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<bl4ckdu5t> if n.is_a? Integer . How do I check if it is nota integer without using unless?
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<shevy> if ! n.is_a? Integer
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<eam> all these symbols
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<bl4ckdu5t> ok thanks shevy
<shevy> \o/
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<jhass> what's wrong with unless?
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<shevy> it's so long
<zenspider> yeah. just use unless
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<olivier_bK> how to install refinerycms-authentication i 've run bundle install but after ?
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<bo> hi i was kind of dropped off with this rails site so excuse my question for its lack of information, i am unable to change any of the information in the template files, ie i delete the contact page and it still stays even after restarting the rails server, i see that the webserver is serving the dist folder is there some generate command i am missing after altering the files
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<waxjar> bo: you'll probably get better answers on #rubyonrails (registration with nickserv is required)
<bo> thanks buddy
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<mbff> ls
<mbff> err
<mbff> Hello! I am working with youtube_it and it works on my laptop but not on a vps
<mbff> parser.rb:10:in `rescue in initialize': 403 (OpenURI::HTTPError)
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<mbff> why would openURI not work on a vps
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<wallerdev> 403 is forbidden
<wallerdev> so maybe your program is being blocked or not logged in or something
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<jcp> So I just discovered something interesting while perusing str.c: "foo\n\n\n".chomp = "foo\n\n", but "foo\n\n\n".chomp('') = "foo". Anyone know if this is intentional?
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<shevy> jcp hmm strange
<shevy> I would have assumed .chomp('') to make no modification there
<jcp> As would I
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<jcp> Exactly
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<shevy> "If $/ has not been changed from the default Ruby record separator, then chomp also removes carriage return characters (that is it will remove \n, \r, and \r\n)."
<jcp> So I'm wondering if it's a bug in the documentation or a bug in the implementation
<shevy> well the behaviour is documented so it is not a bug by definition
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<jcp> Waitwhat
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<shevy> I guess you pass in the new Separator to use jcp
<jcp> Right, and that makes sense
<jcp> Hm, hang on
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<shevy> but I am confused
<shevy> '' is another separator than is "\n" right?
<jcp> Right
<shevy> so it was changed, hence the string should not be modified, as specified in the documentation, or?
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<jcp> Right, and I also tried changing $/ directly and it still stripped them off
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<shevy> ok so the default of $/ is "\n" # tested in irb
<jcp> So whichever way you read the documentation ("If the variable $/ hasn't been changed" vs "If you pass something other than $/"), the implementation doesn't match up with the documentation
<jcp> Right
<shevy> yeah jcp
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<shevy> You could file an issue at http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby-trunk
<jcp> Which seems fairly deliberately written
<jcp> I'm about to :-)
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<jcp> (I just wanted to make sure it wasn't "intentional", and that the documentation shouldn't have been updated instead...)
<jcp> Just... The implementation seems so deliberately written..
<jcp> ...
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> perhaps the documentation means to re-assign $/ before invoking .chomp() ?
<jcp> I tried that and it still strips off trailing newlines
<jcp> ...and that was written by matz, parts of it 15 years ago
* jcp wonders if/how many things depend on that...
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<shevy> haha 15 years ago!
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<shevy> doesn't matter how many things depend on it - either it is a bug, or it is no bug, or the documentation is unclear
<shevy> we can't let bugs bitrot away
* jcp agrees
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<jcp> I'm hoping it's a bug - I'm trying to implement String#lchomp, and that's a good chunk of the complexity gone right there
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<shevy> aha
<mynameisbrian> hey guys, I want to build a chat server in ruby. so like those "live chat" things you see on websites for customer service. can any of you point me in the right direction, what kind of networking api I can look into?
<shevy> you could just do a .reverse, .chomp, and a .reverse though
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<jcp> I know :-P
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<jcp> (Or a sub(/\A.../, ''), which is what I've been doing. It just seems a rather glaring omission)
<waxjar> at least it does not remove them if you change $/, and than use #chomp without arguments :P
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<jcp> waxjar: Yep. Thank goodness for some semblence of sanity :-)
<waxjar> *then
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<waxjar> i wonder what's so special about the empty string
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<shevy> it has no name!
<shevy> you can collapse the whole universe into it
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<shevy> what would we do if we'd not have human beings... the stars wouldn't have any names
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<jcp> waxjar: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/string.c#L7117 <- Apparently something
<jcp> And yet, per https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/string.c#L7114, if you pass nil it does absolutely nothing
<waxjar> i guess it's deliberate then.
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<jcp> I thought so too
<jcp> But per https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blame/trunk/string.c#L7114, the last time that code was meaningfully changed was almost 15 years ago
<jcp> Which makes me think it might have been a holdover from a time long since passed...
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<jcp> Eh, I just opened https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/10582. We'll see whether it's addressed with a code change or a documentation change.
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<jcp> HA
<jcp> HAHA
<jcp> It's a holdout!
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<jcp> ...no, I take that back
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<f00dMonsta> ok... why is bundler failing randomly when I try to do "bundler install"? Error: "Gem::RemoteFetcher::FetchError: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=unknown state: certificate verify failed"
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<f00dMonsta> and by randomly, I mean it fails at a random gem when attempting to install
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<f00dMonsta> it could be the first gem, or somewhere in the middle, or the last one...
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<f00dMonsta> I've already tried "gem update --system" to no avail
<f00dMonsta> no effect*
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<f00dMonsta> anyone?
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<jhass> are you on latest bundler and rubygems?
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<jhass> iirc they're rolling out a new cert and rubygems got it included in a recent release
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<webdev413> When I run ' rails generate' I get the error 'Your Ruby version is 2.0.0, but your Gemfile specified 2.1.5' ruby - v reports ruby 2.1.5p273 Can someone help me fix this?
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<StephenA1> Hey. I am trying to get the following to work: http://pastebin.com/Xd3UNLbT. Using the CubeSensor API. Its OAuth 1.0a. But i keep getting a 401 Unauthorized from the API. Here are the APi docs. Not much there: https://my.cubesensors.com/docs
<StephenA1> Any ideas what i could be doing wrong to get the 401 unauthorized?
