gildor changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 3.12.0 http://bit.ly/aNZBUp
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* NaCl is finding that some of the functions he has written as being called in lwt are mysteriously never being called
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<krktz> why doesnt type ('r, 'f) foo = 'r 'f ;; work? (syntax error on the ' of 'f)
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<flux> perhaps you mean 'r * 'f
<flux> oh, you mean higher order type?
<flux> those aren't supported, sorry. perhaps the module system will help you.
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<NaCl> rproust: I probably don't get Lwt enough to figure this out, but how would I go about making a global sleeping thread tht I could wake up with avalue?
<avsm> let t,u = Lwt.task () in
<avsm> (* t sleeps forever until its woken up by.. *)
<avsm> Lwt.wakeup u "wakeup";
<avsm> lwt result = t in printf "result=%s\n" result
* NaCl still doesn't get this whole "cooperative thread" thing
<avsm> it does take some getting used to
<avsm> just imagine that everything is either running, or waiting to be woken up by something
<avsm> your system runs until it has nothing to do, and then it just blocks in a select () loop to wake up one of the sleepers
<avsm> in the example above, the only thing that can wake up 't' is someone calling Lwt.wakeup on u
<NaCl> well, I'm writing a GUI. xD
<avsm> but there are other ways threads can be woken up, like a file descriptor becoming active, or a timeout firing
<avsm> well, a GUIs a bit of an advanced thing to use Lwt for, since it usually requires combining event loops
<avsm> i would get familiar with it by writing some simple network servers...
<NaCl> hasn't been too much of a problems
<NaCl> except sometimes it's hard to figure out what will block the mainloop and what won't
<NaCl> especially when I'm firing off other processes and waiting for them to finish
<NaCl> avsm: wait, how would I set that up in a function call? I meanm, I'm trying to wake up the threadm have it do something, then go back to sleep
<NaCl> loop forever
<avsm> wake it up, do its something, then allocate another Lwt.task()
<avsm> you need to register those wakeners somewhere, so just reregister the new one
<NaCl> register?
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<avsm> what woke up the thread?
<NaCl> the "wakener"
<avsm> it needs to have a reference to the Lwt.u, to invoke Lwt.wakeup
<NaCl> the thread is just one "statement"?
<avsm> i dont think of these as threads, really
<NaCl> with "let t,u = Lwt.task () in do_something_cool ()"
<NaCl> it would sleep on the "do_something_cool ()" part, but t and u would be accessible after the fact?
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<avsm> let t, u = Lwt.task () in do_something_cool (); t in
<avsm> would do something cool and then sleep until woken up
<avsm> the 't' is the important one; it's the mini-thread that blocks
<avsm> and Lwt.wakeup u () will wake up the thread with ()
<NaCl> then after that, the function can loop back on itself, after the reference to the wakener has been updated?
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<avsm> yup
<NaCl> or I could bind t to call the function again, where it would sleep after the reference is updated?
<NaCl> Actually, I have to head out, I'll bbiab.
<NaCl> Thanks for the help.
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<NaCl> next step is figuring out how to set up the reference, but I'll look at that later
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