cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<tos9> cfbolz: bleh I was tempted enough to try it anyhow -- it didn't work immediately for me, complains it can't find the symbol _Unwind_Backtrace which google I think suggests means it can't find libc++ possibly
<tos9> but will have to try it with a clearer head
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<cfbolz> tos9: seems you need a newer android
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<cfbolz> I somewhat randomly felt like writing a blog post, if somebody wants to give the draft a read: https://github.com/pypy/pypy.org/pull/22/files
<simpson> cfbolz: Excellent blog post, and it's motivating me to add DOT support to the Monte-in-Monte compiler. Also I think I'm going to try to add dotviewer to nixpkgs as its own application.
<cfbolz> simpson: cool, please do. I think it works on python3 too nowadays? if not or it bitrotted, we're happy to fix that
<simpson> That Twitter thread is fascinating. Any idea what these `isvg` and `idot` tools are?
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<cfbolz> simpson: nope 😅
<cfbolz> simpson: I think she has a special terminal?: https://twitter.com/thingskatedid/status/1316074032379248640
<simpson> Ah, kitty plus many tweaks to fake transparency.
<cfbolz> it's neat, but ultimately I like dotviewer more
<simpson> dotviewer's got lots of nifty features. The pan and zoom alone are better than in Firefox.
<cfbolz> it's a bit clunky too in some ways
<simpson> I had built a terminal tool like that to do things like ad-hoc Prometheus queries, but I found better options. These days I use feedgnuplot; it's easy to leave open in a tab.
<cfbolz> cool
<cfbolz> I still want to do more with the link support that terminals have nowadays
<cfbolz> to finally get the cool linking features that arigato hat since 20 years :-P
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<cfbolz> simpson: anyway, thanks for the feedback, I clicked merge
<cfbolz> Should appear soon
<simpson> No worries. Thanks for your hard work.
<cfbolz> Cheers
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/217 [nulano: test branch, winreg-audithooks]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/284 [nulano: test branch, winreg-audithooks]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/217 [nulano: test branch, winreg-audithooks]