apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p0: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p392) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<ziggles> Any suggestions for platform independent way of playing a .wav?
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<SparkyFlary> what's the difference between radiant cms and locomotive cms?
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<SparkyFlary> I need a kitchen sink kind of thing
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<Elicro> hey I am running a bit complex script and I want to know if in v2 it will run faster and if anyone has suggestions about making the script run faster. THANKs
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<Elicro> LINK IN a sec
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<Elicro> ruby takes a lot of time parsing the input compared to grep or sed.. so I am wondering of a way to make parsing faster.
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<Apathetic> do ah di di doom di di dum di di doom
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<n1n3v3h> hihi
<n1n3v3h> rails --version brings up the wonderful rubygems version error rack (1.5.2 not ~>1.4.5)
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<n1n3v3h> i'm still just getting back into this
<n1n3v3h> so i'm clueless
<n1n3v3h> do forgive
<n1n3v3h> but i am sure we can fix this
<n1n3v3h> do not be alarmed
<n1n3v3h> i shall conquor the redmine installation process
<n1n3v3h> i will be at one with it
<n1n3v3h> one day i shall be able to recall it backwards
<n1n3v3h> I LOVE UNIKZ DEPENENCIEZ
<n1n3v3h> it's almost as fun as win98 dll hell
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<n1n3v3h> dudes the problem is
<n1n3v3h> that all the documents im reading
<n1n3v3h> are probably out of date
<n1n3v3h> i'm trying to do this on a centos 6.3
<n1n3v3h> which as one might imagine
<n1n3v3h> is probably a very bad idea
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<n1n3v3h> where is config/initializers/session_store.rb
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<n1n3v3h> it's like this thing changes more often than the linux kernel
<n1n3v3h> people need to just relax
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<n1n3v3h> and stop shifting shit around every day
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<Sargun> Is ruby 1.8 Marshal compatible with ruby 1.9?
<n1n3v3h> that's a good question
<n1n3v3h> why are there so many version problems these days
<n1n3v3h> we need to solve this version problem dudes
<n1n3v3h> i have an idea
<n1n3v3h> but you'll all have to bare with me
<n1n3v3h> it wil take a few more months
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<Sargun> We just stop writing ruby, and stop writing all the ruby code?
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<Sargun> Port it to java
<Sargun> or python
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<n1n3v3h> that would be a good idea
<n1n3v3h> dudes i've almost brought redmine up
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<Gate> Anyone else using rabl experience a jump in rendering times when upgrading to ruby 2.0?
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<Monika_11> hi
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<Monika_11> #newbie
<clocKwize> hi
<hoelzro> hello
<Monika_11> kinda new to this
<clocKwize> to what?
<clocKwize> ruby or irc
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<Monika_11> both :)
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<Monika_11> it seems really slow, but not sure whether that is my connection? or is it just quiet ?
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<hoelzro> quiet
<Monika_11> what is this channel about - or just a general hangout?
<hoelzro> =)
<Monika_11> hoelzro - ahh... i see - well, I'll just keep talking and see what happens :)
<hoelzro> well, it's mainly for Ruby questions, but we find ourselves having other conversations from time to time
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<tobiasvl> is Monika_11 a bot?
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<clocKwize> Monika_11: its about programming and stuff >.<
<Monika_11> oh!! sorry, wrong place - definitely not my strength - thanks anyhhow
<Monika_11> not sure how to leave though .... :P
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<clocKwize> do /part #ruby
<clocKwize> but you can stay if you want lol
<clocKwize> its a free world
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<Monika_11> hehee... cheers:)
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<clocKwize> suit yourself! :D
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<aces1up> can someone let me know whats up with this bit o code.. seems to work find with activerecord3.0.0 but after updating AR to latest version getting error http://pastie.org/7715118
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<Hanmac> aces1up: #rubyonrails
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<Hanmac> aces1up: try this: where(&:fail_conditions)
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<samuelj> Hey everyone, I have a long running process that isn't set to terminate for a few hours, but I despreately need to hotpatch it (just a small tweak to a config var). Is there a tool that can do this? Pry perhaps?
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<hemanh> meow
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<hemanh> Hanmac: started octopressing h3manth.com/new ....i'm waiting for your one liners blog :)
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<Hanmac> hemanh: currently i am writing more on my game/script engine its more fun than blogs
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<hemanh> Hanmac: heh heh I agree, but also ....
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<Hanmac> hemanh: do you want to see what i already have of my script code?
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<hemanh> Hanmac: indeed! :)
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<Hanmac> hemanh: https://github.com/OpenRubyRMK/game-engine/tree/master/data/scripts/2.0 there are the current new stuff .. there is also a test ordner where some functions like :equip are tested
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<hemanh> reading
* Hanmac is counting down ... 3 ... 2 ... 1... and now hemanh is confused ;P
<hemanh> :D
<hemanh> you read my mind Hanmac !
<hemanh> Game.changed
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<Hanmac> hemanh: its because the Game module extends the Observable module from stdlib (for event catching)
<hemanh> noticed that, is it some kina pattern?
