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Joerg-Neo900 >
the purpose of Neo900 project never been to make money but to create a hardware we all may love to use
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Joerg-Neo900 >
I'm sure literally everybody in here could come up with 2 or 3 smarter rogue plots how to make money in shady ways
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sleepingkirby >
Joerg-Neo900: Well, if it means anything, I never thought you were trying to scam people. I was really excited to hear that someone really wanted to make a better N900. Heck, I still use mine. And, quite frankly, I'm still hoping that something happens and progress resumes.
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Joerg-Neo900 >
I think one or another company not related toNokia or N900 or Neo900 will eventually come up with a device. It's just too obvious something like this is needed
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sleepingkirby >
Joerg-Neo900: Honestly, I'm not counting on it. It's obvious that it's needed, but so is net neutrality in the US, 3rd repair shops for Apple products, games without microtransactions.
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sleepingkirby >
Joerg-Neo900: But either way, I appreciate the effort you put forth.
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Joerg-Neo900 >
thanks
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sleepingkirby >
The closest thing is the librem-5, but it's got half the features (no IR or compass or light sensor) and definitely no keyboard
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Joerg-Neo900 >
librem5 never been considered a particularly innovative concept
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sleepingkirby >
nope.
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Joerg-Neo900 >
seems their only focus is on "Free hardware" and even there it seems they don't deliver
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sleepingkirby >
well, their main focus is it doesn't track people. Never tried pureOS myself so I don't know.
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Joerg-Neo900 >
I can assure you they fail completely on
_that_ aspect
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sleepingkirby >
yeah, the cosmo looks nice.
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Joerg-Neo900 >
seems they even have a very naive idea about how tracking works nowadays
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sleepingkirby >
What's wrong with PureOS?
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slobber >
i just got a one mix 2s, it's not entirely the form factor neo900 strives for, but pretty good
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slobber >
it's also not a fone
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sleepingkirby >
yeah, it's huge.
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sleepingkirby >
and at least it can run debian. Well, I'd like to run devuan, but it's better than android
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Joerg-Neo900 >
I even fail to understand what's Purism's definition of "tracking"
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slobber >
i'm running banto on it
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slobber >
i do have the librem 5 preordered, we'll see if it comes to any fruition
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slobber >
i think they're mainly working on preventing hardware-based tracking: via microphone, webcam, etc
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slobber >
one part of that is the hardware switches, another is open firmware, third is not running android/ios
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Joerg-Neo900 >
that's eavesdropping, not tracking
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Joerg-Neo900 >
but yeah,obviously a switch disables a hw component,
*as long as it's in off position*
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sleepingkirby >
I do find it weird it says "one, even 2 days of battery life!" Given that my n900 can go like 3~4 days without charging
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slobber >
what do n900s run these days
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Joerg-Neo900 >
I consider this a layman's approach to security
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slobber >
i've been out of the loop a long time
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sleepingkirby >
yeah, maemo
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xmn >
it might run maemo-leste too eventually
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slobber >
i had n810 long ago, last i tried using it before selling it all repos were down and it was pretty unusable
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Joerg-Neo900 >
yeah, you need mirrors of the repos
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slobber >
well, not surprising that a phone running a full debian fork not hugely optimized for mobile doesn't get more than a couple days of buttery
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Joerg-Neo900 >
luckily there are a few still
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sleepingkirby >
The mirrors still work for me last time I checked.
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slobber >
pureos is what they ship with their laptops too, i tihnk it's largely unchanged on librem 5 to allow for full-desktop kind of usage
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slobber >
ah, well, i sold it so it doesn't matter any more
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slobber >
glad that stuff is still up for you guys though
17:39
* Joerg-Neo900
got like 6 of them N810, for
*cheap*
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Joerg-Neo900 >
like new
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slobber >
i was looking for a long time for a mobile device i can do actual work on
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slobber >
the one mix 2s has been pretty good for that
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Joerg-Neo900 >
hardly you can get a cheaper all-in palmtop embedded system running a plain linux
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Joerg-Neo900 >
just the N810 camera is crap
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slobber >
who needs a camera on a work pooter
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Joerg-Neo900 >
and the GPS is pretty much not really working either
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slobber >
yeah that was my impression of the gps as well
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Joerg-Neo900 >
sorry, I'm afk
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sleepingkirby >
These are good alternatives. Thanks guys. I'll keep an eye out.
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pigeons >
i didnt mean to imply any malicious intentions to neo900, just saw that link and figured even if a little offtopic i'd point it out
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Joerg-Neo900 >
>>first rule of bash: every rule has exceptions<< except this very rule
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Joerg-Neo900 >
pigeons: :-)
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Joerg-Neo900 >
maybe I should focus on evaluation of smartphones for my next few years of professional activities?
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