));

20:01 <banister> apeiros so that code looks correct?

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20:01 <phutchins> (this is javascript, yes i know)

20:01 <banister> apeiros nothing, i haven't tried it yet

20:01 <synt_> http://wklej.org/id/1661044/

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20:02 <phutchins> jhass: and it's encoded like so... var MACHINE_ID_STR = BinaryParser.encodeInt(MACHINE_ID, 24, false);

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20:02 <apeiros_> banister: from a glance, yes. but I'm not so fluent in AR that I can write those things by heart.

20:02 <synt_> data-driven

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20:02 <jhass> phutchins: I have not the slightest idea how BinaryParser operates

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20:03 <banister> apeiros dude you've been programming rails for 15 years, you should know this shit!!!

20:03 <banister> ;)

20:03 <synt_> see that code?

20:03 <synt_> absolutely horrific

20:03 <jhass> phutchins: but something is odd, substring is 7, then read 9 right? or is it 7 to 9 so just two bytes?

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20:03 <apeiros_> banister: the amount of non-trivial AR is minimal

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20:04 <jhass> synt_: giving s a proper name would help a lot already

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20:04 <synt_> yeah!

20:04 <phutchins> jhass: yeah that was throwing me off too. DOn't understand hwo that could hold a hostname

20:04 <synt_> but why?

20:04 <synt_> it's short, stands for "string"

20:04 <jhass> synt_: another thing is using warn instead of STDERR.puts

20:04 <synt_> i see no reason to lengthen it

20:05 <jhass> synt_: string is not a nice name though, a good name describes the datas purpose, not its type/structure

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20:05 <phutchins> jhass: i'm digging...

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20:06 <jhass> phutchins: as you see I have no clue about JS, so answering an or question with yes doesn't help me much :P

20:06 <baweaver> Instead of constantly saying your code is horrible, just ask people to give you advice on improving it

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20:06 <baweaver> No reason to be dramatic about it.

20:06 <jhass> baweaver: they already dropped out

20:06 <baweaver> ah, missed it.

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20:06 <jhass> yeah, had the next bit already typed :/

20:07 <baweaver> why people are so self deprecating is insane to me

20:07 <baweaver> ah well

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20:10 <apeiros_> odd choice of mongo for an object id

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20:10 <apeiros_> it's 19 byte as far as I understand - so longer than a UUID and less good

20:11 <jhass> yeah, it's seems to be a badly executed UUID

20:11 <jhass> I'm sure yorick can explain why it exists :P

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20:13 <benlieb> Hey folks, I'm having trouble installing chruby on my new ubuntu machine at work. The install instructions here seem to "suceed" and yet, chruby is not available https://github.com/postmodern/chruby

20:13 <apeiros_> jhass: I'm sure yorick can explain how and in how many ways it sucks :D

20:13 <benlieb> Is this a known problem with a workaround, or am I a sad unicorn

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20:13 <baweaver> Here's a slight curiosity: why is Ruby less used for system administration at companies like Apple and Facebook? I get Google with Guido on staff.

20:14 <baweaver> It's not even really used much around here except on our team.

20:14 <shadoi1> baweaver: I work at apple. Just sayin.

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20:14 <baweaver> I was seeing Python in one of their requirements

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20:14 <shadoi1> depends on the team

20:14 <baweaver> though it may be that they're as fragmented as us in that regard :P

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20:15 * baweaver is at Sony in SF

20:15 <shadoi1> very.

20:15 <baweaver> Had a recruiter pinging me for a devops role over there

20:15 <baweaver> another one over at facebook

20:15 <baweaver> just noticed python is getting mentioned a lot more often

20:16 <baweaver> Not that I don't know it, I just tend to prefer Ruby.

20:16 <shadoi1> You can thank openstack for that

20:16 * baweaver googles

20:16 <postmodern> benlieb, make sure you have chruby loaded

20:16 <postmodern> benlieb, and restart the terminal

20:16 <baweaver> that'd do it

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20:17 <baweaver> You'd think Chef and friends would have a bit of pull on that

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20:17 <shadoi1> they do, but a LOT of people think it's insane to run ruby as root. ;)

20:17 <baweaver> and AWS is about as neutral as you can be on APIs (Ruby, JS, Python, etc)

20:17 <baweaver> granted.

20:17 <baweaver> though I think it's insane to run anything as root

20:17 <baweaver> but that's a different matter

20:18 * baweaver puts on tinfoil hat

20:18 <shadoi1> yeah

20:18 <phutchins> jhass: Ok, this all makes sense now. The way it's encoded now is not in string format as I was told, it is also an md5 of the hostname... So i wasn going down the wrong path.

20:18 <phutchins> jhass: thanks a ton for the help! And anyone else that chimed in :)

20:18 <phutchins> this was an interesting one...

20:18 <baweaver> Pretty sure we're the only team at Sony using Ruby though

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20:19 <arup_r> baweaver: Sony means?

20:19 <baweaver> company

20:19 <arup_r> those who build TV ?

20:19 <baweaver> among other things, yes

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20:20 <arup_r> wow

20:20 <benlieb> postmodern: I did, and no dice

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20:20 <arup_r> they do use Ruby.. cool

20:20 <jhass> didn't they build those singing robots? "popstars" or something was the brand name I think

20:20 <baweaver> though I'm at SNEI on the PS4 team. Most teams seem to use Python or JS

20:20 <baweaver> Vocaloids, not sure.

