<companion_cube>
alternative is: extend MList to provide a non-buffering alternative
<companion_cube>
if you have time, please contribute CCLazyList
<companion_cube>
it's a bit wasteful not to use the lazy list directly, because clone is a no-op on it
<whitequark>
hmmmm
<Drup>
(I advise you to use unit -> lazy_list instead of Lazy.t)
<whitequark>
Drup: and do mutation inside? meh
<companion_cube>
Drup: no, the point here is caching
<Drup>
oh
<whitequark>
companion_cube: then it would not be interchangeable with GenClone.t
<Drup>
nevermind :>
<Drup>
I though it was only for the "do not readline just yet"
<whitequark>
it is
<companion_cube>
whitequark: what if there was a non-buffering GenMList.of_gen_lazy_no_cache ?
<whitequark>
companion_cube: it'll work for me
<Drup>
(interface wise, an optional argument ~caching true by default would be more elegant :D)
<whitequark>
agree
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<Drup>
(or better, give the size of the cache length)
<Drup>
I remember doing a patch for that
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<companion_cube>
Drup: yes
<companion_cube>
whitequark: pushed it
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<whitequark>
excellent, it works well
<companion_cube>
\o/
<companion_cube>
performance is ok
<companion_cube>
(it's slightly less good than a list, but well)
<companion_cube>
sounds like I'll have to release Gen soon
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<companion_cube>
good night anyway
<whitequark>
nigght
<whitequark>
*night
<companion_cube>
whitequark: I'll wait for your feedback on the new modules
<Drup>
companion_cube: (interface wise, I feel like those should be submodules, but ... :p)
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<Drup>
whitequark: I just went into wikidoc to fix it for 4.02
<Drup>
it was terrible
<Drup>
the worst part is that, I had the ocamldoc right next to it because it's wikidoc is basically a weird frankenstein clone of wikidoc
<Drup>
of ocamldoc*
<Drup>
and ... ocamldoc was as terrible
<Drup>
T__T
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<whitequark>
your life is suffering. accept it and embrace it
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<Drup>
whitequark: please update your branch no-camlp4 for lwt
<Drup>
I changed the build bot to build on 4.02, I want to test that everything is fine with yours too
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<thetabyte>
I'm baffled why when Rubet.lookup_meth is called and throws a Not_found, the Not_found does not get caught by this try statement: http://pastebin.com/U4cdYcPP please help?
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<Drup>
what is rubet ?
<thetabyte>
It's another file with functions in it, but that shouldn't matter, no? assuming that function throws Not_found (which it does) shouldn't it be caught in the try/with?
<Drup>
can you show it ?
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<kido1412>
I'm reading a blog about a web framework written in OCaml:http://rgrinberg.com/blog/2014/04/04/introducing-opium/, but I don't know what's the symbol " |>" short for?
<rgrinberg>
x |> f is equivalent to f x
<kido1412>
I kown >>= is bind, >>| is map, >>> is upon. But I've never seen >| before
<thetabyte>
Drup: honestly, nope. it's very, very large in all, and also school code i shouldn't be sharing.
<thetabyte>
i just can't catch an exception, and i can't seem to figure out why.
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<thetabyte>
(i've actually never used the try/with feature of ocaml before)
<kido1412>
@rginberg, how about let () = app |> App.command |> Command.run?
<struktured>
thetabyte: maybe it's a different "Not_found" than the one you are attempting to catch?
<Drup>
thetabyte: my guesses are "it uses lwt" or "the exception is redefined"
<struktured>
Drup: agreed
<rgrinberg>
kido1412: let () = Command.run (App.command app)
<kido1412>
Oh, I see, thank you. Is that a syntactic sugar?
<Drup>
you can say that
<Drup>
it doesn't really require special support though, you could define it yourself
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<Drup>
(you would do "let (|>) x f = f x")
<rgrinberg>
kido1412: as Drup said, it's just a function like any other
<kido1412>
thanks all:)
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<rgrinberg>
companion_cube: how do you manage writing gen's by hand?
<rgrinberg>
just tried to decipher split_full_gen enough to implement ?max but failed :/
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<ggole>
def`: ping
<def`>
ggole: pong
<ggole>
The context sensitivity PR has been sitting there for a while
<ggole>
What should I do with it?
<def`>
wait :)
<ggole>
Hmm, OK
<ggole>
I'm happy if it's waiting on some improvements, I just got the impression that it fell between the cracks a bit.