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<fernandolopez> webdev413: run the following command: whereis ruby
<fernandolopez> to know which version of ruby your system is using as default
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<StephenA1> anyone familar with Oauth 1.0a?
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<webdev413> @fernandolopez whereis ruby -> /usr/bin/ruby so that is the system ruby? ( this is my third reply. I dont see them)
<webdev413> now I see my reply
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<fernandolopez> webdev413: /usr/bin/ruby -v
<fernandolopez> would be 2.0.0?
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<fernandolopez> how you installed ruby 2.1.5?
<fernandolopez> via some package manager or something like rbenv?
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<webdev413> fernandolopez /usr/bin/ruby -v -> 2.0.0 Yes I am trying to use rbenv!
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<fernandolopez> did you run?: rbenv global 2.1.5p273
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<webdev413> $ rbenv global -> 2.1.5 I did not add the p273 on the end
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<fernandolopez> webdev413: thats ok
<fernandolopez> webdev413: did you run rbenv local in the directory of the project?
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<fernandolopez> that can override the global
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<webdev413> rbenv local -> 2.1.5 rbenv shell -> 2.1.5
<webdev413> i previously used rvm and think I uninstalled it correcty
<fernandolopez> webdev413: rbenv local and rbenv shell are not necessary if you have the global set
<fernandolopez> but should not cause any problem
<fernandolopez> check your .bashrc file
<fernandolopez> and .profile (or .bash_profile)
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<fernandolopez> and verify if you removed rvm there and if you have the configuration for rbenv
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<fernandolopez> well you sure have the configuration of rbenv forget that las part
<fernandolopez> :)
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<fernandolopez> I don't know webdev413, check your PATH environment variable
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<fernandolopez> env | grep PATH
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<webdev413> I am using zshell. However in .bashrc it says "export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/bin" # Add RVM to PATH for scripting"
<fernandolopez> ~/.rbenv/(bin|shims) should appear at the beggining
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<fernandolopez> if you use zsh the bash config shouldn't cause problems
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<webdev413> in .profile I have if which rbenv > /dev/null; then eval "$(rbenv init -)"; fi I think zshell uses that dotfile
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<fernandolopez> webdev413: maybe (I don't use zsh)
<webdev413> PATH=/Users/joe/.rbenv/shims:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
<fernandolopez> that looks right
<fernandolopez> try to install rails now
<webdev413> rbenv command is recognized in zshell so that is a good sign
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<fernandolopez> maybe you installed it with your system ruby?
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<webdev413> ahhhhhhh MAYBE :)
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<webdev413> so just 'gem install rails' ?
<fernandolopez> yep
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<riceandbeans> gem install salmon
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<webdev413> gem intall homemade teriyaki sauce
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<webdev413> it still gives me that error.
<fernandolopez> :(
<CrazyM4n> 0 is falsy, correct?
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<webdev413> ruby -v -> ruby 2.1.5p273
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<webdev413> which ruby -> /Users/joe/.rbenv/shims/ruby
<fernandolopez> oh
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<fernandolopez> that changed isn't it?
<webdev413> whereis ruby -> /usr/bin/ruby
<webdev413> which and whereis return different paths
<fernandolopez> ok
<fernandolopez> I tested on my system and it is similar
<fernandolopez> just that whereis show:
<fernandolopez> $ whereis ruby
<fernandolopez> ruby: /usr/bin/ruby /usr/lib/ruby /home/prog/.rbenv/shims/ruby /usr/share/man/man1/ruby.1.gz
<webdev413> you told me to type whereis. that path did not change
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<lbrf> webdev413: which -> user path, whereis -> bin path
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<fernandolopez> webdev413: my bad
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<webdev413> thank you lbrf
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<webdev413> fernando you have 4 paths including an rbenv path I do not have
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<fernandolopez> but I have a GNU/Linux system, maybe whereis behave diferently
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<fernandolopez> the important part is that ruby -v is correct
<fernandolopez> and which confirms that
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<fernandolopez> webdev413 inside your rails project
<fernandolopez> $ head -n1 bin/rails
<fernandolopez> in my case returns
<fernandolopez> #!/usr/bin/env ruby
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<webdev413> i get the same
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<fernandolopez> did you run rbenv rehash after installing rails?
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<webdev413> yes I ran rbenv rehash ... i just ran bundle install and get an error about nokogiri. I have a link to stack that is supposed to address this new issue
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<_1_jose> hola ruby
<lbrf> _1 o/
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<webdev413> fernandolopez Thank you for helping. I will look at this with fresh eyes in the morning
<webdev413> goodnight
<fernandolopez> goodnight
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<havenwood> i think? i'm not sure how you're supposed to figure out what's going on with encoding. apeiros in #ruby always knows.
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<havenwood> oops misstell, but it's true ;P
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<thomas> test
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<havenwood> thomas: success
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<quazimodo> Suffering from a race condition when spawning an interactive process via PTY.spawn (using a slave tty for it's std streams)
<quazimodo> I've dumbed it down, basically, sometimes that test fails returning nil
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<arup_r> shevy: I am back at my work!
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<quazimodo> so, it loks like i went offline
<quazimodo> did anyone bother to take a look at what I was talking about?
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<arup_r_> What's the CSS equivalent of //div[position() > 1] ? I am using Nokogiri
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<godd2> arup_r_ are you asking for a css selector that will grab divs that have a position greater than 1?
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<jmaister> :nth-child perhaps?
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<arup_r_> I figured it out doc.css("select#prod_0 > option:nth-last-child(-n+3)").
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<arup_r_> godd2: MIne is wrong
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<godd2> can you explain in plain english what you want the selector to do?
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<jmaister> Select any child I guess
<jmaister> See xpath position() in the mdn docs
<godd2> any child, or all but the first child?
