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<nofxx>
Software dev taxes here: If you write and sell a "custom computer program": 19.5%, for "service application": 6% . How much do you pay on yr country?
<ledestin>
nofxx what is that? sales tax?
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<nofxx>
ledestin, actually the 'bundle' the gov calls 'simplified taxing' that's the sum
<nofxx>
but yeah, for building and selling a software and a service respectivelly
<nofxx>
note: that's the floor, up to 27% for annual revenue of +3M
<nofxx>
we pay 1st world taxes for 5th world services here in Brasil =/
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<MackSim>
hello ruby world
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<MackSim>
i just started learning ruby. any good resources other than official docs?
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<womble>
MackSim: Chris Pine's "Learn to Program" used to be cited as a good starting point for people who hadn't programmed before; I don't know if it's been kept up to date with newer Rubies, but it'd be worth a look.
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<MackSim>
thank you :)
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<ledestin>
nofxx I just pay income tax. top rate is 33%
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<maloik>
not sure what it is over here, but I think it's 21% on sales but once you pay out your own wage they basically screw you over
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<maloik>
afaik... though I'm bad with administration so I could be dead wrong
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<ljarvis>
moin
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<CheeseFry>
So is there a "Hello World" to IRC #ruby-lang?
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<apeiros>
CheeseFry: I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean?
<maloik>
neither do I :-(
<CheeseFry>
:) First time writing code you make a "hello world" prompt, I'm new to IRC, what's usually the first post? "I'm new!?" "Hey don't hate on me!" ???
<ljarvis>
well you can't change it now
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<maloik>
yea you ruined it ;)
<CheeseFry>
Quite true ljarvis.
<maloik>
(hi)
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<CheeseFry>
What gets discussed on here usually?
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<ljarvis>
um, mysql, mongodb
<ljarvis>
the usual
<apeiros>
CheeseFry: wait for the daily rant by yorickpeterse
<apeiros>
CheeseFry: also welcome to #ruby-lang :)
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<apeiros>
we discuss whatever problems occur in our daily business (or leisure) with ruby
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<maloik>
yea rants are a big part of this channel
<maloik>
:D
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<maloik>
btw ljarvis thanks for that map.with_index line of code the other day... didn't occur to me at the time but in the past I've always been using each_with_index.map
<ljarvis>
maloik: np! :)
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<maloik>
up to 22 proposal submissions for arrrrcamp in like a week or a bit more
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<maloik>
without any promotion other than a tweet or two
<maloik>
gonna start by writing a blog
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<chris2>
any alternatives to rubydoc.info?
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<chris2>
or anyone know why rubydoc.info doesnt list "files" anymore?
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<jhass>
maybe you don't include them into the gem?
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<TvL2386>
hi guys, I use test unit to test my gem. If I need to ship some files that are used for input in my tests, do I create them in setup/teardown or can I ship them with my gem? Where would I put them in my gem?
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<yorickpeterse>
TvL2386: 1) you don't need to ship test data (or tests) in a Gem, they're not executed by default
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<yorickpeterse>
There used to be something like gemtesters.com which would do that, but it was shut down a few years back
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<yorickpeterse>
2) if the data is static, just include it in the repository
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<yorickpeterse>
That way you guarantee fixed test data
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<TvL2386>
yorickpeterse, thanks. What you say makes sense. I mixed up repo and gem here... I wonder if my test directory is actually put in the gem file that is build by 'rake build'.
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<yorickpeterse>
Depends on whether or not the Gemspec includes it
<headius>
either 2.1 or 2.2 added a way you can opt out of thread interrupts within a given region of code, but of course nobody's going to know to use it
<imperator>
headius, thought so, just wanted to make sure since ruby 2.x
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<imperator>
oh? interesting
<imperator>
i'd be curious to see how that works
<headius>
Thread.handle_interrupt(some params saying what you're willing to handle) do ....
<headius>
I pointed out that it doesn't fix ensures unless you put it around the entire begin/ensure body
<headius>
they should have added syntax to ensure like ensure :interrupt => false or something
<headius>
ensure interrupt:false
<imperator>
oh, that would have been nicer, yes
<imperator>
did you propose that?
<headius>
I just thought of it
<imperator>
i vote for that :)
<headius>
or ensure!
<imperator>
i think i favor the former, in case it makes sense to add any other options
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<headius>
yeah
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