<Hanmac> hm yeah its some kind of observer pattern ... hm we may not need it but i thought it would be cool
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<hemanh> kool, had read about patterns, neva got to implement them all, starts with factors can remember till facade or something heh heh, also read about anti-patterns
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<Hanmac> hemanh: the problem is: if the GameObjects itself are observable, THEN they cant be marshal anymore ... and i like marshal soo i need some kind of global observer that crashs my wave function ;P ... so i use the Game module itself for that
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<hemanh> Hanmac: pretty complicated, anyway game design seems to be a good case to apply and study patterns :)
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<Hanmac> hm i may be use also some kind of anti-pattern ;P ... or for sample if you do RPG::Weapon.new(:sword) you can do later this: RPG::Weapon[:sword] to get the instance back
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<hemanh> Yeah have noticed RPG::Weapon[:sword] kina stuff at many places
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<Hanmac> hemanh: did you also look at the tests? they may help you with understanding
<hemanh> Hanmac: ya when I got confused I went to the test dir :)
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<hemanh> test_states.rb specially
<hemanh> Is this game similar to DD?
<Hanmac> DD?
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<hemanh> Dungeons & Dragons
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<Hanmac> the scripting should be similar to the RPG makers from Enterbrain ... included with some addionalstuff from Pen&Paper games like Drakensang (look at my abilities)
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<hemanh> ha, ok!
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<Hanmac> hemanh: and yeah it might be similar to D&D too ... (with an little crazyness from me ;P )
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<hemanh> Hanmac: let me know once it's ready, I will be one of the first players heh heh
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<Hanmac> hm currently it is not an game itself, but it can be used for one, but we may make an test game
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<hemanh> gaming framework!
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<krz> ruby is optimistic? true || false returns true
<krz> false || true also returns true
<krz> why not false?
<krz> :-D
<hoelzro> because that's how or works
<maasha> or is the greatest
<Xeago> because the statement 'a || b' returns either lefthand or righthand
<Xeago> if a is falsy b is returned
<krz> but that argument could have been easily applied for false
<Xeago> krz: which argument?
<krz> if either is false, false should have returned
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<Xeago> if both are false, false is returned
<hoelzro> that's and
<hoelzro> or works like this:
<Xeago> false && true => false
<hoelzro> a ? a : b
<hoelzro> and works like this:
<hoelzro> !a ? a : b
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<tobiasvl> this is how the "or" operator works in most programming languages
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<krz> ah good read
<hoelzro> Think about the statement "I have apples or I have oranges"
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<hoelzro> if I have apples but not oranges, the statement is true
<hoelzro> if I have oranges but not apples, it's still true
<hoelzro> the only case in which it's false is if I have neither
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<Hanmac> hoelzro: you need a bit carefull about ! ... its a method call, that makes "unless foo" faster than "if !foo" but the result could be different
<hoelzro> sigh
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<hoelzro> good point
<Hanmac> for others, yeah ! can be overwritten
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<BinaryMaster> Has anyone ever used Sequel?
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<tobiasvl> yes
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<BinaryMaster> I think I'm missing something from the docs how does the model get an instant of the db connection
<butblack> quick question, I'm going through a Ruby Tapas episode and see this: https://gist.github.com/ebbflowgo/5458966
<butblack> why @listeners && @listeners.each … why wouldn't you just put @listeners.each
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<tobiasvl> butblack: if @listeners is nil, just the latter would give a NilException
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<tobiasvl> err, no it wouldn't, because add_listener assigns it if it's nil
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<tobiasvl> so yes, if you always call add_listener before iterating over @listeners, you don't need to check if it's nil
<butblack> tobiasvl: i guess just to be save..
<butblack> .ya
<BinaryMaster> Do you just make the connection else where in your application before a data model is used? Does the super class have a method to then get an instance of that connection? Or do you have to make the connection in each model?
<butblack> makes sense, I'm getting instance variable @listeners wasn't set (when i don't call add_listener)
<butblack> thanks (y)
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<Hanmac> butblack: you can do: Array(@listeners).each ;P
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<butblack> Hanmac: you're right
<butblack> that's a nice solution
<butblack> i wonder why avdi didn't use it..
<clocKwize> why can't you set @listeners to [] on initialize?
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<Hanmac> clocKwize: maybe he cant
<clocKwize> Hanmac: thats quite a useless statement
<clocKwize> (@listeners ||= [] << listener)
<Hanmac> for sample when he does do it on the main object
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<BinaryMaster> Can anyone that has used the Sequel gem explain this to me? How does a model get a database connection? Do you just make the connection else where in your application before a data model is used? Does the super class have a method to then get an instance of that connection? Or do you have to make the connection in each model?