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<companion_cube>
rgrinberg: I like thinking with state machines :)
<companion_cube>
otoh ?max isn't that easy, because of edge (literally) cases
<rgrinberg>
companion_cube: max should only count `Text occurences
<rgrinberg>
not delimiters
<rgrinberg>
i think that makes it much simpler
<rgrinberg>
companion_cube: i do not have mental fortitude to think in state machines like that :D
<companion_cube>
rgrinberg: it's a game! :)
<companion_cube>
like thinking in continuations
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<rgrinberg>
i wonder if the code would look like with explicit yields
<rgrinberg>
e.g. like in python
<rgrinberg>
or with delimcc
<companion_cube>
it would be much simpler
<companion_cube>
but probably slower
<companion_cube>
(also, delimcc is far more difficult to understand than explicit state management)
<companion_cube>
(at least to me)
<companion_cube>
rgrinberg: if you want to discuss the code of split_full_gen, I'd be happy to help you
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<rgrinberg>
companion_cube: thanks. i'll give it a try tomorrow
<rgrinberg>
bed time now
<rgrinberg>
:D
<companion_cube>
rgrinberg: if you want fun, look in Gen.merge ;)
<companion_cube>
good night then
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<chris2>
anyone using ocaml 4.02.1 from arch linux with core from opam?
<companion_cube>
almost, I just don't use core, sorry
<chris2>
installing core fails here because of some camlp4 stuff
<companion_cube>
do you use the "system" switch?
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<chris2>
i just typed opam install core :)
<chris2>
and it uses the +system packages afaics
<companion_cube>
yeah, I think I met this problem with camlp4
<companion_cube>
it's a bit bothersome, but you may try to "opam switch 4.02.1" instead (thus ignoring camlp4+system totally)
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* ggole
wonders why lazy_t has the tail
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* whitequark
has just used Printexc.exn_slot_name to catch an unexported exception
<whitequark>
it feels dirty, but less dirty than the previous thing I did, which is to use Trace.set_code_pointer to change behavior of an stdlib function
<MercurialAlchemi>
it's not possible to catch it with a just a blanket catch block?
<flux>
well, it's pretty bad form to leak unexported exceptions anyway, isn't it?
<flux>
it's a shame there is no modern project like ocamlexc :/
<whitequark>
flux: but it can be raised.
<whitequark>
although.
<whitequark>
actually no, it can't. *erases code*
<Drup>
"e -> ... ; raise e" ?
<whitequark>
Drup: no, I mean it can't escape the function which I thought it could
<Drup>
( whitequark: I must say, I'm wondering what the hell you are doing)
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<whitequark>
~magic~
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<ggole>
ಠ_ಠ
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* whitequark
does some more Obj.magic
<whitequark>
this time exchanging exception ids with each other
<flux>
"Obj.magic is like violence; if it doesn't solve your problem, you are not using it enough."
<whitequark>
yes!
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<ousado>
hehe
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<whitequark>
"let transmogrify_exn"
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<seangrove>
Hey all, I'm wondering what's wrote with this syntax:
<seangrove>
let left = (char '[') in let right = (char ']') in parse_string (left >> Tokens.float << right) "[10092.10]" ();;
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<seangrove>
It seems like I can't really use << inline like that (in utop at least)
<whitequark>
camlp4.
<whitequark>
don't load it.
<seangrove>
Interesting - how does that change the syntax?
<whitequark>
the whole point of camlp4 is changing the syntax...
<seangrove>
Yeah, I know, I'm just curious if it's user-extended, or if it's a standard syntax change, and if it's standard, what the changes are
<whitequark>
it's quasiquotations for ocaml source
<whitequark>
well, the << bit
<seangrove>
Is there a way to tell if it's loaded? I took it out from my .ocamlinit to test, but whenever I hit enter on that line, nothing happens
<whitequark>
e.g. Topfind.predicates;;
<seangrove>
Ah, very nice, thank you
<whitequark>
hey companion_cube, can you release gen?
<seangrove>
Yeah, looks like camlp40 is in there
<whitequark>
a bunch of things depends on it. core, sexplib
<seangrove>
Is there a way to unload camlp4o once it's in Topfind.predicates?
<whitequark>
no
<seangrove>
Alright, I guess I'll just stop there then, and not use mparser in utop
<seangrove>
Thank you for the guidance!
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<companion_cube>
whitequark: ok
<companion_cube>
are you ok with the interface?
<whitequark>
yes, I've migrated everything to it
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<hugomg>
is there a function in the standard library / Core for deleting a non-empty directory?
<hugomg>
Unix.rmdir is only for empty directories so Im getting the impression that I will need to delete things recursively by hand.
<whitequark>
yes
<whitequark>
not sure about Core, but there is none in stdlib
<companion_cube>
I never suggested using a local openssl copy, actually
<companion_cube>
i'd rather have opam install ocaml stuff, and rely on the distro for the rest
<companion_cube>
including ocamlfind
<adrien>
let's assume that it would limit code execution to the containers (i.e. that containers, well, contain; that's completely false nowadays)
<adrien>
that still doesn't protect the users of whatever is inside
<adrien>
if your web browser is owned, no matter if it can or cannot run abritrary code on your machine with your user rights if it can snoop on your passwords and credit card number
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<rgrinberg>
can
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<rgrinberg>
so in 0install the responsibility is on a package to provide the most up to date deps?