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20:20 <benlieb> postmodern: I can also see that /usr/local/share/chruby is not executable

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20:21 <postmodern> benlieb, that might be an issue

20:21 <benlieb> I'd like to recommend the tool to my whole team

20:21 <baweaver> I could put a shameless plug on a posting we have :D

20:21 <benlieb> but the install isn't really working

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20:21 <postmodern> benlieb, make sure the dir is +rx and the files within it are +r

20:21 <benlieb> postmodern: where would I start debugging? The install process seemed to say all succeeded

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20:21 <postmodern> benlieb, sounds like the permissions of /usr/local/share are too strict

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20:22 <postmodern> benlieb, ls -l /usr/local/share/chruby

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20:22 <arup_r> baweaver: I'll apply for job then there..

20:22 <benlieb> postmodern: drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4.0K Mar 12 11:03 share

20:23 <baweaver> they're all normally posted on LinkedIn.

20:23 <EllisTAA> I wrote this code but when i look at it i think "this looks noobish, you need to refactor it". can anyone give me tips on how to approach this with the goal of refactoring it? https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/269e58273bcfca355686

20:23 <baweaver> I know my team was looking for a senior Rails/Angular type for a lead spot.

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20:23 <benlieb> postmodern: https://gist.github.com/pixelterra/7252eb01be78514b49f8

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20:24 <jhass> EllisTAA: what's up with the weird indentation of end?

20:24 <EllisTAA> jhass: ahhh yeah i’m bad with indentation

20:24 <benlieb> postmodern: when you say make sure "the dir" is ... what dir is that?

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20:25 <arup_r> all the place looking for senior only.. no value for juniors... :)

20:25 <jhass> EllisTAA: Range#step should come in handy for generating sum

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20:25 <baweaver> That was the position: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/35941688

20:25 <baweaver> I'm in the fun area right below Senior level myself.

20:25 <EllisTAA> jhass thanks

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20:26 <jhass> EllisTAA: to compute a sum just use .inject(:+)

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20:26 <jhass> >> [1, 2, 3].inject(:+)

20:26 <eval-in_> jhass => 6 (https://eval.in/299566)

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20:26 <benlieb> postmodern: any advice?

20:26 <postmodern> benlieb, the dir being /usr/local/share/chruby, the one you said wasn't executable

20:27 <benlieb> postmodern: I said the files inside weren't executable. I'm not sure if they should be...

20:27 <EllisTAA> jhass: thanks

20:27 <postmodern> benlieb, oh my mistake

20:27 <benlieb> where should the chruby command live? It isn't being found...

20:27 <jhass> > [*(0...20).step(3), *(0...20).step(5)].uniq.inject(:+) # EllisTAA, I guess? didn't think it fully through yet

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20:27 <EllisTAA> in case you were interested i included the prompt: https://gist.github.com/ellismarte/269e58273bcfca355686

20:27 <jhass> >> [*(0...20).step(3), *(0...20).step(5)].uniq.inject(:+)

20:27 <eval-in_> jhass => 78 (https://eval.in/299569)

20:28 <EllisTAA> jhass: that looks pretty

20:28 <postmodern> benlieb, chruby is a function that lives in chruby.sh, so you must source chruby.sh in your shell's configuration. Can you `source /usr/local/share/chruby/chruby.sh` from the command-line?

20:28 <wallerdev> reduce makes so much more sense than inject

20:28 <EllisTAA> jhass: why are they in square brackets?

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20:28 <EllisTAA> and what’s up with the astrik?

20:28 <baweaver> foldL for life :D

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20:28 <baweaver> splat operator

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20:29 <baweaver> >> [[1,2,3]]

20:29 <eval-in_> baweaver => [[1, 2, 3]] (https://eval.in/299571)

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20:29 <baweaver> >> [*[1,2,3]]

20:29 <eval-in_> baweaver => [1, 2, 3] (https://eval.in/299572)

20:29 <benlieb> postmodern: I was able to do that

20:29 <arup_r> +1

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20:29 <benlieb> no output from the source command or the subsequent chruby command.

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20:29 <benlieb> I do have one ruby installed howeer

20:29 <benlieb> however

20:30 <baweaver> EllisTAA: jhass: So aren't you just getting numbers < 20 divisible by 3 or 5?

20:30 <jhass> >> [*1..5] # EllisTAA

20:30 <eval-in_> jhass => [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] (https://eval.in/299573)

20:30 <jhass> baweaver: mmh, yeah

20:30 <postmodern> benlieb, `type -t chruby` to ensure it was loaded

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20:30 <baweaver> >> (1..20).select { |n| n % 3 == 0 || n % 5 == 0 }.reduce(:+)

20:30 <eval-in_> baweaver => 98 (https://eval.in/299574)

20:30 <postmodern> benlieb, next follow the configuration instructions: https://github.com/postmodern/chruby#configuration

20:31 <benlieb> type -t ... is empty

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20:31 <jhass> baweaver: < 20 though, not <= 20

20:31 <baweaver> >> [*(0...20).step(3), *(0...20).step(5)].uniq

20:31 <eval-in_> baweaver => [0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 5, 10] (https://eval.in/299575)

20:31 <postmodern> benlieb, what shell are you using?

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20:31 <jhass> but was writing up the same

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20:31 <baweaver> >> (1...20).select { |n| n % 3 == 0 || n % 5 == 0 }.reduce(:+)

20:31 <eval-in_> baweaver => 78 (https://eval.in/299576)

20:31 <baweaver> ah

20:31 <EllisTAA> baweaver: what’s up with .reduce(:+), what does that do

20:31 <baweaver> missed that

20:31 <baweaver> same as inject

20:31 <baweaver> alias

20:31 <jhass> yes

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20:31 <_blizzy_> could anyone explain what this line is doing? [1,3].reduce(:^)

20:32 <baweaver> >> (1..5).inject(:+) == (1..5).reduce(:+)

20:32 <eval-in_> baweaver => true (https://eval.in/299577)

20:32 <benlieb> echo $SHELL > /bin/bash

20:32 <_blizzy_> seems like I'm not the only one learning reduce.