<clocKwize> so he could do @listeners = [] at the top before the method
<clocKwize> (@listeners ||= [] << listener) -- this is WTF code
<Hanmac> clocKwize: no he cant because ||= [] does have a special meaning
<clocKwize> if things are initialised to decent defaults, the code would be perfectly readable
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<clocKwize> Hanmac: I know what meaning it has, its still way more complicated than it needs to be
<Hanmac> butblack: the () are placed wrong, you need: (@listeners ||= []) << listener
<butblack> Hanmac: you are correct
<Hanmac> if i got 1Exp each time i am been right, i would already Lvl 70 ;P
<clocKwize> butblack: you should set @listeners at the start, to simplify the code everywhere.. https://gist.github.com/ebbflowgo/5458966/#comment-821140
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<Niels___> sorry, if this is not the correct channel, but.. i've setup capistrano, and got i working for deployment. however, i'm having trouble figuring what the best approach is to this. i have .htaccess files, config and database settings in my repo that should only be used locally. So what I did was, changed the settings to meet the server's demands, and then in a deploy task did run mv #{previous_release}/settings #{latest_release}/settings, but i thi
<Niels___> this is rather stupid. what's the best approach for this?
<butblack> clocKwize: I agree it's nicer to read.. I'm just reading through Ruby Tapas ep 21
<butblack> it does add an additional line..
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<clocKwize> butblack: less code != more readable, easier to maintain, less bugs
<Hanmac> it depends, i for myself likes codegolfing ;P
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<butblack> clocKwize: haha
<butblack> Hanmac: lol *
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<Flexa> hey guys, I have a script to prune ec2 ebs volumes: https://gist.github.com/74dd87de4662d9319269
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<Flexa> line 32, problem that if a device isnt attached, it cannot get bits of information it expects and blows up...how can I get around this so it deals with it gradefully?
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<csmrfx> Flexa: test if dev is attached?
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<Flexa> with ANOTHER if clause?
<Flexa> :(
<csmrfx> OMG
<Flexa> must be a nice ay to do it in ruby?
<Flexa> :P
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<csmrfx> ever heard of duck typing?
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<Flexa> nope ...
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<csmrfx> there is this thing called "search engine"...
<Flexa> ok
<Flexa> i think i head of it
<tobiasvl> Flexa: if you don't want another if test, catch exceptions instead?
<Flexa> i'll google google
<Flexa> tobiasvl: could do I guess
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<Flexa> i just want it to be like, if volume is not attached, don't blow up but just leave that space blank ..
<tobiasvl> what do you mean by "blow up"?
<tobiasvl> does it throw an exception?
<tobiasvl> nil?
<csmrfx> blow up:
<csmrfx> >> randomThing.mount
<eval-in> csmrfx => /tmp/execpad-831860555c63/source-831860555c63:2:in `<main>': undefined local variable or method `randomThing' for main:Object (NameError) (http://eval.in/17577)
<csmrfx> eek, undefined!
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<Flexa> tobiasvl: if it encounters a volume that isn't attached, it can't load the volume.attachments.first.device for example (for obvious reasons)
<Flexa> and throws ./prune_volumes.rb:32:in `block (2 levels) in <main>': undefined method `device' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
<Spooner> Flexa, threads = @ec2.regions.map {|r| Thread.new { yield r } }.map(&:join)
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<csmrfx> >> defined? volume.attachments.device
<eval-in> csmrfx => nil (http://eval.in/17578)
<Spooner> (actually, the "threads =" bit is redundant too).
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<Flexa> cheers Spooner
<csmrfx> >> defined? BasicObject.new
<eval-in> csmrfx => "method" (http://eval.in/17579)
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<Spooner> Flexa, (time - volume.create_time).div(60*60*24) # Force int division.
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<Flexa> Spooner: pwning the refactoring
<Flexa> love it
<Flexa> :)
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<Flexa> Spooner: any thoughts on how best to deal with the problem that if the volume isn't attached to anything it blows up on ^^ ?
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<Spooner> I've not looked at the "actual" problem yet.
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<csmrfx> howcome defined? isn't enough?
<csmrfx> whats there to deal with
<Flexa> heh
<csmrfx> ah well, 3pm coffee time!
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<Spooner> Flexa, I believe that results.sort_by{ |k| [k[0], k[1]] }) == results.sort
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<Spooner> Flexa, How do you know whether a volume is attached?
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<Flexa> if volume.status = 'in-use'
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<Flexa> it is attached
<Flexa> if volume.status = 'available'
<tobiasvl> sure?
<Spooner> Just use an "if volume.status = 'in-use'; results << []; end" surely?
<Spooner> Or unless volume.attachments.empty?
<tobiasvl> oh yeah
<Flexa> but then the results will be sqewed when the are put into table
<tobiasvl> the nil exception was on first
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<Spooner> Oh, you still want the result; just not those fields?
<Flexa> aye
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<Spooner> attachment = volume.attachments.first || OpenStruct.new; results << [...attachment.name, attachment.whatever...]
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<Spooner> Oh no, it doesn't work for instance.id. Well. Oops.
<Flexa> o_0
<Flexa> lol
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<Spooner> a = volume.attachments; device, id = a.empty? ["", ""] : [a.first.device, a.first.instance.id] # Any better?
<tobiasvl> missing a ? there
<Spooner> I missed out a ? operator.
<Spooner> Always forget them after a ? method :$
<Flexa> :o
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<Hanmac> you can also write ;P a.empty??["",""]:[]
<Flexa> where should it go? sorry just trying to understand
<Flexa> :p
<Flexa> omgad, all the ways!
<Spooner> Hanmac, If you just give it an empty array, then device and id will be nil, surely!