<godd2> Doesn't //div[position() > 1] mean "select all divs which aren't the first child of their parent"
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<jmaister> Yeah, of course. 0-indexed
<godd2> no, 1-indexed
<godd2> " Note that a node's position in a context is not zero-based. The first node has a position of 1. "
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<arup_r_> >> doc.xpath("//select[@id = 'prod_0']/option[position() > 1]").map(&:text) # => ["XSMALL", "SMALL", "M", "L", "XLARGE"]
<eval-in__> arup_r_ => undefined local variable or method `doc' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/232446)
<arup_r_> godd2: working
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<godd2> seems like for :nth-last-child you'd need to know ahead of time how many children there are to grab all but the first?
<arup_r_> Need CSSequivalent
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<godd2> derp
<godd2> :nth-child(n+2)
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<arup_r_> godd2: thanls
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<knutmithut> hey, is there any existing gem for timed actions? like "do in 5s" or "repeat for 10s every 2s interval do"
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<bentkus> apeiros:
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<knutmithut> thanks, looks good :)
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<shevy> code code code
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<tago> hi, which channel is best for questions about rake?
<workmad3> shevy: developers developers developers developers!
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<shevy> tago perhaps #ruby-lang :)
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<shevy> workmad3 bugs bugs bugs!
<tago> shevy: thanks!
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<rvbt> apeiros
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<shevy> hehe
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<mostlybadfly> what is the diff between this channel and #ruby-lang?
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<canton7> not much in practice tbh. this one's a big bigger
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<shevy> mostlybadfly #ruby-lang is the official one
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<shevy> mostlybadfly I think #ruby-lang was "created" because #ruby was registered first, then the registrar vanished for a while or so and the others who then went on to register #ruby-lang did not want to wait
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<mostlybadfly> hmmm ok interesting
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<mostlybadfly> so this is like the "officiall unofficial" channel :)
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<certainty> hmm do you guys happen to have statistics about the ruby versions in use today?
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<certainty> i'm particularily interested in how much ruby 1.8.7 is still in use
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<certainty> apart from tiobe
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<axilla> probably a pretty small percentage i;d hope
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<shevy> mostlybadfly yeah; it's also where most people will join, because it is consistent with other channels - #perl #python #ruby
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<shevy> certainty I have no statistics but I only use ruby 2.1.5 these days. I could only switch because tenderlove made a syck gem, so I can keep on using invalid yaml files
<certainty> shevy: alright
<shevy> psych is more standards compliant and dies with a screaming fire if you feed it invalid yaml files
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<shevy> so how popular is https?
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<kAworu> hi there, I'm looking for a simple GUI toolkit/framework in Ruby. I'm experienced in Ruby programming but not much with GUI (outside HTML).
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<shevy> ruby-gnome
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<kAworu> shevy: is it gnome only ?
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<shevy> kAworu well, it is based on GTK
<shevy> the gnome bindings are addons; you can use just the gtk subset too
<shevy> I use ruby-gnome because then I can use anything of gnome (if it has bindings, that is) and gtk; with ruby-gtk only I can use only ruby-gtk
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<kAworu> shevy: thanks i'll check it out. I'm reading on shoes too.
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<shevy> shoes unfortunately changed since _why left
<shevy> it now requires java
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<mostlybadfly> shevy: I'll play with ruby-gnome I was looking at shoes
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<kAworu> shevy: aw :(
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<nanSTA> Hello, I am trying to write an object that is created in my program to a database.rb file. When i read the file it turns into a string. My goal is to read the file with an object in it. and set it as a variable. Im want to read/write objects to a database.rb file and use it as my database. Any ideas?
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<shevy> Let's say you guys want to pad a file with 20 ' ' characters on the left side.
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<shevy> For each line. Now, the solution in Ruby is probably pretty straightforward - File.readlines, then a .map
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<shevy> But here is my question - do you really write that code in each project where you use it? Do you write this into standalone .rb files? (For similar small-actions too.)
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<nanSTA> shevy: I would write this standalone as a parse function then use it in other files.
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<lessless> hello folks! what the hell is that https://gist.github.com/lessless/9b6d86aa105c2738cd24 ???
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<jmaister> Is it possible to get an unescaped string from StringIO? That is è instead of &egrave; etc
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<lessless> jmaister, at what point? it gives the same result with SRP::Verifier.new(2048).generate_userauth(3333, 1112221)
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<jmaister> wat?
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<lessless> soory =)
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<nanSTA> Does anyone know why i get "{\"tom\":\"#<CreditCardProcessing:0x007fd40c11d6d0>\"}" when i use to_json on an array #<CreditCardProcessing:0x007fd40c11d6d0 @luhn_check=true, @name="Tom", @limit=1000, @balance=0>.
<nanSTA> Where are all my values going????
<nanSTA> object*
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<jmaister> Ok, this is kind of annoying. How can I get the right output? http://pastebin.com/vnyArbf7
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<Linell_> nanSTA: I'm not sure, but try object.to_a_to_json ?
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<nanSTA> Linell_: There seems to be some kind of serialization
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<jmaister> I've tried CGI::unescapeHTML() but that doesn't work
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<jmaister> HTMLEntities seems to be the way to go
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<shevy> cool method names eh? :>
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<jmaister> entitties
<shevy> titties!
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<shevy> finally a way to remember
<jmaister> titties and beer
<shevy> oh yes
<shevy> but I don't know of a beer() method
<jmaister> htmlentities
<jmaister> eh
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<jmaister> "For people who want to learn to program but don't like waffles"
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<jmaister> Speaks for itself, really
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<nanSTA> Ruby Object to JSON and back?