<companion_cube>
who's talking about containers, btw?
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<adrien>
Lennart Poettering
<companion_cube>
okkkkkkkkk
<adrien>
(notice how close to troll-day we are: we need to get ready)
<companion_cube>
but what's that got to do with anything we were discussing?
<adrien>
but containers or whatever else isolation (including none)
<adrien>
the whole point is that if you're bundling dependencies, you need to keep on updating them
<companion_cube>
but I don't want non-ocaml dependencies to be bundled :(
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<adrien>
which means making a full distribution in practice
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<rgrinberg1>
so what's the solution? how do you ship a hypothetical pandoc in ocaml to users on different platforms without going insane?
<adrien>
alcohol
<adrien>
I don't think there's a perfect and easy solution
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<adrien>
overall 0install is quite sane and takes the security stuff into account
<adrien>
the issue that remains is when package A depends on package B and package B becomes unmaintained because there's B2
<adrien>
everything but package A moves to B2
<adrien>
what happens to A?
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<adrien>
I killed him ='(
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<hannes>
adrien: after all, it's open source - if no one else jumps on it/cares about it, you have to fix A...
<adrien>
yup
<adrien>
and you just got back to considerations in the regular distributions
<hannes>
q is rather 'who's doing "regular" distributions?' and for what reason, isn't it?
<adrien>
regular, I mean distributions like debian
<adrien>
I need to go to bed or I'll have a _really_ crap day on tomorrow
<adrien>
night
* hannes
himself is not happy with debian/ubuntu >70 patches to off-the-shelf openssl... I'd prefer if they'd just take the upstream (and yes, there have been flaws and regressions in debians openssl patches)
<adrien>
well, debian is definitely a heavy-patcher
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<adrien>
one of the reasons I stick with slackware
* hannes
sticks to FreeBSD (since mirage is not yet a full replacement, working hard on that)
<adrien>
:)
<hannes>
but so - people should use opam instead of heavily patched debian/slackware/whatever libraries. patches should go upstream in OCaml land. problem solved.
<adrien>
slackware patches very little
<adrien>
fedora only accepts patches if they've been sent upstream first
<adrien>
or something like that
<hannes>
what we should do and talk about is signing for opam.. but I as well wanted to get some sleep
<adrien>
get sks-keyserver
<companion_cube>
please do write ocaml-gpgp ;)
<adrien>
make a lib out of it
<companion_cube>
-p
<adrien>
it's ocaml
<adrien>
(and then I can use it in yypkg)
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<hannes>
I looked into sks. it's huge. and wrong license.
<companion_cube>
how complicated is pgp compared to TLS?
<hannes>
companion_cube: I (co-)wrote ocaml-tls/x509/otr... guess what
<companion_cube>
(maybe the mirage team will hack something)
<companion_cube>
hannes: oh. nice.
<hannes>
pgp is less well specified, but rather straightforward. find me 3 months time..
<whitequark>
>pgp
<whitequark>
oh, I see what you're comparing it to
<hannes>
but for opam signing there's no need for pgp... you can express the trust as well in x509
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<companion_cube>
ocaml-pgp + a lambda-term interface to it,could be neat
<companion_cube>
^^
<companion_cube>
another wish for Santa
<whitequark>
how about starting with a PGP API, okay
<hannes>
companion_cube: currently working on jackline, a xmpp-client using otr, tls from myself, lambda-term, ...
<whitequark>
companion_cube: did you know PGP has no API
<whitequark>
at all
<whitequark>
libgpgme uses system()
<companion_cube>
man.
<companion_cube>
that's ugly.
<whitequark>
fucking unix way
<Drup>
I like how, over the years, "the unix way" as become more or so synonim to "as ugly and raw as possible"
<Drup>
synonym
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<whitequark>
not everywhere
<Drup>
obviously :)
<companion_cube>
hannes: I don't know much in crypto, but I'd rather have a web-of-trust thingie for opam
<whitequark>
I don't know much in crypto, <rest of message promptly sent to /dev/null>
<hannes>
is there btw any line of work to replace camomile's unicode in zed & lambda-term with daniel buenzli's?
<Drup>
hannes: I know about some thing to remove the database part of camomille in zed
<whitequark>
hannes: not that I'm aware of
<companion_cube>
I don't know much in crypto, but whitequark is really a jerk sometimes :p
<whitequark>
sometimes?
<companion_cube>
I thought you sent this message to /dev/null ?
<hannes>
companion_cube: the crucial problem is whom to trust. and you can implement the trust model with either - there's cacert doing web-of-trust thingies for x509, there are pgp key signing authorities doing some hierarchical signing stuff for pgp