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<Spooner> Here is one for the evil: device = volume.attachments.first.device rescue "" # do not use!
<Hanmac> Spooner: yeah, but what i want to show was the ??
<Spooner> Oh, I see, right.
<Spooner> I like spaces though!
<Flexa> heh
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<adman65> anyone know why amqp publish calls would be failing inside a rack app, but not failing inside the rackup file?
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<tagrudev> easy way to get the next key in a hash ?
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<troessner> unless you use an ordered hash you cant do that since hashes are per se not ordered tagrudev
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<tagrudev> troessner, I see
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<Xeago> troessner: as of 1.9.x hashes are ordered by default (insertion-order)
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<tobiasvl> "Hashes enumerate their values in the order that the corresponding keys were inserted."
<tobiasvl> tagrudev: so the answer is: by enumerating the hash :)
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<Banistergalaxy> Lazy each key. First
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<adac> If I have a uri object like ie. this: => #<URI::HTTP:0x00000004710cd8 URL:http://images.example.com/example.jpg> how can I extract the full uri?
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<adac> ah its simply: to_s
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<troessner> tobiasvl, interesting, i missed that one apparently
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<Liru> adac: Yeah, Ruby's odd like that
<Liru> I come form a C background, so my first question was usually "how can I do this"
<csmrfx> no
<csmrfx> ruby is not odd like that
<Liru> Now it's "where's the function that does this for me"
<csmrfx> it is the URI class that implements that feature
<csmrfx> whether to_s gives you the url or something else, up to discussion
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<Liru> maybe calm down and read what I wrote before you jump in and get all huffy about nothing
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<csmrfx> calm down? huffy? Your fantasy
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<csmrfx> just. pointing. out.
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<Liru> because instead of waiting for me to finish, you decided to jump in when you saw "ruby is odd"
<Liru> right
<csmrfx> no.
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<csmrfx> You got it wrong, again.
<Hanmac> Liru if you want to do it more C like you can do String(uri)
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<Liru> Hanmac: What I'm saying is that there's usually a way to do something that I'm looking to do
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<Liru> and it's a matter of finding the function instead of coding it myself
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<csmrfx> Liru: use ri.
<Liru> Yeah, I do now
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<shevy2> Liru I cant be bothered searching, I often write things for myself quickly and when I happen to use it in different .rb files, I make it into a gem :P
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* Hanmac doesnt often write gems, but when i do i do them in C++ ;P
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<aedorn> oh yes, HTTP requests in C++. So much fun!
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<aedorn> I feel like what I'm doing is wrong. Like if I finish this whole subset of items that the world will implode from just how wrong it was to even do it.
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<Liru> aedorn: I'm doing something similar. Probably not code-wise, but concept wise
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<Liru> It's like "there's a better way, but I don't know what it is, oh god I'm going to be shot for writing this code aren't I"
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<aedorn> Liru: Good! Glad to know that if life ends tomorrow it was only *half* my fault!
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<Liru> ...uh oh
<Liru> no
<Liru> what are you doing
<Liru> don't code LHC software in ruby
<Liru> :<
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<aedorn> oh, nothing much... probably just the most convoluted GUI for a Ruby app ever created.
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<Hello9> Hello! :D
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<Hello9> hey
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<atmosx> halo
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<Hello9> what's up?
<Spooner> LHC? Left handed cabbage?
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<Hello9> lol
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<Sou|cutter> large hadron collider?
<aedorn> mmmm cabbage
<Hello9> Wanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/
<Hello9> feel free to join :)
<Sou|cutter> what color is the shed?
<Spooner> Hello9, There is a Python and bash forum, but no Ruby. How are we going to be interested? :D
<Hello9> hold on
<Hello9> the is not...?
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<Hello9> There is
<Hello9> under "Web Development"
<Hello9> "Perl and Ruby Development"
<Spooner> Yeah, you just lost the channel then. Ruby != Rails
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<aedorn> rails new console_app
<Hello9> Here's the link to the Ruby section: http://thedevshed.net/forum/perl-ruby-development/
<Flexa> Spooner, I have made some changes but am still a bit confused :/
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<Flexa> line 29, the if never gets triggered, but if i puts volume.status I get a string 'in_use'
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<Flexa> also, know a better way of doing it? This way, if there are unattached volumes, the attchment info will not get shown for any of the volumes, not just the ones that are not attached.
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<Spooner> Flexa, Line 18 you create a global that isn't used again (and using @ivars is frowned upon in the global scope).
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<Spooner> Flexa, I don't know what volume.statis can be. Likely it should be "in-use" or "in use" or similar.
<Spooner> Try a puts in there too see.
<Spooner> *to see
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<Flexa> I have Spooner, i get 4 strings (for my 4 volumes) all 'in_use'
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<Spooner> Flexa; just realised you don't #join the threads. I'd use the parallel gem to make things simpler, perhaps?
<Flexa> hmm oki
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<Spooner> I'm at a loss. I'd recommend: p [volume.status, volume.status == "in_use", volume.status.encoding, "in_use".encoding] # Suspecting that they aren't really the same; perhaps encoding is different?