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<workmad3> 'do not want to use sqlite3, I've been told it's insecure... so I'll mash together my own ball of mud and crap that will be even worse'
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<gregf_> nanSTA: require "json";puts JSON.generate({ name: "tom", limit: 1000, balance: 0 })
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<Sou|cutter> nanSTA: you have to define the serialization. There's all sorts of libraries to help with it, such as 'oj'
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<waxjar> I'd use one of the stdlib's libraries that do databasy things instead of rolling my own json magic
<waxjar> or just sqlite, why not
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<gregf_> nanSTA: oh, you need to convert that object to JSON :/. prolly write a module called Serializer : module Serializer { def to_json;end to_csv;end }
<nanSTA> waxjar: i wrote a class, and it uses objects in memory. How can I use sqlite without having to rewrite my whole class? thats why i stopped with sqlite seemed like too much work for such a simple class
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<waxjar> Marshal.dump maybe
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<jmaister> You can retain the database in memory too, if you like
<nanSTA> jmaister: I am using STDIN input through command line. So it doesnt work
<gregf_> nanSTA: class CreditCardProcessing; attr_accessor :name, :limit, :balance; def initialize(params={}); params.each { |k,v| send "#{k}=", v };end; def to_json; JSON.generate(instance_variables.inject({}) { |h, var| h[var] = instance_variable_get(var);h });end; end;c = CreditCardProcessing.new({ name: "tom", limit: 1000, balance: 0});require "json"; print c.to_json ?
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<jmaister> db = SQLite3::Database.new ":memory:"
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<jmaister> Why wouldn't that work, regardless of input method?
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<waxjar> i think the data should be persisted
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<nanSTA> jmaister: I am pulling up an example, one sec
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<nanSTA> echo "Add Tom 4111111111111111 $1000" | ruby run_program.rb Tom's account has been created! nanSTA:CreditCardRuby nanSTA$ echo "Charge Tom $500" | ruby run_program.rb /CreditCardRuby/parse_data.rb:39:in `block in parse_data': undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
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<nanSTA> how could I add sqlite and still not get an error for a nil class
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<nanSTA> i guess nil object*
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<jmaister> Can't you take your string as a command line argument?
<jmaister> ruby run_program.rb Charge nanSTA $1000
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<nanSTA> jmaister: im unfamiliar :(
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<jmaister> First search result http://stackoverflow.com/q/4244611/927408
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<nanSTA> jmaister: thanks
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<Pupeno> Is there a better way to deterministically select a value from an array based on another value other than array.sample(random: Random.new(other_value))? I'm generating some test data and I want it to deterministic but variable.
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<canton7> Pupeno, can you shuffle the array based on a random generated seeded with a constant value, then pick successive items from it?
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<canton7> that is slightly different behaviour, but may be what you're after
<Pupeno> canton7: not really, it's not a loop that creates a bunch of users but users get created on demand from very different places.
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<Pupeno> canton7: well, it's doable, but it would require global variables and it would also be an ugly hack. Currently I'm going: first_name { |u| SampleDataGenerator::FIRST_NAMES.sample(random: Random.send(*[:new, u.email.try(:hash)].compact)) }
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<Pupeno> Which doesn't work anyway.
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<Pupeno> Oh... it doesn't work because the hash of a string is not that deterministically.
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<workmad3> Pupeno: the default hash algorithm is based off a random seed value nowadays, due to an exploit made possible by having predictable hash values
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<kAworu> workmad3: any link on the exploit ?
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<kAworu> workmad3: i fail to understand how it could lead to an exploit actually.
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<workmad3> kAworu: at least, I think that's the right link :)
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<kAworu> workmad3: thank i'll check ü
<kAworu> !*
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<workmad3> kAworu: basically, by being able to predict the hashes, you could construct sequences that caused hash collisions and an eventual DoS
<Pupeno> Using Digest::MD5.hexdigest(u.email).to_i(16) instead of u.email.hash then.
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<workmad3> Pupeno: heh :) that works
<kAworu> workmad3: I see. Is that considered as a hash algorithm flaw or any non randomized algorithm is considered vulnerable ?
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<jhass> Pupeno: I think if you Kernel#srand plain #sample / #shuffle calls will get reproducable orders, but I never checked
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<jhass> and that might interfer with your test randomization I guess
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<kAworu> workmad3: alright thank you for the info ! I've found https://131002.net/siphash/siphashdos_appsec12_slides.pdf which is a good summary.
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<workmad3> kAworu: yw :)
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<workmad3> kAworu: it's fun how something seemingly innocuous, like a hash algorithm, can cause major headaches at times :)
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> or rabbits
<shevy> who'd have known that they could become a plague in Australia
<workmad3> shevy: do you have a wabbit problem?
<shevy> haha
<shevy> that reminds me... wombats...that's the name of those giant things right?
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<workmad3> shevy: what particular giant things?
<workmad3> shevy: a quick google reckons that a wombat is a short-legged marsuipial about 1m in length...
<workmad3> shevy: I think they're smaller than these giant mice: http://a-z-animals.com/media/animals/images/original/capybara5.jpg
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<shevy> wow
<shevy> like a small bear
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<workmad3> shevy: or a giant hamster
<workmad3> shevy: it's the largest rodent ;)
<avril14th> Hello, is there a way to have string.split returning both matched strings and text between the matched strings. For instance "keyboard".split /y/ => ["ke","y","board"] ?
<workmad3> (or a fish, if you're catholic..>)
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> a fish with fur??
<workmad3> shevy: they like to spend a lot of time in water? :)
<workmad3> shevy: and live in naturally swampy areas
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<shevy> ok don't go off dating one workmad3
<shevy> in the movie "The Holy Grail" they built a castle on a swamp
<workmad3> shevy: and catholic missionaries trying to convert natives that ate capybara reported back that any converts would die of starvation during lent, if they couldn't find something in the area that was possible to classify as an acceptable food
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<shevy> when you are hungry you eat anything
<workmad3> shevy: and so capybara got classified as fish...
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<shevy> even a wombat
<shevy> lol
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<claf> I was going to make a dating app
<shevy> for wombats?
<claf> but, how do I include wombats!
<workmad3> shevy: I guess it's something like catholics aren't allowed to eat meat during lent, or something equally stupid :)
<shevy> workmad3 ah yeah... some people like to follow rules
<jhass> claf: not how, just do it!
