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<amaury_> I have trouble accessing https://bitbucket.org/
<amaury_> "NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID"
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<fijal> amaury__: works for me?
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<kenaan> amauryfa default 912f3925af42 /rpython/rlib/unicodedata/: Add Unicode database 9.0.0
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<arigato> hi all
<arigato> I have a list of topics for the Leysin sprint, please complain or add some:
<arigato> * General 3.5 and 3.6 improvements
<arigato> * Focus on getting even more of the scientific stack working
<arigato> * Improvements of cpyext performance
<arigato> * JIT topics: guard-compatible, and the subsequent research project to save and reuse traces across processes
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<kenaan> mattip extradoc b851faa11400 /planning/sprint-leysin-2018-notes.rst: add topics for sprint (from IRC and more)
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<mattip> if we could get some webdevs to come to the sprint we could do speed.pypy.org and www.pypy.org improvement
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<arigato> right
<mattip> anything on that list seems inapproriate?
<mattip> s/that list/extradoc 11b851faa11400/
<arigato> finish unicode-uint8 => unicode-utf8
<arigato> but otherwise, looks good
<arigato> sorry about missing or forgetting that there was already a file
<fijal> arigato: when again is the Leysin sprint?
<arigato> 17-24 March
<fijal> I might not be able to make it
<fijal> or not the whole sprint or something
<fijal> (I think I have to fly on the 20th to SA)
<fijal> maybe I'll come few days earlier and leave early too or something
<arigato> that would work for me
* arigato doesn't get why Windows is still now stuck with \r\n as the normal end-of-lines in "text" mode
<kenaan> mattip extradoc a9aa68e8a62c /planning/sprint-leysin-2018-notes.rst: fix and add one more
<mattip> arigato: if you add a extradoc/sprintinfo/leysin-winter-2018/people.txt I will add my travel info
<arigato> mattip: ok
<kenaan> arigo extradoc 0ffe7b9497c5 /sprintinfo/leysin-winter-2018/people.txt: Start the people.txt list
<arigato> I'll write the blog post Monday to leave people time for reactions to the topics list
<mattip> +1
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<kenaan> mattip extradoc 7786f522e3fe /sprintinfo/leysin-winter-2018/people.txt: add my dates
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<mattip> found the next win32 issue on py3-winreg branch - raiseWindowError cannot decode a message when the user interface is non-ascii
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<kenaan> mattip py3-winreg 4099cdb5fe33 /pypy/module/_winreg/interp_winreg.py: fix FormatError -> FormatErrorW
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/3626 [mattip: force build, py3-winreg]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/3626 [mattip: force build, py3-winreg]
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<abrown> Anyone available for an RPython question?
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<simpson> Sure. FWIW people are generally either on USA time or West/Central Europe time.
<abrown> yeah, it seems I always catch you...
<simpson> Well, I'm on the other side of the Portland metro area, not the other side of the Atlantic.
<abrown> (note to self: figure out how to hide my hostname in this IRC thing)
<abrown> the question: if I have a class `X` with a field `a` that contains a list, do `_immutable_ = True` and `_immutable_fields = ["a[*]"]` do the same thing?
<abrown> correction: _immutable_fields_
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<simpson> (You can get an unaffiliated cloak from Freenode staff; it's a routine and easy thing and there's instructions on the website IIRC.)
<simpson> You'd have to read the annotator to be sure (and that's how I know this) but the former implies only `_immutable_fields_ = "a",`
<simpson> So if you want "a[*]" you have to explicitly request it.