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<Hello9> Wanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/
<Hello9> feel free to join :)
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<Spooner> Please don't spam, Hello9
<Hello9> Ok
<Hello9> sorry :!
<Hello9> :|
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<injekt> Yeah good idea, use 'dev shed' like that's not already taken
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<aedorn> Anyone interested in Ruby-based tools to create Linux system ISOs (so you can customize a distribution, burn the ISO, and use it to install)?
<Xeago> I haven't heard of anyone using iso's nowadays
<Xeago> vagrant+chef/puppet is a common toolset
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<aedorn> Yeah, but that won't install a base system which is what I'm targeting
<Xeago> docker is also cool
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<aedorn> as in ... the actual OS that you have to boot to in order to even use vagrant+anything else
<Xeago> you give vagrant a base system, you can optionally have that as a step on your host
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<Xeago> you usually start with stuff virtualized and then extract that to hardware
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<gchristensen> with rbenv, is there a way to make a command installed in a particular version of Ruby executable on its particular ruby version available nomatter what my system ruby version is?
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<aedorn> Xeago: Yeah, don't think you're my target audience here ;)
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<Xeago> aedorn: the way I deal with setting up a new server, is installing an image I extracted from a vm over network
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<Xeago> at least, thats how I did it 8 years ago
<Xeago> nowadays I just swap harddrives :3
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<aedorn> Xeago: Right, not my target audience still. Thinking more along the lines of those who actually create Linux distributions, or maybe those who are interested in doing such but lack the tools to do something like rapid prototyping on an OS level.
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<toddWork_> hi. could use some help looping and grabbing vars from a hash: https://gist.github.com/cernalpanic/c6134435f0a10b781e16
<toddWork_> thanks
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<MrZYX> toddWork_: .send(k, v), I hope this isn't user input
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<jameshyde_> how to read in ruby array output like ["aa","bb","cc"] and convert it to something like: aa\nbb\ncc (each element in a separate line?
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<MrZYX> jameshyde_: #join
<jameshyde_> MrZYX: ?
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<MrZYX> >> ["a", "b"].join("\n")
<eval-in> MrZYX => "a\nb" (http://eval.in/17592)
<toddWork_> MrZYX: it is not.
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<MrZYX> toddWork_: .public_send("#{k}=", v) actually
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<horrror> is there a faster way to check if a class has a method defined and if it
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<horrror> and if it's equal to some value?
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<horrror> if node.respond_to?(:method) && node.method > 123
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<jameshyde_> MrZYX: ["a","b"] is read in as a string, not an array, is it possible to convert it back to an array in ruby?
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<MrZYX> jameshyde_: in theory you could just eval it, but I guess it's user input, so that's not the smartest idea
<toddWork_> MrZYX: thank you, public_send is working for the k,v. now, how do i replace that variable :garage w/ key?
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<jameshyde_> MrZYX: it's an array output string from another ruby script, so it should always work. thanks!
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<MrZYX> toddWork_: exactly like you did, I've no idea what the hell .settings does, but maybe it expects a symbol, so try calling .to_sym
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<toddWork_> MrZYX: yes, that was it. good to know. thanks
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<hashpuppy> is there a preferred style over: [1, 2].map{|x| self.foo(x)}
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<rippa> no
<rippa> oly, drop self
<rippa> *only
<rippa> [1, 2].map{|x| foo(x)}
<MrZYX> and the parens ;P
<hashpuppy> yeah, i left it there just to show what it was
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<Hanmac> [1,2].map(&method(:foo))
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<hashpuppy> Hanmac: yeah, that's what I was wondering. is that the preferred style?
<MrZYX> IMO nope
<MrZYX> it's Hanmac style
<hashpuppy> heh
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<curtis___> wondering if anyone has used ruby to direct input to a python script using the getpass method. I'm trying to automate passing a password to a password prompt that is given half way through a script I cannot modify
<curtis___> currently trying to figure out how to use IO.popen for this
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<jeebster> any brasileiros in the house?
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<lectrick> obligatory HUEHUEHUEHUE
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<wgosling> Is there somthing I can put in my Rakefile that has the same effect as the "--suppress-backtrace '.*'" command line switch?
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<Olipro> is there a way to override CONFIG["LDFLAGS"] in the RbConfig module when compiling a gem?
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<tektonidis> see this dudes :)
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<morrolan_> Err, that link up there is kind of NSFW (and slightly disturbing), don't let curiosity get the better of you. *sigh*
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<Flexa> Spooner: any refactoring could be better? not sure about Thread and join bit, what could I replace with?
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<Spooner> Flexa, You have #join in there. I just didn't notice it when I made that comment.
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<Flexa> ah ok
<Flexa> np
<Flexa> thx dude
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<Spooner> Anything wrong now or just wanting to optimise?
<Flexa> looking to optimise really
<Spooner> As I said before, the @vars are unused. Just call it ec2.
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<Flexa> thats where I'm really our of my dpth :)
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<Spooner> @ivar is for classes. No classes there ;) In the global scope, @ivar acts like a global ($global).
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<Flexa> ah
<Flexa> would that actually cause any overhead?
<Spooner> No. It is just bad practice.