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<workmad3> claf: well, first you need a 10 year research project investigating two things - 1) the dating habits of wombats and 2) how to communicate with wombats
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<workmad3> claf: after which you need to train up wombat marketers
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<workmad3> shevy: yeah, plenty of crazy people in the world, especially back in olden times :P
<claf> ensuring theres no anti-wombital behaviour is another problem
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<shevy> what behaviour classifies as anti-wombital?
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<claf> Yeah, that keeps me busy!
<workmad3> shevy: I'd probably start with people shooting and eating them
<workmad3> shevy: and, if the rest of the animal kingdom is anything to go by, there's probably a lot of rape going on in wombat 'society'
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> speaking of rape...
<workmad3> lets not... :P
<shevy> penguin and seal!
<workmad3> heh
<workmad3> those hot little penguins, all dressed up in their fancy dinner outfits
<shevy> lol
<shevy> dinner outfit
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<workmad3> crud, I just thought of an awful parody for the John Lewis ad in the UK this year...
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<workmad3> it just ends with the kid getting a seal toy instead of a penguin 'girlfriend' and cuts to a scene of the penguin in the shower and a seal shadow...
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<nanSTA> Why is it that when I run ruby filename.rb < file.txt it concatenates all my strings correctly in file.txt, but when i run echo "Add Tom 4111111111111111 $1000" | ruby run_program it cuts off the '$' and the '1' ???
<nanSTA> cuts off the dollar sign
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<jhass> nanSTA: because that's how shells work
<jhass> $1 is a shell variable
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<nanSTA> jhass: ahh, i thought so
<jhass> try in your shell: foo='world'; echo "Hello $foo"
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<claf> or just bar='\$100'; echo "I made $bar today"
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<jhass> you don't need to escape in single quotes
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<claf> and thats what it was about!
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<nanSTA> is there anyway i can run Add Tom 4111111111111111 $1000 without having to add a \ before $1000
<nanSTA> it worked though
<jhass> use single quotes
<nanSTA> ah
<nanSTA> i love you guys
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* xxneolithicxx group hug
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<Rodya_> [ubuntu 14.04] i've just dl'ed, make'd, and make installed' ruby 2.1.5 on my machine, yet when i run 'ruby -v' i still get
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<Rodya_> ruby1.9, how do i change to this new version?
<rand0mbits> is there a way to leave a message for an offline user here?
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<havenwood> Rodya_: Please mention in both channels if you cross-post.
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<shevy> rand0mbits I think so, through Freenode/Q operator... something ... /msg ... command command ... I forgot
<havenwood> Rodya_: If you want to switch Rubies, chruby. If you just want to set it to the one you built, adjust your PATH so /usr/local/bin is ahead of /usr/bin.
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<workmad3> rand0mbits: /msg MemoServ help
<rand0mbits> workmad3: thanks!
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<Rodya_> havenwood: thanks, and noted
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<workmad3> rand0mbits: fair warning - notifications of memos come up in the status window, so if the user isn't aware that the memo service exists and doesn't look at the status screen, the memo could be there for a very long time ;)
<xxneolithicxx> Rodya_: sudo update-alternatives --get-selections, ruby is one of them it will let you add another and switch it to be default
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<havenwood> xxneolithicxx: He's not switching between package manager Rubies though, he built one himself.
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<havenwood> He/She*
<rand0mbits> workmad3: ha, yeah, not ideal. do you know if centrx shows up here often enough?
<shevy> usually he is here at around central european evening time
<workmad3> rand0mbits: pretty sure he's around reasonably often
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<rand0mbits> ah, cool. i owe him a referral bonus :)
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<workmad3> rand0mbits: hehe :) just looked at my memo list... I have a grand total of 4, one of them is from 2011, and another is a memo from memoserv, telling me that someone has read a memo I sent... ;)
<workmad3> hmm... referral bonus
<workmad3> I could... pass it on to him...
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<rand0mbits> i guess it's on the clients to implement some sort of memoserv integration
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<rand0mbits> haha, it wouldn't be passing it on - i probably just need the email he uses at DO :)
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<workmad3> rand0mbits: oh... he uses mine? </phishing>
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<rand0mbits> workmad3: i got the joke the first time ;)
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<shevy> </i_did_not_get_the_joke>
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<rand0mbits> that looks like it should be an opening tag :)
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<workmad3> rand0mbits: I'm nothing if not persistent :P
<workmad3> rand0mbits: and it's only a joke if you don't believe me ;)
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<workmad3> shevy: <please_use_valid_xml />
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<elichai2_> hey
<elichai2_> how do i set default value in `GetoptLong`?
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<elichai2_> how i set a default port?
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<jhass> options = defaults.merge(options)
<elichai2_> jhass, what? you looked at the code?
<jhass> briefly
<elichai2_> so i don't understand what you just said :\ i'm newbie to ruby
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<elichai2_> i just must change this tiny thing :)
<elichai2_> ohh, that's an interesting idea :)
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<rand0mbits> centrx: you around?
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<MITA85> hello people!
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<havenwood> hello fellow great apes!
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<godd2> I am pretty great
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<MITA85> what, godd2?
<havenwood> MITA85: Hominidae
<godd2> Hominid ayy, lmao
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<MITA85> Hominidae? I'm new here, pls explain... :)
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<godd2> MITA85 it's a zoology reference
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<MITA85> ah :) it's a side effect :)
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<havenwood> MITA85: i was just personally musing on what all would be included in 'people' as far AI, aliens or future evolved animals. so instead of people i greeted the Hominidae more specifically. great ape. great.
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<MITA85> I often get intesting stuff as side effects in coding infos ;)
<MITA85> it is often intentional...
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<godd2> how do I tell rake to include the lib directory
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<godd2> like how I'd do ruby -Ilib
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<MITA85> ehi people, there is a little idea I've been thinking about some time ago
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<MITA85> making a gateway from Google Groups to NNTP in Ruby
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<MITA85> how hard does it sound to you?
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<centrx> 7?