20:32 <EllisTAA> jhass: baweaver: thanks for the lessons

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20:32 <baweaver> reducing with the ``^`` operator

20:32 <jhass> _blizzy_: do you know what 1 ^ 3 does?

20:32 <_blizzy_> yeah, 1^3 = 1

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20:32 <baweaver> it's not exponentiation in ruby

20:33 <baweaver> it was bitwise

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20:33 <_blizzy_> oh.

20:33 <benlieb> ooops, ok it's a function

20:33 <jhass> >> 1 ^ 3

20:33 <eval-in_> jhass => 2 (https://eval.in/299578)

20:33 <benlieb> I was in the wrong tab.

20:33 <wallerdev> ** is the exponent operator in ruby

20:33 <benlieb> too many tabs open trying to troubleshoot...

20:33 <baweaver> binary xor

20:33 <baweaver> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ruby/ruby_operators.htm

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20:33 <jhass> _blizzy_: so one thing to learn is what Fixnum#^ does, the other thing is Array#reduce (aka #inject)

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20:34 <baweaver> if you passed :** it'd work

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20:34 <_blizzy_> jhass, I know how reduce works.

20:34 <_blizzy_> like

20:34 <_blizzy_> >> [1,2,3,4].inject(:+)

20:34 <eval-in_> _blizzy_ => 10 (https://eval.in/299579)

20:34 <atmosx> Any idea what's wrong with these views (sinatra). For some reason I get an empty params hash

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20:34 <baweaver> https://gist.github.com/baweaver/c4ee517fe325d54447c5 - That might be handy to explain how map, reduce, and filter/select work with functions

20:35 <jhass> > [1.to_s(2), 3.to_s(2), (1 ^ 3).to_s(2)] # _blizzy_

20:35 <jhass> bah

20:35 <jhass> >> [1.to_s(2), 3.to_s(2), (1 ^ 3).to_s(2)] # _blizzy_

20:35 <eval-in_> jhass => ["1", "11", "10"] (https://eval.in/299580)

20:35 <baweaver> of course tail recursion in ruby isn't the best idea

20:35 <jhass> baweaver: but available as a compile time flag :P

20:35 <_blizzy_> oh, ok, it's binary. thanks, jhass.

20:35 <baweaver> still feels dirty...

20:35 <_blizzy_> thanks, baweaver.

20:35 <baweaver> no problem mate.

20:36 <baweaver> Kinda wish they'd just put in TCO already

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20:36 <elfuego> havenwood: I use this to make the post http://www.codeshare.io/zC6WF, but I don’t have access to objects returned by post, I just see #<Net::HTTPOK 200 OK readbody=true> when I inspect

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20:36 <_blizzy_> so why does this return 1

20:36 <_blizzy_> >> [1,2,2].reduce(:**)

20:36 <eval-in_> _blizzy_ => 1 (https://eval.in/299581)

20:37 <baweaver> >> 1 ** 2

20:37 <eval-in_> baweaver => 1 (https://eval.in/299582)

20:37 <baweaver> >> 1 ** 3

20:37 <eval-in_> baweaver => 1 (https://eval.in/299583)

20:37 <_blizzy_> god I feel slow

20:37 <baweaver> happens.

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20:37 <_blizzy_> thanks, baweaver.

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20:38 <_blizzy_> I have 0 history of computer science. my high school doesn't offer AP Comp Sci. c:

20:38 <baweaver> that's mostly algebra for that though

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20:38 <_blizzy_> yeah.

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20:39 <baweaver> functional programming, that's pretty well just lambda calculus

20:39 <zenspider> any zsh+ruby folk? Can you take a look at this? https://github.com/seattlerb/minitest-sprint/issues/1

20:39 <baweaver> Just jump through SICP or Learn You a Haskell

20:39 <_blizzy_> I learned fold through haskell.

20:39 <zenspider> I prefer to push ppl at little schemer before SICP

20:39 <zenspider> it's a good compare & contrast

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20:40 <baweaver> fair enough

20:40 <baweaver> that and not as dense in general

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20:40 <baweaver> zenspider: I use both, see if I can note anything.

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20:42 <zenspider> I actually like the little schemer better from a pedagogy standpoint. that and I think the metacircular interpreter in ch 10 is cleaner than SICP's... but it was written 5-8 years later iirc.

20:42 <zenspider> don't get me wrong _blizzy_... they're BOTH classics and BOTH worth going through

20:43 <_blizzy_> zenspider, ok.

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20:45 <maZtah> hi! can anyone help me? how would i use this gem standalone? (so without rails fe) https://github.com/parasquid/namecheap

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20:46 <wallerdev> maZtah: https://github.com/parasquid/namecheap/tree/master/spec/namecheap

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20:48 <baweaver> zenspider: I'll play with it a bit more tonight when I have more than just a mac to test on.

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20:49 <maZtah> thx wallerdev. i think i'm getting it now :)

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20:52 <zenspider> baweaver: thanks!

20:52 <baweaver> I don't have that in either ENV out of 2 shells over here :/

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20:53 <baweaver> could always just cheat and: (ENV['COMP_LINE'] || 'default')

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20:54 <zenspider> I would guess COMP_LINE is only extant when you're tabbing out on something, but I honestly have no idea.

20:54 <zenspider> aaron wrote this and dropped it in my lap :)

20:54 <baweaver> Sounds par for course

20:55 <baweaver> I can always tell when a SeattleRB type writes something

20:55 <baweaver> def method args

20:55 <baweaver> vs

20:55 <baweaver> def method(args)

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20:57 <Senjai> I love all of you

20:57 <Senjai> That is all

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20:57 <wallerdev> ily2

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20:58 <baweaver> zenspider: http://blogs.perl.org/users/perlancar/2014/11/comparing-programmable-tab-completion-in-bash-zsh-tcsh-and-fish.html

20:58 <baweaver> that looks handy

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20:58 <baweaver> posting on issue for reference.