<Flexa> :)
<Flexa> gotch
<Flexa> a
<Spooner> (well, it would not get garbage collected, but that doesn't matter in this example).
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<Spooner> Flexa, "Let's have a look at what you could have won" ;) I remember that!
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<Flexa> globals stay after garbage collection?
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<Flexa> heh
<MrZYX> total nitpick: I prefer .each over .map if the return value is not of interest, so ec2.regions.map {|r| Thread.new { yield r } }.each(&:join)
<Flexa> i wanted a dry run options
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<canton7> Flexa, globals never go out of scope, so can't be GC'd
<Spooner> Anything stays if there is still a reference to it.
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<Flexa> kk
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<Flexa> changed MrZYX :)
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<Flexa> MrZYX: Spooner :)
<Flexa> could you help me with this error?
<Flexa> last thing I promise :P
<Flexa> is giving me this
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<Flexa> and its supposed to be in here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3d72df883587f6c4bfb5
<Flexa> :D
<canton7> the results array contains some strings and some sub-arrays iirc?
<MrZYX> sounds like that, yeah
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<canton7> >> ["string", []].sort
<eval-in> canton7 => /tmp/execpad-bc90f601e9c4/source-bc90f601e9c4:2:in `sort': comparison of String with Array failed (ArgumentError) ... (http://eval.in/17613)
<MrZYX> yup it does
<MrZYX> Flexa: line 38 adds a string to the array
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<Flexa> MrZYX: can i convert it to a symbol then or what?
<Spooner> Yeah, you maybe want a different array for the snapshot, otherwise it won't go into the table.
<Spooner> results << [volume.snapshot.description]
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<MrZYX> Flexa: if you want to sort it the values need to be comparable, you can't compare arrays and strings
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<Spooner> Flexa: PM sent
<Flexa> ok that makes sense
<canton7> or you have to provide your own comparison
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<newtonianb> hey when I use RakePipeline for sass how can i use imports in my sass? I have one main sass file called style.sass that i want Rake to compile then this includes a whole bunch of other ones Rake::Pipeline::Web::Filters::SassFilter
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<gabebug> is there a sane way to automatically set instance variables to a class without a constructor, e.g. "class Foo(@var1, @var2)" instead of having "def initialize(var1, var2); @var1, @var2 = var1, var2; end" ?
<canton7> in ruby 2.0
<gabebug> i've been taking that scala coursera course, and it's one of the things that has me jealous
<canton7> it's exactly that iirc
<gabebug> is there a name for that i can google ?
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<peter_tk> Hello. Can anyone help me with some good references for the semantics and idiom of Ruby's callcc? My book (Well-Grounded Rubyist) doesn't cover it.
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<Spooner> gabebug, You can use a Struct
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<gabebug> Spooner: huh, don't know why that never occurred to me. i think that would work.
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<gabebug> i've never use struct's with method definitions
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<mikepack> Is there a limit to the size of files you can download with open-uri, TCPSocket, etc?
<gabebug> i've normally thought of struct's more for removing data clumps. in this case, i've been trying out the SRP koolaid to a good degree of perceived benefit, and trying to cut down on the small but constant initializer overhead
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<arusso> is there a way to tell rubygems to not update gems to the next major version?
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<Sou|cutter> arusso: -v ~> 3.0 # maybe something like that?
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<wgosling> What is the correct way of doing "if matches a regex?" currently I am doing "if string =~ /^myregex/" but that can either return 0 or nil which both evaulate to false in an if statement.
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<canton7> 0 doesn't evaluate to false in ruby
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<canton7> the only falsy things are nil and false. that's it
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<arusso> Sou|cutter: hrm, that may work for my purposes. thanks
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<Sou|cutter> arusso: maybe wrap that in a string or something... I always use bundler :X
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<Sou|cutter> I have forgotten life without bundler (shameful, I know)
<arusso> I should look into it. So far the only thing I think we'll install is rvm and configure it in the multi user setup
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<wgosling> canton7: oh, seems you are right.
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<bwlang> ok… so i want to do something a little odd - i'd love some critical feedback… I have class (well) that has a bunch of methods (rails built them from the db columns). I want to make another class that has the same set of methods so that I can use it to update a bunch of wells at once (instead of updating them one by one). I think i can do this with some kind of class_eval foo. Is this reasonable. Did I miss some better way to do
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<ziggles> Any suggestions for platform independent way of playing a .wav?
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<csmrfx> browser?
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<csmrfx> vlc is pretty common
<ziggles> csmrfx: that's a good idea but i'm building a very simple console based pomodoro timer and i'd like to play a wav when a cycle finishes
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<csmrfx> java player?
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<csmrfx> ziggles: just pop up a browser window which loads a embedded youtube page
<ziggles> csmrfx: im sorry but i can't tell if you're being serious or jabbing at me?