<shevy> 8!
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<shevy> MITA85 it is always easy when you know what you have to do, and very hard if you don't yet know what to do
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<centrx> If you have already done it once, it is even easier to do it a second time
<shevy> usually!
<centrx> If you use time travel to create a time loop, you may be able to do it without even doing it
<shevy> I don't think time travel is feasible
<centrx> maybe not with MRI
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<centrx> Rubinius accomplishes something very similar
<MITA85> silly
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<MITA85> if you do only what you know exacty what to do, you'll never learn anything
<MITA85> Rubinius?
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<centrx> Rubinius is an inverted moebius-strip system that compiles Ruby with a compiler written in Ruby
<centrx> Some would say this is impossible
<centrx> Like a duck on a boat
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<MITA85> impossible? if that would not work we'd all be working in machine language
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<centrx> MITA85, Can you pick yourself up by your bootstraps?
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<MITA85> ill-formed similarity
<MITA85> no, but I can think being not able to talk and learn speaking again...
<MITA85> at least in principle :)
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<MITA85> you cannot compare a software problem (compiling yourself, learning a native language)
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<MITA85> with a hardware problem (undoing gravity law)
<MITA85> :)
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<MITA85> do you agree centrx?
<pipework> What kinds of fantastic substances are you on?
<MITA85> if it did not work, we'd have no C compilers written in C
<centrx> We cannot see the hardware of the universe
<MITA85> and therefore no we've had no Unix
<shevy> I can
<centrx> We only see layers of emanations of software
<MITA85> no POSIX standard
<shevy> it's written in CHAOS language
<shevy> Brainfuck is super easy compared to CHAOS
<shevy> you need a really big supercomputer in order to run CHAOS
<shevy> big as the universe to pull off such a complex simulation
<MITA85> may be
<MITA85> or perhaps a 8bit 1MHz computer
<shevy> what we need as a next step is the step up from 0 and 1 towards a hybrid computer using biology
<MITA85> being inside the simulation we'd not feel the delay ...
<MITA85> that's silly, anyway :)
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<MITA85> the fact is that it is obvious a compiler would in theory compile a copy of itself
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<MITA85> otherwise every new microprocessor would need to have its programming tools programmed in machine language
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<centrx> There is a third thing
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<pipework> Is it goats? It's goats, isn't it?
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<centrx> close, very close
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<psycho_one> Hi all!
<psycho_one> Please help me with newbie question
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<psycho_one> I'm trying to work with hash: https://gist.github.com/psychoche/4eeb0c6fec36fee48250
<psycho_one> But what if I don't want to print all key-value pairs? How can I print just values of key2, key4 and key5?
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<fmcgeough> someone that I’m working with is using Windows. I never use Windows (Linux/Centos/OS X only) .. he’s running into issues installling gems. read server certificate B: certificate verify failed. is there some good Ruby windows guide I can point him to?
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<benzrf> fmcgeough: http://debian.org/ ;)
<fmcgeough> bwahahaha
<jhass> psycho_one: for 3-4 options I would consider just listing them out
<_1_ayan> hi
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<jhass> psycho_one: puts "foo => #{hash['foo']}"
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<rj46> hello, today after update something bad happened , /home/user/.rbenv/versions/2.1.5/lib/ruby/gems/2.1.0/gems/jekyll-2.5.2/lib/jekyll/convertible.rb:112: stack level too deep (SystemStackError)
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<jhass> psycho_one: for more options I'd make an array and iterate through that: %w(key1 key2 key3 key4).each do |key| puts "#{key} => #{hash[key]}"
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<rj46> Have you had something similar with jekyll ?
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<psycho_one> jhass: thanks! I will try convert it to array and work with it
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<fmcgeough> xybre: thanks. i hope this works for him. looks good to me.
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<finisherr> I’m running the following command in a ruby script: sudo -E ssh -fN -L 80:localhost:9000 -L 8080:localhost:9080 -L 443:localhost:9443 dswan@localhost
<finisherr> For some reason it hangs the terminal
<finisherr> when I run it on the command line the prompt returns
<finisherr> any ideas?
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<xybre> is sudo asking for crdentials?
<xybre> If so, and your ruby script has altered the terminal mode, it would hide the password prompt.
<finisherr> It did, then I authenticated
<finisherr> ohhh
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<finisherr> maybe it would ask for authentication twice
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<finisherr> crap
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<_1_Jasiel> Hola (L)(L)(L)
<_1_Jasiel> como estas(L)
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<finisherr> Any idea how to fix this?
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<xybre> finisherr: sudo-ing inside Ruby is always risky. Can you just sudo the script instead?
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<finisherr> Don’t think so
<finisherr> it’s a Vagrantfile
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<finisherr> so it’s executed but not called directly
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<finisherr> There are actually two sudo commands
<finisherr> the first one works okay
<finisherr> it’s the ssh one that doesn’t
<pipework> Why not net-ssh?
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<pipework> Why can't the user it's executed as have access to SSH? Why does it need sudo?
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<xybre> finisherr: Maybe set up passwordless sudo for the vagrant user? https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/boxes/base.html
<finisherr> oh, the code is being executed on the host
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<finisherr> It’s okay. I can provide a script outside of the Vagrantfile that can handle the SSH tunnels
<finisherr> just would have been cool to have it right in there
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<kl> is it possible to use a Struct without having public setters?
<kl> i.e. I'd just like the attributes to be attr_readers
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<xybre> Anything is possible, not everything is advantageous though.
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<kl> xybre: would you care to bring that philosophy to some practical relevance
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<pipework> kl: Why not just undefine the methods?
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<kl> pipework: how so?
<xybre> kl: There's lots of ways to do it, I'm jsut not sure which will be the best for your use case.
<jhass> kl: you can do something like private *members.map {|m| "#{m}=" }
<pipework> kl: One might think the answer would be in the documentation.
