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<indiekate>
I made a help request earlier but had to leave for a while; what's best practices for subfolder names for demos in a ruby app? /public/demos/{environment} or /public/{environment} or something else?
<indiekate>
This is my first ruby app and I want to provide demos on how to use the app in different environments; I'm not sure where people will be looking for demos and how they should be named.
<wallerdev>
doesnt matter where you pick
<wallerdev>
just talk about them in a README or something
<wallerdev>
personally i'd put it in a folder like /doc or just /demo
<wallerdev>
not sure the purpose of a /public folder
<indiekate>
Sorry - should have specified. It's access with AJAX calls from .js files, so for dev I had them in public
<wallerdev>
okay
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<indiekate>
I was going to create repeatable working examples because we're going to implement them for multiple customers in different configs
<wallerdev>
using /public/demos/whatever sounds fine
<indiekate>
It's basically a template for cloning the repo later
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<wallerdev>
just give people instructions on how to access in your readme
<indiekate>
OK cool. Thanks for the input.
<wallerdev>
and they will figure it out
<darix>
why put them into public space at all?
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<indiekate>
Because they're usable in websites
<indiekate>
I wasn't really sure where else to put them, honestly. I had a hard time tracking down best practices for app structure that wasn't rails
<darix>
indiekate: tbh following rails dir layout isnt really the worst :)
<indiekate>
It may have been the wrong place to put them. My structure is /bin, /lib, /public, /spec, /test, /views
<indiekate>
True story, darix. :) Wasn't sure if I should though, only because I wasn't sure if that would make people think it was a rails app and be unpleasantly surprised.
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<darix>
indiekate: I think the common standard nowadays is rack up
<darix>
the rest doesnt matter much
<indiekate>
Knowing absolutely 0 about rails, I wasn't sure what the right thing to do was
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<indiekate>
OK, darix, I'll look into that
<indiekate>
Thanks
<darix>
what did you write your app with?
<indiekate>
Atom text editor
<darix>
i cant think of any webframework which isnt using rack in the backend
<indiekate>
Oh
<indiekate>
Sinatra
<darix>
that is rack based too :p
<indiekate>
But built it by hand, using either tutorials or help from a coworker. I didn't use any rack commands
<darix>
then you can e.g. puma config.ru to launch your app or unicorn config.ru
<darix>
^^
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<indiekate>
I'm going to test that out
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<darix>
but you arent doing the mail sending within your sinatra app right? probably in some background processing thing like sidekiq.
<indiekate>
A lot of this is over my head but if I try it I might understand it. :)
<darix>
oh
<darix>
I am sure you will.
<indiekate>
It is very very tiny. I'm using the ponymail gem
<indiekate>
We're going to config an SMTP server, but my coworker's going to teach me when we do
<indiekate>
Next week I'm thinking
<indiekate>
But it basically uses Sinatra's post route to handle the contact form on static sites
<indiekate>
That's the cliff's notes
<darix>
<3 static site generators
<darix>
just working on using discourse as comment engine for a statically generated page.
<indiekate>
Yeah. I tested out Jekyll on my personal site and it kicks so much ass. I set up a git post-receive hook to push straight from dev and it was awesome. I used disqus for comments on that one
<indiekate>
This email app has to be a little more flexible because one of our implementations is Drupal, so that's crazy as it is
<darix>
i prefer selfhosting things
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<indiekate>
Me too, but we're trying to get some customers off the ground with stuff like Jekyll, so we don't have time to re-config our site from our existing Drupal setup. We're ending up using wget to generate the static files because the static module on Drupal suuuuuucks
<indiekate>
But I really loved being able to generate a Jekyll site in like 2 seconds. The CSS layout took the longest. :)
<darix>
you could just look into existing importers in jekyll
<darix>
and just dump the DB into yml files
<indiekate>
Import from Drupal? That'd be amazing.
<darix>
there is one for mephisto e.g.
<darix>
probably wordpress too
<indiekate>
I think we'll end up doing something like that after we get these peeps going.
<indiekate>
The Drupal module's working, I'm just trying to clean up documentation and app structure so it's universal.
<indiekate>
Thanks - sometimes I need to get out of my thought cycle
<bougyman>
bin/web.rb to whatever web app is in web/
<pipework>
If it's a larger project, I actually make a transports/ directory and then place all my different transport mechanism code stuff in subdirs for the appropriate mechanism.
<darix>
bougyman: stop coming up with yet another layout!
