#ruby-core on 2016-05-26 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-07-17 22:52 closer changed the topic of #ruby-core to: check the latest release candidate for 1.9.1 release ftp.ruby-lang.org:/home/yugui/ruby-1.9.1-r26021+1.tar.bz2

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00:45 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43094] duerst:r55168 (trunk): * test/ruby/enc/test_case_comprehensive.rb: Add set of comprehensive - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43094

00:46 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43095] svn:r55169 (trunk): * remove trailing spaces. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43095

00:46 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43096] svn:r55170 (trunk): * properties. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43096

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00:52 <travis-ci> The build passed. by @svn: See https://travis-ci.org/ruby/ruby/builds/132997914

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01:30 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43097] nobu:r55171 (trunk): ruby.h: fix clang warnings - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43097

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05:11 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43098] nobu:r55172 (trunk): revert r55171 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43098

05:14 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43099] nobu:r55173 (trunk): ruby.h: count and verify - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43099

05:16 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43100] nobu:r55174 (trunk): ruby.h: suppress warnings - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43100

05:25 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43101] rhe:r55175 (trunk): openssl: avoid NULL dereference in {DH, DSA, RSA}_size() - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43101

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14:31 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] How to deal with unexpected values? Should I put in a guard or use exceptions? Suggestions...

14:32 <zzak> [philip, irc.freenode.net] Expect them and you not be disappointed...

14:33 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] Very zen :D

14:33 <zzak> [Vladimir Karmishin, irc.freenode.net] wrote 3 line according habitullence question, but phutchins answered with 8 words

14:33 <zzak> [philip, irc.freenode.net] :)

14:34 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] I might need the eight lines though, wisdom that is beyond my grasp

14:34 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] :P

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14:35 <zzak> [shevy, irc.freenode.net] it is either beer - or wisdom

14:35 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] lol

14:35 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] from great beer, comes great wisdom

14:35 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] and from great wisdom, comes great beer

14:36 <zzak> [Vladimir Karmishin, irc.freenode.net] exceptions are for general stuff, like user can't log in, in case of DB connection failure, for example. Guards are for local stuff, like dude forgot @ from his/her email address

14:36 <zzak> [Vladimir Karmishin, irc.freenode.net] IMHO, of course

14:36 <zzak> [shevy, irc.freenode.net] habitullence so true

14:40 <zzak> [jokke, irc.freenode.net] hello, i assume someone here uses mac os. could that someone run following command for me and paste the output? openssl enc -h 2>&1 | grep '\-gcm'

14:42 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] Vlat, I see what you're getting at.. I guess it comes down simply to what you consider an exception and where it can be dealt with. If you can deal with it locally, then do so, otherwise you need to throw it up the chain.

14:43 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] Sounds like a sensible approach

14:45 <zzak> [Vladimir Karmishin, irc.freenode.net] habitullence: exception is something big,terrible and loud. like a whole application crash. :) in my own way of thinking.

14:47 <zzak> [Rick Jones, irc.freenode.net] Vlat: sounds right, thanks

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15:39 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43102] svn:r55177 (trunk): * 2016-05-27 - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43102

15:39 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43103] nobu:r55176 (trunk): ruby.h: fix for old clang - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43103

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16:17 <zzak> [Bradley Schaefer, irc.freenode.net] in ruby 2.2 I have a `define_method(:foo) { super(args) }` sort of thing, and it works great. In 2.3 I get "super called outside of method" errors

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16:18 <zzak> [Bradley Schaefer, irc.freenode.net] Do I have to fall back to the old alias_method_chain style of calling super there?

16:19 <zzak> [Jonne Haß, irc.freenode.net] there's http://devdocs.io/ruby~2.3/method#method-i-super_method now

16:19 <zzak> [Jonne Haß, irc.freenode.net] method(__method__).super_method.call(args) is worth a shot

16:19 <zzak> [Jonne Haß, irc.freenode.net] but weird that you get them

16:20 <zzak> [Bradley Schaefer, irc.freenode.net] let me get a minimal reproduction case, just a sec

16:20 <zzak> [Jonne Haß, irc.freenode.net] >> class Foo; def foo; 1; end; end; class Bar < Foo; define_method(:foo) { super() }; end; Bar.new.foo

16:20 <zzak> [Butler IRC Bot, Version 0.1.0, irc.freenode.net] jhass: # => 1 (https://eval.in/577773)

16:20 <zzak> [Jonne Haß, irc.freenode.net] mine doesn't reproduce at least

16:24 <zzak> [Bradley Schaefer, irc.freenode.net] yeah

16:26 <zzak> [Shannon, irc.freenode.net] works on my machine

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16:51 <znz_jp> biff: [ruby-changes:43104] naruse:r55178 (trunk): * symbol.c (is_identchar): use ISDIGIT instead of rb_enc_isalnum. - http://mla.n-z.jp/?ruby-changes=43104

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