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<kl> pipework: yeah yeah undef_method, but I was thinking more practically with Struct
<pipework> kl: I don't know what you mean
<kl> i.e. best approach of doing that while optimising for minimum necessary code bloat
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<kl> jhass: wouldn't that just return a list of strings to a void context? 0_o
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<jhass> it would what? pretty sure the answer is no
<jhass> private is a method call
<jhass> takes parameters
<kl> xybre: the use case is as generic as they come, downgrading all Struct attributes to only be readable, not writable
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<kl> jhass: oh. I never saw it like that!
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<kl> jhass: ah, that's a pretty nice approach. Thanks!
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<jhass> don't forget #[]=
<kl> Always nice to get a proper response amidst all the power-tripping RTFMers :)
<pipework> Yeah, jhass is pretty awesome if you ever have homework!
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<kl> pipework: ha, thankfully I'm well past that
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<AlbertoCG> It's the firs time I use bundle install at the Gemfile path. Is it normal for it to take so long?
<jhass> yes
<xybre> AlbertoCG: for an existing app? yeah
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<AlbertoCG> Do I have to do this for every app? I did it because it was saying something about jquery-rails not found
<xybre> kl: context is everything, and while that is a solution, you're not really gaining anything over just using a class.
<jhass> probably
<wallerdev> itll be faster for other apps if you already have the gem downloaded
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<jhass> xybre: well, you gain the constructor
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<AlbertoCG> So even if I used gem install jquery-rails it would've taken long?
<jhass> AlbertoCG: you can speed it up a little with the --jobs parameter, see bundle help install
<jhass> AlbertoCG: also if it's on production use --deployment
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<AlbertoCG> jhass, I'm just starting with Rails; the bundle install has taken about 15 mins
<jhass> it's faster if everything declared in the lock is found
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<jhass> if the lock is not in the repo or the deps changed, the dependency resolution has to run again, which takes time
<wallerdev> yeah it wouldve taken just as long to get all the requirements with gem install
<pipework> Especially if you fetch in parallel.
<AlbertoCG> So if I'm using this project as a tutorial it is better to keep modifying the files instead of making new projects for testing
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<wallerdev> if you dont change the gemfile between projects then bundle install wont take more than a few seconds
<pipework> AlbertoCG: Only until you've downloaded all the gems you're going to want to download, but dependency resolution takes some time the first time. You could just copy the Gemfile and Gemfile.lock over to new projects.
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<AlbertoCG> pipework, Oh, thank you. If the first Gemfile I install has many packages probably won't have too many issues for my next projects (Just that this one will take long)
<pipework> AlbertoCG: Sounds like a plan.
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<zacts> yo ruby hackers
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<chipotle> yo zacts
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<theotherstupidgu> yo ruby hackers
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* jhass suddenly understands the yo app
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<xybre> yo @ u
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<jhass> didn't realize that's all the communication some people are capable of, apparently
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<shevy> yo
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<zacts> what's wrong with yo?
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<zacts> I see what's wrong with 'u'
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<zacts> but not yo
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<havenwood> sup
<rpag> yo
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<zacts> let me get thru a few ch of the well grounded rubyist
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<xybre> yo: as a greeting, 1859, but the word is attested as a sailor's or huntsman's utterance since early 15c. Modern popularity dates from World War II (when, it is said, it was a common response at roll calls)
<claf> I tweet my yo's so its easier to screencap em to instag
* claf see me rolling...
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<shevy> yo claf
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<claf> waitasec, I gotta export that to my facebook stream via a irssi perl script
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<godd2> if I add "gemspec" to my Gemfile, does that mean if I don't have to specify gems in my Gemfile if their in the gemspec?
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<jhass> yes
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<AlbertoCG> Installing gems manually worked better than using builder install
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<AlbertoCG> bundle install*
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<godd2> awesome thank you
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<godd2> they're*
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<rand0mbits> what do folks like, chruby, rbenv, or rvm?
<shevy> AlbertoCG \o/
<shevy> rand0mbits the good old source; wget ftp://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/2.1/ruby-2.1.5.tar.bz2
<rand0mbits> shevy: why?
<godd2> sehvy hates learning new things
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<rand0mbits> lol
<havenwood> rand0mbits: i usually use chruby. if i need to build an old ruby on and old system i use rvm.
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<shevy> rand0mbits because it's by far the simplest way to get ruby running. you don't have to learn any extra command-specific instruction
<rand0mbits> do people switch ruby versions often? why?
<havenwood> rand0mbits: if you want to switch between Rubies, chruby is a great way to go. if you don't need to switch Rubies, you don't need a Ruby switcher.
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<havenwood> rand0mbits: some people switch rubies often, often on dev machines
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<havenwood> rand0mbits: on servers, Rubies are rarely switched and Ruby version switchers aren't required
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<rand0mbits> ah, that's making more sense now
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<havenwood> rand0mbits: if you're say working on an MRI project, but also have Rubinius and JRuby ones. or to switch to be on the exact same version as production for a given project.
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<rand0mbits> how would one switch without a ruby switcher?
<havenwood> rand0mbits: chruby is a very simple way to switch between Rubies. you can switch to a package manager ruby, or one you build yourself, or the ruby-install ones are picked up by default.
<brixen> rand0mbits: something like update_alternatives on debian
<brixen> rand0mbits: but support for more than one instance of some thing (eg like more than one python or ruby) is pretty rare
<havenwood> rand0mbits: there are OS-specific tools sometimes, depends on the OS/distro. or you can manually set environment variables, etc.
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<brixen> many plugs for the simplicity and utility of chruby
<brixen> but don't deploy it in production (or any switcher, for that matter)
<rand0mbits> why's it not a good idea to deploy switchers in production?
<brixen> the actual environment for your app can vary
<brixen> which is not a good thing
<brixen> unless you enjoy debugging
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<havenwood> rand0mbits: you can build to /usr/local so it's already in front of your PATH (typically, or you can make it so if not) or better yet hopefully have a nice shiny package to install :)
<rand0mbits> no package, running on debian...