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20:58 <zenspider> awesome. thanks

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20:59 <zenspider> wtf is _% in zsh?

20:59 <zenspider> oh... or is that a typo?

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20:59 <baweaver> Probably perl repl

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20:59 <baweaver> or header for their shell

21:00 <zenspider> I think it is a typo now that I've read it a couple times

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21:00 <baweaver> at very least it gives a direction

21:00 <zenspider> actually, this write up is rather buggy

21:00 <zenspider> I think his html renderer and/or CSS is getting in the way

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21:01 <zenspider> yeah. inspect found the rest

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21:01 <baweaver> wouldn't be the first time HTML eats code.

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21:02 <baweaver> well, in this case css with no overflow

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21:03 <zenspider> I added a comment with the equivalent parts so porting is easier

21:03 <baweaver> adding an ``overflow: scroll`` to the ``pre`` tag fixes that sites issue;.

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21:04 <baweaver> if it weren't such a blasted pain to register to comment I'd tell the guy

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21:04 <baweaver> but I don't feel like going through a few forms to do that.

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21:05 <hoelzro> baweaver: I have an account, I'll post it on your behalf

21:05 <baweaver> Ah, that'll work

21:05 <baweaver> thanks mate.

21:05 <hoelzro> just gist me what you want to say, and how you'd like to be credited

21:05 <hoelzro> np, thanks for finding the fix =)

21:05 <baweaver> Doesn't matter, just say his code is cropping from overflow

21:06 <baweaver> not too worried about credit, have at it.

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21:06 <zenspider> hoelzro: throw in a 's/_% /% _/' comment for me please

21:06 <hoelzro> zenspider: sure thing

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21:07 <baweaver> Disqus has spoiled me something fierce ;)

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21:09 <hoelzro> there, done

21:09 <baweaver> thanks mate.

21:09 <hoelzro> sure thing

21:09 <hoelzro> happy to help!

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21:10 <postmodern> benlieb, got it working?

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21:12 <Thaxll> Hi, I'm trying to do something and I'm not sure if it

21:12 <Thaxll> it's possible*

21:12 <Thaxll> Is there an easy way to split a utf-8 string by bytes into an array but making sure that we don't cut in the middle of a character?

21:13 <jhass> that doesn't make sense

21:13 <Thaxll> Why that?

21:13 <jhass> what do you expect the output to be for a multi byte char?

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21:14 <shevy> jhass can not solve a utf-8 problem!

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21:14 <Thaxll> well that's my problem, I want to cut before if we do cut in a mutli byte char

21:14 <baweaver> :O

21:14 <shevy> what is the middle of a character anyway

21:14 <jhass> Thaxll: so you don't want bytes, you want codepoints?

21:14 <shevy> will a 'n' become two 'i'? ii

21:14 <jhass> >> "aüb".codepoints

21:14 <jhass> right

21:14 <zenspider> Thaxll: you mean by character, not by byte?

21:14 <Thaxll> shevy: if i use unpack() it will unpack in the middle of the "bytes"

21:14 <shevy> the bot won't accept utf!

21:14 <jhass> try that

21:15 <baweaver> my_string.chars.map whateverunpackhere

21:15 <jhass> .codepoints

21:15 <jhass> simple as that

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21:15 <Thaxll> juste some background here, I'm receiving some messages that i have to output somewhere, that somewhere doesn't accept message bigger than 32K so I have to split large messagrinto small ones

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21:16 <Thaxll> jhass: I'm going to look at that tank you

21:16 <jhass> "മലയാണ്മ".codepoints

21:16 <jhass> try it

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21:17 <Thaxll> ( I'm running my code into jruby ) ;o

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21:20 <jhass> .chars.map(&:bytes) if you want something you can count bytes of

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21:20 <bradland> you can just do .bytes.size if you want to know the size

21:21 <jhass> there's .bytesize isn't there?

21:21 <bradland> Thaxll: I'd use String#byteslize

21:21 <jhass> >> "foo".bytesize

21:21 <eval-in_> jhass => 3 (https://eval.in/299589)

21:21 <bradland> to cut your string up in to 32K chunks

21:21 <bradland> good point jhass

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21:21 <bradland> lol byteslize

21:21 <bradland> sry dude

21:22 <bradland> String#byteslice is what you want: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.1/String.html#method-i-byteslice

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21:22 <jhass> well, maybe he has a reason to not slice into the middle of a character?

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21:22 <Thaxll> yes

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21:22 <jhass> like no control over the assembling process?

21:23 <bradland> in his problem description, he says he needs to limit messages to 32K

21:23 <bradland> i wouldn't split multi-byte chars, personally

21:23 <Thaxll> I have to slice because the output is limited by the size of the message ( 32k ) and if I slice in the middle it won't encode to json

21:23 <bradland> that way each message is atomic

21:23 <Thaxll> because json is utf-8 only so my cut in the middle will break the utf-8 char and won't encode and then won;t flush

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21:24 <jhass> bradland: I guess you missed the initial one

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21:24 <bradland> yeah, as usual, i'm doing a drive by :)

21:24 <Thaxll> ( it's a logstash pluging btw )

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21:25 <jhass> Thaxll: so with .chars.map(&:bytes) you can simply build up a new message, counting how many bytes you added and aborting if current_bytes.size + char.size > limit

21:26 <jhass> serialize the char again with .pack("C")

21:26 <_blizzy_> so, is there a difference between [1,2].reduce(&:^) and [1,2].reduce(:^)

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21:26 <jhass> _blizzy_: the former is slightly slower since it creates an extra proc object

21:26 <_blizzy_> jhass, oh ok. thanks.

