00:52 <DocScrutinizer05> and what's spamprobe now?

00:52 <DocScrutinizer05> can't believe there's an alternative to spam assassin I never heard of

01:05 <DocScrutinizer05> anyway my SA plus a half a dozen manual regex etc filters work conventiently exact and reliable. One SPAM slips through every few days, and every few months I need to dig up a false positive from SPAM folder

04:20 <kristianpaul> oh.

08:31 <viric> do you have much spam?

08:33 <wpwrak> maybe about 50% of the mails i receive get classified as spam

08:33 <viric> auhm. I receive much less.

08:33 <viric> And most is in chinese.

08:34 <viric> so a manual discard is quite easy, I find.

08:36 <wpwrak> and of the mails i receive, i read maybe 10% (some is mailing lists that i only peek at occasionally), so ...

08:38 <wpwrak> (low spam rate) then you're hiding your address ?

08:39 <whitequark> wpwrak: /reboot/ to get rid of a futex?

08:39 <whitequark> can't you just kill the process? futexes aren't persistent

08:41 <viric> wpwrak: I don't hide it much

08:41 <viric> wpwrak: I use it in mailing lists for example

08:41 <wpwrak> whitequark: just followed what i found on stackexchange regarding that problem. and i did of course try lighter means first ...

08:41 <viric> when I publish my address I use to write things like "<viricxa@viricxa.name> (remove all 'xa'! It's an antispam trick!)"

08:42 <viric> in web pages.

08:42 <whitequark> viric: that's extremely annoying

08:42 <viric> aha. ;)

08:42 <whitequark> i just elect not to email such people

08:42 <viric> I never received a letter from you.

08:43 <wpwrak> qed :)

08:43 <viric> :)

08:43 <viric> the filter is effective

08:43 <wpwrak> and annoying

08:43 <viric> I never received a complain from someone that wanted to write me.

08:44 <whitequark> especially since even a trivial spamassassin setup has a failure rate of maybe one spam email in inbox in a week

08:44 <whitequark> spam is a solved problem

08:45 <viric> maybe one day I'll change my opinion. I like my current approach.

08:45 <whitequark> (failure rate) on an address i've been using since 2008 and never ever taking any steps to 'protect' it

08:47 <wpwrak> viric: which leaves ... 1) those who see the nonsense and decide to not mail you, let's call them the whitequarks. 2) those who follow your edits, think you're an annoying prick, but decide not to waste even more time by arguing with you, 3) those who don't mind, 4) those who hate it and who voice their discomfort, but you didn't recognize their complaint or forgot about it, 5) those who complain and whom you remember.

08:47 <wpwrak> that the set 5) seems to be empty says relatively little about the size of the other sets :)

09:57 <DocScrutinizer05> it fails with newsletters etc