<rand0mbits> haven't played with linux for a number of years now, so slowly soaking it in
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<atmosx> hello
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<havenwood> rand0mbits: i think an up to date debian should have a ruby1.9.1-full (Ruby 1.9.3) at least
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<rand0mbits> yeah, it does. i figure i want something newer
<shevy> debian still has no 2.x?
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<pipework> Why would you want a second release in a rolling release system?
<AlbertoCG> I'm on Ubuntu, Ruby 1.9.3p484
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<AlbertoCG> Which are the specs a web host should meet for me to use Ruby on Rails on it?
<shevy> this makes me sad
<atmosx> shevy: no, but installing ruby from source in debian is trivial. Also for serves works way better than RVM... Especially if you're going to run services based on ruby.
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<atmosx> AlbertoCG: rails + MySQL + Nginx I assume?
<atmosx> or apache?
<pipework> Or you can use ruby-install, which is nice.
<pipework> Or you can use packaged rubies.
<pipework> (not the distro repo rubies, they tend to be less than up to date)
<havenwood> rand0mbits: to install latest ruby to /usr/local with ruby-install it'd just be: ruby-install --system ruby 2.1.5
<rand0mbits> yea, i just did exactly that :)
<shevy> GOOD
<shevy> YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO 2.1.5
<shevy> if you fail
<shevy> you get booted
<AlbertoCG> atmosx, can install using shell?
<rand0mbits> ha, it's been going for like 5 min now, if not more
<atmosx> AlbertoCG: hmm yes ( I can't think of any other way, truth to be told)
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<rand0mbits> ooh, done
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<havenwood> you can actually specify --md5, --sha1, --sha256 and --sha512 and it will validate all of them ;)
<shevy> rand0mbits yeah it takes a while
<AlbertoCG> atmosx, Almost any web host with shell CLI would work?
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<shevy> we aren't yet in the century of instant compilation
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<pipework> havenwood: Is there a --validate flag that runs them all, or would that be too easy?
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<havenwood> pipework: they automatically all validate if it's a known ruby :)
<pipework> ooh.
<pipework> moar better
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<atmosx> AlbertoCG: of course
<havenwood> using ruby-versions now to track all them checksums: https://github.com/postmodern/ruby-versions
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<AlbertoCG> I ran rails console and this showed up https://gist.github.com/72a6c240006a26433b33.git Anyone knows what to do?
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<wallerdev> what version of ruby do you have
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<AlbertoCG> 1.9.3p484
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<wallerdev> maybe upgrade
<wallerdev> no clue though lol
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<wallerdev> try #rubyonrails maybe
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<AlbertoCG> Thank you
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<XxionxX> Hello, I am learning ruby and I heard this was a good place to ask questions. I am trying to make a simple game and I don't understand something that the gosu library is doing. This is my code: https://gist.github.com/XxionxX/a552f11990191ef830be and I don't understand how the Player class is stripping the background color from my starship. I didn't specify a color for it to strip and it seems to be doing it automatically. What is going on
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<timmmaaaayyy> how can i gsub everything after the last
<AlbertoCG> I added the require 'unit/test' to test_case.rb and still this shows when 'rails console' https://gist.github.com/83d8035fb35696945908.git
<timmmaaaayyy> "/"
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<timmmaaaayyy> let me try that again.....how can i gsub everything after the last / in a url?
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<timmmaaaayyy> im using this to get the filename from the URL: full_filename = http_url.gsub(/.*\//, "") ...... now i can't figure out how to get the other half of the URL
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<go|dfish> timmmaaaayyy: you may want to use the URI module. http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.1.5/libdoc/uri/rdoc/URI.html
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<timmmaaaayyy> i'm looking at that....it does seem like that might be the "proper" way to do it
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<timmmaaaayyy> its more fun to be a hack though :)
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<timmmaaaayyy> if i did something like : pre_filename_url = http_url.split("/").last how can i tell it i want everything before the split instead of after the split?
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<go|dfish> timmmaaaayyy: well, the hack way would be: http_url.match(/(.*\/)(.*)/)
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<timmmaaaayyy> that's returning the entire url still
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<XxionxX> Guess this isn't the right place to ask :/
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<go|dfish> >>> "http://www.google.com/zomg.html".match(/(.*\/)(.*)/)
<eval-in__> go|dfish => /tmp/execpad-31f7ae4a5f8c/source-31f7ae4a5f8c:2: syntax error, unexpected '>' ... (https://eval.in/232697)
<go|dfish> >> "http://www.google.com/zomg.html".match(/(.*\/)(.*)/)
<eval-in__> go|dfish => #<MatchData "http://www.google.com/zomg.html" 1:"http://www.google.com/" 2:"zomg.html"> (https://eval.in/232698)
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<go|dfish> timmmaaaayyy: ^
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<XxionxX> Would anyone know where I could ask? The Gosu forums won't let me make a post.
<timmmaaaayyy> hmmmm. that's not working for me. wierd.
<go|dfish> XxionxX: There is a #gosu channel here on freenode
<XxionxX> go|dfish: Thank you!
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<timmmaaaayyy> pre_filename_url = http_url.match(/(.*\/)(.*)/)
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<go|dfish> timmmaaaayyy: pre_filename_url, full_filename = http_url.match(/(.*\/)(.*)/)[1, 2]
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<timmmaaaayyy> ahhh thats the jam!
<timmmaaaayyy> thank you!
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<kylekersey> Has anyone here compiled Ruby for Android ARMv7?
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<wallerdev> as if android devices werent already slow enough
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<kylekersey> wallerdev: i have a fast tablet, that should not be much of a problem.
<wallerdev> oh an ipad?
<wallerdev> thought you said android
<wallerdev> lol ;)
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<kylekersey> i have android samsung tab S pro
<wallerdev> anyway nope ive never compiled ruby for ARM
<kylekersey> I do not know how to configure it for building.
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<kylekersey> I just got done compiling lua for android and now i want to compile ruby.
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<kylekersey> I am using the Android NDK to cross compile for ARM.
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