arigato changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | mac OS and Fedora are not Windows
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<arigato> cfbolz: I think it's a bug that was introduced in the optresult-unroll branch (no blame)
<arigato> after the preamble, the loop is optimized by having as "inputargs" some boxes that are themselves ResOps with an earlier operation
<arigato> this fact should never be used---the loop must not be optimized by using this info, but it sometimes is
<arigato> see "def is_inputarg(" in optimizeopt/optimizer.py
<arigato> which apparently caused some optimizations to be completely disabled because they gave nonsense
<arigato> but some others like the one in issue2904 are still there, and can still give similar nonsense
<arigato> we should probably figure out a systematic way to optimize the loop with fresh arguments
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<cfbolz> arigato: I am confused: I was under the impression that at the end of the preamble we do some kind of "export state" and then "import state", to make sure that this kind of thing doesn't happen. and all extra operations that are needed in the loop body should go into the short preamble
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<cfbolz> pff
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-32/builds/98 [Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick: force build]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-64/builds/122 [Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick: force build]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-32/builds/98 [Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick: force build]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-64/builds/122 [Carl Friedrich Bolz-Tereick: force build]
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<cfbolz> ah, seems we really need to update all builder's pythons to 2.7.9 to be able to still pull?
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<mattip> cfbolz: which builders need to update hg ?
<cfbolz> mattip: I just noticed the ones on beecher failing
<cfbolz> Bencher
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<mattip> bencher32 is actually a chroot on buildbot.pypy.org
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* mattip updating it to xenial
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<mattip> bencher32 should work now
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7113 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-32/builds/100 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<cfbolz> mattip: thanks
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<mattip> it seems I can not sudo into the bencher4 machine anymore, someone else will have to upgrade it
<mattip> arigato, fijal ^^^
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<arigato> cfbolz: export/import state: yes, except we're missing this point: we're sending to the optimizer the actual loop with input args that are not InputArgs, but that are ResOps from earlier
<cfbolz> right
<arigato> we should completely stop doing that
<cfbolz> and just invent inputargs
<arigato> we even *have* inputargs, we're just setting up the _forwarded link the wrong way for that
<arigato> of course just reversing the link explodes, I already tried naively
<cfbolz> right
<cfbolz> and then we are suddenly in the usual mess that is unroll
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<arigato> yup
<cfbolz> :-(
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/rpython-linux-x86-32/builds/100 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
* arigato updates python2 on bencher4
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