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<deryl> anyone on the ftp.ruby-lang.org management staff around? ftp.ruby-lang.org is down (resolvable IP is 221.186.184.68)
<deryl> dig says its carbon.ruby-lang.org
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<postmodern> deryl, was just about to say, it looks down
<postmodern> deryl, downforeveryoneorjustme.com confirms it
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<deryl> yeah, i also confirmed. we got reports of it from users in #rvm so i verified before i said anything. didn't want to misreport :)
<deryl> guys got enough stuff going on without tracking down a false report hehe
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<Fullmoon> Is there a way in ruby to call the current method without using the name of the method?
<Fullmoon> Like clojure's recur function
<banisterfiend> Fullmoon: Yeah
<banisterfiend> Fullmoon: send(__method__)
<Fullmoon> banisterfiend: Ah interesting, thanks.
<banisterfiend> Fullmoon: or, if you're using define_method then use redo
<Fullmoon> banisterfiend: Thanks for Pry
<banisterfiend> Fullmoon: np
<banisterfiend> Fullmoon: define_method(:hello) { puts "hi"; redo }
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<jds> Hi
<jds> How come Module.methods doesn't include 'include' ?
<Mon_Ouie> Because include is a private method
<jds> ahh
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<pbjorklund> Why does ",,1,2,3,,".split(/,/) => ["", "", "1", "2", "3"] and not => ["", "", "1". "2", "3", "", ""]?
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<rue> If the limit parameter is omitted, trailing null fields are suppressed.
<rue> pbjorklund: ^
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<banisterfiend> rue: hey, what games are you playing at the moment? recommend anything?
<rue> None
<apeiros_> Diablo3 & Pandoras Tower. I can only moderately recommend both.
<banisterfiend> rue: did u ever play braid?
<rue> No
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: not too impressed by d3?
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<apeiros_> banisterfiend: yes. it's below expectations
<apeiros_> and I usually try not to have too high expectations
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: interesting, whycome?
<apeiros_> that it is below expectations or that I try not having high expecations?
<apeiros_> *expectations
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<banisterfiend> .
<banisterfiend> dc
<banisterfiend> apeiros_: how did it let u down
<apeiros_> banisterfiend: e.g. still same issues with controls as in d2 (run & hit is both on the left mouse button - "I'm low on HP, RUUUN!" - "oh, where you clicked stands an enemy, I'll just attack him" - too bad you're a remote attacker, so you stand still and get killed instead of running…)
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<banisterfiend> apeiros_: ah ok
<apeiros_> also the skill system is boring
<rue> Diablo == boring
<apeiros_> I understand their base assumption (in d2, even given a lot of choices, people would really only use like a couple and people who didn't think about it ended up with broken characters)
<apeiros_> but I think their solution to the assumed problem is completely wrong (oh, lets dumb it down so even a 5yo can play it)
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<zzak> woot, lib/racc from 5.5% to 62.5%
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<apeiros_> documentation? tests? understanding it?
<rue> Q-factor?
<rue> Zetta-waves, that’s gotta be it
<zzak> miss
<zzak> doc coverage*
<zzak> still have no idea where racc patches go tho haha
<apeiros_> ^^
<apeiros_> good luck (seriously), and cool that you do it!
<zzak> thanks for the encouragement
<zzak> i will have to bug drbrain later
<rue> :+1:
<apeiros_> oh, damn, reminds me that I forgot my "shake a least one dev's hands and say 'thank you'" at euruko :-S
<rue> zzak: Does the racc hub have any merged commits?
* apeiros_ must do it at the party, I guess
<zzak> rue: hard to tell, there is a 1_4_stable branch
<zzak> that i think is forward
<zzak> for example
<banisterfiend> how do i force travis to rerun a test without commiting first?
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<Defusal> anyone played with MagLev yet?
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<kyrylo> banisterfiend, what's the point of that? Rerun a test just to ensure. that it's not passing?
