#ruby-lang on 2014-01-14 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-12-31 16:59 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.0-p0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org|| Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks

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01:52 <rationalrevolt> are operations like array append (as in arr << 10) threadsafe in jruby or should I be locking explicitly? I read that in MRI these are safe due to the GIL

01:52 <drbrain> rationalrevolt: in JRuby you must lock

01:53 <rationalrevolt> drbrain: thanks

01:53 <drbrain> rationalrevolt: if you're using arr as a queue you may want to use Queue

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05:19 <rationalrevolt> How do I find out if the output of my ruby program is being piped to another process? I was trying to use STDOUT.tty? but I that didn't seem to work

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06:15 <rahul_j> sreeix: Reetu's not replying

06:15 <rahul_j> i guess it's kinda late for her

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08:50 <maloik> Anyone recognize wtf this could be ? http://cl.ly/image/10170Q3S3E3P

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08:52 <whitequark> maloik: try "file" on it

08:52 <whitequark> maybe gzip without header? (zlib)

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09:17 <yorickpeterse> morning kids

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09:21 <gnufied> right ho

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09:21 <yorickpeterse> http://www.catlateraldamage.com/ this is amazing

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10:37 <yorickpeterse> select([:id, :key]).blablabla # => SQL error because it uses "SELECT key ...."

10:37 <yorickpeterse> fucking AR

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10:39 <yorickpeterse> https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/afd4a14332c49fa0e236e6904a5f7e09ce33c407/activerecord/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/quoting.rb#L87-L89

10:39 * yorickpeterse facedesk

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10:41 <yorickpeterse> hm, apparently it lives under the current connection

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10:54 <ljarvis> aamoin

10:54 <ljarvis> moin

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10:57 <andrewvos> postmodern: How do I get the latest rubies with ruby-install?

10:58 <andrewvos> postmodern: I thought it didn't require updating?

10:58 <yorickpeterse> andrewvos: you can install directly from URLs I believe

10:58 <ljarvis> andrewvos: it does

10:58 <ljarvis> andrewvos: ruby-install ruby stable or just use the latest url

10:58 <andrewvos> wattt

10:58 <andrewvos> ok ok

10:59 <andrewvos> thanks

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11:00 <andrewvos> debugging this issue with rails on heroku not booting cause it's timing out

11:00 <andrewvos> rails makes me so sad

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11:00 <postmodern> andrewvos, `ruby-install RUBY [VERSION]`

11:01 <andrewvos> postmodern: Thanks I got `ruby stable` going. Perhaps the docs should mention the "no updating" thing more?

11:01 <andrewvos> postmodern: Cause I was a bit confused. Might just be me though

11:01 <postmodern> andrewvos, it's in there twice

11:01 <andrewvos> heh

11:01 <postmodern> andrewvos, "allows installing arbitrary versions"

11:01 <andrewvos> fair enough

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11:02 <postmodern> andrewvos, also `ruby-install ruby` is the same as `ruby-install ruby stable`

11:02 <andrewvos> Ahh yes

11:02 <postmodern> andrewvos, stable just maps to the most recent version it knows of

11:02 <andrewvos> Ok I skimmed that part

11:03 <yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/mudanekuhi.rb there, that should do it

11:04 <yorickpeterse> a crim against OO

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11:07 <ljarvis> lul

11:08 <ljarvis> testing your gemfile

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11:09 <ljarvis> doesn't really help deps of deps

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11:09 <ljarvis> way too many libs use hashie

11:09 <yorickpeterse> Correct, but I don't want my own code to use it

11:09 <ljarvis> fair enough

11:09 <yorickpeterse> can't do anything about external deps in various cases

11:10 <yorickpeterse> "oh I don't like Hash, lets use Hashie::Mash because fuck you"

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11:10 <yorickpeterse> I've been systematically eradicating Hashie::Mash from our codebase

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11:12 <yorickpeterse> ag Hashie -G .rb --ignore=graveyard | wc -l # => 24

11:12 <yorickpeterse> :<

11:12 <yorickpeterse> not done yet apparently

11:13 <yorickpeterse> (yes I have a repo called "graveyard")

11:14 <gnufied> I need to check this thing. I know grape uses it, but beyond that I didn't had a reason to use/love/hate this thing!

11:14 <gnufied> hash extensions mmm

11:14 <yorickpeterse> Grape uses it

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11:14 <gnufied> yep. I know

11:14 <yorickpeterse> I dislike it because it is, as I tend to call it, a schizophrenic Hash (if I spelled that correctly)

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11:15 <yorickpeterse> you can use it as a Hash with symbols, a Hash with strings *and* as a Struct-like thing

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11:15 <yorickpeterse> The cases where it was used here was for stuff like

11:15 <yorickpeterse> Hashie::Mash.new(JSON(some_payload)).lol_single_field

11:15 <gnufied> looks like for someone for whom creating classes is too hard.

11:15 <yorickpeterse> basically

11:16 <gnufied> cool.

11:16 <yorickpeterse> I'm pretty religious about some of these patterns :P

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11:41 <manveru> keep up the good fight :D

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13:16 <yorickpeterse> in case it wasn't already clear: don't use Mongo's aggregation framework

13:16 <yorickpeterse> I'd rather eat XSLT

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13:17 <gnufied> do you shit XML if you eat XSLT?

13:17 <gnufied> kinda obvious, I feel sorry for myself

13:18 <yorickpeterse> haha

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14:04 <yorickpeterse> lawl, hit the AWS limit of the amount of autoscaling groups (50)

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14:21 <imperator> how about....don't use mongo

14:22 <yorickpeterse> great fucking idea, only about 3 years too late

14:23 <yorickpeterse> but yeah, can't wait to move away from it

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15:59 <imperator> wildly OT here, but does anyone know of software that will automatically transcribe a podcast?

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16:00 <apeiros> set up a speaker in front of a computer with dictation software? :)

16:00 <momomomomo> apeiros: that's upsetting

16:00 <momomomomo> haha

16:00 <imperator> heh, i thought there might be something more elegant

16:01 <momomomomo> imperator: depends what you want to do

16:01 <imperator> i may end up using the windows speech api

16:01 <momomomomo> if you want to detect people's voices and transcribe each specific person

16:01 <momomomomo> that might be more difficult than just getting all of the text

16:01 <imperator> i guess for now, just get all of the text

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16:02 <momomomomo> maybe check out http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/

16:02 <momomomomo> I'm not to keen in this area, but after a quick google, that came up

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16:04 <imperator> hmm

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18:49 <snapr> Hi, can anybody explain the use of "build" on the collection of a has_many relationship? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/115bf35188617748e85e

18:49 <snapr> * please

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18:51 <snapr> ouch wrong channel

18:52 <cout> zenspider: around?

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18:58 <imperator2> heya cout, how are you?

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23:42 <zenspider> cout: hey

23:42 <zenspider> damn this channel is dead

23:43 <zenspider> ruby is dead. racket and chicken scheme have 10x more irc activity, easily.

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