21:26 <jhass> while the later form uses send directly I believe

21:27 <_blizzy_> that makes sense. thxs.

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21:27 <bradland> heh, so byteslice will bisect a multi-byte character :\

21:27 <bradland> i guess that makes sense

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21:28 <jhass> Thaxll: or actually I guess no need for the map(&:bytes), just count along with .bytesize

21:28 <Thaxll> jhass: I think that's what I did first but it was slow compare to unpack, gonna try again!

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21:40 <Senjai> _blizzy_: Generally if a method accepts a symbol instead of a block, just always send it the symbol

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21:40 <Senjai> It may just call to_proc on it anyway, but it might do something different or more optimized

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21:40 <Senjai> a symbol is more versitile than a block

21:40 <Senjai> s/block/proc

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21:42 <jhass> Thaxll: super ugly but I think it works :P taken = 0; chunks = (s * 123).chars.slice_before {|c| taken += c.bytesize; (taken > 20).tap {|overflow| taken = c.bytesize if overflow } }.map(&:join)

21:42 <Thaxll> wtf

21:42 <Thaxll> I thought my unpack one liner was horrible: longMessage = event[@source_field].unpack("a#{@length}"*((size/@length)+((size%@length>0)?1:0)))

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21:43 <Thaxll> jhass: what does your thing does i have some problem following the code lol it's my second day of ruby

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21:44 <jhass> it splits the input into individual characters (.chars)

21:44 <jhass> then it iterates over them counting the bytes

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21:44 <jhass> if taking that character would overflow, return false so slice_before starts a new chunk

21:44 <jhass> and reset the counter

21:45 <jhass> so 20 is the limit

21:45 <jhass> (s * 123) is just the input

21:45 <Thaxll> in bytes right?

21:45 <jhass> right

21:45 <Thaxll> ok let me try that

21:46 <jhass> using 3 byte chars as input I get 6 chars per chunk, so 18 bytes

21:46 <jhass> + 3 == 21 that would overflow so it starts a new one

21:47 <jhass> might be more efficient with replacing .chars. by .each_char. actually

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21:47 <Thaxll> jhass: damned it seems to work

21:47 <Thaxll> :D

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21:51 <Thaxll> jhass: http://pastebin.com/eR9rJXve

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21:52 <jhass> Thaxll: exactly 20 bytes each ;)

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21:53 <jhass> and 13 for the last one

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21:53 <jhass> you can check with .map(&:bytesize)

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21:54 <jhass> so [20, 18, 20, 19, 20, 18, 20, 19, 20, 20, 18, 20, 19, 13] actually

21:54 <jhass> so that's optimized for exhausting message length

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21:55 <jhass> if the chunking needs to be really fast I'd imagine assuming each char is 4 bytes should yield something I guess

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21:55 <jhass> but that sends 4 times as many messages in the worst case

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21:56 <jhass> so I'd rather spend some time chunking them properly

21:56 <jhass> cpu time that is ;)

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21:59 <Thaxll> jhass: alright, it's dozen of thousands messages/sec so i'll benchmark that then optimize! thank you very much :)

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22:00 <jhass> as said .each_char should be a bit faster already in that solution

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22:01 <jhass> another possible optimization is to tack .each on the end instead of map and do the sending right away and the join inside

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22:01 <jhass> both of these save allocation temporary arrays

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22:22 <bradland> this is pretty interesting

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22:23 <bradland> unicode is designed such that the first two bits of a byte will tell you whether it is A) the first byte of a multibyte sequence, or B) part of a multi-byte sequence

22:23 <bradland> so if you find that you need more optimization, Thaxll, you could use unpack and friends, so long as you range-check the bytes to make sure they're not part of a multi-byte character

22:23 <bradland> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9356169/utf-8-continuation-bytes

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22:24 <jhass> I'm not sure we can get lowlevel enough in ruby to be faster that way

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22:24 <bradland> yeah, that may be a problem

22:24 <jhass> you still have to count them and check if adding the current char breaks the limit

22:25 <bradland> you'd have to unpack, do the range-check at your boundary, then pack

22:25 <jhass> removing them form the current chunk if you hit the limit and are in a multi-byte sequence should be slower anyway

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22:26 <bradland> yeah, there's no way to avoid a conditional there, which is going to slow things down

22:26 <jhass> it makes sense if you can do pointer arithmetic I guess

22:26 <Thaxll> you can cheat a bit

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22:26 <bradland> or bitmask it

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22:26 <jhass> and then two pass, find the borders, allocate rightly sized buffers and copy over

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22:31 <Thaxll> jruby seems fast enough from the first benchmark

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22:32 <bradland> Thaxll: since you're dealing with throughput, checkout benchmark-ips, if you haven't already

22:33 <Thaxll> bradland: excellent ty, I was using a python like benchmark with timer + iteration

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22:37 <Lingo> Hello, iI am trying to send a post request with the following code

22:37 <Lingo> http://pastebin.com/kAvKSQtk

22:37 <helpa> Hi Lingo. We in #ruby would really appreciate it if you did not use pastebin during your time with us.

22:37 <helpa> Pastebin is not good because it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use Gist (http://gist.github.com) or Pastie (http://pastie.org) instead. Thanks!

22:38 <Lingo> it is reaching the server like so: body:{"{\"key\":\"XXXXXXX\",\"message\":\"Hello dan your prescription is ready for pickup!\",\"to\":\"YYYYYYY\"}":""}

22:38 <Lingo> why is that?

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22:42 <shevy> Lingo that looks as if something tries to turn this into a complete string

22:43 <shevy> >> hash = { cat: 'Tom', mouse: 'Jerry' }; hash.to_s

22:43 <eval-in_> shevy => "{:cat=>\"Tom\", :mouse=>\"Jerry\"}" (https://eval.in/299609)

22:43 <shevy> so I assume, something calls a .to_s somewhere there; or you have some json data, that also gets .to_s transformed

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22:46 <Diabolik> Why would I use blocks instead of creating functions or methods?