<bougyman>
darix: sorry, I love it.
<indiekate>
*lol* Naw, it's good. It's shaking me out of my "one true way to do it" mentality
<bougyman>
lib, web, spec, bin, and db are usually my top-levels
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<ruby-lang016>
Is it possible to make a website like addicting using rails ? I would also like to make games for it also. Would I have to use JavaScript or could I use rails ?
<ruby-lang016>
Addicting games *
<centrx>
The games themselves need something running on the client, like JavaScript or Flash
<centrx>
Yes you can make such a website in Rails
<ruby-lang016>
Could it support php and any languages for writing web games ?
<centrx>
Yes you can set it up that way
<centrx>
Any game you can write in PHP you can write in Rails
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<centrx>
But games that have 2D graphics or 3D graphics need something running in the client
<ruby-lang016>
Well I want to be able to support basically in game for my website
<pipework>
centrx: Not necessarily.
<pipework>
I mean, it's perfectly reasonable to make a game that renders 3d but never outputs it to a client.
<pipework>
Maybe it's a simulation game where you don't get to see the rendering but you interact with it somehow.
<centrx>
That's really courageous comment
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
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<jammanbo>
Is it possible to `def ~>(other); …; end`
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<yorickpeterse>
No, ~> is a syntax error
<jammanbo>
mmm, yeah just looking at the grammer now
<jammanbo>
grammar
<jammanbo>
ah well
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<dagda1>
is there a one liner to create a hash from another hash by selecting some values from the original
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<RobertBirnie>
is there a good way to find another processes pid without shelling out and parsing `ps aux`. it seems like Process class is just the current process
<karma_>
pidof
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<karma_>
if you wanted easier parse
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<jhass>
what are you needing the pid of though?
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<eam>
RobertBirnie: there's no cross platform library call for iterating pids
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<eam>
the only posix interface for that is specified via commands like ps
<eam>
if you're constrained to particular systems you can do it more efficiently
<eam>
(eg: linux only)
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<dpatel>
if i have a collection of 1000 documents and 5 threads grabbing items from the collection, is there any way to make sure that the threads each get a unique item?
<jhass>
push them into a queue and let the threads pop the items of
<dpatel>
ok, how would I accomplish that when each of the threads represents a different server?
<RobertBirnie>
eam thanks
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<jhass>
dpatel: I'm not sure I follow
<dpatel>
ok, lets say i have 5 servers each serving up a string from a collection
<jhass>
how do you share the collection?
<dpatel>
so every time a reqeust comes it, i grab the topmost string and return it
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<dpatel>
the collections a mongo db collection that all the servers are querying
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<jhass>
well, that's kind of an important detail
<jhass>
"detail" even
<eam>
dpatel: you use whatever locking primitives your datastore provides
<eam>
it's a mongodb question
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<dpatel>
ok, thanks
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<_1_>
hello
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<cpach>
_1_: hiya
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<_1_>
ways ur nationality
<cpach>
Swedish
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<_1_>
ah aim from phil
<_1_>
ur male?
<cpach>
_1_: haha, how so?
<apeiros>
_1_: this is not a flirting channel, you know?
<_1_>
no
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<cpach>
people are weird
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<apeiros>
cpach: not those people's fault as it seems
<apeiros>
crappy chat android app
<apeiros>
pondering to ban _1_* nicks preemptively.
<cpach>
apeiros: does the app have a list of default channels or something like that?
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<apeiros>
sounds like
<apeiros>
I haven't tried it myself
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<cpach>
sounds like a good idea to do the ban then. the people who use that app and also want to join this channel could always set their own nick.
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<jhass>
cpach: actually nope
<jhass>
that app prepends _1_ to the nick you choose
<jhass>
it's real crap
<cpach>
haha, that's odd :)
<cpach>
i'm tempted to try it out, but i have no android devices :p
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<cschneid>
anybody know if there's a gem out there which lets me optionally run a block in the middle of a pipeline. Similar in style to tap, except takes a Bool and a Block and either returns self or runs the block
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<cschneid>
jhass: cool. that's ... close :)
<cschneid>
I'll just monkey patch my `perhaps` function in, and call it good.
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<darix>
cschneid: gem install maybe?
<darix>
cschneid: "gem install maybe"?
<darix>
yorickpeterse just released that
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darix: that doesn't do what I want though - I have a thing, I want to optionally execute a block with that thing, similar to try, but either returning self (false) or result of block (true)
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