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<csmrfx> that is literally the easiest way to do it
<csmrfx> thats all
<csmrfx> plus - you control both the embed, and the video content
<csmrfx> any second you want you can change it
<csmrfx> if its on the users compu, you cant
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<csmrfx> and, btw, hosting video content on youtube is free atm
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<ziggles> csmrfx: i see what you're saying but i was hoping for just playing like a "ding.wav" or something. nothing crazy. right now i'm using `print "\a"`
<ziggles> to play the system bell
<csmrfx> lol
<csmrfx> ok i see now
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<ziggles> :)
<csmrfx> I think youre going to have to choos your OSs
<peter_tk> Does anyone know any prominent Ruby applications or gems that use continuations?
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<csmrfx> does ruby have continuations?
<ziggles> csmrfx: yeah i was thinking that too :/ ... And sorta hoping there was a library that wraps that up
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<fdsdf> hi found this http://bit.ly/17Y47h2
<csmrfx> ziggles: trust me
<csmrfx> ziggles: make it an web app
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<csmrfx> lol
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<csmrfx> I see them here
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<csmrfx> so they must be supported in 2.0
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<csmrfx> this seems a little old but maybe its true http://gnuu.org/2009/03/21/demystifying-continuations-in-ruby/
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<peter_tk> But are there any apps that use them? Are they used in Rails, for example?
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<csmrfx> well, none that I could find
<csmrfx> but thats not much
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<csmrfx> maybe google "github callcc .rb" or something
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<peter_tk> Haskell has this awesome search engine called hoogle - you can search for a library function and you'll find all the usages of it in all the libraries in their equivalent of gems
<csmrfx> only one I found
<csmrfx> that was by search on github
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<peter_tk> Ok thanks everyone. I guess I can conclude it is not a critical feature for many users.
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<csmrfx> peter_tk: no
<csmrfx> you can not conclude that, based on what I said.
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<peter_tk> csmrfx: that's a big list of forks of RubySpec and other tests - none of those people are actually using it
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<csmrfx> oh, you looked through all the 21 hits already?
<csmrfx> uh, 21 000 hits
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<peter_tk> csmrfx: sarcasm is the lowest form of whit
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<csmrfx> peter_tk: heres what, if you wanna know
<csmrfx> peter_tk: post your q on the ruby mailing list or go to #ruby-lang
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<peter_tk> csmrfx: am I on the wrong IRC channel? what's the difference between #ruby and #ruby-lang?
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<joshu> I have a problem with merging and I have no idea way as the code is taken from an example app which is supposed to work…this is my test in IRB https://gist.github.com/anonymous/614fb1b0be05b7c76b9d#file-gistfile1-txt-L21
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<csmrfx> ziggles: I got an idea
<ziggles> yo
<csmrfx> ziggles: I believe someone named giles made some ruby sound generation library
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<csmrfx> bah, wait
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<ziggles> csmrfx: i think i might be on the same page. Are you referring to the app someone made that allows ruby to play music basically? Like you could programmatically play notes?
<csmrfx> thats not right
<csmrfx> its midi
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<ziggles> csmrfx: i could make my own little jingle lol
<csmrfx> hows that
<ziggles> csmrfx: btw... that video you linked me... giles looks like a 31337 hax0r. fast forward to 2013: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E99FnoYqoII
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<ziggles> looks like a complete bad ass. i need to shave my head.
<ziggles> csmrfx: checking the SO link. thank you
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<kandosan> guys im going crazy with this, http://pastebin.com/0vxEyYFt why can't i pass normal HTML in description' => 'html code here ? ',
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<kandosan> im trying to embed html5 video embed player but it just gives me errors :( i have no idea what is wrong
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<ziggles> csmrfx: damn. The wavefile gem linked in that SO post looks really promising! let me give it a shot.
<kandosan> here is the real example that gives me error http://pastebin.com/8UJ9vDT4
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<bean> kandosan, what sort of ip is 129.0.0.01
<bean> ...
<bean> are you wanting 127.0.0.1
<bean> ?
<kandosan> just some random ip for pastebin
<kandosan> i want to know why i cant post html http://pastebin.com/8UJ9vDT4
<bean> that's the third time in like... 10 minutes you've posted that lin
<bean> k
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<ziggles> kandosan: can you add the error to the pastebin? unless i missed it, i didn't see it there
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<bean> kandosan, what error does it give you.
<kandosan> i update with error
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<ziggles> csmrfx: thank you for finding that SO link but unfortunately wavefile and the other resources mentioned / linked are for actually reading/writing wav files... Not play back
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<ziggles> I just put a post on SO myself so hopefully someone out there will tell me im a noob and show me how it's ridiculously easy lol
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<kandosan> the only problem i have is on line, 'description' => "can't post html here " i need to post embed code with [ example ] id etc but it gives me that error in my last pastebin
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<ziggles> kandosan: when i run it from IRB it works fine for me
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<ziggles> kandosan: do you have # encoding: UTF-8 @ the top of your file? Maybe it's a character issue?
<ziggles> *character encoding
<bean> kandosan, why not use a gem for wordpress rpc?
<bean> i'd probably be easier...
<kandosan> im really not sure im new to ruby :( how would i set UTF-8
<Spooner> Yeah, works OK for me in pry (but on Linux, pry/irb defaults to utf8, but on Windows it defaults to some asciiish
<csmrfx> error *was* because of double quotes
<Spooner> kandosan, ziggles Just told you.