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22:47 <Senjai> Diabolik: When you dont need to give a name to a method, or if you want to execute some code outside of your method at a specifc point.

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22:49 <Senjai> Diabolik: https://gist.github.com/Senjai/3cc5f11e8e4cf4e8c7ec

22:50 <Senjai> commented with the output

22:50 <agrinb> So I'm given a string of mixed numbers and words, I need to return the string sorted, but the numbers and strings must stay in their respective indices. I just built an array and as I iterated through my array(composed of string elements originally) I would append a 'num

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22:50 <agrinb> ' or 'str' to the tracking array

22:50 <Senjai> agrinb: Why do the numbers have to stay at their indicies?

22:50 <agrinb> i will explain

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22:51 <agrinb> then I iterated over the array of 'num'/'str' and for every 'num' I would shift from the sorted numbers array, same for strings and append to my final array

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22:51 <agrinb> now I have analyze my algo vs others I could have used

22:52 <agrinb> but I can't really think of anything else

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22:54 <Diabolik> but Senjai

22:54 <Diabolik> you're still naming the block

22:54 <Diabolik> do_stuff

22:54 <agrinb> Senjai: the term of the problem is that you return a string with where numbers and strings are in the same order so '4 2 apple 6 berry' is returned as '2 4 apple 6 berry'

22:54 <Senjai> Diabolik: No, the block is anonymouse

22:54 <Senjai> anonymous

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22:55 <Senjai> I can call the same thing with, do_stuff(a, ->{|number| puts number + 1})

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22:55 <Senjai> Thats not syntactically correct

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22:55 <Senjai> but it should make my point

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22:55 <Senjai> agrinb: !code

22:55 <helpa> agrinb: We cannot help you with your problem if you don't show us your code. Please put it on http://gist.github.com and give us the URL so we can see it.

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22:57 <agrinb> https://gist.github.com/agrinb/d8601eae4d7ffbed8458

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22:57 <agrinb> note I wrote it in python

22:57 <agrinb> this is the old ruby version

22:58 <agrinb> and I see an error

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22:58 <Senjai> el.to_i.to_s != el

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22:58 <Senjai> what

22:59 <Senjai> This is way over complicated

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22:59 <Senjai> array_map(['5', '4', 'dog', '1', 'cat']) << Given this, what output do you expect?

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23:00 <agrinb> ["1", "4", "cat", "5", "dog"]

23:00 <Senjai> And why does this have to be sorted like this again? Homework?

23:00 <agrinb> Code screen

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23:00 <agrinb> but I did the code screen

23:00 <Senjai> Code screen?

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23:01 <agrinb> for getting a job

23:01 <agrinb> I obviously have the algo

23:01 <Senjai> Let me poke at it

23:01 <agrinb> my question is, are there other ways to do this

23:01 <agrinb> worse, better

23:01 <Senjai> sec

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23:03 <agrinb> actually in my python script I don't do this nonsense el.to_i.to_s != el

23:03 <agrinb> I just used a try block

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23:03 <Senjai> agrinb: It'll take me a minute to do this

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23:03 <agrinb> only if you want to do it

23:03 <Senjai> sure

23:03 <agrinb> I'm just curious about the approach

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23:04 <zenspider> this problem seems ill-defined

23:04 <zenspider> what happens with numbers of different lengths?

23:04 <Senjai> zenspider: They just keep their place

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23:05 <zenspider> not if they sort differently

23:05 <zenspider> given "123 12", obviously the indicies are going to change

23:06 <Senjai> Oh sorry

23:06 <Senjai> what

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23:06 <Senjai> Okay

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23:06 <agrinb> '123 12' would turn into '12 123'

23:06 <Senjai> why

23:06 <zenspider> and the indicies would be different

23:06 <Senjai> [123, 12] ?

23:07 <Senjai> or ['123 12']

23:07 <Senjai> because the latter is a string

23:07 <Senjai> not an integer

23:07 <zenspider> please go read the description again

23:07 <agrinb> you should interpret numbers as integers '1' = 1

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23:08 <zenspider> "given a string of mixed numbers and words, I need to return the string sorted, but the numbers and strings must stay in their respective indices"

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23:10 <agrinb> a = ['5', '4', 'dog', '1', 'cat'] should return ["1", "4", "cat", "5", "dog"] a[0] is a integer, a[1] is an integer, a[2] is a string, a[3] integer, a[4] string

23:11 <agrinb> and I'm sorry for confusing you with using numbers and integers interchangably

23:11 <apeiros_> partition, sort, merge

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23:11 <apeiros_> also given that you treat strings as numbers, you should probably define numbers precisely.

23:11 <agrinb> the bottom line is that '1' and 1 should be treated the same, but '1' and 'one' should not be treated the same

23:12 <agrinb> aperios_: what do you mean by partition?

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23:13 <apeiros_> agrinb: nice touch with the trailing _, but really, use tab completion for nicks. avoids typos.

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23:13 <apeiros_> I mean Enumerable#partition

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23:13 <Senjai> agrinb: Assuming I didnt know about apeiros_'s utility methods: https://gist.github.com/Senjai/fd4fb74129dd570f17b6

23:13 <Senjai> would be my shot at it

23:13 <Senjai> if I was under the gun at an interview

23:13 <Senjai> with no internet connection

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23:14 <apeiros_> note that "merge" in my list is not an actual method. that part you have to implement yourself.

