08:43 <krono> Oh dear, I finally wanted to upgrade my pypy on my Mac, but the homebrew formular points to bitbucket donwload links

08:43 <krono> and these 403

09:14 <mattip> https://downloads.python.org/pypy/ (note the slash on the end)

09:14 <mattip> I guess that means all the links on pypy.org/download are broken too

10:50 <krono> mattip: yea.

10:51 <krono> But essentially, the homebrew formuli have to be changed: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/master/Formula/pypy.rb

11:53 <mattip> krono: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/59878

11:53 <krono> mattip: \o/ yay

15:11 <jthistle> Hello! I've been looking for a way to compile to a standalone executable with PyPy. The closest I've come is including the whole of PyPy with my programme and running it using that, but it's not really the same. I'm really looking for something like pyinstaller. Does anyone have any suggestions, or is this wishful thinking?

15:12 <simpson> "standalone" is relative; something like https://github.com/matthewbauer/nix-bundle, which is built upon https://github.com/solidsnack/arx, would work for me but maybe not for you. Do you need Windows support? That's probably what will guide/limit your search.

15:59 <jthistle> simpson: sorry for the slow response. I would very much like to support Windows, Mac and Linux, but Linux only is better than nothing.

16:01 <simpson> No worries. The folks with the good answers are in EU timezones, so you'll have to wait a while for them.

16:04 <mattip> I think you are looking for nuitka

16:07 <jthistle> mattip: I have tried using nuitka, with success. I was going to say it didn't provide the speedup that I was looking for, but I've just realised that I was being dumb and compiled a module which I then ran with python instead of pypy, oops.

16:07 <jthistle> But can nuitka compile to standalone using pypy?

16:36 <mattip> no

17:13 <mattip> well, I don't know. I was answering a question you didn't ask but that I heard:

17:14 <mattip> can nuitka use pypy to get a compiled C program with a JIT

17:17 <jthistle> yeah, that was the question I meant, I think

20:32 <squeaky_pl> I didn't realize that ending mercurial support in bitbucket means that they will also remove downloads section. I have a ticket about older Portable PyPy versions not being available: https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy/issues/99 also pyenv has those links for older versions https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv/search?q=squeaky%2Fportable-pypy&unscoped_q=squeaky%2Fportable-pypy

20:33 <squeaky_pl> Not sure if those can be recovered or people should just upgrade their systems (which I'm sure they don't want to do).

20:36 <krono> squeaky_pl: homebrew has the same problem: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/59878

20:36 <krono> it's a shame on bitbucket's part

20:48 <squeaky_pl> It seems that you can get those downloads using wayback machine, the S3 urls are still working.

20:56 <mattip> according to https://octobus.net/blog/2020-08-05-bitbucket-public-archive.html

20:58 <squeaky_pl> Thank you mattip, they are indeed there: https://bitbucket-archive.softwareheritage.org/static/14/140b7b14-aa94-424e-b191-9cd3438381f7/attachments/

20:58 <mattip> there is an archive at https://bitbucket-archive.softwareheritage.org/

20:59 <mattip> hehe, I am a bit slow

21:02 <mattip> https://bitbucket-archive.softwareheritage.org/projects/sq/squeaky/portable-pypy.html

21:03 <mattip> you can request the repo be hosted under pypy if you want

21:04 <mattip> at https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy

21:05 <squeaky_pl> mattip, I will just update links in GitHub, people should not be using this anymore since upstream is better.

21:12 <mattip> "better" - we couldn't have done it without you showing us how

22:00 <mattip> we did the first 90% and had https://downloads.python.org/pypy/ all ready,

22:00 <mattip> but then dropped the ball about switching everywhere away from bitbucket in July

22:00 <mattip> :(

22:02 <mattip> I just opened PRs in multibuild and conda-forge, but the multibuild one will take time to percolate through the scientific python stack

22:03 <squeaky_pl> I've seen somebody opened a PR to pyenv as well.

22:13 <mattip> azure pipeline images use the new URL, and travis uses pyenv