<csmrfx> which are not in the paste
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<kandosan> so i set this on top of script.rb # encoding: UTF-8
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<ziggles> kandosan: put this # encoding: UTF-8 as the first line of your file
<Spooner> csmrfx, Ah, forgetting to save the file before running it, you think?
<csmrfx> you can see the double quote in the error in the copypaste: ..." [video][track kind="captions" src="http://video-js.zencode...
<ziggles> kandosan: i don't know if that will fix it, but it's worth a shot.
<kandosan> ok ziggles im doing it
<bean> kandosan, also. [] is not html tags <> are
<Spooner> csmrfx, No, the double-quotes are inside a single-quoted string.
<ziggles> csmrfx: why wouldn't double quote be allowed?
<csmrfx> Spooner: see the error message
<csmrfx> Spooner: line 5
<kandosan> it still gives me that error in my last pastebin
<kandosan> :(
<csmrfx> in the pastie it reads 'description' => '[video][track kind="captions" src="http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-captions.vtt" srclang="en" label="English" default="true"][/video]'
<bean> kandosan, try putting \ before your "
<Spooner> Have you saved the file? Are you _sure_ you are running the file you are editing?
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<Spooner> You don't need to escape " when they are inside '
<csmrfx> but the error is saying its more like ..."[video][track
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<Spooner> csmrfx, Oh, yes, I was blind.
<bean> oh I know, but I figured it was worth a shot if it was complaining
<Spooner> Classic editing and running different files then, kandosan
<kandosan> i think the problem is this [ ]
<csmrfx> no
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<csmrfx> kandosan: in ruby u have objects
<bean> you*
<csmrfx> kandosan: some objects are strings
<csmrfx> kandosan: you can denote strings with certain delimiters
<csmrfx> kandosan: delimiters like ' and "
<csmrfx> >> "this is a string"
<eval-in> csmrfx => "this is a string" (http://eval.in/17627)
<kandosan> i have update it, http://pastebin.com/gVPwLbFr
<csmrfx> >> 'another'
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<eval-in> csmrfx => "another" (http://eval.in/17628)
<kandosan> i \ inside " "
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<csmrfx> kandosan: no
<Spooner> Ah, NOW you are pasting the same code as you are running.
<Spooner> The original paste was correct. This is wrong and is giving you the error.
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<Spooner> Original paste: '[video][track kind="captions" src="http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-captions.vtt" srclang="en" label="English" default="true"][/video]'
<kandosan> yesssssssss its working with \
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<bean> well dug
<kandosan> my last pastebin working
<bean> duh*
<Spooner> New paste: " [video][track kind=\"captions\" src=\"http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-captions.vtt\" srclang=\"en\" label=\"English\" default=\"true\"][/video]"
<csmrfx> kandosan: ok so you escaped the delimiter chars
<bean> maybe you should show the code you're actually using next time
<bean> ...
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<Spooner> The NEW paste is giving the erros.
<kandosan> yes now working :D
<bean> cuz you had ' before and then "
<kandosan> great
<kandosan> its working fine for me now
<bean> cool, not learn some IRC ettiquite and don't spam a pastebin link every minutes :)
<csmrfx> >> 'description' => " [video][track kind=\"captions\" src=\"http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-captions.vtt\" srclang=\"en\" label=\"English\" default=\"true\"][/video]"
<eval-in> csmrfx => /tmp/execpad-a61ec7e831f2/source-a61ec7e831f2:2: syntax error, unexpected =>, expecting keyword_end ... (http://eval.in/17629)
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<bean> every minute*
<csmrfx> >> { 'description' => " [video][track kind=\"captions\" src=\"http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-captions.vtt\" srclang=\"en\" label=\"English\" default=\"true\"][/video]" }
<eval-in> csmrfx => /tmp/execpad-0bbc38e9a1d2/source-0bbc38e9a1d2:2: syntax error, unexpected tSTRING_BEG, expecting keyword_do or '{' or '(' ... (http://eval.in/17630)
<csmrfx> wait what
<csmrfx> oh well Im done for tonight
<kandosan> thank you guys :) good night
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<stdim> Hi, I'm having troubles with Rake. I have this code: http://pastie.org/7721211 and it's not working for whatever reason. g++ never gets called to create a .o file. What am I doing wrong with Rake's rules?
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<ziggles> i use rvm and lately i've been testing a lot of gems. Basically i'll `gem install whatever-gem` try it out... and a lot of the time never use it again.
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<ziggles> Do you guys have any suggestions for this workflow? Does it make sense to use like gemsets or something that i can throw away later?
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<csmrfx> ziggles: remove them? rvm has gemsets
<ziggles> csmrfx: yeah... right now i manually remove them, but i was thinking maybe gemsets would be a way to contain them so i can go back without polluting my regular ruby environment
<ziggles> csmrfx: i'm not really experienced with rvm so i just wanted to throw it out there and see if anyone had a better idea
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<csmrfx> I think you can "contain" them in a rvm gemset, switch out of it to "good ones" and del the "dirty" set
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<csmrfx> hey sepp2k1 8)
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<mellow888> hi
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<bean> mellow888, hi
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