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23:14 <Senjai> I havent used partition before though

23:14 <agrinb> apeiros_: whoa, just blew my mind on this tab thing

23:14 <agrinb> I'm a newbie obviously

23:15 <Senjai> It is by no means

23:15 <Senjai> an efficient solution

23:15 <Senjai> or the best way of doing it

23:15 <Senjai> But I think it handles that use case

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23:16 <agrinb> Senjai: looking at it now

23:16 <agrinb> thanks

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23:17 <Senjai> ^_^, interesting but useless problem IMO

23:17 <Senjai> xD

23:17 <apeiros_> ints,strs = a.each_with_index.partition { |e,i| e =~ /\A\d+\z/ }; int_vals,int_idx = *ints.transpose; …

23:17 <Senjai> apeiros_: I was waiting for you to do your apeiros_ thing

23:17 <apeiros_> ^ basic building blocks of my solution

23:18 <Senjai> apeiros_: Woudlnt that treat "1sdfsafa" as an int?

23:18 <apeiros_> no

23:18 <Senjai> nvm

23:18 <Senjai> I was silly

23:18 <Senjai> \z

23:18 <apeiros_> but that's what I meant when I said "00:11 apeiros_: also given that you treat strings as numbers, you should probably define numbers precisely."

23:18 <Senjai> Transpose is interesting

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23:19 <apeiros_> there's tons of different possible valid definitions for number

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23:19 <Senjai> Aye

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23:20 <Senjai> In my solution, I just determined it if Integer could convert it

23:20 <Senjai> without an issue

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23:20 <Senjai> I would eventually do something like your solution

23:20 <Senjai> and research the issue

23:20 <apeiros_> that's a viable approach

23:20 <Senjai> but I wouldnt come up with that offhand

23:21 <apeiros_> creating an array from indices and values… hm… I have a way, but not sure I like it.

23:21 <Senjai> reserved_indicies does not even need to be a hash

23:21 <Senjai> xD

23:21 <Senjai> could just be an array

23:21 <apeiros_> anyway, I estimate my solution to be ~10 LoC

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23:21 <Senjai> apeiros_: Want to take a shot at it?

23:21 <Senjai> I'd like to look at yours

23:21 <Senjai> save me from researching shorter ways of doing it

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23:22 <apeiros_> 9 lines

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23:22 <apeiros_> without def/end

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23:23 <Senjai> sexyshowmehplox

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23:24 <apeiros_> https://gist.github.com/apeiros/e9ba1ec3fc1bfe6aa3e3 there, plerpsort

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23:25 <jhass> lol

23:25 <Senjai> apeiros_: I think you win

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23:26 <apeiros_> sweeet sweeet victory! :D

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23:27 <Senjai> apeiros_: I've challenged my coworkers

23:27 <apeiros_> jhass lols… he knows something I don't :-S

23:27 <Senjai> to beat 9 lines

23:27 <Senjai> will keep ya in the know

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23:27 <Senjai> xD

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23:27 <apeiros_> Senjai: you can chain a couple of those things

23:28 <jhass> I have to admit, I don't follow what the splats do there

23:28 <jasabella> w

23:28 <Senjai> jhass: Just binding.pry it, and step through the execution xD

23:29 <apeiros_> jhass: you can leave them away. ruby autosplats. I like to be explicit.

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23:29 <banister> apeiros_ sleep

23:29 <jhass> mh

23:29 <jhass> k

23:29 <Senjai> agrinb: You've turned this into a decent ruby golf game xD

23:29 <apeiros_> actually omitted the one in the first line

23:29 <apeiros_> banister: I should, yes

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23:29 <jhass> and tbh I can't stand, a,b it has to be a, b! :P

23:30 <apeiros_> jhass: ah yes. that's because I copied pry code

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23:31 <baweaver> what golf where?

23:31 <agrinb> apeiros_: winner!

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23:31 <apeiros_> agrinb: I think you're the winner. got your code for free :-p

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23:31 <Senjai> baweaver: Ruby Golf, a game where you have a small problem. Person to solve it in least number of lines or characters win

23:32 <Senjai> excluding whitespace

23:32 <agrinb> So I got this code challenge 2 weeks ago in ruby

23:32 <baweaver> well yeah

23:32 <agrinb> and today I get in python

23:32 <baweaver> just curious where the game was

23:32 <baweaver> scrollback is pesky

23:33 <agrinb> big smile on my face

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23:34 <Senjai> apeiros_: Curve ball, account for negative integers xD

23:34 <Senjai> not really a curve ball

23:34 <agrinb> apeiros_: Thing is they asked me to analyze this vs other algorithms I could have used. It's not like I had 4 different options. I knew one.

23:34 <Senjai> just a modification of regex

23:34 <Senjai> but still

23:35 <apeiros_> Senjai: until agrinb specifies his numbers…

23:35 <apeiros_> which I said the third time now :-p

23:35 <Senjai> We're twisting the rules at work xD

23:35 <Senjai> Any whole integer in a string with no whitespace

23:35 <apeiros_> Senjai: you see, Integer() otoh allows things like 0b10, and treats 00123 as octal

23:35 <Senjai> is considered an integer

23:35 <agrinb> Integer range:-999999 to 999999

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23:36 <Senjai> "-100" < Integer, "100" < Integer, "100.5" << String

23:36 <baweaver> I wanna play! Give me a bit.

23:36 <GaryOak_> 0

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23:36 <klmlfl> can someone explained Ruby's 'defined?" method to a newbie (eli5)

23:36 <Senjai> "01" < Integer

23:37 <apeiros_> klmlfl: defined? is not a method

23:37 <klmlfl> operator

23:37 <apeiros_> it tells you whether an expression is defined or not. and if it is defined, it even gives you more detailed information about what it is

23:38 <apeiros_> klmlfl: please don't cross post. and if you do, tell in all channels where you ask, that you're cross posting.

23:39 <klmlfl> Please read that I DID do that!

23:39 <apeiros_> I don't see you telling here that you're cross posting.