<kyrylo> s/.//
<banisterfiend> kyrylo: no, it failed because of an error in travis not a failure in my test
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<banisterfiend> kyrylo: so the project is currently in a failure state (according to travis) which is potentially incorrect
<banisterfiend> i need to run again on a non-broken travis to know for sure
<banisterfiend> "Error: #<NativeException: org.virtualbox_4_1.VBoxException: The function "lockMachine" returned an error condition: "An unexpected process (PID=0x00003430) has tried to lock the machine 'travis-ruby-5'"
<kyrylo> Well, I have no idea. But: #travis
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<rindolf> Hi all.
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<rue> HI THERE.
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<andrewvos> .
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<rue> …
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<TTilus> that looks anxious
<TTilus> . . .
<TTilus> there, more spacious and relaxed
<rue> —.—
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<diegoviola> hi
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<diegoviola> say i unpack this awesome gem "ramaze-2012.04.14.gem" into my project and i want to include it directly, without installing the gem, how can i do that?
<diegoviola> ramaze gem just being an example there
<diegoviola> i want to do that with any gem
<workmad3> diegoviola: what's the difference between unpacking it into your project and installing it?
<diegoviola> no idea
<diegoviola> do i need to change the GEM_PATH and GEM_HOME or something
<workmad3> diegoviola: you could look at bundler
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<postmodern> has anyone gotten ruby 1.8.7 working on Fedora 17?
<postmodern> i was able to manually compile it
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<postmodern> but im getting segfaults from timeout.rb:60
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<Jake232> Why am I not allowed to do this? I can't see what I'm doing wrong.
<Jake232> def multi_get(*urls, options={})
<Jake232> syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting ')'
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<Boohbah> Jake232: because a variable length argument must be the last argument
<Jake232> Huh? I swear I've seen people use splats as the first arguement before
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<flori> Jake232: It works on 1.9, AFAIR
<Jake232> This is 1.9.3
<Jake232> Where I'm encountering the error
<Boohbah> In Ruby 1.8, this parameter must appear after all ordinary parameters and after all parameters with defaults specified. It should be the last parameter of the method, unless the method also has a parameter with an & prefix. In Ruby 1.9, a parameter with an * prefix must still appear after any parameters with defaults specified, but it may be followed by additional ordinary parameters.
<Boohbah> In Ruby 1.9, a parameter with an * prefix must still appear after any parameters with defaults specified
<Boohbah> Jake232: because you specified default options={}
<Jake232> ahhh damnit.
<flori> Jake232: Well, you can extract the last arg, if it's a Hash in this case
<Jake232> I guess I'll just make it so you have to pass an array
<Jake232> It's not a big deal
<Jake232> Just figured a splat would also be nice.
<Boohbah> or you could do
<Boohbah> def multi_get(options={}, *urls)
<Jake232> Doesn't really make sense passing the urls after though
<Jake232> counter-intuative
<Boohbah> whatever works :)
<Jake232> I wonder why args with defaults have to go first though
<Boohbah> maybe it confuses the parser? just guessing
<Jake232> Maybe so, anyway, thanks. I'll just go with passing an array.
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<hagabaka> Jake232: because if you do multi_get(foo, bar), should ruby assign urls with [foo, bar], or urls with foo and options with bar?
<Jake232> hagabaka: urls with foo and options with bar, the last arguement should be options.
<Jake232> always.
<Jake232> Just like func(options, *args), the first arguement would *always* be options
<hagabaka> then why does it need a default value?
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<andrewvos> Seems VirginMedia is blocking imgur.com
<andrewvos> I switched to google dns and I can see it again
<Boohbah> andrewvos: seems they also block the pirate bay
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<andrewvos> They also gave me a router that has WPS turned on, but no way to disable it.
<andrewvos> Oh and my internet is slow a fuck.
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<samuelkadolph> Woo WPS: the colossal failure with a massive security hole.
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