08:23 <atk> Oksana: it's not even that, most developers ONLY test on some flagship phone or high end laptop leaving almost everything older than 5 years with sub-optimal performance.

08:23 <atk> And the web related standards have grown so big that now there are only 2 or 3 companies brave enough to bother implementing all of them.

08:23 <atk> Apple's webkit is an incomplete implementation and now that microsoft is leaving the game we only have google and mozilla working on full support.

08:24 <atk> and google likes to agressively fuck with things to get their way.

08:24 <DocScrutinizer05> eeeeeww

08:24 <atk> it's a giant mess, I think the premise is okay but the implementation is awful

08:24 <atk> (the premise of cross platform stuff like web-apps)

08:25 <atk> I mean, there's really no need for it to be IN a web browser, it's just that web browsers are the only thing that everyone and their grandmother is able to have some leverage for input on.

08:25 <atk> so they end up supporting ALL the features and as long as nobody actually has to implement a web browser then it's all flowers and rainbows as far as these people are concerned.

08:27 <DocScrutinizer05> anybody joining cccamp19?