23:39 <Senjai> def custom_sort(l);z=->a{Integer(a)rescue nil};y=l.map(&z);x,w=l.partition(&z).map(&:sort);y.map{|b|(b ? x : w).shift}end

23:39 <Senjai> apeiros_: ^

23:39 <Senjai> From jhawthorn @ work

23:40 <klmlfl> whatever man

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23:40 klmlfl was kicked from #ruby by apeiros_ [I'm serious]

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23:42 <jhass> apeiros_: fun part, they asked in #RubyOnRails too

23:43 <apeiros_> fun

23:43 <jhass> Radar: see ^

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23:44 <Radar> thanks

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23:44 <baweaver> https://gist.github.com/baweaver/ab300db3a27f9d83781b - yeah, Senjai has it on this one

23:44 <baweaver> I just refactored the other one a bit.

23:44 <apeiros_> I find it irritating that they cross post after getting an answer.

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23:45 <Radar> apeiros_: maybe they didn't see the answer?

23:46 <a1fa> what's a good tutorial site to start with ruby?

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23:46 <baweaver> http://bit.ly/XsMwtr

23:47 <shadoi1> a1fa: tryruby.org

23:47 <Radar> baweaver: subtle.

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23:47 <baweaver> I try.

23:47 <a1fa> shadoi1: using that one at the moment. what editor would you recommend ?

23:48 <baweaver> link shortner helps a lot.

23:48 <baweaver> for basics: sublime text

23:48 <a1fa> does it auto complete methods?

23:48 <baweaver> for potential power editors later, Vim or Emacs

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23:48 <baweaver> don't

23:48 <baweaver> that's a good way not to learn the language.

23:49 <a1fa> good point

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23:49 <baweaver> I tend to prefer vim myself, but if you don't know what it is I'd avoid it for a while

23:49 <baweaver> focus on learning one foreign concept at a time

23:49 <Senjai> codecademy.com is fine

23:49 <Radar> And Ruby is hard to autocomplete properly because it a dynamic language.

23:49 <baweaver> instead of taking the firehose

23:49 <Senjai> for 100% new to programming

23:49 <Radar> a1fa: http://www.rubytapas.com/

23:50 <bradland> i've run through most of codeacademy.com

23:50 <Senjai> also ruby koans

23:50 <bradland> it's not horrible

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23:50 <baweaver> Careful not to hit the idea that you need to learn everything at once.

23:50 <baweaver> Nightmare, that.

23:50 <bradland> a1fa: is this your first programming language?

23:50 <triangles> Why are static languages easier to autocomplete?

23:50 <a1fa> i've done mostly php, bash.. etc

23:50 <baweaver> http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/topic/339753-bestwhich-books/page__view__findpost__p__1968668 - booklist

23:51 <baweaver> lemur == baweaver

23:51 <baweaver> You can't define things on the fly like you can in Ruby.

23:51 <baweaver> doesn't stop pry and rubymine from trying

23:52 <shadoi1> triangles: because being able to map types directly removes uncertainty in the autocompleter logic

23:52 <baweaver> apeiros_: that bad?

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23:52 <apeiros_> typical case of "lets continue elsewhere and be an idiot about it"

23:52 <baweaver> ah

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23:52 <apeiros_> and I've no patience with that kind of shit anymore.

23:52 <bradland> a1fa: i'd give codeacademy.com a try if you've already done some programming

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23:53 <Radar> apeiros_: Welcome to the "old and bitter" club.

23:53 <a1fa> thanks for the tips guys

23:53 <baweaver> If you're really up on programming: learnxinyminutes

23:53 <Radar> apeiros_: You are now eligible to join the Seattle.rb club.

23:53 <Senjai> Radar: Psht, you aint bitter

23:53 <Senjai> hahahaha

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23:53 <apeiros_> Radar: hurray. what's the benefits?

23:53 <apeiros_> can I shoo people from my lawn?

23:53 <baweaver> ...beat me to it

23:54 <Senjai> apeiros_: Salty tea, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suutei_tsai

23:54 <Radar> apeiros_: Ban people from the channel when they even slightly piss you off

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23:54 <Radar> That's a good start

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23:54 <Radar> apeiros_: If you can condescend to everyone you talk to as well you'll be doing pretty well

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23:54 <Radar> "UGH, you don't know Ruby?! Why should I even *bother* to speak to you?"

23:54 <baweaver> Easy there, any more and you'll be a Rails Core committer :P

23:55 <Senjai> baweaver: Dont even bring up Rails admin

23:55 <Senjai> or anything similar

23:55 <Radar> !activeadmin

23:55 <helpa> brb, shooting myself

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23:55 <jsrn> Radar: Funny, that's what I just wrote in my mother's day card

23:55 <apeiros_> lol

23:55 <apeiros_> never tried activeadmin. that bad?

23:55 <Radar> paints you into a corner

23:56 <Radar> and then plants land mines around you

23:56 <baweaver> skirted around it once, then made my own

23:56 <Radar> snipers on the rooftops

23:56 <Radar> that sort of thing

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23:56 <bradland> i inhereted an activeadmin project one time

23:56 <baweaver> timebombs on databases

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23:56 <baweaver> No, I expect you to 'DROP TABLE' Mr Bond

23:57 <bradland> the problem with admin frameworks is that once you hvae a framework sufficiently flexible to accomodate "most" use cases...

23:57 <Senjai> The problem with admin frameworks is that they exist

23:57 <bradland> you begin to bump up against the complexity of simply using Rails + whatever your preferred forms library is

23:57 <baweaver> Sounds like Devise a bit.

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23:57 <bradland> oh god

23:57 <baweaver> god speed with LDAP by the way.

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23:58 <baweaver> you'd be a better man/woman than me if you can use it for more than a month without chucking something out a window,

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